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youhateamerica 201 points ago +207 / -6

The funniest part of it is feminists said women in the 50's were so oppressed because they had to stay home and cook and clean and raise kids.

But, if you go look at young women's social media pages today they just talk about wanting to be free to cook and explore their hobbies without having to deal with a job and all the problems that come with the single lifestyle.

Women didn't realize how great they had it back then. Men were men and would support the family. Women just had to pull their weight around the house and make sure the kids turned out alright. They had hours every day to knit or cook or play bridge with the gals.

Now they have to work because a doubling of the labor supply meant a halving of wages so its near impossible to support a family on one income. Women joining the work force was the single most harmful event in the history of labor. In the 50's you worked a 40 hour a week job and could afford two cars and a house and feed a family of 5. Now you work 70 hours and can maybe afford rent on an apartment and one car.

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operator1214 87 points ago +87 / -0

My mom stayed home and cooked and cleaned, raised a kid. She also was a nurse, a pretty good one by all reports, and a fairly decent amateur mechanic (her dad ran a filling station/mechanics garage; she had to help after school). This was back in the "days of oppression". Nobody told her she couldn't do any of those things; some even asked her to help them with a sick family member or to look at their car...because she'd proven she was good at those things (they just never asked her to make any birthday cakes...Mom was a terrible pastry chef; main course? great...no desserts).

No woman in my family had time to play bridge regularly though: when you don't have a lot of money, you go to work -- even if it's on the family farm (my grandmother and great-grandmother used to break horses for people; they were very good at it and brought in some income). They also did all of the domestic chores. You do what you have to do. Nobody told them they couldn't.

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featherwinglove 19 points ago +19 / -0

If we make a movie about her, can we get Marisa Tomei to play her? Reason: she reminds me of Mona Lisa Vito from My Cousin Vinny, an out-of-work hairdresser (by training) and skilled car mechanic (by happenstance). Vincent Gambini (Joe Pesci) also is a much better mechanic than he is a lawyer, and still a decent lawyer!

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operator1214 15 points ago +15 / -0

You can, but my mom was a red head and built like a very slim pencil (Dad was a leg man; Mom had also taught ballroom dancing while going to school...). So, you know, wouldn't be true to character. But the heritage somewhat checks out (although she wasn't 100%...more like mutt with a fair amount of paesan...a red head with a tan if you will).

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Throwawaycuzmeh 1 point ago +1 / -0

It took me a few decades, but I eventually realized that “leg man” is just code for “no fatties”.

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operator1214 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, my mom had nice legs, very long for her size (she was really short too), and she definitely wasn't a fatty. But curvy she was not as well. So I don't know. The prior "love of his life" had been a dancer too. Dad had a taste for a specific type. So, yes, I really think being a leg man might be a real thing. We all like what we like.

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FormerGraveheart 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yutes!

Plus, what does Marisa Tomei look like now?

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BadManOrange 8 points ago +8 / -0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyzYqdxfcKk

She's 55, but I'd say still pretty good. She could probably still pass for someone in her mid-late 40s. Although, she never married or had kids, so that makes it a bit easier to keep her looks. Of course being rich, getting work done is also a possibility.

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FormerGraveheart 5 points ago +5 / -0

She looks amazing for 55.

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featherwinglove 2 points ago +3 / -1

Spiderman's aunt in the MCU; not bad for her age.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 40 points ago +41 / -1

The funniest part

Saddest part, you mean. Man, this country could be a thousand times better right now.

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BlackPillBot 47 points ago +53 / -6

The 19th amendment was a mistake and we should have picked our own cotton. I should be posting this from Mars right now. 😞

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youhateamerica 27 points ago +27 / -0

We need a new amendment repealing all suffrage amendments and limiting the franchise only to people who have paid taxes each year since the last major election. Its retarded to allow people who are net drains on society to vote for people who promise to give them more money.

It would be like the Romans inviting the barbarians to be part of the Senate.

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Ragnar_Danneskjold 14 points ago +14 / -0

It would be like the Romans inviting the barbarians to be part of the Senate.

Yeah but they....oh wait. I see your point :/

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BlackPillBot 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

👍🏻

On top of all of that, I’d actually go as far as making it where until you hold any full time job for at least two years at any given point, then you can’t vote period on top of what you listed. These young kids who have never had any real responsibility and never worked a real job need to see what it’s all about and what being taxed really feels like.

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Savetherepublic2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not just any tax. Property taxes to be specific.

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arentbaby 2 points ago +2 / -0

Think about all the flak we get for slavery, something we decided to GLOBALLY END just out of a moral duty afterwards, and to atone for it we gave all blacks the right to vote and let them live here instead of kicking them out, and then imagine if we did what the Arabs did and just castrated the slave class to prevent them from siring a lineage. A terrible practice, but we wouldn't be getting any heat from constantly kvetching vote-trawling shitlibs for slavery if there were no slave ancestors around. In 2020 it is literally more practical to just genocide an entire people so that 200 years later nobody will be around to try and guilt trip you into giving them more gibs as reparations.

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Mr-J 23 points ago +43 / -20

Yeah, getting into two world wars to kill our racial kin didn't help either, but we know (((who))) enjoys watch us kill our own.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 26 points ago +31 / -5

And a civil war. And keeping em here.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 7 points ago +10 / -3

Spicy like/dislike ratio lol

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arentbaby 2 points ago +2 / -0

Banning t_d was such a terrible mistake on Reddit's part. This community is getting truly redpilled, and they cannot exercise any of the power they previously had to prevent it. I really hope to see a resurgence in old-style internet architecture; no more "4 websites account for 95% of all web traffic" bullshit, ever since i stopped going to reddit i've been going to way more diverse and independent websites and forums that don't have some trans antifa soldier deleting all the wrongthink comments.

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Amaroq64 3 points ago +12 / -9

I must have missed the chapter of history where the Jewish bombed Pearl Harbor.

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Notablitheringidiot 21 points ago +22 / -1

I’m sure you missed the part where America propped up the Bolsheviks through lend-lease.

You know, the mass-murdering communists?

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youhateamerica 3 points ago +4 / -1

Lend-lease was a great idea though. Led to 10's of millions more dead communists. If we didn't keep them going they'd have surrendered to Hitler far earlier rather than throwing millions of their fittest and strongest men at the meatgrinder.

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Notablitheringidiot 6 points ago +6 / -0

It also indirectly led to a communist China and all the problems we’re dealing with on that front to this day.

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America1stAndOnly 2 points ago +2 / -0

And you think that's a good thing? If those millions of healthy men hadn't been sent to die against Hitler they might have been around to stop communism from rising in Russia. Just imagine how much different, and better, the world would be if the USSR never existed, if communism had been stopped dead in its tracks after WW2. Paradise.

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triggernometry 4 points ago +4 / -0

Imagine if Karl Marx's mother aborted him. A man can dream.

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arentbaby 1 point ago +1 / -0

we would have been better off if Germany won against us. Do you think the US GIs in France would have kept fighting if you showed them what the country looks like today, after our "glorious victory against the evil fascists"? They would all have dropped their rifles and immediately ran. I dont remember the number, but some ridiculous majority of soldiers reported that they would rather have lost the war than see the desegregation of the Army or the US itself, like over 80%

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Julia_J 1 point ago +1 / -0

So you okay with the Germans invading Poland, mass murdering Poles and other Slavs because they were your "racial kin?" Fuck off

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featherwinglove 7 points ago +9 / -2

I doubt it, but much better for sure. We could be homesteading on Nars seeing if we can make something a thousand times better. I don't agree with Dr. Robert Zubrin on everything, but I do agree that frontier lands make the perfect places to experiment with better societies. Also, I think everyone except the residents were better off with the People's Temple being in the wilderness of Guyana than downtown San Francisco.

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RegularAmerican 4 points ago +4 / -0

How can we expect someone who slips up and says "Nars" instead of mars to be mentally fit for President? I mean that's so much worse than forgetting what state you're in half the time.

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zooty 6 points ago +6 / -0

I mean imagine when Mars is settled and Trump visits in his 9th term and calls it Nars. Interplanetary incident or what?

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Ferzth 3 points ago +3 / -0

True, everything might have been coming up roses, until that final cup of Koolaid.

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featherwinglove 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hardly: it offered an almost surreal preview of the modern extreme left fanaticism that's causing so much trouble today.

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thisguy883 31 points ago +38 / -7

Women entering the work force destroyed wages (along with illegal immigration) in this country.

As you mentioned, you use to be able to own a home, 2 cars and put your kids through college off 1 income. Today, that is almost impossible unless the man is making more than 100k a year.

Even then, most women still want to go out and do stuff which requires money, lots of it.

So now they wonder why they are upset and because they are eternal victims, they blame society and not themselves as a whole.

I have nothing against women wanting equal rights and what not, but dont come to me and bitch because life suddenly became that much harder. For us men, we've been living in hard mode since the day we were born. Most women live in easy mode and when that difficulty changes as they get older and realize that they've hit the wall, now all of a sudden its men's fault.

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TFP2020 18 points ago +18 / -0

Wages were destroyed because corporations gained a surge of power after WWII and with the people and gov. doing nothing to stop them they could do whatever they wanted. Wages going down was a deliberate move made by corporations to maximize profit and everyone just let them do it.

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Ekgamut 24 points ago +26 / -2

There are multiple factors contributed to declining wages. Women workforce, illegals workforce, H1B workforce, and outsourcing. Also, many big corporations lobbyists paid politicians to “ignore” their methods to save money. I hate everyone equally.

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GoingCamaro 10 points ago +10 / -0

CEO's also fill their own pockets much deeper these days than when they used too. While I mostly agree that business owners should do what they want, at the same time there is an obvious exploitation of lobar that needs to be fixed. This is an ethical problem that the "Hard working" right wingers choose to stand against cause muh money. Really ask yourself does anyone need more than ten million dollars a year to live? A hundred million? A billion? No. They don't. You can live comfortably at 10 million plus- hell I'll be happy if I get that.

Now I am not saying we take their money and give it to the lazy slags, not at all. But instead we need to give incentives for people to give more money to their employees so we can shift back to a culture where a household can sustain on one income as it should always be either through tax cuts or whatever. Only use government regulations if the average working man benefits and no one else. The reason Trump daddy's EOs on Big Pharma are praised is because they are only benefiting regular Joes like you and me. That is the ONLY time government works is when it's in the interest of the people.

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Ekgamut 11 points ago +11 / -0

If corporations didn't outsource their workforce, didn't hire H1B and illegals, then wages for Americans will not be stagnant and inflation will not be so high. The gap between CEOs and everyday Joe will not be so wide either. We need to punish corporations who wish to use foreigners as a cheap workforce and reward corporations who hire Americans. If we do that, I am quite sure that we will not have problems as we have now. The real problem is the government is too corrupt.

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GoingCamaro 5 points ago +5 / -0

Government is too corrupt and too much Good Will is given to CEOs.

If you're a CEO who makes millions a year while your workforce can sustain their families on one income, great.

But if your laborers are struggling to make ends meet and you're taking a fatter paycheck that is unethical. The workers shouldn't scrounge to buy a CEO another vacation home.

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Carry_Your_Name 2 points ago +2 / -0

Only if unions are disbanded and Obozocare is abolished! And most important of all, get rid of the marxist teaching which falsely claims that corporations are exploiting workers' value instead of offering them livelyhood!

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arentbaby 1 point ago +2 / -1

very happy to see the republican base switching away from blindly supporting the megacorporations that fuck them over at every turn. Kick out the neocons (LITERAL jewish ex-Soviet Trotskyists who took over the GOP in the 60s, btw! Look into it) who have infiltrated our party. Go genuine populist and we win forever.

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TFP2020 4 points ago +6 / -2 (edited)

I agree they are all problems but I feel like too many people here think punishing corporations is way harder then deporting millions of illegals and taking away rights from women. I cannot fathom that logic and it gives the left a lot to work with because they openly want to punish corporations for their abuse. Meanwhile we are debating repealing the 19th amendment and figuring out how to start mass deportations without creating a police state. Its not hard to see why we are losing the culture war on issues like this.

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Ekgamut 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yeah, you are right on that issue. Punishing corporations is a lot easier when you have the government on the people’s side. All the government can do is to put CEOs, managers, and board directors in prison for at least 10 years for hiring foreigners instead Americans. The government also can abolish H1Bs. Also, we need to remove the Marxists’ influence on university and academia. Then, we will remove 90% of the problems. We don’t need to start mass deportations. We can take their money away and they will have no reason to stay here. We can make America too hostile to illegals. If we do that, then illegal immigrants will leave on their own. Unfortunately, right now, the government isn’t on the people’s side.

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zooty 6 points ago +7 / -1

I think you have to look at things in a temporal context too though. The industrial revolution was amazingly timely for the US which has a lot of resources and a lot of room for growth. Then Europe destroyed its manufacturing capacity in two huge wars (the scope of which I think many Americans don't really properly comprehend) which gave the US a huge boost. Then third world countries started getting their acts together and cheap labor in a global market has had a big effect.

Don't get me wrong, women being pushed into the workforce has had a large effect too but it's not the only moving part.

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BadManOrange 3 points ago +3 / -0

$100K isn't much in many parts of the country. Many companies also have a cost of living adjustment so that they'll pay you more in more expensive areas and less in cheaper areas. So even if you move somewhere less expensive, they'll make sure to adjust your salary to reflect that.

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thisguy883 5 points ago +5 / -0

The median income here in San Antonio is 50k, maybe around 60k. I technically live outside the city limits, so things are cheaper here.

Anyone making 100k and over in my area is living very comfortable.

My mortgage payment is only $1000. You could easily find a nice house around here for 200k with payments as low as 8-900 a month plus property tax.

My house was 250k when I purchased and since I'm a disabled vet, I don't pay property tax.

So it really depends on where you look. Major cities suck, like Austin and Houston. But outside of Houston, you can find a pretty good deal on a nice home. Same with Austin, if you don't mind the commute into work.

But since this COVID thing happened, I've been remote so it's been wonderful not having to drive into the city.

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UpTrump 11 points ago +11 / -0

If you have a decent salary in a relatively low COL area, it can definitely be done. I'm thinking like $125k+

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thisguy883 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good luck finding something like that.

I live in a relatively cheap area outside a pretty decent sized city and make around that much. But if I were to move to the rural area of Texas, I wouldnt be able to find any work doing what I do. Maybe remote work, but i'll need to have some good creds to get that type of job. Right now, the only reason we are remote is because of this scamdemic.

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newuser999 1 point ago +1 / -0

125k in phx AZ can barely get you raising a family while also saving money and planning a good vacation twice a year.

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BlackPillBot 11 points ago +11 / -0

I call it the GIG(grass is greener) effect.

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asdrubael_was_right [S] 140 points ago +142 / -2

stagnant*

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patslimmy1 92 points ago +94 / -2

No prob you can make up words here - freedom

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davidmode 52 points ago +53 / -1

here on thedonald there is no such thing as a spelling error, just new words

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BlackPillBot 71 points ago +71 / -0

Well call it pedebonics

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fingerofkek 25 points ago +25 / -0

Not to be confused with pedobiden

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JoePedo 25 points ago +25 / -0

You rang, fat?

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deleted 15 points ago +15 / -0
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fingerofkek 9 points ago +9 / -0

Let’s go behind the gym and do push-ups.

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MeanMisterMustardCap 2 points ago +2 / -0

C'mon, man...

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deleted 8 points ago +8 / -0
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Hawksendoom 2 points ago +2 / -0

😂

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Sting 33 points ago +33 / -0

I ficking agroo with you.

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CapnKek 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ficken ist die Schreibweise.

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MAGAnic316 21 points ago +21 / -0

Break out the hamberders and covfefe!

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chahn1138 1 point ago +1 / -0

<Homer Drool Noise>

and some words are not even words!

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grayghost13 12 points ago +12 / -0

In the wrods of Wliliam Wllaace, "FEEEEEERRRDDDDDDOOOOOOOMMMM!"

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Desertwhale 6 points ago +6 / -0

Words are fluid.

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Trumpsbigbrassballs 3 points ago +3 / -0

Grammar fluid

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Avdimar 16 points ago +17 / -1

Well, to be fair, stagnate is a word, just the wrong usage of the word. So I guess using the word however you want because freedom would be more accurate.

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the_mcgee 10 points ago +10 / -0

it’s ok he can be incorrect about a wrods existence here - freedom

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incogneato 9 points ago +9 / -0

I too am somtimes incrorct about wrods

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obamadotru 6 points ago +7 / -1

Feminism has caused the ability of women to teach their children to speak good English to stagnate.

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weallscreamforMAGA 5 points ago +5 / -0

I hate so much about the things that you choose to be

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BlackPillBot 7 points ago +7 / -0

We’ll call it pedebonics.

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quodvox 6 points ago +6 / -0

This isn't a Leftist "Facts are whatever I want them to be" space

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darkgwalchmei 5 points ago +5 / -0

Covfefe!

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4more 67 points ago +71 / -4

Stagnant? They seem more miserable every year. Instead of chilling at home raising kids and keeping the house, they go to their shitty job making nothing and still have to do all that. Hard to get a man with all the women giving it away for free on tinder. Women have been scammed.

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BlackPillBot 35 points ago +36 / -1

And everyone suffers, as wesciv slowly crumbles. 😞

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weltbild 8 points ago +11 / -3

Makes me think if surveys say that woman are happier under shariah law since the commies brag about muh communist sex or something lol

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675-EVIL 12 points ago +14 / -2

There's a documentary on the internet machine that asks North African women about spousal abuse. Most of them said they like being beaten by their husbands as it's masculine and god's will. Even most of Burka wearers do it voluntarily. The brainwashing is deep.

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weltbild 9 points ago +13 / -4

is it brainwashing tho? look at the state of our society

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kd5ywa 11 points ago +11 / -0

You have draw the line at "beaten by their husbands" and willingly subverting yourself for the good of all. Not popular among the west but neither is men subverting themselves to God's authority.

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Pepe_Vult 5 points ago +6 / -1

Are we talking beaten with fists for no reason or a smack for mouthing off?

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Notablitheringidiot 8 points ago +8 / -0

Wife-beating has never been acceptable in the west.

The Arabs can do what the fuck they like, just as long as they stay the fuck away from me.

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weltbild 0 points ago +1 / -1

wife beating is not allowed in islam either from all I know

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SHALL_NOT 34 points ago +37 / -3

No fucking kidding. I’m a man and think it would be a sweet deal to chill at home raising kids. How the hell did women swindle themselves out of that?

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tufftoffee 24 points ago +25 / -1

WWII doubling of the workforce halved their worth.

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SHALL_NOT 15 points ago +15 / -0

Yeah but how the hell did women even get convinced it was a good idea?

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TFP2020 9 points ago +10 / -1

The women working during WWII took a liking to it and refused to give it up and go back to the way things were before.

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SisterCovfefe 16 points ago +28 / -12

It's nice to have your own money, autonomy and recognition for your own achievements. Who knew?

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ThoughtExperiment 29 points ago +31 / -2

I think most people can understand that. However, there are things about women that make those things come at a steep cost. First, women have a much narrower window of fertility than men do. Second, women have a much narrower window of attractiveness than men do.

When a career woman decides she's ready to settle down and start a family, she looks around and discovers that all the men she is attracted to (men who have achieved her level of career success and still have hair) would rather be fucking perky 20-year-olds, and want nothing do do with her saggy old lady tits. Then if she does swallow her pride and settle for a guy in her league (balding, maybe still lives with his parents), she will find it very difficult to bring a pregnancy to term, and her chances of successfully reproducing diminishes with every miscarriage.

The take-home message is that men advance their careers to make themselves attractive to young women. On the other hand, men don't give a shit that you got that promotion to the head of HR if you're in your forties and reek of cat piss.

I'm not telling you or any woman not to go for a career. What I'm saying is that the independence and recognition come at a cost, and that women who manage to "have it all" are vanishingly rare. The only women I know who even came close, married and had children young and then started their careers. Every woman I know who put off marriage and children is alone and barren.

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somercet 11 points ago +11 / -0

It's nice to have your own money, autonomy and recognition for your own achievements. Who knew?

If women are being recognized for the own achievements, why do they get prizes just for attending? Why do entire movements exist (and fund raise) just to praise women and demand more of them in fields they have little interest in?

99% of the work men have done has gone with little recognition outside of a few co-workers and/or family.

I don't want the government to outlaw women working, I want to know why the government is pushing it.

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kd5ywa 7 points ago +9 / -2

It's like "How do men get convinced sitting on their butts and not working by the sweat of their brow was a good idea?" All who are in rebellion have a hate for what's best for us.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Depends how much you're getting for the sweat of your brow and how much you value your free time. Why work overtime when the extra money won't be enough to solve your problems and the extra work time will make you miserable? There was a time in my life in which I worked 105 hour work weeks on rotating shifts for 6 months straight. I had a lot of money and was the most miserable I had ever been in my life.

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tufftoffee 6 points ago +6 / -0

Propaganda by the liberal left. Tale as old as time. Not everyone was on board with it. Take a look at the Eagle Forum of Alabama. STOP ERA.

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Pepe_Vult 3 points ago +3 / -0

Typical subversive elements

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +2 / -1

Women are easily convinced. Just look how many voted for Hillary and continue to let themselves be manipulated into voting Democrat.

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Wankerton 2 points ago +2 / -0

But not really though. Even during the height of WWII female workers were only 29% of the work force.

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Russianhoneypot 21 points ago +24 / -3

I’m not sure where people get this idea that moms at home chill. Life with small children is a constant balance between life and death, being a poop doula , diet preferences that rival a SJW vegan to name a few. You mainly run on coffee fumes and no real sleep, and forget how to even speak adult.

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SHALL_NOT 17 points ago +18 / -1

Yeah so for a few years you change diapers, then for a few more you deal with small children and it is hard. But everything you do is done directly for the people You love most in the world and your reward is seeing the person you made come out as a great adult.

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Russianhoneypot 11 points ago +11 / -0

Oh for sure, I was making a sarcastic point. I have everything right now from teenagers to a 3 month old. My proverb right now is “ blessed are the flexible for they shall never be bent out of shape “.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Heh, that's a good one. Got to remember that.

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MAGA_mermaid 4 points ago +4 / -0

fellow ladypede here (no babies yet, but would love to have 10+ kids and be a crazy Christian homeschooler), but i just roll my eyes at those who claim SAHMs have it rough 🤣 what do you do with all your free time while the children are sleeping and/or playing quietly amongst themselves? i would love to spend my days lounging around the house, cooking/baking, running errands, working out, decorating the house, crafting, homeschooling, and nursing babies. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal!

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Russianhoneypot 3 points ago +3 / -0

My number one bit of humble advice for having children would be to study the works of Weston A Price.If you want to produce a bunch of strong healthy smart kids you would do well to study the role of healthy fats that women need . The low fat diet has hurt women the most in terms of fertility and good health. Free time used to be nonexistent, but with a 14 year old daughter to help that is changed. If I get a minute I m out with the horses. I do a lot of cooking. Cleaning is a must so I might as well make an art out of it. I garden and sew too . Sometimes I run the road with my husband too.

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Pepe_Vult 3 points ago +6 / -3

Yeah I'm an ER doc in essentially a war zone in the middle of a opiod epidemic. Im sure that being in your own home and totally able to go anywhere or do anything is really difficult

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Russianhoneypot 6 points ago +7 / -1

I may be an exception but I don’t go anywhere and do anything I want. Mainly because my husband doesn’t like it. My only “social media “ is TD.win. I have no family close by.

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braveContrarian 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

you should help me fight to change opioid treatment practices. as a successful illegal free drug treatment therapist without any qualifications, my record is far better than NA or AA or any rehab ever was.

I know what the specific problems with current treatment are -- the intentional ignoring of kratom and DXM's (and other NMDA antagonists) effects on opioid tolerance and addiction, the problem of suboxone creating an illegal black market and the certification including fraudulent information to doctors (cannot be injected because of naloxone is a lie -- the naloxone has lower binding affinity than bupe does no matter how you administrate. injecting enables the user to use less drugs and sell more) combined with the limited patient seats available for treatment together create ideal conditions for a black market in an almost intentional way (allow GMs to prescribe, force reckett and benickiser to tell the truth about their drug even though they lied to get FDA approval so doctors admit the truth and look for abuse and injection sites and count strips like pill counts)

the only problem I have is, im not a doctor with legal authority. so you can take my advice and it CAN WORK, but without further research and doctor oversight you can continually stay addicted and not quit just switch to other drugs. but doing it properly with true willpower can work AMAZINGLY with way less withdrawal symptoms than anything else (NA is wrong btw, so is AA, and they lie, we can chat more about it if you want -- bill wilson founder of AA quit by using drugs as an experimental LSD treatment subject as well as the fact he took sexual advantage of women in AA -- both are hidden truths)

i realize im arguing against people in your field, without the proper 'degrees' but do your research and you'll find im not lying or pulling shit out my ass.

I have almost a decade clean now! about 8 years. all thanks to myself and my intentional ignoring of the treatment community and creating my own program by reading medical studies and using myself as a guinea pig.

I want to see these unnecessary black markets smashed -- to have freely and easily available treatment to any who need it -- and to investigate other avenues of treatment which go against the supposed 'science' of drug addiction and simply follow medical research literature as I did from OTHER areas of the field.

and im not talking about those hippie iboga cultists.

Any time i find someone serious about getting off -- I help them and they get off for real. no maintenance. sometimes it takes a year or two. two seems about the average time ive seen so far among people truly ready to jump, to totally jump off the program and go 100% clean. towards the end NMDA antagonist use starts (DXM is a usable over the counter thing, just dont get high on it all the time -- when your about to end use, use a single dose same as pain drs reccomend to lower tolerance buildup, then when you true quit, twice a week use higher doses as a suffering holiday and suffer the rest of the week. dont work while doing this and find a way to take a 1-2 month vacation)

now this could be improved upon by actually developing specific drugs which target the things that make it effective, a synthetic or derivative of kratom, and other potential methods the scientific community could have more knowledge of than me.

for the people that cannot true-quit we eliminate the black market for suboxone and methadone by suing reckett and benickiser and forcing them to revise their suboxone course to include the fact they lied to the FDA for approval and Bupe has higher binding affinity than naloxone so injection still works (check for injection sites in patients), as well as removing the course entirely so that GMs can prescribe to unlimited patients at a time. Also lower the dose for event the most hardened addict to a single box of 8mg strips a month (nobody needs more)

this will totally destroy any black market for the drug overnight. allow treatment to outreach to more people than ever at an extremely fast pace. it will stop crime, help people get off the street drugs, and give them an EVEN EASIER METHOD TO QUIT THE MAINTENANCE DRUGS than currently "supposedly" exists.

If i get someone like you to support this, we can really seriously make a difference. we can work with the scientific and chemistry/medical communities to develop an even better way using this kind of knowledge as a basis to work from.

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Pepe_Vult 1 point ago +1 / -0

I use opiods as infrequently as possible but in emergency situations they are required and frequently in high doses. For long term maintenance its usually out of my hands but our pain specialists work more with alternative practitioners than with the big pharma solutions. Ill even preferentially use ketamine over narcs. Medicinal cannabis in my state as well tho not as easy to get as in other states. Good job on what you're doing man. Big epidemic and it needs to be attacked from all angles.

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braveContrarian 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

im just trying to bring awareness of what worked for me and my friends, what didnt, and the fact that there are problems with the current treatment methodology that prevents many who need help from accessing it and creates a black-market to fill the hole by over-prescribing to too few patients and lying about the nature of certain drugs (as I said, buprenorphine has a higher binding affinity than naloxone -- in the rare event bupe causes a problem narcan CANNOT save you)

The premeditated withdrawal of suboxone is actually caused by the bupe itself -- its so powerful in binding affinity it'll knock just about anything else out of those receptors including naloxone/narcan, thus achieving a similar effect on its own.

its important because ive had arguments with doctors who insist "YOU CANT DO IT NOT FUCKING POSSIBLE" and im like yo -- im watching this happen every day and so do the police it is possible and it does work. i even used to do it myself!

the doctors involved in drug treatment have to somehow be made aware it is in fact happening and they need to watch for it (more than just $$$) as well as potential changes to the certification/prescription system to allow a wider group of people to have access.

that would remove the black market. once that happened youd suspiciously see many people totally stop going to the sub dr and others would mysteriously drop their dose by several boxes a month. even for a lot of people who do use it, it becomes a way of life and second job to just use medicaid to get more drugs than they need and sell them. ive even seen people take a single hydro before an appointment who never use opiates to get those limited seats just to get the script and sell it on the streets. you cant tell me this doesnt divert treatment from those who need it and cause various other problems.

as stated I believe there are other alternative methods of treatment (unofficial) that do have some medical research behind why they work -- and they could be improved on if people smarter than I would look more into the actions that make them work so well.

In the past, getting out of rehab i even tried to get my own doctor and was told by all that there was a 2-5 year waiting list. but drug dealers could get in fine and easily wait out that period since they had no addiction.

also the doctors never taper people like they're supposed to -- they keep them as lifers, and only kick people out if they piss positive for other drugs which doesnt happen very often. so those seats stay filled with mostly dealers and the entire thing is corrupt as hell. esp since medicaid covers the drug but the doctors refuse to take insurance and only do cash only for hundreds of dollars a visit.

Its seriously geared up in a way that I can only describe as "intentionally creating a black market and egregious fraud"

whether or not you agree with me entirely doesnt matter, this is key information if anyone really wants to fight this opioid crisis.

You know you got a problem when rehabs allow street purchase of maintenance drugs, you can bring a needle in ur pocket to outpatient and shoot your maintenance drugs in the bathroom during sessions when you're bored, and nobody will check or acknowledge its even possible.

I'll admit, once upon a time i was guilty, but im trying to blow the whistle as loud as i can. my local cops see it a lot and say "that shits worse than heroin" or "that shit is just as bad as heroin" mostly because of this massive misuse and the street sales.

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ScreamingEagles 2 points ago +3 / -1

I'm sure nearly everyone here will switch with you.

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Russianhoneypot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Im okay with it and you’re all invited to my house! We got married young, have lived in Colorado and trained horses and logged, took turns breaking a leg, right now my husband has a booming transport company, where most men have walked miles in life he has traveled galaxies.

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PAfem4Trump 9 points ago +10 / -1

The worst part were the women who went 'out to work' mocked and ridiculed the stay at home moms. Like they do homeschoolers now.

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SHALL_NOT 10 points ago +10 / -0

Look at all those losers staying home to make an eternal contribution to humanity while I’m out here doing stuff that matters like enriching my employer and taking a sliver of the profits that will be gone by the end of the month!

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GingerFox 7 points ago +7 / -0

I’m a woman and I don’t want children.

But some people do, and I totally support people doing whatever they want with their lives.

By the way, have you looked into fostering or adopting, if you want to have children of your own? I’m assuming you’re single and want children from your comment.

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wcfields -3 points ago +2 / -5

Good luck with that, I have never met an old lady without any children who wasn't batshit crazy. Your desire to not have children could be a sign of some unaddressed psychological issues. Could be something you might want to look into.

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GingerFox 4 points ago +4 / -0

No, it’s a sign of I don’t fucking want children. Not everybody does.

I can weave some great relationships in my life, invest in my hobbies, enjoy some quiet time, focus on a career, save, retire early and rescue animals.

When I’m old I plan to be a yoga grandma who spends time with her friends and beloved. I’ll bake pies and knit scarves and adopt four cats and do all sorts of cool old lady shit :P

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Pepe_Vult 6 points ago +6 / -0

Thanks Gloria Steinem!

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featherwinglove 19 points ago +20 / -1

Yeah, I was about to post, "'Stagnant'? I thought it was plummeting." So many cougars, so many karens, so many man-hating rbg types. I met a men's shelter staffer who's unpopularity was surpassed only her hatred of men whose badly designed layout put the broom closet in the washroom, and she'd keep barging in without announcing herself and this tendency began to look like sexual harassment. She says "I'm staff first, female second." and I'm thinking "Dead last." not only because she's wrong (i.e. whoever caught her on minute one exclaimed "It's a girl!" many years before this shelter got her resume), but because such behaviour was plausibly going to get her killed. And that was a decade ago.

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KekistanPM 22 points ago +22 / -0

"Why can't I find a good man after all these years? Oh wow, that bad boy who did prison time looks hot...but I already matched with that skinny guy with the thick frames and man bun who has his own doll collection..."

I saw this anecdote yesterday even:

"I was happily married to my man but I divorced him because I thought I could do better. But I can't find anyone else and now I'm in my forties and childless. :("

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FormerGraveheart 22 points ago +22 / -0

I was happily married to my man but I divorced him because I thought I could do better. But I can't find anyone else and now I'm in my forties and childless. :(

The American woman in a nutshell.

Where did you see that?

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Notablitheringidiot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Absolutely no self awareness.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Probably saw it in Canada.

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ScreamingEagles 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sadly I only have one up vote to give.

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FireannDireach 14 points ago +14 / -0

One of my prouder moments was having a woman who rejected me in my 20s hard, come tee heeing at me in social media after her second divorce, with the typical "I was wrong, I should have picked you, blah blah blah".

I cut to the chase - "I'm not your consolation prize." I wear her "FUCK YOU" response as a badge of honor.

I've been telling everyone if my current gf doesn't work out, I'm going monk mode. I'm fucking serious, too. I'm just done with it, and I have no interest in dealing with the 40+ dating pool.

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hiddenconservative 9 points ago +9 / -0

cut to the chase - "I'm not your consolation prize." I wear her "FUCK YOU" response as a badge of honor.

Massive respect for that. I know some guys who would have caved and made a date with "the girl who got away" fuck that.

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FireannDireach 6 points ago +6 / -0

If she had just flirted a bit, and moved on when I didn't respond, hey, no harm, no foul. But she played the 'I was wrong card" - she got it both barrels.

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Shalomtoyou 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe those monks in the monastery know what they're doing?

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zooty 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'd be careful with these surveys. They always measure things in weird ways to produce the results they want. National happiness surveys, for example are always measured as "how close is this society to Marxism" rather than any objective measure of happiness.

If things have stayed broadly the same, you know it's much worse than that.

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featherwinglove 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wow, I'm a bit dizzy. So strong is your reply with the context of another comment that I was surprised to find out it was here.

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DisbandTheCIA 13 points ago +13 / -0

Can confirm if I never met my conservative wife I’d still be perusing the depths for easy strange.

Instead got house and family.

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SomeDiggity 11 points ago +11 / -0

I found out just today that you cannot write “Islam is right about woman” into a YouTube chat. It automatically deletes it.

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FormerGraveheart 4 points ago +4 / -0

What does it do if you spell it "women"?

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SomeDiggity 1 point ago +1 / -0

You mean if I spelled it correct? Dunno thought this was a wrong spelling thread. You word bigot. Reeeeeee

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FormerGraveheart 1 point ago +1 / -0

On the other hand, maybe if you spell it "woman" in youtube it won't get deleted.

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Notablitheringidiot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sounds a bit Islamophobic to me!

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BannedbyRed 14 points ago +15 / -1

“Because back then misogyny forced women to lie about how happy they were. Feminism allowed women to freely say whether they’re happy or sad at the exact same rate at which the actually became more happy resulting in the numbers not to change. “ - sincerely, Feminist Logic

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rugburnd 8 points ago +8 / -0

Pregante!

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unsquishable 5 points ago +5 / -0

Pregnate?

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rugburnd 4 points ago +4 / -0

Pegnant!

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neehl 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pargant!

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Pepe_Vult 8 points ago +8 / -0

Women are happiest when aborting their kids so they can make PowerPoint presentations in the office instesd of raising beautiful happy children.

-Gloria Steinem, summary

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Halcyoncritter 2 points ago +2 / -0

wasn't she a CIA spook? theres even a video on youtube with her gushing about her time with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HRUEqyZ7p8

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DJFG 103 points ago +105 / -2

Female happiness hasn't stagnated under feminism - it has declined dramatically:

The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness - Abstract:

By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women's declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging -- one with higher subjective well-being for men.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969

Also, there has -never- been a happiness survey, to my knowledge, where liberal women reported being happier than conservative women.

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MechaCornpop 21 points ago +24 / -3

Thank you for clarifying this.

I'll add that suicide rates among White men have gone way up since feminism became state policy (Civil Rights Act).

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DJFG 26 points ago +28 / -2

The rates of suicide, divorce, single parent households, anxiety, depression, mental illnesses, and so on have sky rocketed under feminism. It's been nothing short of a civilization-level disaster.

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MechaCornpop 13 points ago +16 / -3

The Year 4020:

-"...and millions of people mourned when the judge died."
-"Because they couldn't kill unborn children anymore?? That's crazy!"
-"Yes, it was a very primitive and backward time."

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm hoping we can start having that conversation in 2030 instead.

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TheImpossible1 18 points ago +22 / -4

Self-reporting is not worth anything.

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featherwinglove 24 points ago +24 / -0

How else do you measure happiness? I see where you're coming from, but to measure it "scientifically" (scare quotes because I doubt that it is possible) would require facial and/or communications and/or hormonal surveillance typical of a sci-fi dystopia, and the resulting lack of privacy will affect the results.

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BlackPillBot 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yup. Ever seen the self reporting on drug use? It’s comical at best.

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weltbild 10 points ago +12 / -2

Male suicide up 600% woman most affected. "subjective happyness" woman dont know what they want lol

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rebelde_sin_causa 15 points ago +15 / -0

Slaving away for the man all day long for 40 years is depressing

Who knew?

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RegularAmerican 14 points ago +15 / -1

How many fathers you know say the best moment of the day is getting home to a smiling child who's happy to see them? Imagine being a single childless woman in her 40s having the same hard shitty day and getting to come home to a bottle of wine, netflix, and a bunch of dick pics on tinder.

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rebelde_sin_causa 12 points ago +12 / -0

Indeed. Providing for a family is/was what made the day job worthwhile. In the absence of that, I dunno why people do it.

Lacking the family, they drink, act out politically (seems popular these days), get consumed by social media (can't say I'm immune!) etc.

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asdrubael_was_right [S] 13 points ago +13 / -0

thats some nice shitposting lou

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ADAM_SCHITT 4 points ago +4 / -0

paradox

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DonatesOthersOrgans 76 points ago +79 / -3

The happiest women I know are all married with children

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americanzoomer 30 points ago +36 / -6

the same women are all republican!

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UpTrump 22 points ago +24 / -2

Plenty of suburban white liberal moms

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americanzoomer 10 points ago +11 / -1

Ig it depends. Married women mostly vote republican, less so if they're under 40

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BlackPillBot 9 points ago +12 / -3

That often times cancel out their husbands vote, and down the drain the country goes. 😞

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james43552352345 4 points ago +4 / -0

white liberal SINGLE moms

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Ashishduh 2 points ago +4 / -2

It's incredibly rare for a housewife to be a liberal. Just do what I do with my wife, make sure she's aware that her spending budget will go to zero to make up for higher liberal taxes. Usually they don't think about finances and are only liberal to virtue signal to their female friends, you have to guide them.

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americanzoomer 3 points ago +4 / -1

married women went for Trump

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Ashishduh 2 points ago +3 / -1

Nothing you just said is accurate. The actual numbers tell the true story.

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weallscreamforMAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

and have LTC

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KAGMAGIC2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

What?

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weallscreamforMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

license to carry firearms

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LurkNoMore 1 point ago +1 / -0

License To Carry. Concealed carry permit.

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rebelde_sin_causa 4 points ago +7 / -3

It's difficult, perhaps impossible, to find a sane childless woman

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Zekk 46 points ago +47 / -1 (edited)

Be VERY careful when measuring happiness and using it as a gauge of "society doing good". The reason I say this is because the only way to measure happiness is to ask someone if they are happy. This presents TONS OF PROBLEMS.

Think Brave New World. If you tell everyone they should be happy, they think what they are feeling is happiness so they say they are happy. You've created a bunch of sheep/drones that think they're happy. You can raise happiness by simply using propaganda and convincing people they should be happy enough that they actually believe it.

Another example: People who've never felt love for example, don't know what they are missing. People who've never had sex also don't know what they are missing. It's very difficult to understand something like happiness if you've never truly been happy before. A society of slavers who've conditioned the slaves into thinking they should be super happy to be slaves might think they are happy but have never truly experienced the joy of freedom.

Last example. Are bluepill people in the matrix happier than redpill people in the matrix? One might say bluepill people would probably answer a questionnaire that they are happier than a redpill person but in reality, the joy a redpill person gets from the relationships and struggles he gets through as a redpill are far more joyous than the bluepill because the bluepill are slaves and slightly aware of it at a subconsious level.

This is why happiness is a failed measuring metric. Do not fall for it. Do not use it. The globalist elite will use happiness metrics to turn you into slaves showing how societies that embrace their enslavement are happier but it's because these societies lose their understanding of what happiness truly is over time.

I agree with your conclusion about feminism though. It's not better for women and it's not better for men. It's unnatural and it's actually a form of oppressing women's nature and men. True happiness comes from men and women needing each other because each gender offers a specialty in a role they are biologically designed for that the other is not as proficient in filling themselves. When a man and a woman show their vulnerability as a need for the other to complete them and vow to love, cherish and support each other for eternity as a completed couple, that is ideal. Feminism has instead tried to make women into men and make everyone independent of each other such that men and women compete with one another instead of compliment one another. The end result is a disaster for happiness, love and society as a whole.

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asdrubael_was_right [S] 13 points ago +13 / -0

I was promised a wall...

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Zekk 19 points ago +19 / -0

Promises kept!

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asdrubael_was_right [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Brave New World has been on my reading pile for a while. But there are so many memes to make! Maybe after the election.

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weallscreamforMAGA 5 points ago +5 / -0

I was promised she'd be in jail...

stares at Barr/Durham

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

You call that a wall? I need at least 10 paragraphs for my walls of text.

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UpTrump 11 points ago +11 / -0

When a man and a woman show their vulnerability as a need for the other to complete them and vow to love, cherish and support each other for eternity as a completed couple, that is ideal. 

This is against almost everything someone who is red pilled stands for, if their subreddit is any indication

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TheImpossible1 10 points ago +10 / -0

I think he's speaking of red pill as in us, not redpill as in r/TheRedPill.

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Zekk 7 points ago +13 / -6

That's because redpill was a reaction to feminism. Feminism denied the needing of men. Men who hadn't adapted to this new reality (because no men taught younger men growing up what feminism meant to them) continued to need women and were completely destroyed emotionally because of it so they sought a coping mechanism which was essentially the opposite of feminism.

The end result is not actually desirable for men or women but it's the natural result of one side (feminism) trying to exploit the other's need of them to maximize their power. Redpill teaches men to reject needing women in order to equalize the power imbalance, with movements like MGTOW (men who've completely rejected women) as being this taken to the extreme. Incels are men who still need women because they lack the moral strength to truly reject their need for women and get emotionally unstable due to their irrational (emotionally based) desire for women that is unmet.

The pre-feminism style of relationship or romantic relationship was essentially two corporations that had great synergies between one another merge together into a single corporation that was better together than either was apart. This creates a strong bond. What you have post-feminism is two equal equity business partners offering the same skills entering into a business partnership to double their business but truly not really add any synergies. Typically, one side is trying to take advantage of the other because that's the side with more power and/or knowledge of their position in life which means the relationship typically doesn't last very long and often ends in disputes. Only relationships that last is when the one partner getting screwed over by the other partner treats it as a charitable thing because they have enough that they don't really care; however, if the relationship stops being beneficial to the gaining partner, greed often causes splits. Given that each side is essentially the same, it's very easy for one side not to gain from the other.

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FormerGraveheart 4 points ago +4 / -0

Our meaning of the term is different than r/TheRedPill. Not completely unrelated, but different.

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PaigeAshley 6 points ago +6 / -0

Excellently stated!

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Ashishduh 4 points ago +4 / -0

North Korea reports a perfect happiness score.

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MrAlwaysRight 35 points ago +35 / -0

The idea of a group to protect the rights and further equality is a good thing. Yet what happens with these groups, often, is they get taken over by people who want inequality.

The Feminists thought women can copy men. That doesn't work. Just like men can never be women. Genders are different in humans more so than many other groups. Not only are their size and strength differences there are bone, muscle, and brain differences. Hormones play a huge role in the complex human brain.

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MegaMagaManX 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kinda relevant, and sort of a long watch, but points out a lot of truths

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nF9FgEchV0SV/

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BigIronBigIron 30 points ago +31 / -1

Feminism doubled the labor pool (undercutting wages) and it doubled the tax base. Never forget that Gloria Steinem was CIA.

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ThisisDog 14 points ago +17 / -3

She was totally a CIA plant. The women of the 50s and earlier weren't on board for this feminism garbage cause they were mostly Christian & happy at home. But 60s pop-culture manipulated women's emotions (with the help of Steinem) to feel that they were "2nd class". Very similar to BLM now.

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flashersenpai 3 points ago +3 / -0

Feminism didn't invent any of the technology that made life safer and easier. If you want to be reductive, men invented things that allowed for women to forgo traditional roles and they'll do the same for men given enough time.

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TheImpossible1 -2 points ago +3 / -5

Gloria Steinem was barely relevant. Even Andy Warhol's shooter had more influence.

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newlyfoundpatriot 29 points ago +30 / -1

Feminists are miserable 24/7. Although I did have this one girl I was seeing that straight came out and told me she's not a feminist. I didn't even ask her anything related to it lol. Maybe more young women will open their eyes to that.

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TrudopesEyebrow 10 points ago +11 / -1

Just think of the new onslaught of brainwashed TDS feminists ready to come out of their 8 yrs Environmental empathy doctorates and who have been brainwashed to hate fucking white males.

What kind of future are those angry broads looking at?

No wonder they’re becoming trans and inventing more genders because not a single male wants to touch them.

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newlyfoundpatriot 7 points ago +7 / -0

When Trump wins another 4 years, those angry feminists will become obsolete. But thankfully its very easy to spot a crazy ass feminist these days. You just need to know if she likes 3 people: AOC, Ilhan Omar and Cardi B.

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JoePCool14 5 points ago +5 / -0

Also if she worships Hillary and worshipped RBG.

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newlyfoundpatriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol cmon man, none of these feminists knew who RBG was until last friday 😂 but if she has ever posted an #imwithher or a BLM sign, those are dead giveaways as well!!

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james43552352345 6 points ago +7 / -1

Young women get indoctrinated to feminism in high school and college - "girl power" as they're told. Then they get to the real world and start to realize that the real world is harsh and brutal which ultimately leads them back to conservative ideals with strong gender roles. Men are the providers/protectors and women are the caregivers in the relationship type of values.

The vast majority of high-value men are simply not going to tolerate the crap that liberal women expect and any common sense women realizes this very quickly when they're in the dating scene. The women who don't realize this just end up being single and can never attract a man which only further declines their mental health. Just look at all the weird liberal women you see at protests. They turn fat and look like men.

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newlyfoundpatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

I read a study somewhere, i think it was pew, that said that 3 out of 4 women under the age of 30 identifies as a feminist. After 30 they stop referring to themselves as feminists LOL

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james43552352345 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yup, exactly. Feminism has been sold as something hip and cool. That's why you see so many young women into it but if you really talk to these women, they're just following the crowd. If you dig deeper into their core values, it is all conservative values with strong gender roles, getting married, kids and so on. These women quickly realize that there are A LOT of benefits to women provided by conservative values.

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newlyfoundpatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Very true. A lot of women, especially the ones that grew up in a solid family home, have conservative values, they just don’t realize it. Liberals have successfully taken credit for raising these women and having them think it was feminists that gave them every opportunity. It’s conservative women that can see right through that bullshit

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VoidWanderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

After 30 they stop referring to themselves as feminists LOL

They may stop calling themselves that, but they don't stop believing in it. That's the problem.

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flashersenpai 4 points ago +4 / -0

I hear that lots of women are opposed to feminism, but I never see them mobilize to end feminist laws.

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newlyfoundpatriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

A lot of women unfortunately But understandably don’t want to be the odd one out. Liberal women are VICOUS to any woman that is conservative. Liberal women will publicly call them stupid and try to shame them. They are the loud mouths that try to speak for everyone. Men used to handle these kinds until feminists started calling every man a sexist and got their tentacles into the human resource departments.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Her: "I'm not a feminist."

Me: "Marry me."

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INK26 28 points ago +30 / -2

My mom, who would be 95 if she was alive, totally called it in the sixties and seventies. She even told me not to fall into the trap. Her advice: get a decent job, find a good man who has an even better job, and marry him. She said most of the feminists were ugly and men weren't attracted to them.Took her advice and have been happily married for over forty years. I would probably be tarred and feathered if I admitted this publicly today.

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asdrubael_was_right [S] 12 points ago +12 / -0

I think part of maturing is making decisions with your own happiness in mind. That is why self-determination is so important. The left wants to do your thinking for you, and your happiness isn't a priority to them.

When I was a younger man I bought into some of the globalist marxist bullshit. Then one day I learned to stop doing what others expected of me and follow my own path. That's when I started being happy.

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flashersenpai 26 points ago +28 / -2

feminism bad, women most affected

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

News Headline: World about to be wiped out by massive comet impact, women most affected.

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Italians_Invented_2A 36 points ago +38 / -2

It's men who don't have equal rights, women have privileges that we must fight.

For example:

  1. Can abort or abandon the unwanted baby, a man is forced to maintain the child even if he never wanted it

  2. Men are guilty until proven innocent when accused of rape by a woman

  3. Selective service. It's an injustice that women could vote for a war that men, and only men, would be conscripted to fight

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TheImpossible1 14 points ago +17 / -3

We need to do way more than fix it. We need to actively pursue damages for what they've done.

How many boys were ruined by feminist school systems?

How many men committed suicide because of their hatred?

We owe it to the victims of their ideas to punish them greatly.

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Persistence 4 points ago +4 / -0

Can we bring back exile?

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Saxonlady 11 points ago +12 / -1

If a man wants consensual intercourse and does not want to be a father, please, for the sake of that potentially aborted child, wear a condom.

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HeavyVetting 12 points ago +13 / -1

Solid advice. Another way to avoid the abortion issue is not sticking your dick in crazy.

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FlusteredPeach2 5 points ago +5 / -0

DSYDITC - See Steve McNair as an exactas why not to do it.

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maverick235 3 points ago +3 / -0

Steve McNair is a cautionary tale for all men.

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flashersenpai 3 points ago +3 / -0

Rape is not an exception for men or boys.

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featherwinglove 7 points ago +9 / -2

I think women should be just as eligible for Selective Service (or any other form of conscription) as men: It doesn't necessarily mean combat (because let's be real, women suck in a fight), but we are going to need nurses, doctors, cooks, orderlies, factory workers, seamstresses, spies and counter-spies in time of war.

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RegularAmerican 4 points ago +4 / -0

Bucket duty

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TheImpossible1 4 points ago +5 / -1

Nope, frontline infantry or it's not real equality.

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flashersenpai 4 points ago +4 / -0

A small portion of men in the military will ever serve in frontline combat. The "Tooth to Tail" ratio (combat/support) is about 30/70.

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KozyKat 3 points ago +3 / -0
  1. Male children’s genitals may be cut, but not female’s.
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BlackPillBot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Now do conservative white men.

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BasedCostanza91 19 points ago +19 / -0

Feminists today are not fighting for equality. They want all the benefits and none of the hardships.

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MadRussian 10 points ago +11 / -1

It's not about getting equal, it's always about getting even.

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OlLadyPede 17 points ago +17 / -0

Like the name says, I'm an old lady. I look at all those friends I had that followed the liberal feminist path, including no kids, no marriage commitments, career and their own whims first and foremost and its just sad. Basically lived like Sex and the City was a how to manual.

And you know what, they are all miserable. They are fundamentally sadder as the years roll by and there's nothing real to show for it. There's no Mr. Big coming to save them. They are lonely and bitter. And late at night, a few drinks in, they always say maybe I should have married that guy, had a kid, ect

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nathanrzehringer 17 points ago +17 / -0

My wife and I were finally blessed that she can stay at home with the kids during their final years in the house. We have five kids (3 in HS) and we both worked full time on differing shifts for nearly a decade and a half (I work office hours she worked second shift) so we could not pay daycare. We moved to the same shift two years ago when my oldest could watch them. Then this year I became the General Manager of Independents Fiber Network...so I now make enough to where she can stay at home. We worked hard for it...and I can speak for her she is SIGNIFICANTLY HAPPIER TO BE AT HOME. For some women it might not be their thing, for her she wouldn't want it any other way

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Sting 7 points ago +7 / -0

So you generally manage the fibers into becoming independent. So then YOU’RE the guy - I was wondering who it was.

You bastard, keep up the good work. I’ve never seen more independent fibers in my life. Generally.

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PaigeAshley 7 points ago +7 / -0

Congratulations to you, your wife and family!

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FormerLibTears 6 points ago +6 / -0

I love being at home as well. I do work from home (we have a family business) but my hours are completely flexible. I am here with my kids to make sure they're doing homework. I know where they are and who their friends are. I make dinner for my family. I love it and will miss it SO much when they are adults. I don't even want to think about it!

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ImVoting4Trump 17 points ago +17 / -0

Women have had equal rights and opportunities for a while now. The goal of feminism is no longer equality but to get women ahead of men.

My medical school class was 52-48 women. The class below mine 60-40 women. Yet we still have advertising campaigns for women in science, scholarships for women in medicine that only they can apply for, interest groups for women in medicine. All of these things as if they’re the minority being held back when in reality they have more opportunities.

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TheImpossible1 5 points ago +5 / -0

Do you think Trump will do anything about it? I hope so.

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JoePCool14 9 points ago +9 / -0

With Ivanka in there... meh.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think Trump will. Even among conservatives and people on the right, the idea that feminism is a cancer that needs to be removed is still seen as heretical.

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ThisisDog 15 points ago +18 / -3

Feminism has torn this country apart more than anything else.

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TheImpossible1 5 points ago +6 / -1

BLM, court acceptance of voter fraud and an attempted assassination - all their doing.

Lovely people, really.

/s

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BoilingEnema 3 points ago +3 / -0

There could be an argument made that feminism, and the resulting breakdown of the traditional family, made many awful things possible that you might not connect at first glance.

How many leftist political activists grew up in a stable household with two parents?

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BlackPillBot 4 points ago +7 / -3

If you’re including the 19th amendment, I think I agree. The hoax of black victimization is definitely a strong contender.

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operator1214 12 points ago +12 / -0

Because feminism is a communist construct used in the destruction of social order, accelerating the sought for revolution. That doesn't sound like "happy".

Feminism was never about empowering women or making them feel better. It was also (because it was communist = collective) about opening up vistas of individual freedom, and people are happiest when allowed some personal agency and opportunity to display personal worth.

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Chopblock 12 points ago +13 / -1

For the same reason that buying a sports car doesn’t cure a midlife crisis — it’s a ‘solution’ based on a fundamentally erroneous understanding of the problem that needs to be solved — one that other parties can easily hijack to serve their own interests and impose additional new problems on the person looking for answers.

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chambleepede 11 points ago +11 / -0

The only job a woman can do that no other woman can is be a mother to her children.

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kish-kumen 11 points ago +11 / -0

In my experience, the people who are prone to happiness will stay happy, and those are generally unhappy will find something to be unhappy about.

Applies to both genders.

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PremiumPatriotPepe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wise words!

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rbobjones69 9 points ago +9 / -0

I don't care. Youre responsible for your own happiness

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davidmode 9 points ago +12 / -3

women have been told that they should go into 5 to 6 figure debt for a liberal arts degree to get a job in marketing to save up money to put their 3 dogs in a kennel 4 times a year to go traveling around the world to come home and dye their hair blue and let every dude jizz inside of them because abortion is birth control until theyre 43 years old and realized theyve made a mistake and then have to pay $10k a pop to have a doctor squirt some strangers jizz inside them as they convince themselves they'll get pregnant because they knew a friend who knew a friend who knew a friend who's friend got pregnant at 45

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seaside_dreams 5 points ago +5 / -0

Gosh that's sad. I'm sure it's the life of many though. I've seen them.

Feminism is a lie. It's a softball cult of luxurious ideas only obtainable by the already well off.

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3FinGrin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bing-fucking-O

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PaigeAshley 10 points ago +10 / -0

I'm 25, single, a caretaker for 2 family members, and a small farm. Not a feminist and am happy, as well. :)

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sometimescanbefunny 5 points ago +5 / -0

We need donalddating.win. Need a place for maga-babes and maga-chads alike to meet 'n greet. Would be difficult to do because of the libbies looking to destroy lives and the look-alike honeypots that would sprout up... but still. We could definitely use someplace where we can all get together and then get together.

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PaigeAshley 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have to agree, that would be cool! Because of my responsibilities I don't have much time for searching out a fellow, and my church is filled with elderly people and families, no single guys my age. :)

I've seen lots of singles here on WIN who have the same situation.

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asdrubael_was_right [S] 6 points ago +7 / -1

You in NC and less than 300 lbs? We could get covfefe and talk about MAGA stuff.

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asdrubael_was_right [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well if you are ever down this way you have a fren.

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BattleKing 9 points ago +9 / -0

Because it never was about happiness, it was about power, and that mission has been in part successful. (Then of course there is the argument that true power, and far superior power lies within the role of a mother for a woman, so only semi successful)

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Despitetospite 8 points ago +8 / -0

If feminism helps, how come they keep claiming "30 years ago you didn't have rights without us" (since the 50s)

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VoidWanderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

For the same reason we had global cooling, then global warming, and now climate change. They have to push the message in various ways right when people forget about the last message and how it wasn't actually true or was so manipulated that it might as well be a lie.

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RolandDelacroix 7 points ago +8 / -1

Feminism and no-fault divorce are at the center of 90% of America's ills.

Marxism is the driving force behind both.

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VoidWanderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

no-fault divorce

Thanks, Reagan!

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FlamingButBased 7 points ago +10 / -3 (edited)

I support career women, especially in science, but where feminists fucked up HARD was by seeing themselves as the same as men. Men aren't women. Women aren't men.

Career or not, a woman's role is to put family first. The minute that stops, kids end up with blue hair, women find themselves unfulfilled and men cheat. It's when a woman puts career AHEAD of family that everything goes wrong.

There's something incredibly unsettling about a female breadwinner (not in dollar amount necessarily, but in focus of her time and energy) who takes charge like a man. What kind of cuck soyboy goes for that?

I've seen women CEOs whose despair and anger radiates from them because they never saw their kids grow up, never truly raised and family, and despite giving birth never experienced the joy of motherhood.

A woman who puts family second will never be truly happy as she never realizes her God-given purpose and potential. A woman can (and arguably should) have her own but never at the expense of her family.

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FlamingButBased 4 points ago +4 / -0

YOU GET IT!! 💯💯 I think in our modern age of weak and feeble men it's important for a woman to have her own, but like you said done in such a way that family never takes the back burner.

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SadPangolin 1 point ago +2 / -1

Bingo. The last thing a society needs is to push intelligent women into jobs rather than having kids.

Idiocracy is a documentary.

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DougForsett 7 points ago +9 / -2

has happiness for men improved in the same time frame?

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TheImpossible1 13 points ago +13 / -0

looks at suicide rate

No, it's declined massively.

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DougForsett 3 points ago +4 / -1

has it declined as much for men as for women?

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TheImpossible1 12 points ago +12 / -0

Way more. Men are in a worse place mentally than ever, even young kids are being diagnosed with depression.

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WiseDonkey 8 points ago +9 / -1

So, feminism did succeed?

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TheImpossible1 9 points ago +10 / -1

Well, their goal was to make it legal to kill us, so not yet. A Kamala Harris presidency would probably guarantee that.

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FlusteredPeach2 4 points ago +4 / -0

Which make me sick. Women that are believe in the penis is evil philosophy are just as bad as those they were trying to stop, if not more. They went from stopping something to doing it as well. If anyone should know better, it’s them.

And the ruin things for those women that aren’t rabid.

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lifeisahologram 7 points ago +7 / -0

Sad thing is it just feeds in itself. Its like an infinite loop. You know fat bastard in Austin Powers says something like “I eat because I’m depressed, and I’m depressed because I am fat, and I am fat because I eat...” that’s basically feminism.

And all the things that would break the cycle, being a wife, mother, feminine, etc they are tricked into believing are the cause of their problems so they avoid.

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BornAgainAmerican 6 points ago +6 / -0

Feminism convinced women that what they REALLY wanted was to serve some corporation instead of serving their families.

Then women entered the workforce, effectively doubling the labor pool which ultimately drove down wages since there were more workers than jobs.

And people wonder why income hasn't increased at the same rate as corporate profits and the cost of living.

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supercanuck 6 points ago +6 / -0 (edited)

Well, it sounded good on paper (just like communism) it was never meant to be a "good" thing. It was basically designed to break up families and get more taxes.

https://youtu.be/cdtdidL2MQo

The Rockefeller Foundation funded 'Women's Lib" to tax women and break up the family - To indoctrinate the kids at an early age to accept their teachers as their parents and the State as their family.

The CIA recruited Gloria Steinem and funded 'MS Magazine' for the same reasons mentioned above.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-gloria-steinem-cia-20151025-story.html

She says "In my experience The Agency was completely different from its image; it was liberal, nonviolent and honorable." I call bullshit on that.

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SoldierofKek 6 points ago +6 / -0

Feminism is cancer. Change my mind.

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Dckman 4 points ago +4 / -0

Can't argue with facts.

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Ashishduh 6 points ago +6 / -0

If single motherhood is so good, then how come black people are way worse off now, under a far less racist society, than they were in 1950?

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GeoG85 6 points ago +6 / -0

If communism is good, why do you have to subvertly invade?

If Islam was good, you wouldn't be petty invading one nation at a time.

A good product sells itself yo. Eventually, the con-artist has nowhere to hide.

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NotoriousCIC 6 points ago +7 / -1

The percentage of women on antidepressants is huge as well. Women have been fed the career woman and career whore propaganda and then act surprised at why they’re unhappy.

Women try to lead as man and men are being told to be women. It’s a shit show.

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panthicc 6 points ago +6 / -0

This ultimately has little to do with feminism and more to do with the evolution of our society.

Both women and men are less happy today relative to the past despite life being objectively better than it has ever been for both sexes.

I believe this is due to expectations not meeting reality. Our goals are loftier and further away from our current situation than ever before.

People in the past tended to be more content with what they had. But most people in America now are born into a life of relative ease. Things like microwaves, washers/dryers, and other goods are all things we take for granted today, but led to huge quality life improvements in the past.

Now that we have so much convenience, we're left wanting those luxuries that are out of reach and are thus left feeling dissatisfied with the progress we've made or our current standing in life.

Feminism is a by-product of that, at best. Bored women want more out of life, think having a career will give them that sense of fulfillment, but it generally doesn't because most careers today are shit.

The only reason women are happier to be stay at home moms is because their husbands are providing them those luxuries that we all crave. The roles could just as easily be reversed (as they are in my household). It has little to do with women enjoying being homemakers and men enjoying slaving away at an office job, but more to do with the end result of those things today vs in the past.

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james43552352345 5 points ago +5 / -0

The big problem is feminists pushed heavily for more benefits but at the same time they didn't realize that men would push back against it in certain ways. For example, women heavily pushed for more protections/rights in terms of divorce and family court issues. Now the end result is men are much more cautious about getting married. Most men now are not inclined to getting married like they were in the past where every man expected to get married at some point in their life.

Women have gained in terms of family court issues but they've lost benefits in other areas. Men in general are now much more picky about who they marry. If the female doesn't have a lot to offer then the men are inclined to just date her for a few years and move on. So now you have an ever growing population of single women and these women are very unhappy to be single and not married because they've lost all benefits that come with marriage.

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VoidWanderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

Which is why they keep having to extend marriage. "Common Law" is becoming a much more prevalent way to pull things like alimony, especially in countries like Canada. It's not as prevalent here but as the marriage rates continue to drop like a rock the window to get "cash and prizes" from men is going to ever increase to make sure women keep getting what they demand at the expense of men.

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SadPangolin 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is why, in ten years, men will live with their sex-bots and have kids using an artificial womb.

Women are becoming so obnoxious that men are working to automate them away.

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VoidWanderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

I will be glad to have an AI companion because if it's actual AI I can have a deep, thought provoking conversation, that isn't tainted by emotional outbursts like normally happens with women. That comic that was circulating a while ago about the waifu bot in the hoodie asking why the real woman was so upset in a nutshell.

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james43552352345 1 point ago +1 / -0

Absolutely

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TheImpossible1 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because they lie to those surveys so they get more privileges.

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BlowfishandFunk 5 points ago +6 / -1

Because it turns out “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” is a total load of crap. In reality, a woman needs a man like a woman needs a man 🤷🏻‍♂️

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TheImpossible1 0 points ago +2 / -2

But we don't need them anymore!

Forgiveness is a weakness.

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VoidWanderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

"My wallet, my choice."

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dnile1000bc 5 points ago +5 / -0

My theory is that women are having all sorts of mental issues reconciling all the horrible evil effects of feminism with its "official" goals. They are trying so hard to justify the righteousness of their cause but at the same time seeing before their eyes how toxic it is.

My advice is, don't. Admit that feminism is toxic and expunge is cancerous ideology from your thinking. Women are not oppressed and men are not oppressors.

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RusherOfDin 5 points ago +5 / -0

To this day feminists still ramble on about how getting pregnant, homemaking and raising a family is a trap and a form of forced labor. As if having children and running a household is terrible while working for strangers and wasting your youth chasing money is a good thing.

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MidwestNorsk 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because the baseline CREATED by feminist ideology is one of unhappiness.

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ThomasSowell 5 points ago +5 / -0

Well Thomas Sowell states and shows it has gone down, also Jordan Peterson talk of women that have attained high positions and are miserable, hence they quit, and have a kid to sooth that true sense of success. Feminism movement has ruined a few generations of women to those very women that supported its detriment. Remember the right for women to vote was strongly opposed by 75% of women. It was Men that fought for their right to vote, and hence be drafted which women did not want. It was the same globalist psyops, even back then.

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flashersenpai 3 points ago +3 / -0

damn simp white knight ancestors ruining things for the future

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FormerLibTears 4 points ago +5 / -1

As a woman who has been on both sides, I can say with 100% certainty I am so much happier on this side. I used to be angry ALL THE TIME. The world was against me. How could I not be?

One of the first things I told my husband when I was red-pilled was that I feel comfortable being feminine again. I'm not the same as him. We have different strengths and weaknesses. It doesn't mean he is superior to me. It just means we're different. I like Hallmark Mysteries. He likes UFC. I like to decorate for Christmas. He likes to play Rocket League. I'm a rockstar at multi-tasking. He sucks at it. He is confident and brave. I'm happy to stand behind him and let him be the brave one. These things are all okay!

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christosgnosis 4 points ago +5 / -1

never seen women in a more sorry state (state of mind) than they are today

most are so totally fucked up from the world view they've bought into

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aside 4 points ago +5 / -1

My wife swears feminism is what destroyed America

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VoidWanderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

In a way, she's correct. "First wave" was pushed by bolsheviks who targeted upper class bored white women. It's why feminism and communism are so intertwined.

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friarfox 4 points ago +4 / -0

The movement was created by Rockerfella and the banks to tax women , influence the children at a younger age, double inflation. There is a vid on that if they haven't erased it on Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBSiAALhjzE

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trout007 4 points ago +4 / -0

Women are never happy with what they have because they compare themselves to others. The sooner you learn that the better. That’s why they were happy when they lived in the middle of nowhere. Nobody to compare to.

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james43552352345 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly. Now women are addicted to social media and they're constantly comparing themselves to others but the problem is the people they're comparing themselves to is just a bunch of fake personas that post photos with filters on them. It also encourages unrealistic expectations for men as well since they're seeing pictures where guys are doing unrealistic romantic stuff.

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electricboogaloo 4 points ago +4 / -0

Recommended reading that explores the data on this topic: “Cheap Sex: The Transformation of Men, Marriage, and Monogamy”