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cotoneaster 20 points ago +21 / -1

This is my take as well.

You can see the DOJ is not doing anything. You have sworn affidavits of criminal activity, the president of the united states demanding investigations, 73 million Americans screaming for justice, and more, and nothing is being done, except to harass the whistleblowers.

The people allegedly committing crimes have names and affidavits against them. Giuliani had photos of some of them mishandling ballots. That's a crime. They are not in hiding. Nothing is being done. You try committing fraud and see what happens. They are acting with impunity, because they know they have a free hand.

The fix is already in.

I see a lot of black pills coming over the next few years.

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cotoneaster 20 points ago +20 / -0

Where is the fucking FBI?

A black man sees a string in his garage and 19 FBI agents parachute in immediately.

70 million+ Americans believe their most fundamental right as citizens is being stolen and it's fucking crickets.

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cotoneaster 5 points ago +5 / -0

All of this stuff is inevitable, whether Trump wins or not. California politics are going nationwide. It's demographics and what they are teaching in schools and what they are showing on Netflix.

A lot of black pills are coming in the next 4-8 years, because we are going to see some crazy shit. 2020 is just the start.

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cotoneaster 3 points ago +3 / -0

These are all establishment people. Win or lose the election, they will still be part of the establishment. They'll still be rich, friends with the rich and powerful, and their kids and grandkids will still go to the best schools. They risk that only if they go against the establishment.

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cotoneaster 6 points ago +6 / -0

The vast majority of those guys voted for Trump. Blame the people who are committing and allowing the fraud.

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cotoneaster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Once the ballots are counted as votes, they are very difficult to remove. The goal was to stop them from getting counted in the first place. So yes, if they had proof of fraud, they could have come forward and gotten a judge to stop the counting of some of these absurd 30k ballots found in the bathroom just below the stairs.

Maybe you are right. Maybe Trump has some secret Ace up his sleeves. I hope so. We'll find out.

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cotoneaster 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's obvious they don't have any proof of fraud yet, otherwise they would already have released it to stop the fraudulent ballots from being counted.

They didn't stop the cheating on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, or today on Friday.

You're right, the lawsuits that are floating around here won't get it done.

The only hope is that they can identify 1000s of obviously fraudulent ballots during a recount. Right now, that's the only hope I have left, and it isn't much.

I'm not a gloomer or doomer, but we should be realistic.

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cotoneaster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Win or lose, the election doesn't really effect them. Their jobs won't be outsourced or cancelled because of Covid. They're rich, they live in the best neighborhoods, their kids go to the best schools, and their friends are the rich and powerful.

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cotoneaster 1 point ago +1 / -0

They won't see evidence because they are ideological. Most people will ignore evidence, reason, and logic if it goes against their belief system. It's like religion. It's very difficult to change someones religion based on evidence.

Left wing, social justice ideology is the modern religion, and we are witnessing its birth.

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cotoneaster 1 point ago +1 / -0

You need to identify illegitimate votes and connect examples of fraud to specific ballots. If we cannot do that, recounts, verifications won't matter. The fraudulent ballots are already mixed in. They are in the system. Once there, it will be very hard to get them out.

People on here expecting the courts to throw away tranches of votes are being very optimistic.

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cotoneaster 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Take out the votes that were put in after election day since that's when most of the fraud happened.

That's the hope, but I'm not seeing that happening. I just don't see any court or legislator invalidating whole blocks of votes if there is any chance that even one of those votes was legitimate.

Not trying to be doomer and gloomed. Hope I'm wrong and you all are right.

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cotoneaster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right wing is fundamentally a belief or acceptance in a natural order. Left wing is a belief in an ideological order, namely equality. That's why young people are left wing. Because they are idealogical. As you get older, you become wiser and accept the natural order.

Left wing is about tearing down the natural order and installing an idealogical one. Right wing is the opposite.

Hollywood and big tech are full of young people. We live in a world dominated by youth culture. Corporations target young people for the same reason politicians and every other power does. Because they are easiest to manipulate. The culture wants to get rid of an old, natural belief system and replace it with a young, idealogical one. Because that's easier to control and there are more profits. Nike is not going to get its 7% annual growth in a natural order right wing society.

It's the inevitable progression of the liberal, capitalist society we have.

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cotoneaster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, it can be used as a reason for the courts to let us re-examine and recount the votes. I'm not saying it doesn't matter.

But I still haven't seen anything showing me how we can actually and specifically invalidate large numbers of votes. I guess we can weed out dead people and non-residents, but will that be enough?

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cotoneaster 2 points ago +2 / -0

When I was growing up it was all about equality under the law and free speech.

"I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it", was something liberals used to say.

The beginnings of the internet was extremely libertarian. Free and open access to information was what companies like Google were founded on.

That changed very quickly. Access to information became control of information.

That's a huge change, and it happened in a matter of a few years. It's unsettling.

Like you, I also don't see how we can beat it. I think we are just going to have to let it play out. That means it's going to have to get much first.

Good luck out there, friend.

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cotoneaster 1 point ago +1 / -0

We need to invalidate fraudulent votes. That means connecting clear examples of fraud to specific ballots. Benford's law and shady AF examples are not going to get us there.

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cotoneaster 3 points ago +3 / -0

True power is who controls the culture. Universities and the media control the culture. They are the true power.

People are social beings. They want to fully participate in the culture. That means accepting what the TV man says.

Not every one gets red-pilled or wants to be.

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cotoneaster 4 points ago +4 / -0

Friend, we all know it's bullshit.

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cotoneaster 16 points ago +16 / -0

There will be a recount, so in a way it will be retroactive.

But there has to be a way to identify and invalidate those specific fraudulent votes. That's the only path to victory I am seeing now.

I just don't know a way to identify fraudulent votes, and I don't know what they are going to count as fraudulent.

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cotoneaster 6 points ago +7 / -1

We need to invalidate the fraudulent votes. If we can't do that, a recount won't help.

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cotoneaster 2 points ago +2 / -0

The question is not how to have secure elections. That's not hard. Every western country except us has secure elections. That's not a bug, that's a feature. They want it fraudulent.

The question is how to get power so that we can enact secure elections. Getting REAL power is the hard part.

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