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Belac186 177 points ago +216 / -39

California deserves to burn. I don't care about the good people who live there or how beautiful it is. THEY LITERALLY VOTED TO ALLOW SEX WITH MINORS! I hope the whole place burns to the ground.

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Spirit_of_Resistance 90 points ago +91 / -1

And I hope the leftists who leave and turn back to the same policies become salt pillars

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SpezDispenser 124 points ago +124 / -0

Yea my coworker was talking about moving to either TX, Utah, or NV last night. Dude votes Dem every time and wonders why theres so many homeless people on the street. I doubt he moves one foot, because he's a huge man child and cited "Disneyland" as a primary reason to stay. I wish I made this shit up.

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Ex-libtard 23 points ago +23 / -0

I suppose you're also a man stuck working in tech.

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SpezDispenser 41 points ago +41 / -0

Nah blue collar gig that pays pretty decent. Unfortunately its something I fell into that I wouldnt be able to find outside of where im at (pay wise.) No SJW horse shit in my department, just regular joes.

With that being said, Id say 85% swing to the left politically. Its just the Californian way. Brainwashed to the max.

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Ex-libtard 33 points ago +33 / -0 (edited)

California sounds like a hellscape.

The libtards are relegated *to the yuppie class and welfare folks in my area.

Edit: see corrective comment

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SpezDispenser 41 points ago +41 / -0

This place is legitimately mental AIDS. No free flowing discussion, nor patriotism exhibited. I fooqin loathe here. Born and raised. It used to be half way decent, but fell off a cliff about twenty years ago.

Homeless every couple of city blocks, and these libtards are still baffled on what the cause is. "These people just need help." No theyre drug addled and dangerous.

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CelesteD 21 points ago +21 / -0

It was so different when I was a kid, San Francisco used to be a treat to visit and get some fresh fish dishes. Now it's just .. sickening. Everything has gone downhill and I'm only one man, I'm thinking about leaving myself. All the beautiful areas of wilderness that used to be a mini vacation to visit are now either halfway dead or burned down. It doesn't even feel like home anymore. My grandparents would not recognize this place now, if they were still alive.

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ignorant_slob 14 points ago +14 / -0

Homeless every couple of blocks? You clearly haven’t driven through several blocks of tent cities or gone on a bike trail lined with tents. Homeless every couple of blocks sounds like a Midwest city, not SF.

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brother_red 3 points ago +3 / -0

*relegated

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Ex-libtard 3 points ago +3 / -0

Updated and appreciated.

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IcculusBased9 15 points ago +16 / -1

I used to live there. And one thing I know is, there is nothing you can say to a Californian that will change their mind about California being the absolute coolest, raddest place in the universe. They are extremely convinced and have adopted that word, Californian, as their primary identity. Its some weird sort of statewide egotism thing, but its real. They will not forsake this identity no matter what shit the govt makes them eat

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DebbieinDallas 12 points ago +13 / -1

Yes, I think you are right. I live in AZ. You can always tell a CA driver even without looking at their license plates. They got an atttitude. Reminds me of the attitude people living in the UK have about their crappy health care system where you die waiting to be treated. Brainwashed. Cant fix.

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IcculusBased9 5 points ago +5 / -0

Its weird, most people/regions are proud of their cities and identify that way. Nobody walks around regarding themselves as a Pennsylvanian, or a Massachusettsite. They're from Philly, or Pittsburgh, or Boston. Batshit crazy SF being an exception, because, once-upon-a-time not so long ago, it was a truly beautiful city, and the locals, hilariously, still retain some small pride.

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Darkest 7 points ago +7 / -0

It's not the California way it's the LA /SF way. California is more red than blue by landmass, but those two cities are rats nests

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FliesTheFlag 2 points ago +2 / -0

Voter fraud and bullshit we need more votes lets go door to door and extend the voting time. Orange county got fucked by this. Even San Diego is a Dem shitshow now.

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MakeFloridaRed 2 points ago +2 / -0

You can’t find something elsewhere for the same pay because of the cost of living in CA. Get outta there, make 50% less, and your still ahead financially. Don’t fall into the trap.

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SpezDispenser 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thing is, scored good housing in a nice area (outside of LA for cheap.) So getting paid good with low overhead. Riding that wave until things change.

If I were paying 3k a month for housing, id bail. Already got a home in AZ for Escape from LA scenario.

Cant shoot myself in the foot financially based off politics. At least not for the interim. :!

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MakeFloridaRed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hang in there then, and keep dropping red pills behind enemy lines. Hoping things start to turn out there for you all.

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Winston_Smith84 2 points ago +2 / -0

They'll come for you eventually.

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escaped_from_nyc 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's the worst, ain't it?

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Ex-libtard 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you spamming me?

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james43552352345 10 points ago +10 / -0

I know many people like this, it is really sad. They're also angry that Disneyland is closed. I just throw it in their face with the fact that Florida's Walt Disney World is open for business.....republican state with republican politics so of course these clowns hate Florida but the proof is right there. They want everyone to close their business due to COVID but when it comes to places they want to go to, they want an exemption for it to have it open. Hypocrites.

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SJBHamilton 5 points ago +5 / -0

If your coworker is looking for a Red State safe haven, I do not recommend Utah. It is going purple.

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westrock2000 6 points ago +6 / -0

House prices are stupid too. Assuming by Utah, everyone really means Salt Lake City metro area.

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TommyLasordasBallBag 8 points ago +8 / -0

Lol coming from a Californian - house prices literally anywhere else seem reasonable. I can pay for two houses the same size as mine for what mine is "worth".. fucking nutty out here.

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SJBHamilton 1 point ago +1 / -0

We were lucky, we fled So Cal in 2012, bought our house in 2013 no mortgage.

Now our main concerns are having earthquake coverage and keeping the rioting mobs from burning it down.

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Brownwaterboys 4 points ago +4 / -0

totally not a pedo

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Reeeeeee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tell your coworker that a random stranger on the internet told him to kill himself if he thinks he can move to another state and vote blue.

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LIBERTYPEWPEW 28 points ago +29 / -1

Can’t give up on California. You don’t win wars by giving the enemy things. I’m a teacher here and I’m not giving up.

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HunterSthompson420 10 points ago +11 / -1

Me neither fight these fairies

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Smubbs -2 points ago +3 / -5

Let it burn. Then let the patriots resettle there. Same with new york.

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Scroon 6 points ago +7 / -1

Omg...is that what Bible passage is about?

Once you leave a den of sin, don't look back to those old ways with fondness or you will be destroyed by the salt of your own liberal tears wherever you are.

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AK_Tree_Frog 6 points ago +6 / -0

You are glowing. Wouldn't click on that shit#

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kekles 69 points ago +72 / -3

Let me remind you that in 1994 the majority of Californians passed Prop. 187 (Save Our State) which prohibited illegal aliens from using non-emergency health care, public education, and other services in the State of California. The law was challenged in a legal suit the day after its passage, and found unconstitutional by a federal district court on November 11 In 1999, Governor Gray Davis halted state appeals of this ruling. We are not being represented by the elected leaders. Our elected leaders cheat and steal elections. They are democrats after all. So go fuck yourself about "I don't care about the good people".

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JediMasterGandalf 43 points ago +46 / -3

I learned long ago on T_D that there is a very callous disdain for anything California here. I scratch my head over it constantly. Voices in this community do not want to acknowledge anything worthwhile about this state, even its millions of Trump supporters.

No one hates Sacramento and what the Dems are doing more than I do, but so far, I prefer to stay and fight for my home state. That may someday become intolerable, but it won’t change my love of this place and the many wonderful people who live here. I wonder if the California haters here would fight for their own home states or would they simply flee when things get rough?

I’m sure someone is going to tell me to fuck off because, you know, muh California.

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ENVYNITAZ 29 points ago +29 / -0

God Bless You Fellow Californipede!

Elderpede born and raised here, gonna fight!

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westrock2000 16 points ago +16 / -0

I understand your frustration. I too was born in California. My parents immigrated to Texas when I was a child. I was a dreamer. And although we do sometimes go back to see our extended family, I usually don’t openly volunteer that I’m a Californian by birth.

In fact most people just assume I’m an American citizen. Probably because I integrated so well into American culture.

😏😉

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RenaissanceOfHope 4 points ago +4 / -0

Have you tried getting your US citizenship?

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ignorant_slob 11 points ago +11 / -0

The California way was moving to a place where you were free to do as you wish. It never was about overbearing government control until the past few decades.

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DebbieinDallas 4 points ago +4 / -0

When I was growing up a lot of tv shows were sitcoms in Calif...Americans with Brooklyn accents working in the space industry (Life of Riley), working with beautiful women (Love That Bob), people owning handguns (Perry Mason), one whole season of I Love Lucy going to Calif, Beach Boys music. Everything was wonderful in California and everybody across the country wanted to move there. If you want to see how much CA has changed, just watch some old movies and tv shows. So sad that the Commie Rat Bastard Dems took over and ruined everything. Now, none of us want to move there. The disdain we feel for Californians is not personal...it is just broken heart regret for Politicians ruining the California Dream so many of us had.

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JediMasterGandalf 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh, but it is personal in many cases. (see some of the replies below) Unless I personally "do something" to change it, I am instructed to "shut the fuck up."

Such infantile logic is unworthy of reply, but yours is not.

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Ingerimm 7 points ago +7 / -0

There are many, like myself, who harbor no ill will or intentions toward the good people of California. I briefly lived there when I was younger in Concord, and still have friends who choose to live there today.

Make no mistake though. Californian politics, their politicians and the people who keep voting for some of the worst of it are a real problem.

There is much more respect given from people like me to those who stand and fight, than those who turn and flee. Eventually you will run out of places to flee, so you better learn to defend and fight for what you have and where you live lest you wake up one day with nowhere else to run.

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JediMasterGandalf 6 points ago +7 / -1

I have no problem with anyone who wants to criticize Sacramento (meaning the State government, not the people). Hell, I do it daily.

So, if the title of this post had been, for instance "Sacramento sucks ass" I'd be right on board. It is the contempt for all our citizens that I find puzzling and troubling. Comments not caring about the fine people who live here and generalizations about the whole state being a hellscape. It's easy to paint a large state of 40 million people with a broad, antagonistic brush, but it is intellectually lazy and dishonest.

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meals23 7 points ago +8 / -1

don't worry I get it a lot too, I start so many of my posts with "calipede here" i half considered changing my username to that

my hope is that so many lefties leave the state to spread the cancer elsewhere that we actually take the state back and fix it like Schwarzenegger could have if the steroids didn't shrink his balls

and if we gotta do things the hard way, I'm ready to don my leathers. 2 californias enter 1 california leaves

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JediMasterGandalf 8 points ago +8 / -0

I do find the attitude here troubling but I'm too old to really give a fuck about what other people think. Occasionally I get ornery and whip out my dick, but mostly I just ignore it.

Throws chair against the wall

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LIBERTYPEWPEW 27 points ago +31 / -4

Fuck these pedes who are giving up on us patriots still stuck in California. Fuck you, we’ll survive on our own.

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westrock2000 14 points ago +14 / -0

Most of us are probably aware that it’s only like the first 30 miles from the coast that is the problem. Inland people live completely different life’s. It’s the couple of big counties that drown them out though.

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LIBERTYPEWPEW 10 points ago +10 / -0

Absolutely. The state is largely comprised of agriculture, which is run by, you guessed it, Conservatives.

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ENVYNITAZ 7 points ago +8 / -1

AMEN

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Smubbs -3 points ago +3 / -6

You'll survive by leaving. Stay and you get what you deserve

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clearsighted 25 points ago +25 / -0

There's a lot of good people in California. A lot of Trump supporters. But the state unfortunately, has a seemingly permanent 65 - 35 Democratic majority, owing to all the illegal immigration and liberal transplants.

And yes. California has still managed to pass a lot of good props, but they get ripped apart by the politicians.

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HadEnoughInCA 13 points ago +14 / -1 (edited)

Think about what you said there for a minute. The votes on ballot propositions are all very close to 50-50, and sometimes taxes even get voted down or other surprising things pass.

Why are the results for ballot measures so different? Because there are too many of them and it makes it difficult to cheat on a statewide level. Instead they just cheat for their candidates who can pass as many laws as they want, so who cares about the ballot measures. The cheating is where you get these 60-40 and 65-35 results for D candidates, amd Democrat supermajorities in the state legislature, but in reality it's within a couple percent. And now they have been doing it so long that people are conditioned to believe it really is 65-35.

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clearsighted 5 points ago +5 / -0

There's an element of truth to what you're saying, but a lot of it is also has to do with LA County (where most people live), and various districting changes, that chained once Republican-ish suburban areas with more inner city areas dominated by immigrants. We had some initial luck with the Koreans, but the young ones are increasingly woke. LA City is solid blue, despite there being a LOT of Republicans in the San Fernando Valley.

There's a lot more money and activism, which is again, partly cause all the liberal transplants. And you get Republicans staying home from the polls, because they don't think it's worth their time to vote in a national election, that's decided before most Californians get off work.

But really, it comes down to organization money, liberal transplants and immigration. And every year that goes by, more Republican voters either die or move to Texas.

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ENVYNITAZ 13 points ago +15 / -2

So go fuck yourself about "I don't care about the good people"

KEK!

CA Strong Here!

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TheNotSoEvilEngineer 29 points ago +29 / -0

Problem is the fires hurt the more rural voters who tend to be the red parts of the state. The cancer is the cities, and these fires won't touch them directly.

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ajr1218 21 points ago +21 / -0 (edited)

Which is why they do nothing about the deteriorating conditions of the forests. Only once the smoke covers their skies do they start caring, but even then, they don’t think beyond the cause of their own smog: their auto emissions.

Their line of logic is “our carbon emissions are drying things up and warming up the planet, therefore they are causing the fires. If we stop emissions, this will stop too.”

How about grab a fucking rake?

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Dontberetarded 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Work? NO THANKS!"

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james43552352345 3 points ago +3 / -0

They're too busy virtue signaling on twatter to do actual real work.

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ignorant_slob 3 points ago +3 / -0

They grab a petition and make maintenance impossible.

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ajr1218 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’ve seen a couple arguments against land management. Of course, lefty “environmentalists” are against any form of human intervention with nature, since apparently all of it is bad (which isn’t true).

There’s also misinformation about what management means in this regard, and when Trump came out in support of clearing dead matter from the forests, it of course got misconstrued as clear-cutting all trees.

One argument I’ve personally heard was that animals take shelter in fallen trees and such, and clearing the land deprives them of that shelter. Well, that’s a sound argument... if there are a handful of dead/fallen trees scattered about, as opposed to the hundreds-per-acre that a good portion of California’s forests currently have. And that’s not counting all the burn scars...

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BeefChucker 6 points ago +6 / -0

Don't bother explaining, they are a complete idiot who wants people's homes to burn because of legislation they haven't read.

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Nameless_Mofo 4 points ago +4 / -0

the fires hurt the more rural voters who tend to be the red parts of the state

Agenda 21 in action

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westrock2000 3 points ago +3 / -0

I keep asking the employees we have at a remote facility in Silicone Valley if they have experienced power outages....answer is always nope. I suspect THAT area will not get hit with power outages.

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james43552352345 4 points ago +4 / -0

The irony of many of those places is that they have backup generators that kick on so the power never goes out. All powered by those evil fossil fuels they hate.

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ignorant_slob 3 points ago +3 / -0

The affordable areas where the slaves to elite wealthy people get power outages. Places with $3m+ houses don’t get power cut unless you’re talking about huge mansions in remote areas that are already equipped to be off-grid.

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TheWiseBuffalo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Then make rural California one big old environmental (and 2A) sanctuary city that's a big middle finger to the cities saying we're cleaning this shit up with control burning whether you like it or not.

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Forgotmyname 23 points ago +23 / -0

I wonder how much vote fraud it took to legalize that? I have a feeling that what is and has been going on in California has been accomplished with years of fraudulent voting.

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knightofday 14 points ago +14 / -0

An absolute fact imo. There’s just no other way

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Forgotmyname 16 points ago +16 / -0

I have a hard time believing anyone would elect Pelosi that many times. Or Harris. I mean there had to be candidates that ran against them each election. I’ll never believe that Pelosi was chosen over anyone that many times. She is legitimately retarded.

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HadEnoughInCA 8 points ago +8 / -0

Harris ran against another Democrat in the election, who was a total loser and barely even campaigned. They have open primaries here (top two vote-getters in the primary go to a run-off, regardless of party). So the Democrats put up a dummy candidate to try and get second place to make it D vs. D. And it worked because the Republicans also fragmented their vote with multiple candidates.

Both Harris and Gavin Newsom were appointed to their first political offices, and have been appointed or effectively run unopposed in every election since.

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MAGAFrogInfinity 6 points ago +6 / -0

From my recollection about the last time she was up for re-election, I think Pelosi ran unopposed. Heck, if there was opposition is was likely another D cucktard running against her. Basically, It was a no-win situation for anyone wanting to vote R.

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westrock2000 1 point ago +1 / -0

Only in the last couple years has her retardation really been openly on display. The legacy media controlled the flow of information. So if you weren’t listening to conservative talk radio or watching Fox News, you likely always got the “strong independent smart woman” narrative, much like Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein got.

But the spread of “alternative” news sources coupled with her TDS means that lots of people saw the videos or the gifs of her tearing the State of the Union speech, or her getting caught at the salon. Or telling people to go to Chinatown.

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chahn1138 57 points ago +57 / -0

It really does....I live here....NO BAIL OUT!

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8yearmaga 22 points ago +24 / -2

I live here too, NO BAIL OUT! I am leaving as soon as the kid is out of school. Let it burn.

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alphaqbtch 4 points ago +6 / -2

The census is being taken this year. You and others like you ensure California’s power

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8yearmaga 1 point ago +1 / -0

I did not fill out my census for this reason

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alphaqbtch 2 points ago +2 / -0

Brilliant! Because population trend statistics have nothing to do with it! If we all skip the next census we can end Congress because all states will be without a population!

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magaroniAndCheese 2 points ago +4 / -2

leave now why wait

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spez_this 12 points ago +12 / -0

I feel for you. I don't live in Cali, but have visited a number of times. California, the place, has so much to offer. However, California, the government, is ruining it.

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cbird54 52 points ago +52 / -0

If climate change is real why isn't California protecting itself from the increased chance of wildfires?

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muy_libre 35 points ago +35 / -0

Because the wildfires keep people in perpetual fear and gives the green authoritarians more power.

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PhD_in_everything 19 points ago +19 / -0

Exactly. The more I think about this, the more it feels like it has nothing to do with the actual environment but with power and making people dependent.

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CEO_of_Muslims 2 points ago +3 / -1

Welcome. Here, have a coat.

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Brucesky420 9 points ago +9 / -0

Funny enough, it's the environmentalists that are killing the environment by not allowing proper management of it to be done. Same shit in Australia, for the past 10 years professionals have been saying if proper forest management is done, they'll have a historic fire. Sure enough, that's what happened

It's not climate change directly doing it, it's the climate change losers affecting the environment with their stupid ass policies

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Belac186 2 points ago +2 / -0

Years of mismanagement cause these problems and of course the arsonist.

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MAGA_CENTIPEDE 49 points ago +49 / -0

The fact that illegal aliens get anything for free in this country is absolutely bullshit. They should have to pay out of pocket for everything, really they should all be deported but if they’re going to be here they have to pay their own way

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muy_libre 15 points ago +15 / -0

What is the $25 billion that the criminal aliens get? Is it healthcare? Housing? I legit don't know. I'm on the complete opposite side of the country and don't really pay attention to commiefornia politics.

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lerm4comptroller 15 points ago +15 / -0

From FAIR:

Nearly half of those expenditures ($12.3 billion) result from the costs of K-12 education for the children of illegal aliens — both those illegally in the country and those born in the United States. Another major outlay ($2.1 billion) results from the need to provide supplemental English language instruction to Limited English Proficient students, many of whom are children of illegal aliens. Together, these educational costs are 57.1 percent of total expenditures. Other fiscal outlays result from the costs of medical care ($4.0 billion), public assistance services ($800 million), administration of justice functions ($4.4 billion), and general governmental services ($1.6 billion).

It's mostly the free public education they get for their kids. I don't know about where you live, but even around myself we could probably close about 10-20% of public schools if not for the illegal aliens and I'm on the other side of the country, nowhere near the border.

We overbuilt our education system based on just a few unusually large generations, at the insistence of our stunning and brave teachers. This is why teachers unions suddenly can't stop talking about how great illegal aliens are, btw--either the illegals stay, or up to a quarter of them lose their jobs.

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Wehavelawsforareason 9 points ago +9 / -0

I work at a county hospital in so cal. At county hospitals, we take care of all the uninsured patients, including illegal aliens. I’d say that about 60-75% of the patients are illegal aliens. They get their whole hospital stay paid for by the taxpayers of California. If they need surgery, our taxes pay for it. If they are on a ventilator for 3 months with multiple surgeries, our taxes pay for it. I worked all around the hospital. In labor and delivery, I’d estimate that approximately 75% of the deliveries are 100% in Spanish and it’s a 19 year old who just crossed the border 2 weeks ago and now she’s dropping her anchor. Her whole delivery or c section is paid for by our taxes. If her child requires NICU, our taxes pay for the whole stay. Just for the NICU bed, it is $13,000 a day, that is just for the room and not including any medications or therapies. Our taxes pay for it. When I worked in pediatrics, there would always be some young mother of 6 with a Gucci purse and newest iPhone, and her kid has a tablet while our tax dollars are paying for her kid to stay there. Meanwhile, that mom has no job and just lives off of the government assistance that she gets for her 6 kids that then grow up and say “fuck America” and fly Mexican flags. And then you have the Hispanics and asian people who live here and they know they can abuse the system, so when their grandma from Mexico needs surgery or gets sick, they bring her across the border to the hospital to get all of her medical for free, and then take her back once she’s fine again. I wasn’t political at all until I started working this job and saw where all my taxes were going.

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Nameless_Mofo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Shit like this I legit can not read too often, because it's really not good for my blood pressure. They all need to be deported ASAFP.

Also, shit like this is why however many billions the wall costs, it will pay for itself within 1-2 years.

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MAGA_MAN420 1 point ago +1 / -0

thats fucking unbelievable!

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rentfREEEE_since2016 7 points ago +7 / -0

CA loves having those jerymandered seats in congress though.

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Siteless_Vagrant 28 points ago +31 / -3

950 Fireliners would only cost ~$6.9 bln.

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PinochetIsMyHero 9 points ago +10 / -1

A 737 costs a lot more than $7 million.

(Of course, if you're talking about buying clapped-out ancient used jets that are about to fall out of the skies, sure, you can buy a not-even-useful-for-cargo-any-more 737 for that. That's how we get http://youtu.be/dqAzIgHIMtg )

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SexualTyrannosaurus 11 points ago +11 / -0

"In 2019 the Australian NSW Rural Fire Service has leased a Fireliner, known as 'Gaia' for around $2.5 million a year. The type is known as "Large Air Tanker" in Australia" http://www.b737.org.uk/fireliner.htm

Leasing is a thing.

Leasing 1,000 of them is only 2.5 billion. Leaving 22.5 billion for California's other bullshit cuckery.

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LIBS_are_LOSERS 5 points ago +5 / -0

If it flies, floats, or fornicates always rent it.

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SellTheSun 2 points ago +2 / -0

Leasing is def the way to go, don't have to worry about fleet maint. management and costs.

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PinochetIsMyHero 1 point ago +1 / -0

Which just means paying even more money in the long run because guess what, those leasing companies are in business to make a net profit.

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PinochetIsMyHero 1 point ago +1 / -0

You forgot the "per year". Any company that leases an asset is going to lease it for more than the amortized cost, that's why they're in business.

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CAIndependent 3 points ago +3 / -0

oh my god... that is horrible

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PinochetIsMyHero 1 point ago +1 / -0

It happens a surprising number of times. We lost another C130 in Australia last year. Canada had to stop operations for a while and inspect their Canadairs because of a similar crash with them. This is what happens when you "extend" the life of a worn out aircraft, otherwise headed for the scrap yard, for an extra decade or so just so that you don't have to buy a replacement.

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Siteless_Vagrant 3 points ago +3 / -0

I was going off of this. https://i.maga.host/g9zbHYF.png

 

Is there a reason that one wouldn't work? Do we always have to default to spending the maximum amount possible for EVERYTHING?

 

And you linked a C130. That particular one was made back in the 1950's. Keep it apples to apples.

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PinochetIsMyHero 1 point ago +1 / -0

The retrofitted clapped-out 737 was made in the 1970s.

Up to you whether you want to risk firefighters' lives on an aircraft that would have gone to the boneyard if someone hadn't decided to keep it flying just a couple of years longer as a disposable tanker.

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Pilotmtb 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah except that has never happened to a 737. That happened to a former military plane and the reason why we started to do metal fatigue inspections

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PinochetIsMyHero 1 point ago +1 / -0

We've been doing metal fatigue inspections since the 1950s when the British figured out that square corners on windows didn't work. That doesn't mean that you catch all of them before they crash.

Former Boeing worker here, BTW (back before the company got bought out by McDonalds-Dugass).

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Pilotmtb 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ok cool I guess I was mistaken there. Did this accident prompt any new inspections be done?

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KAGAnoRINO 7 points ago +7 / -0

I believe 737s are 90 million and the upgrades for weight load, tanks and avionics as 26.3 million

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Pilotmtb 3 points ago +3 / -0

Those are brand new prices you can buy used and covert for a lot less

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spez_this 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe they are factoring in retrofitting costs, storage, maintenance, crew, etc.?

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GoldenEagle1776 24 points ago +24 / -0

California, or at least it's gigantic hives of commie scum need to burn. The only way they'll break the brainwashing is if something titanic happens that they can no longer ignore.

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Trump_MacCleod 14 points ago +14 / -0

This. A thousand times this. I live here and am deeply involved with my local GOP. We are fighting for the State and fighting hard but there are so many apathetic people - so many people who are truly brainwashed, the State is so gerrymandered, and voter fraud is so rampant it truly is going to take something massive happening to jolt the public awake. It’s sad.

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knightofday 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree

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Ebbie8708 13 points ago +15 / -2

The state is literally on fucking fire.

Unless the state literally breaks into two like the Titanic, it’s fucked.

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GoldenEagle1776 8 points ago +10 / -2

It's not, don't cede ground. The cities must go, I don't care if it comes down to shelling them. Then once it's said and done we should be able to correct it's course.

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Ebbie8708 5 points ago +5 / -0

All I’m saying is that the smite of God isn’t having any effect on the people who run the shit. And the people who live under the rulers are content.

Meanwhile, the rest of us get fucking lectured about how CA is the end all, be the fuck all for how society should be. Goddamn commies are fucking up Arizona and TX. Colorado and Oregon got fucked and there’s no return for them.

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GoldenEagle1776 6 points ago +6 / -0

Aside from actively destroying the cities academia, the media, entertainment, banking and the political class must go. Also those locusts infecting the rest of the nation need to to be "dealt" with. That's the best I got when it comes to unfucking Cali and the rest of this country.

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Ebbie8708 5 points ago +5 / -0

Which is why we must drag everyone we can to the polling places with us. Most elderly got some kind of walker or wheelchair.

Push their old asses or carry if you must!

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ChelseaHubbell 11 points ago +11 / -0

California views wildfire season the same way a poor person looks forward to receiving their income tax return

It's a scam to get fedbux

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underthesmellybridge 9 points ago +12 / -3

It's now beyond clear that the people of California want their state to burn down, boil dry, and brown-out.

The rest of the country should let them have what they want.

Fortunately, with President Trump blocking the democrat plan to bail-out poorly run states like California, they should soon get their wish.

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panic_scam 8 points ago +10 / -2

The people that tout about “standing your ground” are the same pussies that pack up and leave once things don’t go their way. Guess what, some of us that have been born and raised in Cali are staying to fight it out. Cali will be red again.

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WhoIsThatMaskedMan 1 point ago +3 / -2

You can support stand your ground and still know that it's a good thing to evacuate your house when it's on fire. Sometimes fighting isn't a valid option.

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panic_scam 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m not talking about a fire here, bud.

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MagyarLadyPede -1 points ago +3 / -4

It is shocking to me how if leaders are psychopaths, people here want every person to die and burn. Thedonald is becoming psychopathic.

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Ekgamut -1 points ago +1 / -2

This is what happen when you let “former” leftists into here. They didn’t drop their old leftist habits. The attitude is the same.

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SquiggyMcPepe 8 points ago +8 / -0

Ironically the wildfires are doing the brush clearing that the state refused to do. Arsonists always find a way.

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T_WIN_2020 7 points ago +7 / -0

Hollywood is done. Restaurants done. No one will have disposable income even if shit opens up. 100m from Joe Rogan gone. Ben Shapiro and company gone.

Fires, riots, illegals!

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SlumberBalu 7 points ago +7 / -0

The democrats ALSO pay the BAIL for the terrorist SETTING EVERYTHING ON FIRE!

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yragcom1a 4 points ago +4 / -0

EVERY. FRIGGIN'. YEAR.

Every year we have fires in California. Every year we have to get planes to fight them. Every year, someone asks "why don't we have fire fighting planes?" every year, some government official says, "well, they're really expensive, so we just rent them." Every year, stuff burns. Every year, California is short in fire fighting resources.

EVERY. FRIGGIN'. YEAR.

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RocknnRobin 4 points ago +4 / -0

But then how could they milk that sweet federal cash cow?

No one in CA gov cares about the plebes who live there.

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XxxRDTPRNxxX 4 points ago +4 / -0

But those illegal aliens pay sales tax!!!! REEE!!!!

That 7.25% they pay on their groceries more than covers the hundreds of billions we have to spend cuz of them.

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james43552352345 4 points ago +4 / -0

In CA, most grocery items are exempt from sales tax so even the whole "we go to the store and pay sales tax" is mostly bull shit as well. Kinda funny, right?

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XxxRDTPRNxxX 1 point ago +1 / -0

How absurd.

I hate how lefties act like free shit for illegals is an investment. They literally call it that. But when you debate them, it becomes obvious they don't care if there's ever any return on that investment.

You tell them illegals cost X amount of money, they will come back and say "reee they pay sales tax"

You tell them, illegals have at least 2 kids on average and send them to public school where it takes 10k per year, per child to educate them.

They will say "That's an investment, they will grow up and pay taxes". Do they even know or care how long it will take those kids to pay back their $120,000 K-12 education by taxing their Walmart paychecks?

Then ask them if you think the kids should be able to get welfare while they grow up, and after they grow up. Of course they should! They are citizens, and they "pay taxes"... So go ahead and keep adding to what they cost.

But it's all okay... It's all great... Because you can say that technically a tax was paid, therefore the government got money.

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james43552352345 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yup, exactly. For CA, specifically, their progressive democrat state lives and dies based on what the rich people in CA do and the tech industry does. Most of the taxes are paid by the wealthy in CA and CA still manages to have a lot of wealthy people living there. Based on what I can tell, CA voters are pushing harder and harder to tax the rich in CA even more. The big wild card is what the rich decide to do. If we want CA to collapse quicker then we need to get the rich to leave CA and same for the tech industry.

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XxxRDTPRNxxX 2 points ago +2 / -0

These idiots never stop to realize rich people can just move and take all their money with them. They think they can just take all of Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates money and then expect them to be happy with whatever they let them keep.

Pay your fair share! They say..

Morons don't realize Jeff Bezos could buy citizenship at St Kitts and Nevis for $250,000 and then have his new country issue him a passport that lets him fly to any country in the world.

You gotta be retarded to think the wealthy are just gonna sit still and let you take all their stuff.

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james43552352345 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly! I have friends that work as private wealth management firms as CPAs. These wealthy people are international people. They usually have vacations homes all over the world. They just decide to put their roots down in CA and CA benefits immensely from that but the rich aren't dumb. They're willing to pay a certain amount but even the most liberal democrats will jump ship if the taxes are too high.

My friend says these rich liberal democrats act like republicans when they're talking to him. They're interested in tax strategies to minimize their tax liabilities. If they get a tax assessment, they want to fight it in court and so on.

It just boggles my mind why the rich, especially the super rich, lay their roots in CA when republican states are so much more reasonable with everything.

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XxxRDTPRNxxX 1 point ago +1 / -0

It just boggles my mind why the rich, especially the super rich, lay their roots in CA when republican states are so much more reasonable with everything.

Because they have enough money to not care, and they are willing to pay a premium to be near the best restaurants, hotels, entertainment, shopping districts, and attractions.

If I were a billionaire, I'd for sure have a home in New York and LA too.

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james43552352345 1 point ago +1 / -0

If I was a billionaire I would live in the place that fits me best economically and then take a "vacation" to the places that might just have a good overall lifestyle.

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HunterSthompson420 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yup. And they refuse control burns.

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HumanSomewhere 2 points ago +2 / -0

they throw people in jail who try to do controlled burns to protect their own property

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Chaotikizm 4 points ago +4 / -0

Controlled burns, rakes, and chainsaws. Well that and locking up socialist arsonists sounds cheaper to me.

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Omgwtfbbq 4 points ago +4 / -0

That just seems costly as opposed to clearing fuel for fires.

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Bax101 4 points ago +4 / -0

"Why is no one else building these in view of heightened wildfire action around the world?

“It’s just so expensive,” Coulson said. “It’s very, very costly to build and design.” Each conversion costs in the range of $25 million.

Between the B737s and its C130 Hercules, the Coulson fleet now owns two of the largest air tankers in the world."

Some how I think 950 of these is not accurate. https://www.bclocalnews.com/news/progress-2019-coulson-aviations-fireliners-advance-worlds-wildfire-arsenal/

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TaggartCiscontinenta 4 points ago +5 / -1

Ain’t just California wasting our money on non-Americans, bud. I love reading how the feds have given $142.4 Billion (non-inflation adjusted) to Israel but want Ohio & Kentucky to figure out how to pay $900M to replace the 55yr old bridge that links the two states & carrying traffic from Michigan all the way to Florida (172,00 vehicles/day) on I-75/I-71. Meanwhile chunks of it have fallen onto cars traveling on its lower deck. America FIRST goddamn it.

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GoldenEagle1776 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ever wonder why so many of our "representatives" have dual citizenship with Israel? It's because they're traitors selling us out to them. On the subject, dual citizenship shouldn't be a thing double so for a representative.

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TaggartCiscontinenta 2 points ago +3 / -1

Consider, at any given time there are 1000 US citizens serving in the Israeli military yet no one calls for them to automatically relinquish their American citizenship for signing up to die for a foreign government that spies on ours

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GoldenEagle1776 3 points ago +3 / -0

They should give up their citizenship if they're fighting for a foreign nation. I don't give a damn if they were born here.

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spez_this 4 points ago +4 / -0

The infrastructure in this whole freaking country has been ignored for far too long. Infrastructure budgets and set-asides are constantly being raided for other pet causes. Roads, bridges, tunnels, culverts, dams, sewers, electrical grids - all in various states of disrepair.

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TaggartCiscontinenta 1 point ago +2 / -1

It’s okay, it’s just the American people’s lives we’re risking here. We need that money (that we’re borrowing in the first place) elsewhere for things like “transformative change” in the middle east. /s

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Staatssicherheit 3 points ago +3 / -0

California is a failed state. What happens to neighboring countries when a state fails? Refugees is a given but what else? We need to start planning.

To the Americans still in California: Get out while you can or prepare to defend yourself without law enforcement. Organize or get out now.

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NvJohansson 3 points ago +3 / -0

CL-415 scoops are only 25 million a piece, so 1000 for 25 billion of them would have extinguished the whole West Coast overnight..

https://i.maga.host/2r1QaUv.png

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Gipgm2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Dumber that frog drool.The 7th largest economy in the world and they need maps to navigate around the human shit piles.

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spaceforceltc 3 points ago +3 / -0

But without illegals, my $12 avocado toast will cost $18.

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siliconia 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm convinced that the fires are a way for them to claim an emergency disaster, and then they're abusing that somehow.

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bck- 3 points ago +3 / -0

You mean the next time a series of arsonists set fires to the already dead trees in your area

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Faraday27 3 points ago +3 / -0

They keep their economy roaring with the slave class, in action not in name. The imported serfs to tend to their lawns, harvest their crops, serve them food, clean their houses.

The state of California is a modern monarchy with slaves, indentured servants, serfs, peasants, and the retinue of the monarchy.

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Anyone3427 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes.

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BladeX10 2 points ago +2 / -0

The areas that are burning are republican parts of CA and the state doesnt give a shit about it, Unless its for a Gavin Newsom photo op

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rossiFan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pretty sure these bills are lining someone's pockets as opposed to actually going to an illegal.

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Winston_Smith84 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let it burn. They made their bed, now lie in it.

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Colonel_Urinal 2 points ago +2 / -0

They wouldn’t need fireliners if they managed the fucking forests and told people to build at their own risk.

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PhD_in_everything 2 points ago +2 / -0

If they used that money for seeding clouds in the stratosphere, global average temperatures would drop by about 2°C literally overnight.

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XxxRDTPRNxxX 2 points ago +2 / -0

AKHUALLY!!!

737 Fire-liners cost 7.3 million

25 billion divided 7.3 million is actually 3,424 NOT 950...

Snopes Rating: False.

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Pedict 2 points ago +2 / -0

Looking a little like Sodom and Gamorrah on the left coast...........

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FUDGEreddit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Keep buying those votes, turds. You get what you pay for. And you pay for what you get.

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james43552352345 2 points ago +2 / -0

and based on the voter registration data recently released, the state continues to shift to democrats and republicans are declining. So it looks like CA will go off the deep end. Expect to hear more and more complains about how Trump is to blame for the fiscal disaster that is coming to California.

The only thing CA has going for it is that they have lots of rich people living there and a huge tech economy that is flush with cash. Even with that, I don't think they can tax that crowd enough to fix their problems. Even the most liberal leftists will leave CA if they're heavily taxed. Most liberals are complete hypocrites when it comes to how they act.

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Trump_USA_2020 2 points ago +3 / -1

The wildfires are God’s judgement of the sinful Commiefornia, whose residents legalized pedophilia, whose Hollywood studios normalized homosexuality and unnatural sexual orientations and gender dysphoria, and whose governor is a corrupt, idiotic, know-nothing buffoon. Commiefornia is the canary in the coal mine. America unfortunately is headed where Commiefornia is at right now.

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Lockherup2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

lol almost looks like it says Collusion

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veteran299 2 points ago +2 / -0

and i still cant eat inside a restaurant or go to the gym because newsom needs to justify cheat by mail

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Kdiddy 2 points ago +2 / -0

“gives”... they don’t “give” anything. They steal from people and use the money how they want. If people understood where there money really went, we wouldn’t be wrapped up in 75% of the problems we find ourselves in.

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solarsavior 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're not paying attention. They want it to burn.

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tonightm16 2 points ago +2 / -0

They dont give a fuck and never will.

As long as they can go online a tweet about whatever liberal retarded shit they do/ That's all they care about. Even living in their tents they still dot care.

To say liberals are actually mentally ill and are in need of medical help would be an understatement.

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ArshWar 2 points ago +2 / -0

I like the TrumpDynasty2064 decal on the tail. Is that a Baron Trump Presidency?

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IKEEPMUHFREEDOMTHX 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m sure the environment loves those fire suppressing chemicals as well....

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GeorgeKirby 2 points ago +2 / -0

I could’ve told you that.

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Theonlyagent 2 points ago +2 / -0

I heard those dumps cost 60k a pop. Surely theres a cheaper bio-matter in large amounts laying around we could use...

calculates fuel costs

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Press2forEnglish 2 points ago +2 / -0

California is a Latin American state with run by wealthy liberal whites. It acts as you would expect.

If your state doesn't have a comprehensive on-boarding program for California refugees, you need to get on that.

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Dev404 2 points ago +2 / -0

$25 billion to buy votes.

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MartyrX1776 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why does the fire plane have passenger windows?