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PamelaCincinnatus 1 point ago +1 / -0

If Hitler was just fighting bankers, why was eradicating all Christian religion also an objective, and why did the Reich leadership feel the need to hide this goal from the German public? Also, why exterminate Slav civilians and gypsies?

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PamelaCincinnatus 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you simply want to debate the number of people killed, this thread has good resources: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=101471

Note that the most likely reliable estimates, giving a range of 4-6 million, are based on a similar number of people simply disappearing from the global Jewish population. You are free to debate the estimate.

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PamelaCincinnatus 1 point ago +1 / -0

Very well.

In the early stages, the killings of undesirables, Jewish or otherwise, were done by shootings: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=252303

However, Himmler noted that this was too stressful (emotionally) on his men. So he sought for a more "hands off" and efficient method. In Poland there were discussions about shutting people into barns and setting them on fire. I think that may be in the same link above but not sure. However, they thought it was too easy to get caught doing this.

So now we come to testimonies. Since you do not accept Hoess' testimony, here are others.

This man says people unfit for labor were put into a barn, called the "white house," and gas cans were thrown in through flaps. After, the people were taken, dead and half-alive, and cremated: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=54393

The nature of the crematorium was well-knowm in the camp: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=51877

This fellow was at the site during the buildup of Birkenau, and saw the bodies being stacked (which happened when there became too many dead to hide from the inmates), and describes the selection process and what was known of the gas chambers. He also describes a variety of other torments and summary killings: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=51879

This man actually witnessed the gas tins being thrown into the chambers through windows, which I assume correspond to the "flaps" in one of the previous accounts, and which aligns, as far as I can tell, with the other accounts: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=63077

Does this answer your question?

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PamelaCincinnatus 3 points ago +4 / -1

Because people are inconsistent and will break their own rules when it is convenient. I'm not basing my opinion off hollywood, I'm basing it off this: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73796

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PamelaCincinnatus 1 point ago +6 / -5

So why do the Nazi internal documents also describe this stuff? Why do we have internal documents in which they debate the merits of locking men, women and children into barns and lighting them on fire as a means of extermination?

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PamelaCincinnatus 0 points ago +1 / -1

It was not fake. See my other comments/go thru my post history.

However, this is 100% dumb, and it's not unreasonable to ask questions after everything we've been lied to about.

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PamelaCincinnatus 1 point ago +2 / -1

Please see my reply to this guy. The Holocaust was no lie, unless you can demonstrate that the Nazi leadership would falsely admit in court to having done these things (not to mention leaving behind ample internal memos). Hoess describes gas chambers as do many witnesses. He gives 2 million as the death count at Auschwitz/Birkenau alone.

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PamelaCincinnatus 0 points ago +1 / -1

Gonna have to disagree with these people. They are getting their history off the wrong part of the internet.

Rudolph Hoess estimated they killed 2 million people at Auschwitz alone while he ran it. IIRC he also stated gas chambers were used: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=74129

If you want to dig more go here: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73796

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PamelaCincinnatus -1 points ago +3 / -4

No. The Nazi leadership thought it was real enough. Read Rudolph Hoess' IMT testimony, or the Nazis' internal memos about how to massacre people without getting caught.

However, it is being exploited today for attention and money, and this George Floyd thing is dumb. But remember, these are leftists. They are treating the Holocaust the same way they treat the rest of history: destroying it and remaking it into something more politically expedient.

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PamelaCincinnatus 4 points ago +8 / -4

This is correct. The Holocaust happened, and it was as bad as they say. Rudolph Hoess, the guy who ran Auschwitz, estimated 2 million were killed at that site alone, but he was not permitted by Nazi leadership to keep records because the exterminations were kept from the public. Much discourse about how to hide the killings went on behind the scenes.

However, it is also being exploited today for sympathy, drama, and money by people who were not in it.

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PamelaCincinnatus 5 points ago +7 / -2

He wanted to take over Europe and wipe out all Jews within at least that area. Not only Jews, but all untermenschen, undesirable races, particularly slavs, poles and gypsies. I don't think he always had that goal, I don't know, but I suspect his goal at first was merely to remake Germany, and once he succeeded at taking power his ambition just kept growing until it became his, and his nation's undoing.

People need to see that the Nazis and their enemies was not really a good vs evil situation, it was an evil vs evil situation.

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PamelaCincinnatus 7 points ago +7 / -0

The Nazis were pure evil. They used the offenses of the Weimar as their justification, and then they abandoned God altogether. They glorified cruelty and death. They were satanic, that's why Himmler's little neo-pagan religious cult fit right in.

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PamelaCincinnatus 4 points ago +5 / -1

It isn't an exaggeration. Rudolph Hoess, the guy who ran Auschwitz, stated in court that he thought two million people had been killed at that site alone. The Nazi leadership planned it all out and were very clear about their intentions, though they lied to the German public. The fact that the Holocaust is being used for dramatic effect today has everything to do with modern political BS and nothing to do with history.

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PamelaCincinnatus 5 points ago +6 / -1

So the baby mills, proxy weddings, and maps of brothels given to soldiers by the Wehrmacht were not degenerate? How about the Nazi plan to wipe out Germany's Christian faith? The Nazi leadership are very clear in their internal memos that they planned to eliminate all forms of Christianity and replace it with a godless, manufactured, state-sponsered religion. They were NOT good.

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PamelaCincinnatus 1 point ago +6 / -5

So why did Rudolph Hoess, the guy who ran Auschwitz, say two million people were killed at that site?

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PamelaCincinnatus 7 points ago +7 / -0

By design. They aren't even allowed to cuss at you in boot camp anymore. Our military is being sabotaged by social engineering. Military members are taught to be weak and fearful and concerned with themselves. If you don't believe me, look at the mandatory GMTs. Active shooter training is basically telling you to run and hide when there is danger. Why do you think military personnel aren't allowed to have guns on base?

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PamelaCincinnatus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Been suspecting this for about a year. It's the globalist/NWO move and AJ has been hinting at it for awhile too from what I understand. They want to bring in Chinese troops. The left are so brainwashed about Trump they will welcome the invasion, or pretend to even if they are secretly uncomfortable. They've been taught it's wrong to stand up against the establishment and they have no way to defend themselves. Their situation will be pitiable and they will have invited the enslavement upon themselves.

As for us, be wary. China has a BIG land army. I do not think our enemies will really rely on Antifa to put us down in a real fight, they will invite blue helmets to "peacekeep" and "restore order". Our Navy leans left politically and relies on ships that are vulnerable to EMPs. If things swing this way, it will get bad. We must start manufacturing bullets and mining our own lead again! And we must pray and repent. If God is on our side we can win without firing a shot. If not, we will win nothing.

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PamelaCincinnatus 6 points ago +6 / -0

...Take your filthy upvote and leave.

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PamelaCincinnatus 1 point ago +1 / -0

From leftie twatter, so make of that what you will. But if this is true then we should try to give Wood a heads up.

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PamelaCincinnatus 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because it conveys beauty, structure, and connection to your culture.

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