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posted ago by Loc12 +3408 / -0

whats the point of even having a majority then? Why are there never DINOs? Is there any other country where members of the party in power vote with the opposition? So many questions

whats the point of even having a majority then? Why are there never DINOs? Is there any other country where members of the party in power vote with the opposition? So many questions
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hilboggins 319 points ago +321 / -2

Cuz the Uni-Party is real, and it's simply decades of people not paying attention to Elections outside of the presidency.

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MAGA_APN 167 points ago +167 / -0

^^^^^^^THIS ...........IT is all about POWER of the UNIPARTY/SWAMP

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Blurpy 41 points ago +41 / -0

110% YES

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IllusionOfChoice 27 points ago +27 / -0

Illusion of choice?

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Balzenburg 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump was the first choice we have had in many years. Remember, 2016 was supposed to be Bush v Clinton.

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thistlemitten 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, IllusionOfChoice, it is the illusion of choice. Your moment has come and you are a thousand percent correct.

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NickG 13 points ago +13 / -0

And what the Republicans on the uniparty side don't understand is that as soon as the democrats will throw them to the wolves faster than a democrat will talk nothing but glowing shit about Soweto

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Yuhboysinthebuildin 60 points ago +64 / -4

As well as people assuming that the other party is the bad guys, and that their party is venerable and heroic. In reality both parties are fucked up and serve neither liberal or conservative interests and values, but elitist ones.

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TeleScreenMedia 35 points ago +35 / -0

We've just misunderstood what the two parties actually are - US & THEM!!

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thehacker4channel 12 points ago +12 / -0

This is worthy of its own stickied thread.

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Yuhboysinthebuildin 5 points ago +6 / -1

Exactly we're fighting about race and CV and how to define justice and liberty, and of course these "conversations" go NOWHERE bc they are pigeonholed into dead ends by the rhetoric and talking points that the elites are giving us. Our country burns and spirals into depravity and poverty while they get richer. And they're the ones who started these problems in the first place (look no further than Biden Harris's sordid history with CREATING systemic racism IE her prosecution record and the Crime Bill). But we can't fight them if we're defending our property and our right to free speech on a daily basis.

Thank God for the POTUS and everything he does but we need to do more. Be more active in public discourse. In the grocery store etc. Make sure people are hearing about everything the media covers up. Total boycott of all mega wealthy brands and Marxist brands like Amazon and the NBA. Buy local and support small business. And help other people understand the importance of this. The conglomerates get their power from consumer dollars. So in a sense, we DO vote them into power.

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TeleScreenMedia 1 point ago +1 / -0

Couldn't agree more.

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unicornpoop 5 points ago +6 / -1

Seems to me more like corporate conglomerate interests.

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otistoole 6 points ago +6 / -0

conglowmerate

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Yuhboysinthebuildin 2 points ago +3 / -1

Exactly. You are correct and that is precisely what I mean. That is the impetus behind the utter treachery of the establishment parties. Big business uses it's wealth and influence to act as unelected elites that determine how the rest of us should live.

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Banick088 4 points ago +4 / -0

This has been the hardest part.

Trying to figure out who is a corrupt scum bag and who just was blind to what they were actually supporting.

I think Ted Cruz is one of the latter

At this point we know for sure who 3 of them are

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Yuhboysinthebuildin 3 points ago +4 / -1

I know, it's like being in a political nightmare that you don't get to wake up from. I almost miss the glory days of childhood when I thought smart, hardworking people in suits were fighting for my freedom. Having your head in the sand sure can be comfortable.

But yeah, it's like you said. The system basically demanding corruption of our politicians. It's hard to tell who is trying to do the right thing and who is capitulating. Needless to say, in politics, it takes not only high integrity but courage and an indestructible will to actually be worthy of any office. Thank God for President Trump.

This is my sense of Ted Cruz, too. Who are you referring to when you say "3 of them"?

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Sirbigusdickus 2 points ago +2 / -0

I actually hand wrote a letter to Haley Barbour one year back in the nineties when he was the GOP Chairman thinking it would make a difference

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thistlemitten 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well said!

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_-Th0r-_ 32 points ago +32 / -0

Make no mistake, it would not be better if we were in the minority, because you’d have all these liberals appointed to the courts.

The “balance” is 53-47, but 2 of those aren’t Dems, they just caucus with the Dems.

I’d rather have Cocaine Mitch right now than Schumer. Can’t get that if you take away 4-5 Republicans.

10 years ago during the TEA Party wave, Mitch was enemy #1. I’m glad he’s there.

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Spermythecat 9 points ago +9 / -0

Mitch knows now if he goes against MAGA his ass will be hip checked to the curb. Being a republican against trump is basically political suicide for most. Unless you go traitor.

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ThisTrainHasNoBrakes 26 points ago +26 / -0

To add to this...there are a lot more than 3 that are not with us. They are just the ones whose job it is to be public about it.

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dingocaloocan 9 points ago +9 / -0

if people cared about local elections BLM would not exist

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hilboggins 0 points ago +1 / -1

100% of everything BLM is protesting for they can fix locally if they actually see racial injustice in their communities and actually care to fix it.

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OhioProud 1 point ago +1 / -0

Republicrats

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Jabblemonkey1 137 points ago +137 / -0

RINOfags gonna RINO.

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CmonPeopleGetReal 70 points ago +73 / -3

And the worst part is, even if you're an R that doesn't like Trump, his SCJ picks have been phenomenally conservative. So it should be the easiest vote of your life. TDS is fucking real.

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FergieJR 53 points ago +53 / -0

They are black mailed. 100% they got dirt on the one from Alaska

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Olorin_the_Grey 28 points ago +28 / -0

or bribed (which i suppose is a form of blackmail). A lot of these people have way more money than they should on a gov't salary.

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Rambro 16 points ago +16 / -0

That's mostly from insider trading.

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NewUser1758 22 points ago +22 / -0

Murkowski is one of them through and through, as far as to pal around with Feinstein.

The only reason they're a republican is because a democrat couldn't get elected in Alaska

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Beartorus 14 points ago +14 / -0

Pretty sure Murkowski cheated her way in, I have not met anyone when I lived up there that liked her or voted for her, and her mail in campaign seems stupid suspect.

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isitpedanticenough 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's probably what they have on her...

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Frankly_George 8 points ago +8 / -0

The only reason they're a republican is because a democrat couldn't get elected in Alaska

This kind of crap needs to stop.

When someone can run as a Republican and repudiate the values and platform of the party that indicates a rot at the heart of the state chapter of the party and when that rot is exposed there needs to be a way to shut down the local state party and restart it with those who uphold the values and platform. Anything less is fraud.

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NewUser1758 5 points ago +5 / -0

True, that's a very interesting perspective but it's definitely a sign the state party is corrupt and lazy

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FarageHommage 3 points ago +3 / -0

Can't Republicans just kick Murkowski out so that when another election comes around she doesn't have the (R) and is forced to run as an Independent?

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MAGAForeverF 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’ve got WA state on the other line, can you take this?

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Yuhboysinthebuildin 0 points ago +1 / -1

No doubt. We need a culture change as voters where people will actually have the gumption to not vote for D or R but withhold their vote or vote third party. This would actually make it possible for organic populist parties to have a legitimate chance.

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behemoth887 4 points ago +4 / -0

they probably helped her win that totally legitimate massive turnout write in of Murkowski after having lost the primary

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Rockribbed1 1 point ago +1 / -0

You would think Alaska is conservative

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vovchykbratyk 8 points ago +10 / -2

What? They are not phenomenally conservative. Gorsuch is already a disappointment. The only reliably conservative votes in the Scalia vein are Alito and Thomas.

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UpTrump 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yeah. Gorsuch sucks major ass

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CanHush 6 points ago +6 / -0

Or as CNN would say HIPPOs gonna ELEPHANT.

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MAGAnic316 2 points ago +2 / -0

Elephants are a myth - Jerry Nadler

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Randomite 2 points ago +2 / -0

But they taste good. - Jerry Nadler

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jcd_007 100 points ago +101 / -1

Collins and Murkowski are the worst RINOs.

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Comanche_Moon 65 points ago +65 / -0

They're at least open about being douches. Mittens is a backstabber.

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rebelde_sin_causa 37 points ago +37 / -0

he has done it enough that it's open now

I'm sure when he dies the leftists will stage a week of national mourning like they did for the admiral's son and are doing for the leftist judge

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BasedCostanza91 13 points ago +13 / -0

Libs will make sure that Romney will get the proper send off like McCain. Off to that burning aircraft carrier in the sky.

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4a1fac047b144338 36 points ago +36 / -0 (edited)

And Republicans/Conservatives in their respective States are even worse.

Are they are their respective field offices 24-7-365 DEMANDING accountability? Nope.

Are they protesting at their respective houses DEMANDING accountability? Nope.

Are they rallying at their respective spouses/family members residents DEMANDING accountability? Nope.

Are they marching on the respective schools of their children DEMANDING acceptability? Nope.

They are too busy golfing, drinking Starbucks, going to church, and paying their wives boyfriends rather than DOING SOMETHING about it.

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Yuhboysinthebuildin 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is something I see so called "conservatives" doing on a daily basis - both in office and regular citizens. It's disgusting how many people claim to be patriots but cant be inconvenienced to actually do anything when it comes down to it. These are the "patriots" that quietly put on masks once it became a mandate. They vegged out on the NFL all day yesterday. And like you said, they drink a piping hot cup of wokeness from Starbucks every day. They are so attached to the trappings of the gilded cage they are not really even conservative.

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Libertysheimdall1 33 points ago +33 / -0

Collins has a shitty situation because Maine is cucked. She has to walk the line constantly. But don’t forget how she stood up for Kavanaugh. And she said she didn’t think there should be a vote, not that she would refuse to vote for a nominee.

Murkowski has no excuse. Alaska is solid red and she is just a backstabbing bitch, plain and simple.

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jcd_007 17 points ago +17 / -0

Fair point. Collins has a far better excuse than Murkowski.

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thebigbear 13 points ago +13 / -0

Murkowski was the write in candidate that was elected by the Democrats that knew they had no chance and just got her in. She is a dump truck with a dad that was the previous Senator in Alaska that got sent to JAIL. Lots of Mail Fraud and strange things happen in Low Population States. It was a total surprise that she won at all and was a close vote, surprised??? WWG1WGA

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NewUser1758 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's not due to low population, democrats commit fraud literally everywhere they are given any quarter

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Randomite 3 points ago +3 / -0

Bridge to Nowhere porky scam.

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Breakfaststout 2 points ago +2 / -0

She needs to do a better job motivating leadership in the state and aggressively pushing back on liberal insanity. She is their damn Senator, have a spine and don't look weak like she has many times on camera. The Dems think they can push her around whenever they want.

I just dont like the idea of someone "riding" the line to keep her job when she should be heavily leading and advocating for what she believes in and conservative values in general. Otherwise its all a sham and she is apparently only in it for the money, the fame of being a "Senator" I guess in name, and of course power.

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HockeyMom4Trump 8 points ago +8 / -0

They are just plain old Democrats

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Landslide_2020 81 points ago +81 / -0

That is the sad state of the Republican party. If this were the Dems with an opportunity to add another Justice under the same circumstances, they would all be rallying around this. But not the Repubs. Infighting is the norm.

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VinceOnAPlane 39 points ago +39 / -0

If Collins, Murk and Shitt Romney want to "signal their virtue," just abstain from voting. It'll be 50-47.

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Landslide_2020 32 points ago +32 / -0

They would rather pull a McCain and vote no. So they can say. "At least we were willing to take a stand for our principles". If you are willing to undermine your President and your Party, you ain't got no Principles.

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NewUser1758 14 points ago +14 / -0

Romney and Murkowski should lose every committee assignment, if they're traitors to this extent, force them to switch parties so they lose re-election

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Toollespaulhero 4 points ago +4 / -0

The Republican Party should excommunicate them. Leave them without the R next to their name on the ballot and no funding. Let them take the D so there’s no more confusion.

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FromSethWithLove 16 points ago +17 / -1

We always have spies in our ranks, and we never hold them accountable (or anybody, actually)

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DeMayor-4Trump 79 points ago +79 / -0

Trump has never had full party support. That’s why he is such a Bull how he’s managed to get shit done despite his opposition

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NewUser1758 18 points ago +18 / -0

They will regret this as Trump has more approval amongst the party than even Reagan had

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Pederrr 58 points ago +60 / -2

I mean... How many people here still think republicans aren't part of the problem?

We elected MAGA, not GOP.

Remember how many candidates the GOP put up against Trump?

Remember how hard they tried to prevent him from getting nominated?

REPUBLICANS ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS. They're mostly better than the dems, but my dog's last bowel movement is a better choice than democrats. Doesn't mean his last log was by any means useful or on our side.

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Magaspy 48 points ago +48 / -0

Maine and Alaska's aren't Republicans, and Romney is a cunt.

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TEXinLA 40 points ago +40 / -0

Squeeze Manchin...

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PhilosoGuido 29 points ago +29 / -0

Manchin is a fraud. If you watch carefully, he only ever crosses the aisle when the GOP already has enough votes and it doesn't matter. He never makes the deciding vote. It's all a carefully orchestrated charade to con the voters of West Virginia and I guarantee he goes to Chuck Schumer for permission every time.

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TEXinLA 12 points ago +12 / -0

IDK. I'd trust him more than Mr. Delecto.

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PhilosoGuido 12 points ago +12 / -0

That's not saying much. But seriously, don't fall for the con job. Watch Manchin closely. He knows he could never win another election in WV as the leftist hack he really is, so he throws the GOP a meaningless bone every so often to get some headlines.

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rodman 7 points ago +7 / -0

I’m in WV. You just said almost verbatim what I told my wife about Manchin today.

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NewUser1758 4 points ago +4 / -0

They may still be able to squeeze him if the voters weren't so stupid as to give him 6 years to squat in their Senate seat last election.

This supreme court pick is one of the most important issues of Trump's presidency for West Virginia because it will uphold the constitutional right to bear arms.

It very well could win Trump the election when the supreme court tosses the millions of fraudulent ballots, and West Virginia needs Trump to win to secure it's people's livelihood and ability to work... Coal, oil and natural gas will be illegal if the far left is allowed to steal this election

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PhilosoGuido 2 points ago +2 / -0

Worth a try but I wouldn't hold out any hope. He voted yes on Gorsuch only after it was a lock with no Republican defections. Then no on Kavanaugh even after they barely had the votes. He voted yes on impeaching Trump. If a single Republican votes "no" then you can guarantee he will too. Especially since he's not up for reelection until 2024. He has years before he has to pretend to be a moderate again.

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NewUser1758 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think Romney is a moderate, he's just incredibly corrupt. I'm sure he votes solely quid pro quo

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PhilosoGuido 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was saying the Manchin is the one who pretends to be a moderate Democrat. Manchin is a full on leftist who pretends to be a moderate occasionally to fool his voters. And Romney is the real moderate Democrat who pretends to be a Republican. Romney is also a bitter loser who hates Trump for achieving what he never will. I don't think Romney even cares about quid pro quo. Romney sees his Senate seat as a play toy for him to antagonize Trump and solicit praise from the leftist press and Twitter twats.

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RackOps 10 points ago +11 / -1 (edited)

He won't break ranks for this.

edit I was mistaken. Manchin did break ranks for Kav, but I still don't think he vote with us this time.

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ADAM_SCHITT 11 points ago +11 / -0

Yes he did.

However it wasn't the deciding vote and we can't count on him here.

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Zekk 27 points ago +27 / -0

Conservatives aren't as deceitful as leftists. Leftists are morally bankrupt. Because of this you end up with these situations.

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KvotheTrump 13 points ago +13 / -0

You can always count on a Democrat to be a Democrat, it is the Republicans you need to worry about

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Grindelwald 24 points ago +24 / -0

No one is going to Alaska or Maine to march against Murkowski or Collins

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PresidentPreston 23 points ago +24 / -1

This is absolutely part of it.

Being from the farthest-flung corners of the country (and places predominantly occupied by non-activists) insulates you from any real fear of consequences.

Collins is up for re-election, so we’ll see how that impacts her decision. Let’s not forget she ultimately came through on Kavanaugh with one of the best, most powerful speeches I’d heard in a long time. Her actions that day were significant.

Murk is almost a full blown Democrat at this point. She’s a lost cause.

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PraetorAngel 8 points ago +8 / -0

Has she ever not been? Not sarcastic, truly curious. I read about her write-in win, but I’m not aware of how she has voted on anything except Kav.

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Harcerz 3 points ago +3 / -0

Let’s not forget she ultimately came through on Kavanaugh with one of the best, most powerful speeches I’d heard in a long time.

Absolutely - and Dems hate her for it, did campaign jihad against her ("raaaapeeee apologist!!") and now the polls somewhat favour the Democrat.

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NewUser1758 3 points ago +3 / -0

Collins is strategic, Murkowski is a democrat that ran as republican in a deeply republican state in order to win

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BecMonTchew 3 points ago +3 / -0

Maine is weird. I lived there for over a decade before going back home. A lot of the older and/ or rural people fancy themselves "independent" voters, so you get retards like Angus King in the senate (because he didn't do enough damage as governor, I guess).

The young people in Portland think they're in the other Portland (but less violent), and don't forget the Somali problem. Once nice areas like Lewiston/ Auburn are now Little Mogadishu. Literally; there's shops on the main downtown street with that name. The Somalis like to burn down their own free government housing apartments, too.

Liberal voters in Maine are soooo stupid that LePage (awesome governor, btw; he did horrible things like pay off the state's hospital debt, stopped feather Indians from over-fishing, and told the NAACP to kiss his ass) got elected twice because he ran against a Dem and a liberal "independent" both times. The "39%" protest bumper stickers (the percentage of votes LePage got in the first election) made me laugh every single time I saw them. And they didn't learn their lesson the first time; they did it twice. I guess rather than grow up, they decided to go to ranked choice voting, so the state is now a lost cause. (It should be noted that ranked choice voting applies to all voting in the state with the single exception of Presidential elections.)

Collins has to walk the line between libtards and "independent" mildly conservative people. I loved the natural beauty of the state and my rural friends (as long as we didn't talk politics), but I don't have much hope for their state anymore. Collins is a symptom, not the disease. Maybe she should go out in a blaze of glory by doing the right thing, but swamp creatures gonna swamp.

No insult intended for Mainers, just calling it as I see it. Louisiana politics wrote the book on being swampy af way before any of us were born, so I'm definitely throwing stones from a glass house here.

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NewUser1758 1 point ago +1 / -0

Write them with a Maine return address pledging not to vote for Collins if she doesn't support the president.

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MAGA_Skull 22 points ago +23 / -1

After Trump is gone the country is fucked. I can no longer support the republican faggots...at least on the federal tickets.

I can't be the only one tired of cucks like fagney and lindsay

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Maga90 19 points ago +19 / -0

Try to hang in there til trumps out of office. We may see a very very different republican party in 4 years. Look at how much hes done so far.

And theres also a huge chance he stays involved as a power broker in the republican party after leaving office. I hear his hotel in dc is one of the nicest in the world.

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TheBroodwich 9 points ago +9 / -0

yes, for every romney is a ted cruz.....i hope

he and rand have come a long way since 2016

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synd1050 -1 points ago +6 / -7

rand paul is still a bit retarded in his libertarian ideas.

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NewUser1758 11 points ago +11 / -0

Trump is a libertarian.

  1. First president to support gay marriage
  2. Ended a nearly 80 year streak of endless wars. The first president not to start or escalate a war since Hoover.
  3. Cut taxes massively
  4. Cut the federal register massively

Trump is the most libertarian president since Calvin Coolidge.

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NewUser1758 3 points ago +3 / -0

We already have a very different republican party, it's unrecognizable from the bush years

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MAGA_Skull 2 points ago +2 / -0

Last I heard they were planning on selling the dc hotel because the swamp made it too much trouble.

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3Always3Victorious3 8 points ago +9 / -1

After Trump 1 comes Trump 2 (Don Jr.) and then Trump 3 (Eric) and then Trump 4 (Ivanka) and then Trump 5 (Barron).

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MAGA_Skull 9 points ago +9 / -0

I'd vote jr and eric...only people on the planet I would trust to carry the torch....but they are no Donald J.

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vovchykbratyk 1 point ago +3 / -2

NO MORE DYNASTIES.

And definitely no Javanka. They have been terrible influences.

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vovchykbratyk 5 points ago +5 / -0

Any president who gets re-elected sort of remakes the entire party. Obama remade the democratic party into basically the 3rd World Socialism Plus Sexual Deviancy party. If Trump gets re-elected, that is effectively the end of the moral vacuum that was the Chamber of Commerce, globalist Romney-Ryan Republican party.

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PB_Mack 1 point ago +1 / -0

Depends. We hold strong now after a win and I think the Dem party could fracture. Especially if they pull some open violence shit. If 20% of them leave to form a openly socialist party the Republicans would have field days in the country.

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maga_gal 19 points ago +19 / -0

Is there a Democrat rhino equivalent or is it just us Republicans with traitors?

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RockyMin 13 points ago +13 / -0

DINO?

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FRONT_TOWARD_LEFT 23 points ago +23 / -0

They're all DINOs. In reality they are communists working to overthrow our Constitutional order.

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NewUser1758 6 points ago +6 / -0

They're almost all just parasites trying to bleed as much from the country's dying husk as they possibly can.

There are no communists and not many strongly ideological people in congress, only parasites and a handful of naive idealists who accomplish very little.

The only reason they ever vote in our favor is because they will be removed from office if they don't.

Look at the wucold stimulus, 10% payments to help normal people, 90% kickbacks to special interests and corporate scum. Trump has to sign this shit or congress will literally vote on nothing at all, but both of the parties are filled with these traitors.

We need a new order.

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Dumdum 14 points ago +14 / -0

Because Rinos will save the Republican party from the scourge of Trump.

then disappear into the dust of history

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NuclearRocks1 13 points ago +14 / -1

BLACKMAILED 😂😂

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Dudemanfoo 6 points ago +6 / -0

Kiddie porn held over their heads maybe?

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FergieJR 1 point ago +1 / -0

Murk one hundo percento

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generated_name 13 points ago +13 / -0

DINOs leave the party, are kicked out, or never make it beyond Local or State elections. The Democrats won't support them and neither will a lot of republicans. RINOs get support from both Democrats, and other RINOs as well as the Republicans that fall for them.

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NewUser1758 1 point ago +1 / -0

A democrat is always a democrat if their vote will put the party's interest over the line.

Look at obamacare, dozens of representatives voted yes knowing for a fact they'd be removed from office

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CmonPeopleGetReal 12 points ago +12 / -0

Mitt Romney is Gay and Faggot

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odiChamp 6 points ago +6 / -0

Imagine your name being a short version of mittens.

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Jabblemonkey1 5 points ago +5 / -0

He was named after a catcher's mitt, because Romney really likes to catch. Hell, sometimes even Lindsey wants to pitch, and Mitt is always there to play catcher.

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Cianevalies 10 points ago +10 / -0

Manchin is vunerable

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RackOps 9 points ago +9 / -0

Kinda sad that the wheels of history may turn on the Roy Moore Senate debacle.

We should have 1 more GOP senator.

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PelosisDD 2 points ago +2 / -0

Unbelievably retarded how far the Bentley scandal rippled

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DeadOverRed 9 points ago +9 / -0

When your friends say "we have to play nice," remember this, and tell them to go fuck themselves.

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Forty_Five 7 points ago +7 / -0

Time to fix that issue.

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FromSethWithLove 6 points ago +6 / -0

When you think about it, it's shocking that Democrats literally cannot function without operating orders.

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MAGA_____bitches 6 points ago +6 / -0

And its for a CONSERVATIVE pick. Well beyond anything to do with Trump.

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TeleScreenMedia 5 points ago +5 / -0

Was always told RINOs were an endangered species, but DC is full of them!

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cchris_39 5 points ago +5 / -0

It’s ridiculous and needs to be stopped. Take away ALL of their committee assignments. Fuck them on every bit of legislation. No funding at all. No military base, leave them with one post office and that’s it. And no federal contracts for their constituents - get to their donors and they will behave or be voted out.

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draintheswamp 5 points ago +5 / -0

DINOs don't exist. They are like unicorns or dodos or liberal nominees that turn Souter.

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thelastlast 5 points ago +5 / -0

the parties arent real. its USA vs DC.

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blunt_person2 5 points ago +5 / -0

Romney, Murkowski, Colins.

The three that always cuck.

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WillNotBeRuled 7 points ago +7 / -0

no, if the three Rinos vote no, we drop to 50 but those three are added to the Dems 47 = 50 = Pence in tie breaker

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bidensmissingbrain 4 points ago +4 / -0

Man, could you imagine the reeeing if that happened?

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harrison_bergeron 4 points ago +7 / -3

The reality is that some states are very close to 50/50. That means you're going to see members of either party who may not be able to vote with the party on all issues and still please their constituency. Susan Collins, for example, has been consistently polling five or so points behind her opponent in Maine. I assure you that she's going to do whatever pleases the majority of her constituents regardless of what the rest of her party is doing in this case.

Also, this is definitely something that goes both ways. The Democrats had an issue with this when they were trying to pass Obamacare. That's the reason they had to pass it using budget reconciliation even though they had sixty votes at the time. The remedy here is simple: elect more Senators.

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TheBroodwich 2 points ago +2 / -0

chance for another term vs scotus slot......a dem would fall on that sword all day and get a cushy job later if not re-elected

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harrison_bergeron -2 points ago +1 / -3

You simply don't know even the most recent history of Congress if you really think this. There are countless recent, real-world examples to the contrary.

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draintheswamp 3 points ago +3 / -0

Which Democrat Senator voted against Obamacare? You might want to recheck the history yourself.

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harrison_bergeron 0 points ago +2 / -2 (edited)

I don't need to recheck the history. I was there.

In the end none voted against it, but if you think that's the whole story then it's you who needs to refresh on the history. Even though they had 60 votes, they had to make major, major concessions along the way in crafting the legislation in order to get the "yellow blue dog" Democrats in the Senate to come along. That's a term you don't hear anymore, which tells you something about where the Democrat party is a decade later. Democrat Senators like Max Baucus worked to make sure that the left-wing of the party, which supported Medicare for all or at a public option at a minimum, were shut out of the debate from the beginning.

The point is that members of Congress that aren't in safe seats will typically do what's best for their re-election first and what pleases the party second. That's so fundamental that it's written about extensively in the Federalist Papers. The idea that the other side always puts the party first is just laughable ahistorical silliness.

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vovchykbratyk 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think you mean blue dog democrats. Dudes like James Traficant. Heck, in many ways Trump is basically a blue dog democrat mixed with some Pat Buchanan.

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harrison_bergeron 0 points ago +2 / -2

Correct. Blue dog democrats, though this was a reference to the Yellow Dog Democrats of a bygone era.

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NewUser1758 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, they had to give kickbacks to the "moderates" financiers and special interest groups so that the "bluedogs" could be sure to get high paying corporate jobs as favors for their corruption.

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harrison_bergeron -1 points ago +1 / -2

Correct. This was 90% of what was happening behind closed doors. None of this would have been necessary if they all just voted party line. If that had been the only concern they would have instituted Medicare For All because technically they had the votes.

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NewUser1758 1 point ago +1 / -0

If the party supported "medicare for all", they would have passed that for kickbacks too.

The democrat party is little more than a front for large corporations to silently control the government while socialist retards and low information people vote for their Manchurian candidates.

It's much easier to own the party of unlimited government than it is to own the party of people who just want to be left alone.

... continue reading thread?
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IDGAF-DT2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

We got faux repubs in name only...can we just kick them out already?

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Redpill-notCommieRed 4 points ago +4 / -0

Could you imagine if the Democrats in the house had to worry about moderates in their party on every vote? Nancy rules them with an iron fist and it shows how far to the radical left they actual are.

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FromSethWithLove 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tulsi is the only one who comes to mind

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IPMang 4 points ago +4 / -0

In Canada (and therefore England as well) there's literally a job title called "The Whip".

The Whip's job is to tell everyone in the party how they're voting on every issue.

If someone goes against this for anything even remotely important, they're fired the very next day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_Whip_(Canada)

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AshenDemon 2 points ago +2 / -0

it used to be this way until they amended the constitution. Senators were appointed by the state legislators. If they didn't vote a certain way, they were recalled at will and a new senator was appointed. This is much harder now.

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MAGA_mermaid 1 point ago +1 / -0

we have Majority Whip and Minority Whip in the US as well... maybe they need to follow Canada’s lead and get more serious about keeping their colleagues in line

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

Every RINO needs to be out in the next primary! These scum bags must be gone

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EvilGuy 3 points ago +3 / -0

DINO's know they could get literally killed. Democrats are fucking violent. RINO's just get flamed online. The media will even pat them on the back for being bipartisan.

If you want the RINOs to stop, then you have to make their actions have consequences they care about. Make their fucking lives hell. Make them live in fear of what you might do.

We must have pedes in these places.

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flguy12 3 points ago +3 / -0

Murkowski & Collins make me sick. Romney too. I hope & pray that these despicable RINOs get thrown out of office next time they are up for re-election.

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TrumpsMandingo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Totally agree with this. Republicans are such pussies

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Marchosias 3 points ago +3 / -0

HEGELIAN DIALECTIC.....The ruling elite create a problem, anticipating in advance the reaction of the population to the crisis and thus conditioning the people to call for change......Repubs and Demo's are the same shit in the end, people. YOU HAVE TO LOOK BEHIND THEM TO SEE WHOS CONTROLLING EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE....

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UsurpTheNarrative 3 points ago +3 / -0

If this vote does not happen should lynch any republicans not playing ball.

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sm0kie420 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is why Hillary wore purple the day after the election. It's a mix of blue and red. They are the same party. The rinos cruise under the radar but every once in a while their true colors show fucking us over. John Roberts, Mitt Romney, Murkowski etc

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Tenpat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because three of our senators are essentially Democrats.

Its good to have them because it gives us control. It sucks to have them because it gives them too much control.

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makethemwatch 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think RINOs are people with weak moral convictions giving in guilt over their whiteness. There are no DINOs because Democrats never had any morals in the first place

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Grond999 2 points ago +2 / -0

The RINOsaur party is anti-American. Only Trump matters.

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NvJohansson 2 points ago +2 / -0

With Murkowski Collins Romney... we dont have 53.

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Pathayne 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Dems were pissed about Tulsi voting present. I remember thinking, “wow, its cool that she doesn’t tow the party line.” But now I see why they were pissed. It feels like you have a piece of shit traitor in the midst.

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luke21 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hardly ever a question of a Democrat breaking ranks. They are like a swarm of locusts.

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stealthboy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Honest question: Why can't the GOP formally kick those RINOs out of the party? Force them to be Independent.

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ModernKnight 2 points ago +2 / -0

The lack of DINOs has confused me for quite a while. The only thing I can figure is the democratic primaries are so corrupt all the DINOs get weeded out well before reaching a federal position.

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Oda_nicullah 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

I honestly think the best way of getting out of all this bullshit is that have a multiparty governments — have a donkey party, have a elephant party, have a porcupine party, have a whatever party, have another party....May the best party win!

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spicy_deluxe 2 points ago +2 / -0

We managed to get rid of a lot of RINO traitors in 2016. There are still more to be rooted out. Any senator that betrays us on the Supreme Court appointment shouldn't receive our votes.

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DeltaTango 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cuck rinos gonna cuck.

The only one I give leeway is Collins. She's in a blue-leaning state.

On vacation, I drove by one of her campaign offices in Maine and there was a small group of paid protesters there. Democrats can smell the blood in the water and are really trying to flip her seat.

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Teddycheong 2 points ago +2 / -0

This kind of bullshit stops with Trump winning 2020. He's gonna end RINO for good.

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Spark-001 2 points ago +2 / -0

Meanwhile, no one's even suggested that a Democrat might flip and vote for Trump's nominee.

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Loc12 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly. Would be unthinkable. Leftists in fight a lot, just look at Bernie vs Hillary camps, but when it comes to opposing the right they are a monolith

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Kinger06 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is why the day after Trump leaves office the Republican Party will have to work a hella lot harder to get my vote. We should all make them do the same

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Shampagnepapi 2 points ago +2 / -0

There are Dinos. They come out when they have the majority.

The goal is to always be split and never unified. This, amplified by the media, leads to division and chaos in the country. That’s their goal.

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the_sky_is_falling 2 points ago +2 / -0

Republicans think people are voting for them because they just love the GOP.

NO, Trump supporters hate the Democrats and the Republicans.

Unfortunately for them and Trump, the compromise is to support the GOP against the Dems.

But the support is based on Trump.

Trump loses because these fuckers didnt back him, the GOP fucks will be the first ones skewered.

Both these useless parties need to die.

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realgeotus2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Time to go RINO hunting. Let's make the RINO extinct!

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BlackHawkClown 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’d be surprised if there weren’t any DINOs.

I believe that President Trump has several people on the inside of the Democratic Party. The difference is that our spies know how to stay hidden. They vote party lines and play the part because their job is to gather intel, not sway votes.

Every war has attempted to have spies behind enemy lines. Why would the political parties be any different? It’s almost naive to think otherwise.

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AT_Finn 2 points ago +2 / -0

We have so many back-stabbers in our party, it is pathetic.

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Pepbrandt 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can't wait to see Romney come up with his excuse on why he can't support putting a pro life judge on the SC.

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Yahoo_is_DooDoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Too many RINO's!