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posted ago by Easter_Bunny +2742 / -0

Radio nerd here. (73 y'all)

I've seen pictures of people getting arrested and one thing I've noticed is that every now and again I'll see an FRS/GMRS radio with some of these rioters.

What does that mean? Well, it means they're organized. And you can be too.

As a radio operator, when we do events and such a common thing to do is to set up a "net control" or central command or some sort of base station. This station will have high power and an effective antenna. People can then meander around with an HT (handheld radio) and communicate back to the base.

This is effective in that two HT's, which are lower power and don't have a nice antenna profile, can communicate via the base station (otherwise known as a repeater).

This can work in a couple of different ways. In repeater mode, the HT's can all communicate with the higher power repeater and it rebroadcasts and everybody hears it. Or there might be a net control operator, the HT's communicate with net control (a person) and net control responds with advice or orders or some sort of information they wouldn't otherwise have.

This radio right here is one that is inexpensive and that I've seen used by people getting arrested. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BXCF85T/

Knowing radio technology, I can take an educated guess and say they're using GMRS. Here's why, a nice chart that shows the overlap between FRS and GMRS frequencies: https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FRS/GMRS_combined_channel_chart

You'll notice peak FRS power is 2w while GMRS peak power is 50w. If they're following legal operating power, which a lot of radios require in hardware, then that means they're operating between the frequencies of 462.5500 - 467.7250.

What does this mean and what can you do?

Well you can get a GMRS radio and antenna and listen and record. This is evidence if they're coordinating criminal activity and could help in a RICO case.

So what to do... Keep in mind this is a "line of site" radio technology, so everything's within a mile or so.

Option 1: You can spend $20 on the same radio I posted (or any GMRS radio) and set it to scan between the above frequencies. You're free to roam around.

Option 2: You can get a GMRS radio (even the HT) and use a vehicle mounted antenna. This will use the vehicle as a ground plane and have much better reception, around 3.5dBi. Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NWYVM94

Option 3: You can get a base station antenna and radio, this will have the most gain (up to 6.5dBi) with this antenna, but you're not going to be mobile. Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0784FQ9VB

They're talking to each other and coordinating right under your nose, this is how you go about listening in. Record any crimes. Fuck it, give them false orders too. Don't let them own this technology, we can use it too.

Radio nerd here. (73 y'all) I've seen pictures of people getting arrested and one thing I've noticed is that every now and again I'll see an FRS/GMRS radio with some of these rioters. What does that mean? Well, it means they're organized. And you can be too. As a radio operator, when we do events and such a common thing to do is to set up a "net control" or central command or some sort of base station. This station will have high power and an effective antenna. People can then meander around with an HT (handheld radio) and communicate back to the base. This is effective in that two HT's, which are lower power and don't have a nice antenna profile, can communicate via the base station (otherwise known as a repeater). This can work in a couple of different ways. In repeater mode, the HT's can all communicate with the higher power repeater and it rebroadcasts and everybody hears it. Or there might be a net control operator, the HT's communicate with net control (a person) and net control responds with advice or orders or some sort of information they wouldn't otherwise have. This radio right here is one that is inexpensive and that I've seen used by people getting arrested. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BXCF85T/ Knowing radio technology, I can take an educated guess and say they're using GMRS. Here's why, a nice chart that shows the overlap between FRS and GMRS frequencies: https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FRS/GMRS_combined_channel_chart You'll notice peak FRS power is 2w while GMRS peak power is 50w. If they're following legal operating power, which a lot of radios require in hardware, then that means they're operating between the frequencies of 462.5500 - 467.7250. What does this mean and what can you do? Well you can get a GMRS radio and antenna and listen and record. This is evidence if they're coordinating criminal activity and could help in a RICO case. So what to do... Keep in mind this is a "line of site" radio technology, so everything's within a mile or so. Option 1: You can spend $20 on the same radio I posted (or any GMRS radio) and set it to scan between the above frequencies. You're free to roam around. Option 2: You can get a GMRS radio (even the HT) and use a vehicle mounted antenna. This will use the vehicle as a ground plane and have much better reception, around 3.5dBi. Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NWYVM94 Option 3: You can get a base station antenna and radio, this will have the most gain (up to 6.5dBi) with this antenna, but you're not going to be mobile. Example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0784FQ9VB They're talking to each other and coordinating right under your nose, this is how you go about listening in. Record any crimes. Fuck it, give them false orders too. Don't let them own this technology, we can use it too.
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YourUncleBob 294 points ago +294 / -0

How about a live stream of antifa radio chatter.

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Lla26 144 points ago +144 / -0

EXCELLENT IDEA

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Rainman 81 points ago +81 / -0

That would be glorious

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Hunterscrackbaby 83 points ago +83 / -0

I could get something going. What to host on? Would probably get removed from Twitch/YT

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BeFreeToNotBeDumb 47 points ago +48 / -1

Discord stream?

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InterloperKO 29 points ago +29 / -0

discord is centrally moderated

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harrison_bergeron 37 points ago +37 / -0

You could do it on DLive.

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Infinite_Oreos 13 points ago +13 / -0

Seconding Dlive. Happening.Center does a great job from our perspective, and has been allowed to stream with impunity. I wouldn't expect similar leeway with Discord.

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harrison_bergeron 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yup. DLive's TOS is pretty permissive, though C&C had a recent suspension for showing Super Troopers 2 of all things.

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SryServiceDown 32 points ago +32 / -0

Link us when you are ready pede.

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behemoth887 20 points ago +20 / -0

there's some stream site named dlive.tv that riot streams happen on sometimes

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randomusename 16 points ago +16 / -0

If you can, reach out to Steve at PT News. He has been streaming riots, and would be interested in this. I've been watching him for a bit now.

https://www.facebook.com/PTNewsNetwork1/

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Desertwhale 13 points ago +13 / -0

Let me know if you end up doing this. I'd love to listen in!

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Wreckonteur 12 points ago +12 / -0

DLive.

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FireannDireach 10 points ago +10 / -0

Vimeo is the best "under the radar" platform that isn't cracking down. I'm not sure of the legalities of broadcasting radio like this, though, as it's not commercial broadcasting, and these radios operate outside of the bands that are strictly commercial. I believe - but cannot verify - you can post CB/Scanner feeds no problem, these radios may fall under the same rules.

I would post the feeds, and let YT figure the legality out. I dimly recall that snooping and recording wireless phones (not cell phones) wasn't illegal, because of the frequencies they used - I'm not an expert, and this is off OLD memories, but screw it - make a burner YT account and post it.

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JerryJerryJerry 5 points ago +5 / -0

It is perfectly legal to listen to FRS/GMRS and even ham frequencies, the FCC has various regulations on broadcasting on those frequencies, with licenses required for the latter two. I am not aware of any restrictions on streaming them, and there are plenty of sites/YT channels that stream police/fire/EMS radio chatter.

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sometimescanbefunny 8 points ago +8 / -0

Could see about getting in touch with doom tube/ Keksec on bitwave.tv - they might know more

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vegeta_ban 4 points ago +4 / -0 (edited)

Ustream edit, used to be free looks like a conglomerate ate it up and ruined it.

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ChipahTss 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do it!

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Jack_Burton 2 points ago +2 / -0

DLIVE

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Trumptastic88 28 points ago +34 / -6

its illegal to speak in code over the radio waves....but its also illegal to light s$!^ on fire too...

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HilaryAtCostco 11 points ago +11 / -0

Wouldn't those crimes fall under federal jurisdiction though?

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ifiwerearichman420 8 points ago +15 / -7

I honestly cant tell if he's serious or sarcastic. But there is no law against speaking in code over a radio considering almost all radio operators speak in some form of code. ie: 10-4 little buddy...

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daveywavey86 18 points ago +18 / -0

yes there is a rule against it. im a licensed general. you cannot speak in code that obscures the intended message. are you licensed? because you would know that if you were.

10 codes are for cb, different band, different rules, no license required. Q codes are accepted by the ARRL, they are even required knowledge to get a license. but go ahead, id love to see you explain this to me how im wrong.

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Whitemaledrinksbeer1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also, OP is telling people to give fake orders with GMRS. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I just paid $70 to the FCC for a license to use GMRS today, don't you need to be licensed to use GMRS?

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daveywavey86 5 points ago +5 / -0 (edited)

yes you do need to be licensed to transmit over GMRS. it is a $70 fee for 5 years.

EDIT: in 2017 they changed the duration from 5 to 10 years! :)

... continue reading thread?
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daveywavey86 4 points ago +5 / -1

yes, you need a gmrs license to transmit, you can still own a radio and listen with it. just looked it up and they increased it from 5 to 10 years / 70$ license fee in 2017.

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Trumptastic88 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol I've had several messages telling me I'm wrong about not being able to speak in code so thank you for backing me up. Its a question on the frikin exams hahaha

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daveywavey86 4 points ago +4 / -0

yes it is. the people arguing with you most likely are not licensed. anyone with AT LEAST a technician license knows this. you also can't use ham radio for business where money can be made. its stupid little rules like this that many people either don't know, or choose to disregard.

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ifiwerearichman420 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

part 97 for HAM radio has exceptions such as authentication purposes or for medical personnel. part 95 for FRS/GMRS says, (4) Coded messages or messages with hidden meanings (``10 codes are permissible);''

PART 95--PERSONAL RADIO SERVICES--Table of Contents

         Subpart A--General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS)

Sec. 95.183 Prohibited communications.

(a) A station operator must not communicate:
(1) Messages for hire, whether the remuneration received is direct

or indirect; (2) Messages in connection with any activity which is against Federal, State, or local law; (3) False or deceptive messages; ** (4) Coded messages or messages with hidden meanings (``10 codes'' are permissible);** (5) Intentional interference; (6) Music, whistling, sound effects or material to amuse or entertain; (7) Obscene, profane or indecent words, language or meaning;

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daveywavey86 1 point ago +1 / -0

you are making my point, you realize this right? no one is saying 10-codes or Q-codes aren't allowed. in fact, if you read the rest of the replies, you'd see that i already wrote that several times yesterday.

are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? because i've already made this point several times in this thread.

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PepisMaximus 8 points ago +10 / -2

So I think they are confusing two related things.

There are FCC regulations banning encryption over any HAM broadcasts, CB, and a wide range of commercial frequencies.

The only people allowed to broadcast encrypted chatter are government entities (feds, cops, etc) and telecom companies with federal licensing.

By a very technical reading using simple word codes with the intent of concealing the message is broadcasting unlicensed encrypted radio.

I would be shocked if you could be held accountable for that alone in court, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it as an add on charge if the book gets thrown.

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Jack_Burton 2 points ago +2 / -0

I may be wrong, but I believe business frequencies can be encrypted...

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzDj0u1HhvE&t=533s

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PepisMaximus 1 point ago +2 / -1

I thought I typed a reply to this earlier, but I can't find it now so sorry if this is a double reply.

The guy in the video doesn't really go into details about it but when he says "amateur frequencies can't be encrypted" he's basically saying the same thing I am.

To use encrypted radio you need:

  • a good reason

  • a license to the frequency spectrum you are using from the FCC

This is to facilitate things like, quickly locating and disrupting drug traffickers or terrorists or really anyone using radio for crime.

You don't have to bother decrypting the communication to figure out "oh they are talking about bombing a building" you can know they are up to no good just by the fact they are broadcasting unlicensed encryption.

Groups that typically get encrypted radio are stuff like: cops, private security, fire and rescue, feds, rarely event security for large or high value events, some forest service and logging related activities, and telecoms.

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daveywavey86 2 points ago +2 / -0

i agree with you for the most part. general here.

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ifiwerearichman420 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are correct. There are exceptions to all the rules. When I made my statement I was being specific to FRS and GMRS as Easter_Bunny was specific to FRS and GMRS. I used a 10 code as an example because it is explicitly permissible in the FCC's PART 95 for FRS and GMRS.

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a_grassnake_01 7 points ago +7 / -0

In the US it is illegal to transmit using codes or ciphers over a radio with the purpose of hiding the meaning of the content unless the license you are operating it under allows it.

TL;DR It depends.

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Ask_If_Im_A_Cactus 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yes there is

This is blatantly incorrect

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FireannDireach 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's CB bands. As I understand it, different frequency bands have different rules applied - the ones commercial radios operate in have different rules than CB, etc. NOT my wheelhouse, though.

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Trumptastic88 4 points ago +4 / -0

FCC so yes

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quartz 7 points ago +7 / -0

its illegal to speak in code over the radio waves

Really? That's interesting.

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fuzzywhiterabbit 5 points ago +5 / -0

Encryption might be what they're actually referring to.

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cowpen 2 points ago +2 / -0

˙ʇǝuɹǝʇuI ǝɥʇ uo ǝpoɔ uᴉ ǝdʎʇ oʇ lɐƃǝl ʎlʇɔǝɟɹǝd s,ʇᴉ ʇnq sǝʎ

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Jack_Burton 1 point ago +1 / -0

They'll have to be pushed to private business freqs and that creates a money trail.

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0nDaFence 17 points ago +17 / -0

Get a SDR (Software Defined Receiver) kit off amazon. Tons of Open Souce programs and code bases. Can also implement GPS tracking with RSI/SN level readings. Auto generate metadata to a spreadsheet.

SD Cards for recording VOX information.

Basic vacuum is a monopole antenna. More sophisticated means can use Yagi or Parabola antennas for directional capabilities. Teams of 3-5 for triangle azimuth based Direction finding.

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dougEfresh99 9 points ago +9 / -0

Hack RF is a great brand. Learn GNU radio, and find some nice antennas that fit those FRS frequency bands. You can even link two or more of those Hack RF SDRs together for more fun! All in the name of science!

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davidarowe 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't need teams to DF. Just need to be mobile. Other open source solutions allow for heatmapping and plotting based on multiple collections without needing more antennas. Make or buy different gain antennas to tune sensitivity and freq.

And don't forget about 802.11 and 802.15. Everyone's got a phone and they usually leave those two radios on. An emitter is an emitter is an emitter.

Also, strongly suggest not transmitting over FCC limits. Stay in a passive monitoring mode if possible. You won't be the only one interested in Antifa, and if you step all over the spectrum you will likely have a bad day.

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cowpen 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pack heavy duty wire cutters.

Triangulate the base station antifa van.

Disable transmitting antenna.

Profit.

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_-Th0r-_ 16 points ago +16 / -0

IMO a full video recording is better than live stream.

Just as a streamer can end up playing against someone watching their stream, it’s probably better to just straight document their comms and release in full + highlight reel.

You gotta know those support vans are where this is all coming from.

Now I need to suck it up and finish studying for my ham license.

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ifiwerearichman420 6 points ago +6 / -0

There are live streams of police chatter all around the US. So why not?

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DeathBeforeCommunism 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think I can hear it now:

"MEDIC! MEDIC! UH MEDIC! WE NEED A MEDIC! ANYONE A MEDIC?! MEDIC!"

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FireannDireach 5 points ago +5 / -0

From every city.

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Nogozone 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!

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3Always3Victorious3 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not such a good idea... it would just make it easier for them to communicate with their gang as the gang can just tune-in to the live stream in bad reception areas.

Best to muddle up their communication with loud high-pitch crackling noises!

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Induceddrag 3 points ago +3 / -0

More effective to just key the mic with no noise at all. It will take them a while to figure out what is going on.

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3Always3Victorious3 2 points ago +2 / -0

After the figure out what is going on... will they be able to do anything about it?

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Induceddrag 4 points ago +4 / -0

Try to coordinate a channel switch.

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TGNX 3 points ago +3 / -0

You, sir, have earned a cookie.

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Falcon9h 102 points ago +102 / -0

They're certainly not smart enough to reprogram the radios to something else.

FYI https://gist.github.com/kennedy/11278351 PL's are listed

That channel plan programmed into a scanner with a VOX record output would be the ticket.

Other guys were chasing girls and I was fixing old radios, been at it for a long time!

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Easter_Bunny [S] 56 points ago +56 / -0

VOX record on a scanner is a great idea.

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linereddit 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would have loved to have live throat mike audio of the fire dancers...

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augustinius 30 points ago +30 / -0

Wish I'd been more like you and less like the other guys.

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Easter_Bunny [S] 51 points ago +51 / -0

Second best time to get started is right now.

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InterloperKO 14 points ago +14 / -0

What do you think would be a good resource to get a foundational understanding? Book?

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Easter_Bunny [S] 25 points ago +25 / -0

Honestly, the best place to get into this is with a ham radio club. We do all sorts of stuff, GMRS and these other bands aren't us but it's super simple after messing with ham radio.

You can find a club here: http://www.arrl.org/find-a-club

I'd encourage you to go to the club and meet some people, get a cheap radio and listen in on your local repeater. It's really some fun stuff!

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InterloperKO 6 points ago +6 / -0

It appears there are none close to me. Is there a book you recommend?

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Casualize 4 points ago +4 / -0

What state?

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DisgustedByMisleadia 8 points ago +8 / -0

PL's won't be needed unless you are transmitting disinformation and want to be sure their radios break squelch.

If you have the right cable, Chirp can be used to reprogram these radios and remove the PL. But, I like your idea of using a scanner, or at least a radio that can be programmed to scan. I don't think the radios linked by the OP will do it.

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M1919A2 3 points ago +3 / -0

The other radio they use is the UV-5R sold under a couple different brands such as tenway and beofang. They got in trouble because they used to be able to be modified to transmit a far more powerful signal than allowed by law using CHIRP or similar software. It's also been very popular in prepper circles for its price. We have a couple after we got a GMRS family license for when we're in the mountains skiing. The cobra or midland FRS radios just didn't have enough power usually and at $25 if someone takes a spill and it ends up damaging the radio it's not a big deal.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 3 points ago +3 / -0

I thought about buying a UV-5R as a "throwaway" amateur radio handheld (I'm an Extra class ham) that I don't have to worry about damaging. I already have a digital/analog handheld that is an order of magnitude more expensive.

But, I passed after the ARRL published an article showing the results of testing for it and a few other popular handhelds. The UV-5R had the dubious honor of being the only tested radio that wasn't in compliance with FCC rules on spurious and harmonic emissions.

It wasn't an isolated instance. They bought 45 units in 2019 on the retail market, and 78% were out of spec. In 2016 and 2017, the results were even worse.

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dougEfresh99 1 point ago +2 / -1

Some of those chinese handhelds can freq-hop from my understanding. Tough nut to crack.

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EPic 69 points ago +71 / -2

Every law enforcement agency has stingrays everywhere and knows where every Antifa is at all times through GPS tracking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker

Their hands are just tired from upper management.

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Easter_Bunny [S] 79 points ago +79 / -0

We're not constrained.

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EPic 58 points ago +59 / -1

I do like the "giving them false orders" idea.

Just keep them running in circles by telling them there are LEO at the location they are planning to go to.

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AntiDefecationLeague 77 points ago +77 / -0

Tell them theres a lone nazi in a MAGA hat all by himself at a certain intersection. When they get there it's a muslim religious celebration and the muslims notice they're all trannies and atheists

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EPic 39 points ago +39 / -0

I like the cut of your jib.

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Taqiyya_Mockingbird 31 points ago +31 / -0

This. KEK demands chaos.

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EPic 27 points ago +27 / -0

" ABORT, ABORT, LEO COMING TO YOUR LOCATION !!!!! "

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yurimodin 10 points ago +10 / -0

MEDIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mr_Pink 5 points ago +5 / -0

Chaos for the chaos god!

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TURNITBACKONTHEM2 27 points ago +27 / -0

Just spot an antifa video recording and give everyone a description of "the trump supporter spy."

Let them kill their own.

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EPic 3 points ago +6 / -3

Pretty sure you don't want to do that, legally speaking.

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TURNITBACKONTHEM2 7 points ago +7 / -0

Why not? You are not calling for violence or directing them to do anything illegal.

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FlaviusOdo 5 points ago +5 / -0

A few years back a girl was charged with some degree of murder because her bullying lead to her victim committing suicide.

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TURNITBACKONTHEM2 13 points ago +13 / -0

She also actively told him he should kill himself. That is a huge leap from "the guy with the pink shirt is a trump supporter spy"

Now if you add in a "go get him" you may have an argument.

... continue reading thread?
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EPic 3 points ago +5 / -2

Don't catch manslaughter charges.

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Sum_devil 18 points ago +18 / -0

“Oh shit guys, you got bikers on your flank! Run!”

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booblitchutz 12 points ago +12 / -0

This would backfire, I think the coms people probably use code and coordinate on it regularly. Remember that the foot soldiers of blmantifa are meth head wasteoids, but the people pulling the strings are more organized and have SOME wherewithal.

Chances are if you just hopped on and started talking about MAGA hat dudes on a street corner, they'd sniff that out immediately.

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EPic 9 points ago +9 / -0

We are talking about Antifa here. If they use any code, the members would be too stupid to remember it.

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booblitchutz 10 points ago +10 / -0

Maybe, but it's a mistake to assume the meth head trannies that are out there throwing rocks are the ones driving coms, etc.

They have a pretty solid legal team, tons of money and obviously enough people with a head on their shoulders to mount a fairly large military offensive against the USA, something no other nation state has been able to do!

I agree that they are being aided by corrupted law enforcement and prosecutors at the federal, state and local level as well as politicians and media, but to assume that there's no competent leadership in blmantifa is unwise.

It depresses me to hell that we haven't treated this attack on our land as an act of war, which it is. blmantifa are taking excellent advantage of our weakness as a nation to launch this full scale assault.

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EPic 9 points ago +9 / -0

Antifa Command & Control are trained.

Rank & File are dumb as a bag of rocks.

Just my opinion on the matter.

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that_sound 24 points ago +24 / -0

If they're using radios it's likely because they are worried about being tracked and have left their phones at home.

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EPic 14 points ago +16 / -2

Because Radios do not have a century of technology built to monitor them.

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Easter_Bunny [S] 22 points ago +22 / -0

$20 Chinese radios don't have any tracking. In fact, most radios do not. They aren't on towers with IEMI numbers identifying them like cellular phones do.

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EPic 19 points ago +19 / -0

The $20 Chinese radios are the ones that probably do have tracking in the hardware lol

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Easter_Bunny [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

Fair LOL

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EPic 12 points ago +12 / -0

At this point, I know its a meme, but I wouldn't trust a toaster made in China.

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Durdurdurkistan 5 points ago +5 / -0

FFS they are sending seeds to random people in the US as some sort of bioweapon.

We need to rekindle the same kind of relationship we had with China before 1970: proxy wars through neighboring countries.

... continue reading thread?
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PepisMaximus 2 points ago +3 / -1

With any radio, you are broadcasting your position any time you are sending info.

And any handhelds they are buying in the US are not going to have encryption because of FCC licensing.

Police have had radio monitoring tools for like 50 years at this point, and these days its hooked up to a computer.

Couple that with fundamental distance limitations of handheld radios, and the cops will have a pretty good idea of where you are.

Hell, with just 2 cops they can use directional antennas if they are so inclined and fox hunt any big repeaters or base stations as soon as they come online.

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Naughtalus 5 points ago +5 / -0

Its trivial to track a broadcasting radio but it doesn't give you an id and you have to physically go find it while it is broadcasting

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EPic 4 points ago +4 / -0

It doesn't take Magnum PI to track someone giving instructions / directions by radio.

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DZP1 7 points ago +7 / -0

You would think so, but antifa puts people in vehicles to do that, so they are less visible. Apparently they have a command hierarchy that places leaders on wheels.

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AntiDefecationLeague 62 points ago +62 / -0

Mods need to sticky more cool shit like this

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dontCensorMeBro 24 points ago +24 / -0

yeah this is close to the operation mind of 4chan, actually doing something funny/useful, like then they identified ISIS training camps locations via propaganda videos and tweeted them to their middle man in the Russian Army, one day later RUAF bombed the shit out of these places.

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Lla26 51 points ago +51 / -0

Bless you, radio nerd!

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augustinius 49 points ago +49 / -0

WE HAVE THE BEST BOOMERS, FOLKS!

Seriously, elder pede, thanks so much for this post. Some great knowledge that's actually practical in this and many other contexts.

God bless!

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Easter_Bunny [S] 50 points ago +50 / -0

I'm not that old, but I'm getting there. GenX FTW!!!

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augustinius 19 points ago +19 / -0

Hahaha sorry man, another body just explained the 73 reference to me. All the good numbers to ya!

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AZTrumpette1776 14 points ago +14 / -0

Can you explain it to me?

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augustinius 26 points ago +26 / -0

Apparently 73 is old American telegraph abbreviation for “best regards”; ham radio operators say it as a collegial greeting/goodbye. Another one is 88, which is "love and kisses" (I think).

So saying "all the good numbers" is a CB/ham/radio operator salutation.

I just feel like an 80s trucker when typing all this haha.

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AZTrumpette1776 10 points ago +10 / -0

Thank you.

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Scroon 3 points ago +3 / -0

There's a good graphic on this page that shows why "73" is easy and recognizable as a sign-off. It's symmetric and has a nice rhythm.

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~rtoyama/73flash.html#:~:text=The%20graphic%20image%20above%20represents,the%20language%20of%20ham%20radio.

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Trumptastic88 16 points ago +16 / -0

73 was a quick key code from morse days.

73 is an old telegraph code that means "best regards". 73, as well as 88 (which means "hugs and kisses") are part of the language of ham radio.

Hams typically say "73's" at the end of a conversation.

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THELEADERSOFMEN 13 points ago +13 / -0

Okay maybe I’ve spent too much time thinking about /pol/ memes but 88 meaning “love and kisses” just cracks me up!

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Easter_Bunny [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's true.

It's usually used in CW (morse code) when an OM (old man) make a QSO (contact) with a YL (young lady), I'll send 73 and the YL might send 88. Then comes the old shower and shave signoff. :p

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AZTrumpette1776 4 points ago +4 / -0

thank you.

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treetrunks 32 points ago +32 / -0

We have the best radio nerds

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0095D 29 points ago +29 / -0 (edited)

You just made me realize radio has to be a common way they communicate. Calls and texts leave records. Radio broadcasts forever disappear into the ether unless someone was close enough to and recording the broadcast. If possible, we need radio pedes around the country to start sweeping bands (or whatever they call it to monitor a bunch of frequencies) when these nighttime " " "protests" " " are happening. I don't know what equipment is required or how much it would cost... or if it's even legal to do that... but that would be fantastic to pick up a bunch of their radio chatter proving this chaos is being orchestrated and not "like totes organic, guys" that media keeps pushing.

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stratocaster_patriot 15 points ago +15 / -0

It is legal to monitor any frequency band but you need a license to broadcast.

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thebigbear 7 points ago +7 / -0

I am betting they do not have a licence. Paperwork, call signs, tracking. WWG1WGA

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GhostOfMyFormerSelf 5 points ago +5 / -0

Parking a vehicle with an obvious antenna or two in their vicinity could do a lot to keep them guessing as well.

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MaskManDate 24 points ago +24 / -0

But I already spent my stimulus on AR parts.

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M1919A2 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can get the radios they are using for $25 on amazon.

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freedom_bigly 3 points ago +3 / -0

But I could get 5 rounds of 9mm with that!

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Yucky 22 points ago +22 / -0

Good info. But how do you guess the frequency they are on? Do you just scroll in between that range you mentioned until you hear something?

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Easter_Bunny [S] 29 points ago +29 / -0

Good question.

Given the frequency ranges here: https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/FRS/GMRS_combined_channel_chart

and here: https://gist.github.com/kennedy/11278351

It's assumed there are 16 channels to focus on, all you need to do is put the radio in "scan" mode and it'll cycle through the channels and stop when it breaks squelch (hears people talking).

u/Falcon9h above recommended VOX recording, VOX means "Voice activated switch" so the recorder starts recording when it hears people talking. That's getting a little more technical, but it's a fun project to set up. Maybe I'll have to set something up and post a how-to.

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freewillsetstruth 12 points ago +12 / -0

The radios can scan the frequencies for chatter. You keep it scanning until it hits chatter. You then confirm if it is illegal activity or not. Then proceed accordingly

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bidensmissingbrain 10 points ago +10 / -0

Get a scanner or a radio with a scanner function and just set it to scan for chatter. Won't take long to figure it out.

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FireannDireach 4 points ago +4 / -0

Keep in mind, you have to be in range of their base radios or hand held units. These are basically walkie talkies. They're not broadcasting like an AM station that you can pick up states away, you have to be pretty close to them physicially. That's how these radios are legal, they're designed for hikers, or construction sites, they're low power units with limited range, not CB radios broadcasting over hundreds or thousands of miles.

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PepisMaximus 3 points ago +4 / -1

not CB radios broadcasting over hundreds or thousands of miles.

I think you are confusing CB and HAM.

CB radios rarely broadcast that far as they don't use repeaters most of the time.

HAM does, as do many licensed bodies like the forest service, police, fire, and even hospitals.

To get any kind of group organization with handhelds, either everyone will have to be within just a mile or so, or they will need a more powerful base station; probably in a vehicle.

The base station is the real thing to track and listen to.

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FireannDireach 2 points ago +2 / -0

None of that disputes my point - you have to be near their base, or their radios, to tune in.

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PepisMaximus 1 point ago +2 / -1

By the nature of how a base station functions, it will be a more powerful transmitter and thusly easier to locate from a distance, especially with a sensitive receiver.

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global_cafeous 2 points ago +2 / -0

CB radios rarely broadcast that far as they don't use repeaters most of the time

Except when they're using illegal high power and the MUF is high enough to make the band open...

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PepisMaximus 2 points ago +3 / -1

You think antifa is skipping off the ionosphere to coordinate protests?

The handhelds aren't gonna be returning that signal.

They are gonna have a net controller in a car driving around somewhere near the protest, probably ready to bug out in a hurry, and that person is probably gonna be coordinating with higher ups via signal or telegram.

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global_cafeous 1 point ago +2 / -1

No, just making a general remark.

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Dumdum 19 points ago +19 / -0

Mods, sticky this, please!

Wish I could give you more than an upvote... u/WallBot

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WallBot 1 point ago +1 / -0

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mickusa1 18 points ago +18 / -0

Great info -

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kc5ods 17 points ago +17 / -0

a much better idea is to have the local Ham population go on a foxhunt for unlicensed users of the GMRS band... that'll wipe those suckers out real quick

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Easter_Bunny [S] 17 points ago +17 / -0

Howdy there 5-lander. As you might know, the clubs in the cities are pretty well retarded just like the rest of the population. If we could get evidence of unlicensed operation those fines are $10k each.

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kc5ods 12 points ago +12 / -0

Sad state of affairs then. Where I grew up they took great pleasure in hunting down un-licensed operators

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stratocaster_patriot 9 points ago +9 / -0

True but that's a lot like trying to get blood from a stone. These people have no money and don't care for laws and will never pay up.

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Mr_Pink 6 points ago +6 / -0

You might not get blood, but you can still crush the stone.

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keffman77 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yay! I get to test out my newly built yagi on some commie scum!

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kc5ods 2 points ago +2 / -0

right there with ya, pede! thanks to SDR and the incredible advanced software for those, we can pinpoint them with GPS-like accuracy if just two more people will team up!

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that_sound 15 points ago +15 / -0

Not directly pertinent, but reminded me. They use radios (and lie about it):

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/04/02/confirmed-nellie-ohr-lied-about-ham-radio-to-congress/

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Titan93 13 points ago +13 / -0

Thanks patriot!

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9000ENERGY 13 points ago +13 / -0

Can you provide a link to how to build a spark gap generator? My uh friend has been trying to do research on this but can’t find plans anywhere.

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Easter_Bunny [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

Username checks out LOL

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ConstitutionalistDon 2 points ago +2 / -0

https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/spark-gap-transmitters-and-receivers/34047

https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/how-to-build-a-radiodrone-jammer/34089

Note: I don't know if it's illegal to build one, though it says it's only illegal to actually use it. You should check your local laws, and this information should only be used for educational purposes. Godspeed.

By the way, these guys have a Patriot Radio podcast: https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/patriot-broadcast-archives

Check it out if you're looking for some based listening.

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Trump_2024 11 points ago +11 / -0

This needs a sticky. Good job, pede.

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Kottonballs 10 points ago +10 / -0

Please know that GMRS channel use is restricted and requires an FCC ID. I have one as well as a call sign, easy to get.

GMRS radios also operate on FRS frequencies, FRS isn't restricted.

My point being that the FCC could arrest them if they wanted to...but they won't.

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Easter_Bunny [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

True, for transmitting.

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Kottonballs 4 points ago +4 / -0

Correct. Sorry, I should have been more clear.

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M1919A2 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's $70 for a 10 year GMRS license that covers everyone in a household. We have one as we go skiing and found the FRS radios don't work well, but GMRS does much better when communicating on the mountain and with the condo.

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Kottonballs 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup, very cheap and worth it. I just can't ever remember my callsign. :)

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Danmax67 9 points ago +9 / -0

We have the best radio operators, don't we folks.

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Lasernuts 9 points ago +9 / -0

Chances are they are using base line channels in the 5-10 default channel range

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Easter_Bunny [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Definitely something in the 50w range, that was a base would have maximum coverage.

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Lasernuts 8 points ago +8 / -0

Actually - police have been reporting comms being jammed up at times - I wouldn’t hesitate to believe these fuckheads are using 50w transmitters on FRS channels which is only rated for 5w - which would cause a random frequency to absorb the excess 45w “noise” left over

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Easter_Bunny [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Oh yeah, it's not difficult to do.

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Lasernuts 5 points ago +5 / -0

Used to go to airsoft events/games for “force on force” and refining my plate carrier - one thing we all had to be careful of is not to overpower the FRS frequencies by accident because that royally fucks something up from EMS to Police even into military comms. And I remember researching that the FCC can rapidly pinpoint where the knucklehead is when it happens

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Gilliais 8 points ago +8 / -0

Remember when Nellie Ohr got her ham radio license in 2016? Pepe farms remembers.

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unleash_maga 7 points ago +7 / -0

Great info!

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Oback_Barama 7 points ago +7 / -0

73 to you too pede! very informative

(yes I had to look it up)

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stratocaster_patriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Had to look it up too. I thought since he said he was GenX that this was his birth year.

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Dialectic 6 points ago +6 / -0

Cool post. Elder pede for the win

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stratocaster_patriot 6 points ago +6 / -0

Note that the radio used and linked to amazon is a Chinese made radio - Baofeng. If you buy American I would expect to pay $70+. What's more the Baofeng has some illegal capabilities (can access restricted frequencies I believe) and I think it's illegal for use as GRMS. I also think all transmission is illegal without a license from the FCC. You typical HAM radio license will not cover this.

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Trumptastic88 6 points ago +6 / -0

Your message is full quieting through theDonald.Win here. Figured I'd say hey from the southeast and I WISH I had some juicy Antifa convos I could tune into and report on but I live in oneof the most based counties out there. Noone would put up with that Antifa garbage.

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Easter_Bunny [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

I'm in Central Texas, no Antifa here. I could go to Austin to find them I suppose.

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booblitchutz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Silly Rabbit, don't you know antifa is a myth?

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SquidThrowFaux 2 points ago +2 / -0

The best Appleseeds in the state are hosted in your backyard (@the CTRP club). It's not a good place to raise pedo-communists or redcoats.

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Revster13 6 points ago +6 / -0

Excellent post man. Gotta keep our ears to the ground. If anyone does happen to get a recording or live stream of these folks, make sure to report it to the feds if possible. Don't want to have your local DA be an absolute cuck and let them off the hook like the one we got here in Oregon.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 6 points ago +6 / -0

Find out their frequency and wait until they're all gathered together then rickroll them on repeat and don't stop.

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Easter_Bunny [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think the mag mounts will fit right on so long as they're SMA, it doesn't say in the description but most are SMA connectors. Here's a quick search for a mag mount: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00W6TJOOQ

Look at the connector, does it look like it would screw right in?

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Easter_Bunny [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you've got questions let me know. GMRS isn't exactly my thing but it's not rocket surgery or anything.

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slimcoat 6 points ago +6 / -0

Does the operation of any of this equipment require a ham radio license?

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Easter_Bunny [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

Great question.

These are not amateur radio (ham) bands, so technically the answer is no.

Listening on any frequency does not require any sort of license.

Transmitting on amateur bands (ham) does require a license, MURS and FRS does not require any license, and GMRS does require a license that can be acquired here: https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/systems-utilities/universal-licensing-system

FRS and GMRS do share some bands, so the line is murky there... Technically you're supposed to have a GMRS license in that part of FRS I do believe.

More information on licenses required here: https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/personal-radio-services-prs-keeping-touch

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slimcoat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you!

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yurimodin 2 points ago +2 / -0

not FRS/GMRS/MURS approved radios.....the Baofeng type radios are actually illegal to use on those frequencies but it looks like Klantifa is doing it anyway.......you don't need any license if you are just listening.

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Easter_Bunny [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes. Exactly like that. The top channel is in the GMRS range, but isn't exactly on a channel.

The 151 range is another frequency range like GMRS/FRS called MURS. It's a fine band as well, less fidelity but longer range.

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MAGAlikethis 3 points ago +3 / -0

@ 2:50 - NLG - National Lawyers Guild - https://www.nlg.org/

This is the group funded by BLM that instantly bails out every protester in the US

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Amaroq64 1 point ago +1 / -0

WE NEED A MEDIC

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dougEfresh99 5 points ago +5 / -0

This pede knows what he is talking about! Not only can you listen to these soy cakes, you can jam them too! Tune in to their channel, and key the mic for about 10 seconds. Un-key, and then listen. See if they pop back up on the same channel. If they don't, hop to the next channel, listen, and key the mic. You are in effect jamming their communications. When listening in, take note of the channel (frequency), and also listen for call signs or code words. Use your autism to put that all in an excel spreadsheet, take note of the location, and pass it to your local LEOs / FBI.

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SikoraP13 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fellow radio nerd here. Not a HAM, but an Electrical Engi with a focus in Applied Emag/Comms. Theoretically, if we had enough base stations with power measurements, and could get power readings, it should be fairly trivial to triangulate a rough position of where the broadcasts are coming from. Granted, multipath scatter in a city will make any kind of pinpoint situation difficult, however, but given that we have a rough idea of the actual transmit power, mixed with someone on the ground, it should be possible for some kind of combination of techie power and good ole fashioned on the ground surveillance to get an idea of where things are coming from.

Additionally, for folks on the ground wanting to do near-range signal exploration, the low-cost RF Explorer spectrum analyzer paired with a directional antenna could get you an idea. Note, these are uncalibrated devices, so you're not going to be able to get much use from the triangulation perspective, but you will be able to likely perform direction finding (assuming you have a directional antenna).

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Easter_Bunny [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Oh a get 2-3 people with box or yagi antennas and you can triangulate rather easily. Once you get close attenuate the noise and you can walk right up to the base station. We do fox hunts with much lower power transmitted!

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SikoraP13 6 points ago +6 / -0

For sure, but it also depends pretty heavily on the terrain. If you've got open line of sight, sure, but if you're in the shadow of a tall metal or brick building, you're a lot less likely to see a signal to start with. It's the major multipath problem if they're trying to Rx at the street level in urban environments. You can in some cases point an antenna in a direction and if there's a large enough building in the way, you might miss it, especially if there's less attenuated diffusion through a semi-adjacent path, say an adjacent street..

Never done the foxhunt thing though it does sound like fun. I'm pretty sure RF explorer makes a signal generator too, if you're ever looking for a tiny inconspicuous Tx for a foxhunt.

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Blurpy 5 points ago +5 / -0

Excellent info here. I have to assume the feds are listening in to all this chatter as well, and a huge pile of data is being collected. There is an FAA no fly zone over the pearl district in Portland, and it is assumed the feds did that to let military intelligence drones fly.

Personally, I would not give fake orders or transmit, so as to not muddle or confuse the intelligence being collected. Its very tempting though! Listen and learn their code names and chatter style, and then scare them with false info. Great in theory, but I think Feds are taping all of it.

I do like the idea of listening in to them, and staying one step ahead.

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BlowfishandFunk 4 points ago +4 / -0

I really need to get my ham license. When we all organize we need to be better prepared than the commies faggots

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Desdemona 4 points ago +4 / -0

Why can't they just use cellphones and have the same result?

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Easter_Bunny [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Towers track IEMI, radios don't have that.

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SquidThrowFaux 2 points ago +2 / -0

Police don't even need to go to the telco companies. They can use a man-in-the-middle device called a stingray.

https://youtu.be/JULAwImWsMw

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global_cafeous 4 points ago +4 / -0

Since FRS (and the main bulk of GMRS) frequencies are within 2.4 MHz, you could use an RTL-SDR (rather cheap) to record the entire band. With some extra programming, you could generate recordings of all of the transmissions from it.

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banumerchantmarine 4 points ago +4 / -0

I bet I can triangulate a base station pretty fucking quick once I have their main freq.

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sgt_richard 4 points ago +4 / -0

Only one thing wrong with your plan. The doj, fbi etc. are asleep at the wheel. We're on our own, they give two shits about us.

Fuck you barr.

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