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free-money- 595 points ago +596 / -1 (edited)
  1. 1st-Degree Reckless Homicide

  2. 1st-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety.

  3. 1st-Degree Intentional Homicide

  4. Attempt 1st-Degree Intentional Homicide

  5. 1st-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety

  6. Possession Dangerous Weapon (Misd.)

Somebody is really throwing the book at him.

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cjcivicx 577 points ago +578 / -1

They’re trying, they’ll fail, and they’ll be sued into oblivion.

Brucesky420 599 points ago +599 / -0

Sue every single media company that called him a white supremacist while they're at it

Wrexxis780 477 points ago +478 / -1

They didn't learn from Sandmann. Make them learn again.

MarcusAurelius 356 points ago +356 / -0

2020: Make CNN pay a defamation lawsuit again.

Skogin 143 points ago +143 / -0

As many as possible.

Hillarys_Diaper 94 points ago +94 / -0

Sue the Roof off that bitch.

ORD_to_SFO 70 points ago +70 / -0

And then sue the bitch that was under the roof.

CelesteD 64 points ago +65 / -1

2 20's, 2 terms, 2 scoops, 2 defamation cases

Defender110 52 points ago +52 / -0

2 felony abusers dead

CelesteD 24 points ago +24 / -0

good add!

anon11111111 6 points ago +6 / -0


Need way more defamation cases. About one thousand should do it.

chelthing 4 points ago +4 / -0

Rookie numbers!

Redwallow2020 45 points ago +45 / -0

ESPN got in on this too! Sue their asses!!

BasedOnWhat 31 points ago +31 / -0

Sports can't get out of politics fast enough! Well commies gonna commie. Gotta infiltrate every corner of our culture and spoil the western identity.

Parkyr413 15 points ago +15 / -0

They’re going to learn when the bottom lines bottom out.

WhatWouldTrumpDoMAGA 11 points ago +11 / -0


Lebron spoke with OBAMAs cucked asshole about how to proceed with his boycott!!! LeCCPron was told to play on. 0bummer knows the less on tv = more eyes on Trump = more redpills

Fuck ESPN Fuck LeCCPron Fuck 0boma While I'm at, Fuck Piglosi too. Feral swine in a skin suit.

Ladimir_Wewtin 23 points ago +23 / -0

Goofy has entered the chat

kastmaster2000 17 points ago +17 / -0


Trudict 14 points ago +14 / -0

CNN can fund the very defense of the kid he's calling a white supremacist.

lonelibertarian 81 points ago +81 / -0

Rittenhouse and Sandmann become new co-owners of CNN.

Joesf23 11 points ago +11 / -0


Lunadam 43 points ago +43 / -0

They won't learn because it is Soros and chicom money. If they had to put their own personal money on the line, that would be a better lesson

ORD_to_SFO 19 points ago +19 / -0

Well, then let's make CNN & the media at large, the puncture wound through which we bleed Soros out; while enriching our side. A lot of little holes will take down even the largest battleship!

Pau1F01ey 17 points ago +17 / -0

Death By A Thousand Cuts

Lunadam 7 points ago +7 / -0

Rock on!!

Fauxcahantos 14 points ago +14 / -0

$oros is protected by the Deep State. The reason these terrorist groups haven't been charged is because republicans in congress want Trump gone too. Remember how the generals didn't listen to him when he wanted to stop the violence? Deep State is allowing this to go on.

Lunadam 3 points ago +3 / -0


AlohaSnackbar 5 points ago +5 / -0

I agree, I'd sue the on air talent, claiming that CNN/others would never condone lying, so clearly the on air talent was doing it on their own.

More shallow pockets, but much much deeper impact.

Lunadam 1 point ago +1 / -0

Now we are cooking with Patriot fire!!!

thisguy883 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wouldnt say it didnt make a impact with Sandmann. During his speech at the RNC, CNN just let it run and went to the next speaker before they started saying shit again.

They were told to STFU when Sandmann was on. Even if they are getting Chicom money (source needed), they are still being hit hard with this crap and it will take another lawsuit where they will end up paying out big time before they stop, or at the very least, calm down.

digitalh3rmit 35 points ago +35 / -0

Old man CNN needs another (legal) beat down.


kag-2020- 11 points ago +11 / -0

They don't want to learn they want to attack their political opposition. It's not like it's their money.

TrumpVictorious 109 points ago +109 / -0

Yep. Zero evidence of it. Slandering a minor.

DonnieT 46 points ago +48 / -2

What’s the deal with the possession of a dangerous weapon charge? Are minors not allowed to have an AR in Wisconsin?

BasteSpuds 41 points ago +41 / -0

Yeah I'm confused by that too. He has a right to bear arms. He just can't buy one from an FFL yet. He can legally be given one by his parents. Wisconsin apparently open carry is legal. Unless it's some bs like "possession of a weapon during the commission of a crime" or something.

FireannDireach 12 points ago +13 / -1

Open carry in WI is legal over 18.

Some are claiming an exemption, but I've yet to see proof. Not claiming they're wrong, but I can't find any exemptions in WI gun laws that would cover this.

DrCowboyPresident 24 points ago +24 / -0

Wisconsin lost their authority to quote laws out of the books when they made the decision to stop enforcing law in certain areas.

Trudict 13 points ago +13 / -0 (edited)

Open carry in WI is legal over 18.

Some are claiming an exemption, but I've yet to see proof. Not claiming they're wrong, but I can't find any exemptions in WI gun laws that would cover this.

Here's a post I made on weekend gunnit where I THINK I cited the proper laws. Honestly though, it's pretty confusing.


For a small summary:

So basically, section 941 states that the only reason someone can't own a gun is if they're a felon. So nothing about minors there.

But then, in section 948, there's this bit about possession of a dangerous weapon by someone under 18.

However, (3) of that law has 3 exemptions.

3(a) says it does not apply if its being used for target practice with the supervision of an adult.

3(b) says it does not apply if that person is in the armed forces or NG.

3(c) says that it ONLY APPLIES is the person is in violation of section 941.28, 29.3043, and/or 29.593.

As a side note: I find the way this law is written weird. It's like they make this law and write it down, and then in the sub note say that it only applies in like 3 very specific circumstances. Wouldn't it make more sense to put those exceptions first? I think that's why so many people think it is illegal.

941.28 is talking about SBR's. The ar-15 he had was not an SBR so it doesn't apply.

29.304 is just further restrictions on people if they're under the age of 16, but nothing seems to apply if they're over the age of 16.

29.593 talks about the need for a hunting licence.

There's nothing saying he can't be in possession of it at the age of 17. If he was using it for hunting/target shooting, it appears that he'd need a licence and/or adult supervision (which even though he wasn't technically hunting, he did have adult supervision and I wouldn't be surprised if he had his hunting licence either).

FlimboFlongins 10 points ago +10 / -0

A demonstrated need to protect one's self from violent aggression is exception. There's legal conflict on this, and they'll go to Case Law over it. We don't know if that was Kyle's AR, or if it was handed to him by someone there.

operator1214 7 points ago +7 / -0

They'll argue this, but the defense can argue that there is no law (outside of open carry) where it specifically states he could not discharge a weapon in self-defense (which the case for is pretty much a slam dunk at this point) and thus demonstrated need.

July041776 6 points ago +6 / -0

Here you go! As long as it's not a sawed off, or a handgun, then it looks like he's fine


(1)  In this section, “dangerous weapon" means any firearm, loaded or unloaded...(etc)

(2)  (a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28

941.28 No person may sell or offer to sell, transport, purchase, possess or go armed with a short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle.

Flcentipede 28 points ago +32 / -4

It is the only legitimate charge they have.

kag-2020- 26 points ago +28 / -2 (edited)

Nope. It's an illegal law. The 2nd Amendment does not impose age restrictions. They've got nothing. Plus 948.60 only applies if you are breaking a hunting regulation. The staff running the DA's office must be full of diversity hires to manage to screw this up so badly.

exarch 31 points ago +31 / -0

jesus christ, imagine if this kid gets that law thrown out on constitutional grounds. They'll be statues of him

Flcentipede 2 points ago +3 / -1

That doesn't sound plausible. Age restrictions on carrying will be upheld by every court in the US. Unless he has a WI hunting license, I don't see how he is not in violation of the statute. Probably have to pay a fine or something.

1badcop 2 points ago +4 / -2

The feds don't have jurisdiction over minors, so they may have some difficulty with the weapons charge.

sfluke8 7 points ago +7 / -0

WI allows rifles and shotguns for 16-17 due to hunting - hunting isn't stated in the law but it's the purpose.

J-C-P 4 points ago +4 / -0

He was hunting?

JesusMaga 22 points ago +25 / -3

Not allowed to have dangerous weapons, which includes firearms, without being 18 or older, except there is an exception for rifles and shotguns.

Moose0528 34 points ago +34 / -0

Yep, only applies to pistols and short barreled rifles and shotguns. Retarded internet lawyers would have every jail in the State of Wisconsin full of 17 year olds on the first day of hunting season if their mis-reading of the statute was correct.

FireannDireach 8 points ago +8 / -0

Most states have exemptions for hunting - they can open carry if they have a current, valid hunting license.

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BlackCoyote 29 points ago +29 / -0

They're planning to prosecute him as an adult, but at the same time charge he's not old enough to possess the rifle.

christianknight 16 points ago +16 / -0

Good old government.

Ballind 6 points ago +6 / -0

Any criminal involved is liable to die if they try to fuck an American like that. Rightfully, obviously

pants4sasquatch 15 points ago +15 / -0

If he is trialed as an adult, shouldn't the open carry at 18+ be an exception for him then?

FlimboFlongins 4 points ago +4 / -0

With Valid Hunter's Safety Card. That's the Caveat.

RolandDelacroix 16 points ago +16 / -0

This is an add on charge used to force a plea deal. They are often found unconstitutional because no specific law was violated on its own, it's just an attempt to run up punishment for a different law.

Dirk_Diggler 26 points ago +26 / -0 (edited)

This. It's called "candy." They pad all these charges to make a plea deal look like a bargain, when in reality it's a railroading tactic to preserve conviction rates. Basically a baseball card stat for a lawyer. It doesn't have to be right or wrong, as long as they win. Justice is a farce and if you don't have the money to spread across the whole procedure, you are fucked.

hectorspector 9 points ago +9 / -0

Close family friend got tied up with the Feds. His offer was, go to court and take a chance on 30 years, or accept the plea deal of 3 months. 100% innocent, he took the deal, and the US Attorney got a scalp.

terrichris 8 points ago +8 / -0

Sad but true. Prosecutor stats are for the resume and bragging rights.

Nothing to do with truth justice.

Source: lived in Chicago most of my life

DonnieT 5 points ago +5 / -0

So all they really have on him is a potentially unconstitutional misdemeanor? Fight that shit.

boomerbutnotOKBoomer 4 points ago +4 / -0

Federal Law is age 16, Wi law is 18. it's my understanding that Federal law supersedes State Law. Then again, the Constitution states - SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, which supersedes all of it.

And don't forget this wonderful gem that i'm sure will be used a lot in the coming year - Deprivation of Rights under the Color of Law -- https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law

bottom line - we all have a God Given Right to Self Defense.

*Libtards are all triggered because one of the dudes got it in the head. "ooooh headshot is illegal!!" Yeah - no it isn't. Maybe in Call of Duty or GTA, but this is real life you wing nut! aaaaaarrrrrghghgh *

MediumWar 35 points ago +35 / -0

Sue the the estates of the deceased! Get that Gofundme money!

1776-or-1984 11 points ago +11 / -0

Gofundme polled the plug on Kyles donation page.

The_Litehaus_Abides 21 points ago +21 / -0

GoFundMe needs to be busted for money laundering, big league. They always close the accounts of good people while leaving open -- and raking in millions for -- pieces of shit like Blasey-Ford.

sgt_richard 5 points ago +5 / -0


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Anwedie 8 points ago +8 / -0

AG Barr needs to weigh in on charities and NGOs funneling money to terrorists. If it's legal as GoFundMe does, then Islamic charities should sue the Justice Department for impartial prosecution.

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675-EVIL 0 points ago +1 / -1

Don't give the muzzies any ideas.

CelesteD 4 points ago +4 / -0

He means the ones set up for the criminals, which I believe are still active.

MediumWar 3 points ago +3 / -0

It didn't pull the plug on any of his attackers though! He can sue their estates and gain rewards in civil court.

Spikeball 3 points ago +3 / -0

They've all shown which side they're on - soon time to follow Kyle's lead and show them why they chose poorly

ignorant_slob 6 points ago +6 / -0

Definitely need to sue and get an injunction so that money doesn’t go anywhere. Hard to recover funds from pimps and drug dealers that this kind of windfall inevitably gets blown on.

SDhiker 6 points ago +7 / -1

Nah, their "estates" likely consist of a box kiddy porn

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Sodium_miner 3 points ago +3 / -0

I like that idea. 👍🏼

Persistence 1 point ago +1 / -0

Tell them to fucking post a bitcoin address fuck us conservatives are pathetic

booblitchutz 17 points ago +17 / -0

And Ayannah Pressley

Fuck_commies_2024 14 points ago +14 / -0

That bald headed cunt!

StillplayenSometimes 5 points ago +5 / -0

The one at slate "The Conservative Defense of Kyle Rittenhouse Is Dangerous Nonsense" gets me the angriest

LastNameNull 4 points ago +4 / -0

You are not kidding. Just looked it up and read that rage inducing pile of journalistic vomit. I knew it was going to be a tough read after the second sentence: "Videos of the event tell us an incomplete story of what, exactly, happened that night." The video of "shoot me nigga" dude being the aggressor not clear enough? Actively retreating from the lynch mob yelling "get his ass" makes him a threat? The author then wants you to suspend your belief in the reality you have just witnessed and buy into the notion the mob were the "diverse group of good guys". And then does an epic mental gymnastic dismount by making it a white vs black issue. Truly rage inducing.

MediumWar 28 points ago +28 / -0

Sue the the estates of the deceased! Get that Gofundme money!

cjcivicx 8 points ago +9 / -1

Agreed. They were killed because they were trying to kill him, not tickle him...

Bramble 6 points ago +6 / -0

They will succeed in transferring millions of $ from the wealthy to a Hispanic minority once all the lawsuits are settled after he is found not guilty on all accounts.

ekos640 3 points ago +3 / -0

If they don't fail and actually convict the kid, then it's on us. Do whatever it takes.

Choomguy 2 points ago +2 / -0

You know, im ready to pursue this career path.

IncredibleMrE1 115 points ago +115 / -0

It's the standard tactic prosecutors use to get convictions. They massively overcharge their targets - who often are completely innocent - to get them to plead to a lesser crime (most people don't have the resources to fight the government, so they have no choice but to take an L). The target still ends up a criminal and forever labelled as such, prosecutors another scalp for their belt.

And when the target has enough backbone to fight back, they make his life a living hell (example: General Flynn).

PritzkersFatAss76 81 points ago +81 / -0

And it seems like they were moving VERY fast with Kenosha Kyle to try and get him to quickly plea with his public defender, before Pro 2A groups or lawyers got involved.

I'm glad the judge postponed his extradition.

IncredibleMrE1 66 points ago +66 / -0

Correct. The public defender would have just agreed to a plea, that's what the prosecution was banking on. Now that Kyle has time to connect with Lin Wood, GOA, and others, the prosecution is toast.

FlimboFlongins 48 points ago +48 / -0

Prosecutor is completely unprepared for what's about to come down on him.

Balance_In_Life 16 points ago +16 / -0

I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to admend the charges or just drop them competely and take the L before he gets disbarred.

RedPaladin 11 points ago +11 / -0

That's the problem with DAs honestly. They can fight dirty when winning and just bail the moment they start losing.

There needs to be repercussions for dropping all charges.

Granite_MAGA 5 points ago +5 / -0

That would be complex to figure out because then DA's will just keep plugging away for years. You cannot afford to stand up to them like that. Simple defense of a single felony is five figures for a decent attorney, not even splurging. Usually double or triple if one felony goes to a jury trial.

There has to be a way to punish these evil prosecutors but not by taking away our right to have unjust charges dropped.

Warskullx 3 points ago +3 / -0

He connected with Lin Wood? A reckoning is coming.

readyIgnite 58 points ago +58 / -0 (edited)

Additional footage is revealing Kyle as the victim at every stage of the interaction.

Altercation at the gas station not involving him shows the rioters agitate armed locals, while no fewer than 4 in their crowd have handguns at the ready. That looks like a pattern trying to instigate a confrontation where people would be hurt.

First shooting involving Kyle, the first shot fired is a third party on the sidewalk firing a handgun. That individual is linked back to the gas station footage where he can be seen brandishing a handgun while pushing the flaming garbage bin down the block.

Second shooting involving Kyle, you hear multiple gunshots in the background. That these were other rioters discharging weapons to escalate the situation, agitate Kyle into firing randomly into the crowd, looks like it fits the behaviors of the gas station confrontation.

Comes off that there was an organized effort to try and orchestrate a 'holy martyr' situation for media purpose. Kyle fell into the trap. Then showed unbelievable restraint under pressure. They picked the wrong mark.

You'll note antifa tactics purposefully blunt their attacks. Literal use of blunt weapons giving the appearance of a weak and pathetic force. This is intentional to minimize arrests and investigation until they are large enough to use open violence. The Kenosha scenario could fit into that. Involve and fire small arms, not aimed at any individual. Try to ensnare someone into over-reaching with lethal return fire so they can continue to demonize those who protect themselves as dangerous militia. Planned.

You may have noticed use of fireworks at antifa riots. This trains your 'protest group' agitators use as cover not to react to loud noises. So eventually when you provoke an event with firearms the protest group stands there ignoring large booms increasing the odds one takes a bullet becoming your Holy Martyr flashpoint to escalate violence. The riot organizers would be trying to create an innocent victim to rally around. This tactic is used in all Color Revolutions.

Riot organizers could put that together simply by handing out handguns to felons at the event and ask them to shoot into the air to cause disruption. It looks important to arrest everyone with a handgun on film at the event to figure out what transpired.

Particularly the guy missing an elbow. Early in the footage he's seen on film watching Kyle provide EMT medical support to protesters. He sticks around the business for a while recording cell footage of Kyle's group before meeting up with him again later. Was a specific target selected for agitators to try separate from the rest of their group?

Now if they railroad Kyle, then it's all over quickly and media can have a ball.

Drag it out and the rest of the footage comes into play. Investigation needs to round up the rest of the shooters documented in footage of the event and ascertain whether they were responsible for targeting Kyle here.

aconcernedtroll 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is very informative, got links? I'm trying to track all the video links for redpilling purposes. Someone needs to put this all together.

readyIgnite 6 points ago +6 / -0



For a quick overview of Color Revolutions review of documentaries are probably useful for broad brushstrokes. Then can start delving into the slow boring slog through reporting history on them.

Ukraine's Color Revolution is useful because we have conflicting viewpoint documentaries on what happened there. Ukraine On Fire, and I think there's a second one from a pro-US point of view.

Specifically the Color Revolution model relies heavily on embedded viral media sources crafting a narrative. People on the ground conditioning protest groups for greater agitation. And hijacking whatever is going on there in a larger conflict through martyr flashpoints. One element missing is a contested election (womp womp).

July041776 6 points ago +6 / -0

I believe Andy Ngo has most of the footage on his twitter feed (https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo)

EDIT: Andy posted this yesterday I think https://thepostmillennial.com/kenosha-shooting-events-tracked-by-videos-taken-at-riot

Granite_MAGA 6 points ago +6 / -0

Kyle never fired indiscriminately into the crowd. His second two shots were insane reflexes....he was milliseconds away from being executed by the third guy.

TankerD18 7 points ago +7 / -0 (edited)

I was a combat arms soldier for eight years and I'm a combat vet, I don't even know if I could pull off restraint like that. It's unbelievable how well the Kid kept his shit together despite (I'm assuming) not having any formal training.

ignorant_slob 9 points ago +9 / -0

Definitely going to be career ending for any idiots who decide to line up on the other side.

free-money- 36 points ago +36 / -0

Well, hopefully with the support of this awesome lawyer and with being relatively obligation-free, Kyle has the ability to fight this. It could be his full-time job for quite a while.

I imagine the goal is to drag it out until October and then acquit around the same time the other eViL wHiTe RaCiStS are acquitted to maximize the chance of mass riots right before the election.

Arriveria 13 points ago +13 / -0

good I love these riots before election, it will cause trump to win

Alexius_von_Meinong 7 points ago +7 / -0

The riots will get worse after the election. Measures should be put in place that would really clamp down on violence post-election or it's going to be a shitshow. The opposition has already demonstrated that they would rather burn it down than allow Trump to have a second term.

Arriveria 10 points ago +10 / -0

after the election trump wont have to worry about second term so he can end then quickly

Alexius_von_Meinong 5 points ago +6 / -1

It only happens with the cooperation of local authorities, and a lot of local authorities would rather see their city burn than have a good economy under Trump. Yes, this is psychotic, but it needs to be recognized, and preparations need to be made, like, for example, stationing DHS in Democrat cities, taking key ringleaders off the streets. liaison with local law enforcement, etc.

FormerGraveheart 2 points ago +3 / -1

Those ringleaders are the mayors, DAs, governors, police chiefs in some places. Those are who need to be taken off the streets.

ianpatrick1966 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fuck the local authorities. Once the election is over he can declare martial law and just steamroll the city halls. Install new leadership in the city, and wham bam thank you maam.

TankerD18 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah I think part of the reason why his response has mostly been along the lines of: 'Fuck you Dem governor/mayor, if you aren't begging for Federal aid I'm not sending it in.' is because he doesn't want to appear heavy handed.

I think the gloves are gonna come off after he handily brings home another 4 years.

CovefeefevoC 2 points ago +2 / -0

Second term Trump wont' give a fuck. Either the riots end election night or they will be forced to end by inauguration day.

DisgustedByMisleadia 4 points ago +4 / -0 (edited)

There's no way they can get through the legal process before the election, unless they drop all the charges.

This will likely last until sometime next year, and that may be optimistic.

Long_time_lurker 17 points ago +17 / -0

The delay is specifically so that he can hire a lawyer of his choosing.

Given that we know that some very skilled lawyers are willing to work for him pro bono, this is a very GOOD thing in general for preserving his rights.

DisgustedByMisleadia 16 points ago +16 / -0

Lin Wood has already lined up John Pierce and local legal talent for Kyle.

Former_RM2 5 points ago +5 / -0

I paid 5g to a local attorney to eventually get my charges of two counts of assault with a firearm dismissed after almost a year. The last deal the DA offered was anger management classes and charges would be dropped. I, through my attorney, told the DA to fuck off and he dismissed the charges three days before the trial was to begin.

It can cost a lot of money, but that can be mitigated if you familiarize yourself with the law. After they pushed back various hearings and the trial date four times, I blew it and told my attorney that I wanted to exercise my right to a speedy trial. My lawyer told me that we could absolutely go in to the court room and do that and a trial would be set within days...but we weren't ready, which really means that he wasn't ready. If I had done that early on in the process and we would have prepared for a quick trial, it could have saved me a few thousand.

Just know this, on small crimes like that, the DA doesn't want to go to court..especially if the case is weak like mine. He doesn't want to spend the time preparing for it and doesn't want to spend the time in the court room. They especially don't want to spend the time on a case that they don't have a near 100% chance of a conviction.

My advice, if they have a weak case and it's not a violent felony, is to pressure them. Make them sweat. They'll do the most expeditious thing, which is to either drop the case, or offer a really sweet deal.

675-EVIL 1 point ago +2 / -1

Interesting. So what are the best ways to pressure them? You mentioned a speedy trial. Can't be to your disadvantage though? Any other ways you can pressure them?

Former_RM2 11 points ago +11 / -0

I want to make a few things clear.

DAs are elected. Incumbents like to point to their conviction rate a as reason to re-elect them. These conviction rates are very high. My attorney told me that my county DA has a 99% conviction rate. It was at that point that I knew I would win. They don't take cases to trial unless they have a slam dunk case and mine was anything but.

First things first. Don't talk to the police. Just don't do it. Politely assert your right to remain silent and your right to have an attorney present during questioning. What appears like the most innocent of questions can be designed to get you to admit to something you think is innocent, but could be used against you in court. The cops are professionals at getting people to say incriminating things...you are not in their league. That's what a lawyer is for.

I did not talk to the police at all, even when they brought the LT to the scene to try and play bad cop/good cop. I asserted my right to remain silent and I asked for a lawyer. It helps if you have a law firm's card in your wallet or purse that you can show them. I did not, but my polite refusal to answer questions made the questioning stop fairly quickly. They arrested me and took me to jail where I bonded out in about 4 hours. The process was fairly painless even if it was quite inconvenient.

Second, be sure to get a good trial lawyer. Someone who isn't afraid of a court room and someone who isn't going to pressure you to take a plea deal. My lawyer never pressured me and was actually kind of eager to go to court. He thought we had a good chance at an acquittal. If you doubt your lawyer's advice, you can get a second opinion from another lawyer. This will cost a little bit of money and a little bit of time, but it might be worth it. Don't change lawyers unless it's necessary, that will slow the process down significantly.

Explain to your lawyer that you want this process to go quickly. Tell him that you might wish to exercise your right to a speedy trial. Tell him this early and tell him that you want to prepare for a trial early, even if the odds are that you wont go to trial.

If the DA starts to fuck around with delays and postponements, then exercise your rights and have your attorney request a speedy trial from the judge or at least threaten the DA with a speedy trial request. This will put tremendous pressure on the DA as he will have a full docket that now has to be shuffled around and passed off to others in the DA's office. They don't like this at all and if your charge is weak and there's a decent chance of you winning, this may be just the push the DA needs to dismiss it or offer a really good plea deal.

Be aware of plea deals. A plea deal is the same as a conviction at a trial. You can lose certain rights depending on what deal you take. You will also have a criminal record and all the inconveniences that comes with it. If the witnesses are trash and the evidence is shoddy and your lawyer thinks you can win it, then don't take any plea deal. Push for a trial as soon as possible. Make them sweat.

Pay attention to the preliminary hearing. Your lawyer will be able to ask your accusers questions. This is an excellent time to gauge how good he is in a court room.

You will not have to speak at any time in this entire legal process, not even at trial. You should never have to speak to the DA, or any other court officer except, maybe, the judge. Follow your lawyer's advice on this. If he thinks it's best that you take the stand and testify, then you should probably do it...but you don't have to if you don't want to.

I would also like to say, if they have great evidence and it's likely that you will be convicted, then you better plea, because if you go to trial the punishment will be much worse than if you had just plead guilty to some lesser crime. Judges and DA's hate it when lower felony offenses go to trial as they think it's a waste of the court's time.

There are two trial types. Trial by Jury and a trial where the judge can decide on the guilt (bench trial). I had the option to request either, I chose a jury trial, based off of the advice of my lawyer, but it wasn't a black and white decision. Your lawyer may advise a different path. One thing to know; in bench trials, there is no rout of appealing the decision. Once the judge decides, that's it, you can't appeal...at least in my state.

If you are being accused of a violent crime or some other big time felony, then you will almost assuredly get much different treatment from the DA and Judge than what I've laid out here. This essay is only intended for lower class felonies and misdemeanors.

It's important to look at this whole thing as a fight between you and the DA, not a fight between you and your accusers. This is a bloody, knock down, drag out fight against the grinding gears of the judicial system. You can make things right against your accusers after the trial in civil court if you think you have a case. In the mean time, forget about them. Forget about the police that arrested you. Forget about all that stuff. This is between you and the DA. The rest of that can be ironed out later, after you've walked free.

Get your mindset right. Don't be afraid of going to jail unless they have really good evidence. They play off this fear and that's how they get hundreds of thousands of people every year to plea to stuff they didn't do. Fuck them . That should be your mindset. You're going to beat that punk ass DA and show him who's the boss. Don't forget it.

NYforTrump 4 points ago +4 / -0

That all seems like fantastic advice I hope I'll never have to use.

Granite_MAGA 4 points ago +4 / -0

DA's are not elected in my state. Nobody knows their names or the insane abuses they've handed down on lawful gun owners. There's no way to punish them.

Former_RM2 1 point ago +1 / -0

There are only four states that don't elect them. Those four are appointed by the Governor. The governor doesn't want a DA working for him that has a low conviction rate. It looks bad at election time..

TankerD18 2 points ago +2 / -0

Great write up.

675-EVIL 1 point ago +2 / -1

This is super helpful. Thank you so much for this. I hope I will never need this advice, but if I do, I will think of what you wrote here. Will save save it to my computer.

blackdudeinresidence 4 points ago +4 / -0

This. Most people don’t have the resources to fight. If you do have those resources, you can get out of most things because a good team of attorneys will dig into everything to help clear you.

I don’t handle criminal law, but I’ve worked on criminal cases where defendants had to money to pay for the man-hours to pull out obscure cases, develop novel legal theories, and pinpoint all sorts of procedural missteps.

spec17 54 points ago +54 / -0


free-money- 31 points ago +33 / -2

According to this random article that I haven't fact-checked and could be completely wrong about, that appears not to be the case:

The good news here is that the local District Attorney, Michael Gravely, has been with the DA’s office since 1989, and there is no evidence that he is in any way funded by George Soros front groups.

But it sure is Soros-like behavior.

TrumpVictorious 68 points ago +68 / -0

He hasn’t been primaried by Soros because he is already an ally.

PritzkersFatAss76 28 points ago +28 / -0

This guy gets it.

free-money- 15 points ago +16 / -1

The dumbest commie officials (and therefore the most useful to the overlords) are the ones who actually believe the propaganda and don't even have to be bought or blackmailed.

maga4all39 1 point ago +1 / -0

Submit or be destroyed. That's how they do it.

Sturm451 58 points ago +58 / -0

That DA is prosecuting a young woman for killing her pedophile trafficker. That’s all the evidence I need to know Soros owns him.

PritzkersFatAss76 19 points ago +19 / -0

That's crazy.

Boxcar_Overkill 13 points ago +14 / -1

And in fact, the push back he got from that may have something to do with why he is charging here.

Check this out: https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/nlg/open-letter-to-kenosha-da-michael-graveley-freechrystul/

Because of that case, he can't really NOT charge a white male, even if self-defense is involved. He couldn't explain that to his Democratic base.

Sturm451 6 points ago +6 / -0

To me, it’s just consistently corrupt and reprehensible behavior. No way she should have been charged and no way Kyle should have been charged either.

maga4all39 2 points ago +2 / -0

He's not there for a career. He's there to follow the laws/constitution and do the right thing. Politics should have ZERO influence on his behavior.

If he's willing to throw a young kid under the bus so he can pad his resume, then he doesn't deserve to be in any public office. Period. Much less a DA.

Chicongocracker 11 points ago +11 / -0

Someone commented earlier that this guy has kept that girl locked up for two years delaying her trial, if that’s the case he’s a real piece of work.

Sackanutz 2 points ago +2 / -0

They may have charged him to start the extradition process.

APlaceInTheSun 48 points ago +48 / -0

Look how fast the corrupt wheels of justice can turn.

Shitposter69 14 points ago +14 / -0

They're doing a fat smokey burnout

Chicongocracker 8 points ago +8 / -0

Right, now can we get Hilary to show up to court? Oh wait wrong team

Mrwrn2010 4 points ago +4 / -0

Chuckles in Durham

JuanMiller2024 46 points ago +46 / -0

Just donated last night.

This is a bellwether case for self defense and especially so during civil unrest.

This can't be allowed to be lost. This kid can't be allowed to be sacrificed.

As Kyle goes, so go the rest of us. Perhaps sooner than later.

BlackCoyote 17 points ago +17 / -0

I was thinking about this as well. If Kyle gets convicted the country is toast. The battle lines will be drawn and people will just start moving to congregate on their side.

getkek 3 points ago +3 / -0

i.e all us productive people that work and pay taxes.The welfare state will starve itself, and welfare seeking migrants will attempt to scale our walls to yet take from us again, but they shall find no reprieve.

For at the top of the wall stands Kyle and on the other side stand 10,000 more.

SadPangolin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just donated last night.

Yeah, I sent in my donation a few minutes ago.

Jackhererer 417 points ago +417 / -0

"A friend of Gaige’s said that his only regret was not being able to kill 17-year-old Rittenhouse." Thank you for giving Kyle all the evidence he needs to prove self defense.

Unobtainium 197 points ago +197 / -0

Definitely in Kyle’s favor that these people are beyond stupid.

Snake 53 points ago +54 / -1

The only regret Kyle will ever have is not being able to kill that murderous violent pedophile ever again.

DonttrustChina 59 points ago +63 / -4

Let's not pretend a kid who had to kill two people and maim another to save himself isn't gonna need serious therapy. Like sure, he's a hero and he should be told that...but we also shouldn't act like this should be a fond, fun memory for him, it was probably the worst moment of his life, and one he'll spend a long time coming to terms with.

undercoverincali 18 points ago +20 / -2

You know, there are few people who join the military because they want to be able to fight and kill.

Not everyone who kills is mentally scarred or traumatized.

Wsemenske 14 points ago +15 / -1

PTSD tends to correlate with the feeling of being out of control. So SEALS and other special ops that have to kill people might not become scarred. But the kid who joined the military and is surprised attacted or runs into an IED is much more likely to have issues. Unfortunately, as well as the kid handled himself here, it's closer to the second scenario, especially since he's also having to defend his life again in court.

undercoverincali 8 points ago +8 / -0

Good response, thanks for the input.

HunterBidenCokeStraw 4 points ago +4 / -0

And for that I am forever grateful those guys exist for us. The ones chomping to go outside the wire.

That being said we must do our part to protect our country.

DonttrustChina 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's not most people though. And even for those who do want that kind of life, the military trains the shit out of them not just physically but psychologically to get them ready for it, and many STILL come back with PTSD.

havax 8 points ago +8 / -0

Exactly. Screw those asshole pedophiles and domestic abuse violators for violently throwing themselves at his self-defense rounds.

Litterboxer1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow I'm glad someone finally said this.

Snake 1 point ago +1 / -0

9:47 for reference https://youtu.be/2SSVIg4Noqc

I just modified the joke to fit.

FuckRioters 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, for sure, he was 17 years old, and being chased by an angry violent mob twice, fighting for his life, and barely escaped alive.

Yes, twice, there was a mob chasing him at the time of the first shooting, not just the guy with a shirt on his head.

AlphaNathan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well there are a lot more.

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Mother_of_gains 48 points ago +48 / -0

We need jerseys with this kid's name on it

Indelible_Hippo 26 points ago +26 / -0

Commies: 0

America: 2

Rage 18 points ago +18 / -0

Kinda 2.5

Konsaki 20 points ago +20 / -0

They don't count if they're still breathing.

AlphaNathan 5 points ago +5 / -0

It wasn't me! It was the one-armed man!

Mrwrn2010 3 points ago +3 / -0

Kek, nice.

KungFlu19 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah the commies are already up to around 30 or so, tragically

AlphaNathan 1 point ago +1 / -0

hahahaha this is a great idea

_-Th0r-_ 30 points ago +37 / -7

Yeah, total proof.

But you know something, when one-arm drew his glock, if Kyle had shot him in the chest he might have still been able to shoot Kyle.

Which makes me believe he shot the arm on purpose to disable.

Which makes me further roll my eyes at the comments suggesting he didn’t know how to handle the weapon well, because he looked plenty well trained.

Rage 31 points ago +31 / -0

No way it was on purpose unless he’s got matrix bullet time reflexes. Watch the video.

WaxMyBallsBernie 26 points ago +26 / -0

Luck favors the prepared

Maybe we'll never know, maybe Kek guided his muzzle that night

Rage 20 points ago +20 / -0

It does seem like divine providence how it all went down. Kyle definitely had a guardian angel that night, and thank god he did.

EvanOnTheFly 13 points ago +13 / -0

Shit ain't coincidental. God watched over him and sent Guardian Angel Haiyel, his Angel of Weaponry.

Rage 12 points ago +12 / -0

To me, the most divine part of it was how, of the multiple assailants that attacked Kyle, the one that didn't get shot was the black guy. Kind of hard for the MSM to sell a white supremacist motive when the only people who were shot were white.

The ninja kicking black dude dodged a bullet, and as a result, so too did Kyle in a manner of speaking.

_-Th0r-_ 8 points ago +9 / -1

I shoot IDPA, where we have some really close range targets in courses that are blazing fast. Like 6 targets, 3 rounds min each with min 1 mag reload completing under 16 seconds (for me, though that isn’t super fast).

In those close ranges I basically stop aiming with sights and point shoot. Entirely focus my eyes where I want to hit and my body just does the rest, cave man mode activated and just go go go.

From that I can believe he might not have been like “remember your arm-shooting training,” but the kid showed he processed information well, and his eyes clearly tracked the arm draw.

He assessed non-threat (hands were up for false surrender) and didn’t shoot.

When he saw weapon draw he assessed threat and shot.

If bullets go where your eyes are, it’s very believable, particularly at near point blank range.

Rage 5 points ago +5 / -0

I thank you for your insight, I'm not combat shooting trained, so I am just speaking from what I saw in the video.

I think you might be on to something in that, he saw the gun coming up and his rifle probably came up to reflexively aim at what his eyes were looking at, and the rest is history.

I just can't believe he consciously had the wherewithal to aim center mass, see the gun, and then switch targets to try to disable his shooting hand instead. Whatever happened was reflexive, not contemplated.

_-Th0r-_ 6 points ago +6 / -0

I just went to find a replay to do frame by frame.

One-arm did his fake surrender to get close, and Kyle lowered his weapon.

Gage walked closer and was essentially on a trajectory where his body would sweep the barrel out of the way.

So while bladed and forcing Kyle’s barrel right to left, he brought his arm back around and basically right in line with the barrel.

Would have been harder to shoot center mass. He possibly just shot, but I still say his no-threat to threat transition was spot on, and to further the “trained” hypothesis, watch him after he shot Gage.

His head immediately goes back on a swivel to start assessing all the other people swarming around him.

A lot of carbine courses drill that in. You have your one target in front of you, and you train to engage and once done engaging go through the seemingly ridiculous “check right, check left” sweep anyways just to make this automatic.

Had there been another threat but Kyle focused solely on the man screaming “Medic” he could have been killed by tunnel vision.

Rage 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, it was rather amazing to see. He fell on the road as a kid, but when he stood up again, he was a man.

I'm not saying killing people makes you a man, just that he was a totally different person, his demeanor, posture, everything, it was all changed in an instant. I wish him the best and hope he doesn't suffer PTSD, etc from this.

_-Th0r-_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

The difficult thing will be that half the country has judged him a guilty white supremacist.

He’ll be acquitted, because he did the right thing and didn’t do anything wrong, but he’ll have to deal with the social stigma the rest of his life.

Granite_MAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

I fully believe this.

Watch the video of him trying to surrender to police. He didn't have the posture of a blubbering person falling apart. He was a different person.

lanre 2 points ago +2 / -0

You can see him switch his point of aim in the video. I'm guessing it was instinct and training.

EpicPede 12 points ago +15 / -3

0% chance he aimed for the arm on purpose tbh

RockyMin 9 points ago +9 / -0

All you have to do is look at all the pics of him with the gun. He is completely disciplined with it. Finger off the trigger, pointing it down or in the air. It's easy to see he was well trained in handling the weapon.

RackOps 8 points ago +8 / -0

No knock on Kyle at all, but if he was good enough to pick his shots on the fly he wouldn't have missed his shots on the dude that kicked him in the head just prior to Tony Hawk's arrival.

Elcidcampeador 8 points ago +8 / -0

I am glad that I am not the only one who got that. Kyle would have been killed or seriously injured. Kyle has the skills and knowledge of an experienced rifleman.

covidcrisis 21 points ago +21 / -0

Tbh his self defense in the first shooting is the important one. The only missing information regarding his defense is what led to him being chased down by Napoleon Blownapart in the first place. Based on Blownapart's behavior earlier in the "shoot me n*gga" video and his general demeanor, I think it's safe to say Blownapart was the aggressor in probably every encounter he had in life.

StrangeCovfefe 9 points ago +9 / -0

Napoleon BLOWNAPART holy shit this is amazing

MLGS 4 points ago +4 / -0

A Daily Caller reporter told the cops that Napoleon tried to grab the kid's gun, and everybody can see the video where he was chasing the kid before that. The only reason anybody could possibly have to argue that it wasn't self defense is a really insane dedication to team jersey politics.

covidcrisis 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, whatever incited the incident is crucial from a legal perspective. We all know it is self defense from a moral perspective. But there are some legal caveats to self defense. For example (not what I think happened), if Kyle threatened Napoleon and Napoleon started chasing him, it would be very hard to claim self defense. However, like I said, Napoleon was threatening people earlier. And it's pretty fucking clear as day that Kyle was not there to start a mass shooting. So I'll give Kyle the benefit of the doubt.

MLGS 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that the pedophile with a history of attacking guards in jail, was part of a mob bent on destroying as much property, is on video yelling "SHOOT ME NIGGA", and charged at someone with a gun was the guy who made the first move. You'd have to intentionally stack a jury with 12 members of Rose City Antifa to rule against shooting that guy.

Granite_MAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

His rap sheet of like a hundred infractions in prison during his rape sentence say that he fights people all the time.

He lived by his fists and he died seeing mist.

ParticleCannon 13 points ago +13 / -0

Did Mr. Friendo have anything to say about trying to claim Medical Neutrality while using a gun to threaten a minor?

Jackhererer 5 points ago +5 / -0

According to article provided by OP wasnt mentioned.

UpTrump 233 points ago +233 / -0

Ruining a 17 year old child's life for political points

yooz 88 points ago +88 / -0

Left wing media really likes to go after those who they think are defenseless

see: Sandmann

ignorant_slob 34 points ago +34 / -0

We need a remix of Kyle getting stomped and bludgeoned with a skateboard set to Kamala’s recent quote about this violence not stopping.

Dragonmoon333 17 points ago +17 / -0

Dude! Time to sharpen and learn new skills! I believe in you!

Only YOU can make New Dank Memes

GrimCovfefe 8 points ago +8 / -0

You got this!

StillplayenSometimes 8 points ago +8 / -0

He'll always have my support brother. I'm sure there's successful people here who will help him out if he ever needs an opportunity

KRosen333 6 points ago +6 / -0

His life is not ruined. He will rise from this.

ScionOfMaga 4 points ago +4 / -0

They will never show us mercy

Gorilla_Channel 3 points ago +3 / -0

His life will never be the same, but he'll be able to cry into piles of CNN's money soon enough. Plus, he'll be neck-deep in pussy for the rest of his life.

IncredibleMrE1 161 points ago +161 / -0

Excellent news.

This is why the prosecutors were so quick to massively overcharge him. They were trying to scare him into pleading out early. The fact that he is lawyering up and has a month to prepare means they failed.

Grab your popcorn.

Vir4030 79 points ago +79 / -0

That's what they do. They don't want to actually see a trial, because then they would actually have to prove someone's guilt. People scare very easily when their freedom is on the line and they have no money or allies.

Thankfully, Kyle has the allies who don't want money from him. He won't back down. Wisconsin wants to put him in jail for 60 years.

PeytonManThing 15 points ago +15 / -0

It’s true they don’t want to go to trial, but it’s because America has too many criminals. If everyone went to trial - hell if 10% of cases went to trial - the court system would be overwhelmed. Prosecutors and courts don’t have the resources for it. Trials are incredibly expensive

FLYWHEEL_PRIME 6 points ago +8 / -2

No, the system just isn't run efficiently

PeytonManThing 6 points ago +6 / -0

We do have too many criminals. Our crime rate is MUCH higher than in other developed nations, and that’s despite locking up so many criminals for long periods of time to prevent them from committing more crime

Granite_MAGA 2 points ago +3 / -1

The War on Drugs and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

PeytonManThing -1 points ago +1 / -2

Completely false. Please look up what opium did to China in the 19th century. The war on drugs is absolutely good

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MAGAPlenty 4 points ago +4 / -0

L Lin Wood is good people

Crockett 23 points ago +23 / -0

It's curious. You don't want to overcharge someone if you actually want them to face justice, because that raises the bar for conviction. Charge him with something lesser you can definitely nail him on, and he goes away for sure. But charge him with something over the top, jury might not go for it and he gets off scott free.

So why did they go all out on him? Two possibilities I can think of: One, trying to scare him into something stupid. Two, pure virtue signalling / ideological possession. He's bad so they can't just put him in jail, he must be a murderer and white supremacist. Anything short of that would just prove the prosecutors didn't believe in the cause strongly enough.

In the former case, it looks like that didn't work, which is good. In the latter case, they're just dumb, which is also good.

JimmyJam 14 points ago +14 / -0

the way WI homicide laws are written the top charges incorporate the lower charges, so if the burden is met for the lower charge, the lower charge applies.

AtTheInauguration 12 points ago +12 / -0

That's some un-American bullshit.

spezisapedo 1 point ago +1 / -0

that is some insane B.S. You could just charge everyone with 1st degree and just see what sticks. That cant be constitutional

PeytonManThing 4 points ago +4 / -0

You can often charge for lesser includeds as well. Juries don’t have to convict on the highest charge

FuckRioters 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm glad we were able to help get him real representation before he got railroaded by a public defendant. I only hope he didn't say anything that could go against him in the mean-time.

Fireark 135 points ago +135 / -0

One piece of good news out of this insanity.

mathman 111 points ago +111 / -0

Looks like his lawyers are preparing evidence.

By the way, "state lines" applies to rioting, not to self-defense.

Sick_n_tired 40 points ago +40 / -0

And Lin Wood tweeted that he didn’t travel with the gun.

PraiseBeToScience -8 points ago +6 / -14

That makes no sense to me but okay.

TrumpsFavorite 22 points ago +22 / -0

Picked it up when he got there

PraiseBeToScience 6 points ago +11 / -5

Like, from the ground? Whose was it?

donald_zuramp 25 points ago +25 / -0

People under the impression that Kyle is just some drooling militia redneck kid have got it completely backward.

Just watch the video of him. This guy is more professional that probably half of the cops out there. But beyond that he was a junior cadet involved in law enforcement and trained with guns since childhood.

This is the mistake libshits make time and time again: they drink their own Kool Aid. They tell each other every day that conservatives are STOOPID because it makes them feel smug and self satisfied. Then they underestimate us and repeatedly get humiliated.

They haven't figured out yet that a guy like Kyle is not a moron, he knows exactly what the fuck he was doing, every contingency covered, he's not the type to make some stupid amateur mistake that would land his ass in prison.

Contrast this with that Gaige retard who was pursuing Kyle with the intent to kill him. With a firearm that almost certainly did not belong to him (legally) and he was not legally allowed to have. While, you know, rioting and causing chaos in the middle of the night. An absolute piece of shit from every angle.

There is absolutely zero self defense argument from him and we sure as fuck BETTER see some charges against him.

Rock_Flag_Eagle 6 points ago +6 / -0

That fucking idiot Gaige was stupid enough to have his friend publicly quote him as regretting not being able to kill Kyle. Yes, thank you, attempted murderer, for handing the guy who blew your arm off a piece of exculpatory evidence on a silver platter.

PraiseBeToScience 18 points ago +18 / -0

Also, how fucking dope would it be to be the first lawyer to sue everyone on Twitter making shit up? LIke a reverse class action where he's suing the entire class.

PraiseBeToScience 8 points ago +8 / -0

I'm surprised he didn't just ask "where did you idiots get the idea that guns cannot cross state lines"?

Seriously, look at that, it's everywhere now. Leftist disinformation and ignorance spreads like a fucking fungal infection. Some know-nothing retard thought it "felt" like a real law, so he said he spoke like it was a real law, and now they all thing it's a real law.

FormerGraveheart 5 points ago +6 / -1

Probably from Anaconda.

mugwump 6 points ago +6 / -0

Exactly, Prove.

nanowerx 5 points ago +5 / -0

A friend of his that lives there

RedditIs4Retards 8 points ago +9 / -1

"it's a rifle, which means the exception applies for rifles (and shotguns) which allows people age 16 and 17 to possess them. < fact"

Fucking great news if true!

Kyle was not rioting, not in illegal possession of the rifle, actually helped BLM lolol, and shot 100% in self defense.

Ben45 3 points ago +3 / -0

A friend’s, probably one of the other militiamen

EpsteinWasKillaried 2 points ago +2 / -0

A friend of his that lives in WI.

TrumpsFavorite 1 point ago +1 / -0

Local militia? Maybe he bought it in Wisconsin? Who knows. Ask his defense attorneys.

JimmyJam 9 points ago +9 / -0

he lives with his mom in an apartment - i assume its possible his father or another family member has a residence in WI over the state line where the gun was housed.

ravonaf 2 points ago +2 / -0

Remember. The Twin cities have a state line drawn right down the middle. Half the people who live there probably cross that line going to work every day. Kyle was part of a Twin Cities militia call that was put out for assistance. He wasn't there alone. He also lives only about 20 minutes from where the incident happened. It's not like he travelled all the way across the state. This place was very local to him. It's also not like the people he met there could not have provided him with his equipment.

ParticleCannon 6 points ago +6 / -0

Except of course during election years, where every day is Opposite Day!

LatitudeofMind 96 points ago +96 / -0

Lin Wood has entered the game.

EvanOnTheFly 32 points ago +32 / -0 (edited)

I just donated 50$ to htpps://fightback.law


Spez: just proof and a working link.

Proof: https://thedonald.win/p/GvYPSSTB/match-me-for-kyle/c/

fasterth 11 points ago +11 / -0

Can you tell me why they're important? I'm just hearing about them now and I don't know who they are and what they can do with the donations.

Redheadgrrl 10 points ago +10 / -0

He also defended Richard Jewel from the Atlanta olympics bombing and got a defamation settlement.

mugwump 9 points ago +9 / -0

Pede lawyers who know how to use their dick to legally bang whomever needs it.

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EvanOnTheFly 5 points ago +5 / -0

Lin Wood is a lawyer involved with Nick Sandman and got him the 250M settlement from CNN.


He is now connecting and working with Kyle's family for his defense and potential countersuits for slander and defamation.

flashersenpai 6 points ago +6 / -0

correction they sued to 250M but the settlement is confidential

EvanOnTheFly 4 points ago +4 / -0

thanks. Facts matter.

cheesecakelove 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oohwee I bet he got 10-25 mil anyway.

Kloned 3 points ago +4 / -1

Didn't match, but I'm in for $20.


wewongetoveritmaga 2 points ago +2 / -0

Be careful posting donation links. I just got banned for it yesterday. Thankfully the mods are awesome and reinstated my account after I reached out.

EvanOnTheFly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Really? I guess I didn't check rules.

PensivePatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fix your first link, it’s https not htpps

lifeisahologram 1 point ago +1 / -0

Whats the difference between the donation links? The website has 2 links next to eachother. One says donations and one says donations for kyle, isnt all of it for kyle technically?

I doubt Lin is scamming, but i couldnt clarify the difference on the site. I guess i should just use the Kyle Donation link?

Kloned 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm assuming one is for all cases and the other is specifically for Kyle's case.

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Markiep89 91 points ago +92 / -1

Let’s see if JB Prickster lets his tyranny flow.

Bullet_Tooth_Tony 43 points ago +43 / -0

That fat fuck just told us earlier this week that we "have to" put a mask on each time the waiter/waitress comes back to your dining table. His tyranny is flowing like his morning diarrhea shits after a night of eating aborted babies.

I can't even wrap my head around how retarded the man is. Put a mask on to go sit down, outside mind you. Then take it off to eat, but make sure to put it back on whenever they come to your table. WTF is this shit?!

TacoBot 13 points ago +13 / -0

I doubt many establishments are going to enforce Fatzger's latest rules. I can only speak for the one restaurant/bar I've been to since the new rules went into effect on Wednesday, but the owner was having none of it. Place up near Wisconsin with an outdoor bar and surrounded by over a dozen tables a friend and I were drinking at yesterday afternoon. Owner was approached and asked about the new rule and he rather forcefully barked "I don't care what that fat fucking pussy Pritzker says". The owner's two friends that were sitting at the bar having burgers laughed their ass off at the comment...the owner's friends....two police officers.

006rbc 4 points ago +4 / -0

Which is why I won't visit any establishment that requires this lunacy. I still got take out to support them during the shutdown but I won't if they enforce this.

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CleanYourRoom 81 points ago +81 / -0

Wow, did any of the 30 murders that happened during the riots result in anyone being charged? Asking for a friend.

AcostasButtPlug 42 points ago +42 / -0

Yeah I know the shit head who killed David Dorn was charged with murder.

Actual_Liberal 19 points ago +19 / -0

I didn't know that. At least that's something.

HuggaMaga 22 points ago +22 / -0

I wonder about the shitstain gang members who shoot 3 year olds and others in Chicago, we never know their names or the news never goes to their addresses....oh they never find them & never solve those crimes.

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Shayhawk 16 points ago +16 / -0

My brain always sees this as "Melon Love" when I first read it...

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Shayhawk 2 points ago +2 / -0

You worked WAY too hard on this... but its funny as heck :)

Shayhawk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well.. ok then... now I know this exists and its AWESOME.

Reddit_is_Deddit 0 points ago +1 / -1

Shore is good! 🍉👀

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Pukeahontas 50 points ago +50 / -0

He should counter sue the DA and all other democRAT sucks abusing him on social media and spreading lies hate and fake news.

I even saw some freaks hoping he would be put in an adult correctional facility and get “raped” while in there

Except that’s not how it works does it dipshits? Liberal creeps cannot be far away from their pedo thoughts

KILLARY4PRISON 11 points ago +11 / -0

Impossible. If you think cops having "qualified immunity" is bad... try "absolute immunity" DAs and judges enjoy.

goodbeerbetterviews2 8 points ago +8 / -0

Their immunity ends when we want it to.

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commies0ride0free 22 points ago +22 / -0

Yep I’m getting on this bandwagon. The outrage is going to quickly wear off, doesn’t help that all those dudes had records (not saying that’s justification just saying it doesn’t look good), there’s SUFFICIENT video evidence and enough publicity and push back. My moneys on he gets fined.

Maybe he’ll speak at the RNC in a few years

Beachboy1b 9 points ago +9 / -0

Fun fact, that’s the case my father red-pilled me with all those years ago.

I shudder to think what kind of person I would have become if my dad wasn’t the good man he was and set me on the right path.

Actually, thinking back, it’s terrifying. You grow up believing everything on the news because, well, surely the news people wouldn’t lie, right? I remember believing it so easily, and it just really freaks me out that there are adults who are like this. Minds that are still soft and malleable for the Democrats and the MSM to mold & manipulate as they please.

Starseed 36 points ago +36 / -0

Wow finally some good news coming from illinois.

bill_in_texas 7 points ago +8 / -1

Yes and no. It guarantees he stays in jail for a month. Would you want to spend a month in jail with a bunch of thugs that no doubt want to kill or hurt you for the street cred they will get for hurting white boy?

This means no bail, no signature bond for Kyle.

Starseed 6 points ago +6 / -0

Welp thanks for clearing it up for me. Now ive gone back to hating my state. This is kinda off topic but have you heard any news regarding .win domains for each state? Im tired of doing nothing, i want to organize with other illinois pedes and actually bring about change.

turdinthepunch 34 points ago +34 / -0

“So the kid shot gaige as he drew his weapon and gaige retreated with his gun in hand. I just talked to Gaige Grosskreutz too his only regret was not killing the kid and hesitating to pull the gun before emptying the entire mag into him. Coward,” a friend of Grosskreutz wrote in a chat.

Filo76 40 points ago +40 / -0

Gaige should be arrested and charged with attempted murder.

ConstitutionAboveAll 23 points ago +23 / -0

send that to Kyle's lawyers. Document everything and archive it.

commies0ride0free 1 point ago +4 / -3

That can’t be used in court

Molten_Plastic 21 points ago +21 / -0

The Fuck it can't. Subpoena the friend.

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gummibarenaked 6 points ago +6 / -0

Don't be shy in quoting specific rules of evidence that you believe apply.

DisgustedByMisleadia 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do you have documented proof of that?

It should go to Kyle's defense team.

turdinthepunch 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's a quote from the article. Read the article.

DisgustedByMisleadia -3 points ago +1 / -4

I hate to break it to you, but an undocumented claim in "The Gateway Pundit" is almost certainly click-bait. The site's owners get things wrong more often than they get it right, but they don't care as long as they get the revenue from your click.

turdinthepunch 3 points ago +3 / -0

I repeat, it is a quote from the article.

DisgustedByMisleadia -3 points ago +1 / -4

And again, a quote from a Gateway Pundit article might as well be a claim from Xenu. It means nothing in a defense trial.

turdinthepunch 6 points ago +6 / -0

Oh shit I'm a lawyer mounting Kyle's defense now? Holy fuck! Here I thought I was just some random extracting an interesting quote from the article and putting it in the comments.

DisgustedByMisleadia -3 points ago +1 / -4

Go back to my original question:

Do you have documented proof of that? It should go to Kyle's defense team.

I was asking for documented proof. If you don't have it, just say so. Otherwise, I don't want you to waste the time of Kyle's attorneys.

Have a nice day.

Redheadgrrl 2 points ago +2 / -0

Andy Gno tweeted the screenshot yesterday

DisgustedByMisleadia 3 points ago +3 / -0 (edited)

I found this:


But, it doesn't have a screenshot of Jacob Marshall making that claim. All it has is Ngo's recounting of the claim, which could be ruled hearsay.

For a defense attorney to enter this into evidence, he will have to first depose Marshall and confront him with the claim and get confirmation under oath.

Then, he MIGHT be able to confront Grosskreutz with Marshall's statement during cross-examination, if the judge allows it.

Granite_MAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

GrossCrouton is going to be deposed for tens of hours over this.

There's a very high likelihood he's going to let slip that it was premeditated. "Premeditated" means he "went looking" for the "supposed shooter" while armed and hoping to "stop him".

Anything like that is going to be incriminating because individuals are not allowed to go hunt anyone with lethal force. That's murder. Even if the person killed someone else.

This guy stands a very good chance of ending up with worse charges than Kyle and his big mouth as the short-lived Leftist hero is going to fuck his ass harder than Kyle fucked his arm.

DisgustedByMisleadia 1 point ago +1 / -0

That presumes that the DA will charge Grosskreutz. They have him dead-to-rights on felon possession of a gun (or was it domestic violence). He should be in the prison ward at the hospital now.

Maybe the US attorney will file federal charges.

logic1010 30 points ago +30 / -0

Wow from Illinois that's a shocker

PinkoPatrol 34 points ago +34 / -0

Most of Illinois is based. Chicago is the blue shitstain on the rest of the state.

Sauce: am former Chicagoan.

EpicWizardDuel 15 points ago +15 / -0

Born and raised in the Chicago suburbs (thankfully don't live there anymore). I don't think a lot of people realize a staggering part of Illinois is salt of the earth farmers and heartland workers. If it weren't for Chicago Illinois would be as red as it gets.

RolandDelacroix 6 points ago +6 / -0

And Lake county. And Will county when the Daley's were pushing in there. And alot of the other collar counties.

I'm in the exurbs and even we have been turning uncomfortably blue over the last few years as the city/suburbs based NPCs flee what they have created.

bill_in_texas 3 points ago +3 / -0

I bet Palos Heights is getting a bunch of new residents right about now.

logic1010 2 points ago +2 / -0

I live in a cornfield Illinois, moved from the suburbs. Can confirm, soon to be ex Illinois.

ShrikeDeCil 27 points ago +27 / -0

That's Kyle "Pedobane" Rittenhouse to you!

Colonel_Urinal 24 points ago +25 / -1

Waiting on charges against one armed fake paramedic

AcostasButtPlug 22 points ago +22 / -0

Does this mean anything significant? Can someone explain how this benefits Kyle?

MAGAnum_PI 32 points ago +32 / -0

The pack of lawyers he is about to have have time to get to him

arminius009- 17 points ago +17 / -0 (edited)

Basically, they can't start the criminal process until the extradition process is complete. They don't have "jurisdiction" over him while he's in Illinois. Most of the time...people just waive extradition....but they want to delay until he is represented by a private attorney. Once he has attorney on board, they will probably waive or agree to extradition. It's basically just a delay...and probably related to inmate housing. In Illinois he's in a youth faciltiy. WI is trying him as an adult, so he would go to probably state prison housing during proceedings...which would suck for him or..at best...county jail...but that would also still suck.

AcostasButtPlug 15 points ago +15 / -0

True. I've been worried about him going to prison because the media has been showing him as a blue lives matter guy and people in prison don't take kindly to cop supporters.

itsoldhickory 10 points ago +10 / -0

He can be released on bond due to the extraordinary exculpatory evidence available.

arminius009- 6 points ago +6 / -0

That may be exactly correct

arminius009- 4 points ago +4 / -0

There may also be a procedural move that is require to be filed at a certain point that they want to delay. I'm not super experienced in criminal law..and have no knowledge of WI criminal law...but

In civil law...if someone files a "complaint" against you...you can file an "Answer", but if you do, then you are accepting certain facts, that once you file an "Answer" can no longer be challanged. However, if the "complaint" is lacking...you can file a Demurrer and have the case thrown out or attack certain parts of it prior to being required to "answer"

Again...I don't know criminal WI law....but like that civil process it MIGHT be a delay tactic to stall for an actual private defense attorney to have time to apply procedural technical process prior to transfer to Wisconsin.

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Vir4030 6 points ago +6 / -0

Does he get to go home? I understand he's still in jail.

commies0ride0free 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also wondering, last heard he was being held without bond

BrakeRemovalMechanic 3 points ago +3 / -0

I thought he was being held without bail.

HilaryAtCostco 10 points ago +10 / -0

The delay is so that he can hire his own attorney

nero2003 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nothing special. A standard delay so he has time to get a lawyer.

Mad_Hattie 21 points ago +23 / -2

Who else is laughing at the "We are trying him as an adult" for possession of a weapon while underage?

EPic 11 points ago +11 / -0

The left is so unhinged they work against their own interests

KRosen333 5 points ago +5 / -0


I've been explaining this to everyone at work.

What a clown show. HONK HONK.

Slick_Willys_Nutsack 21 points ago +21 / -0

Good, more time to mount a great defense.

Also need to follow lefty, if his only regret was not finishing him off what's to keep him from doing just that or putting a hit/bounty on Kyle. Hopefully he learns from this and moves on but these people are mentally ill and probably won't. If he does anything fucky someone needs to finish the job.

Rage 18 points ago +18 / -0

He should be arrested the minute the wheelchair drops him at the exit of the hospital. He had a gun, is a felon, and is on video attacking Kyle.

DisgustedByMisleadia 5 points ago +5 / -0

And per a comment above, has told someone he regrets not killing Kyle when he had the chance.


MAGAmanforever 19 points ago +19 / -0

I hope they go to a jury trial so America can be reminded that self defense is a basic human right. And then I hope his lawyer smokes every journalist that defamed his client to many millions.

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BearFloo 18 points ago +19 / -1

Next will be the dropping of the charges

ThirteenPercenter 16 points ago +16 / -0

Interesting how this gets so much more media coverage than the actual “train kids to become an ISIS school shooter” compound the FBI bulldozed.

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South_Florida_Guy 14 points ago +14 / -0

Charges might get dropped by then. Best outcome.

ind2rep2020 13 points ago +13 / -0

What does this mean?

IncredibleMrE1 20 points ago +20 / -0

Kyle has a month to lawyer up and prepare his defense. Since Lin Wood is leading that charge, the prosecution is going to get eaten alive.

Sophocles 13 points ago +14 / -1 (edited)

We must oppose this kid's prosecution at every step.

We need to fight this kid's extradition.

If that doesn't work, we need to help this kid argue for his self defense rights at trial.

If that doesn't work, we need to make sure the jurors annul the law.

If that doesn't work, we need to break Kyle out of jail.

And if the cops try to put Kyle back in jail, we need to offer him asylum in a sane place like Idaho.

And if the feds come knocking to drag Kyle back to Illinois, we need to knock them back.

We cannot allow the leftist institutions of evil to ruin this poor kid's life. He's a symbol for what all of us face. We need to protect him.

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Vir4030 10 points ago +10 / -0

Been following this story, and this is fantastic. This gives Kyle plenty of time to establish a defense in court. Unfortunately, he's sitting in jail while this is happening.

OnlyTrump20 5 points ago +5 / -0

He can probably get the charges dropped with a good presentation with all the facts and videos available.

OnlyTrump20 9 points ago +9 / -0

He can't get a fair trial or a fair jury right now while CNN continues to lie and slander him.

MAGANYficent 9 points ago +9 / -0

The state overreached big time - they have to prove that Kyle had "a depraved mind, regardless of life" for it to stick. He was defending himself against a number of attackers (one who tried to bash his head in with a skateboard and the other who pulled a gun (and per his words "wanted to unload the clip into him [Kyle]."

Per WI Law: In Wisconsin, first-degree reckless homicide is a Class B Felony. In order to be found guilty of first-degree reckless homicide, the state must prove two elements beyond a reasonable doubt. The first element is that you recklessly caused the death of another human. According to Wisconsin statute 939.24, criminal recklessness takes place when your actions create an unreasonable and substantial risk of great bodily harm or death to another human and you are aware of that risk. The second element is that you were acting under circumstances that show an utter disregard for human life. The state can prove this element by showing that your conduct demonstrated “a depraved mind, regardless of life.” State v. Dolan, 44 Wis. 2d 68 (1969). One defense against first-degree reckless homicide is that your actions did not create an unreasonable and substantial risk of great bodily harm or death to another human. A second defense is that you were not aware of any such risk. A third defense is that your conduct did not show an utter disregard for human life.

EPic 6 points ago +6 / -0

He was falling back and defending himself in both instances. No jury would convict him if they are able to show the video evidence.

anon572759 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's so much footage of this incident its insane. There's clear stills of skater boi bashing him with his ride, lefty drawing the gun prior to Kyle disarming him, and one of the Daily Mail dudes was right there when he defended himself from Shorty McShootmepedo. Illinois may not even let him be extradited if Linn Wood shows up.

ignorant_slob 8 points ago +8 / -0

Hopefully they get lots of juicy documents in discovery. Communication from the politicians to the police force, text messages from the wannabe revolutionaries, and bank records showing any financial aspects to organized this terror against the community. I hope the families of the dead bad guys sue the agitators who stirred the pot too!

EPic 6 points ago +6 / -0

Omg discovery on these 3 commies can put a lot of people in jail alone

wildturkey80 1 point ago +1 / -0

Great observation!

FUCK_DemonRATS 8 points ago +8 / -0

I hope once Kyle gets out of this mess he sues the living fuck out of all these fake news media companies to the point where they're forced to fire 70% of their staff to fork up the bill

PotentialWizard 8 points ago +8 / -0

Ideally they'd delay till after the election. It's going to be a bigger zoo prior to the election.

Arriveria 7 points ago +7 / -0

Its like Zimmerman all over again. They are gonna lose the lawsuit and Rittenhouse will sue them for defamation and even make money from dead commies

VetforTrump 6 points ago +6 / -0

The argument against extradition is solid. They are overcharging him.

anon572759 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not to mention Lefty's buddy commented he was intending to empty his gun into Kyle. I'm sure the DA will get right on those attempted murder charges.

divine32 6 points ago +6 / -0

"Rosenbaum was shot in the groin" lol

Phillysmackdown 6 points ago +6 / -0

Let him out. Wuhan virus will get him in lock up. Isn't that how it works?

rbobjones69 5 points ago +5 / -0

Only for communists

TeamGizzy 6 points ago +6 / -0

I want him to have a ticker tape parade

Kunkussion 6 points ago +6 / -0

Law enforcement knew he was out there, so I'm betting the police department will be there at trial for him too. No need to worry, this one is ez pz.

NukeChina 5 points ago +5 / -0

I stand with Kyle

Basedkyeng 5 points ago +6 / -1

This boy will NOT lose. If he does it's time for us to act

DoctorZaius 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fuck Martha MacCallum. She said on The Five that Kyle committed murder and should go to prison. Look at the evidence, bitch.

MsQleo 2 points ago +3 / -1

Dead bodies is murder to them regardless of how it happened. Its sick. A teenager wouldve been killed if he didnt fire at them.

DoctorZaius 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are exactly right about that. The media is disgusting.

streakybacon 5 points ago +5 / -0

Facebook said it was a "mass murder".

Case closed, right guys?


Sea_Still [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

He only shot 3 terrorists so that counts as Mostly Peaceful

RabidZoo 5 points ago +5 / -0

He about blew that dudes dick off. I wonder how that felt...laying there dying with a bunch of rioters phones in your face...knowing if you survive you don't have a dick anymore anyway. He wasn't just 5'3" but he was also a mental midget.

rbobjones69 4 points ago +4 / -0

Was he not a convicted felon in possession of a firearm? His sphincter is about to grow 10 sizes larger in jail.

RabidZoo 4 points ago +4 / -0

You're thinking of BicepBoi. This was the first guy that he popped. The bald guy saying "shoot me nigga"...fucking tough guy. He got one in the groin...one in his right lung and liver...one through his hand...a grazed thigh and head.

You're thinking of the last cuck. But you're right...he was illegally possessing a pistol. I'm not sure the Soros DA's will bring him up on charges but DOJ will probably draw up some federal stuff on him. If he goes to federal prison he's in a world of hurt.

GeoG85 1 point ago +1 / -0

Manlet is a mentality. You can make it your prison, or you can choose to become God's creation.

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habanero 4 points ago +4 / -0

Kyle will be set for life if he counter sues. At 18 or so.

EPic 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well he wanted to be famous in 2020

mainsoda 4 points ago +4 / -0

The whole situation is so disgusting. Nobody will stop the terrorists in BLM and the politicians and prosecutors all side with them. So good Americans go out to defend the buildings the government will not. Then of course the rabid blood thirsty mob attacks a defender and the defender defends himself and the charges are ridiculous. This kid better go free in the end.

Yourhearse 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are 100% correct.

Warren_Puffitt 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is good. More time for the Wisconsin commie DA (and more reasonable people) to see the absence of crimes being committed by brave young Kyle in all that video out there showing exactly that, and btfo with their faggot bullshit charges.

Sassyminnesotan 4 points ago +4 / -0

Over charging is never a good idea!