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posted ago by RemoteBus

I would argue that Trump and his team have saved millions of lives.

Especially with his actions of banking travel from China and then later Europe and Brazil. I found it a bit odd though that Britian was exempt in the beginning, considering it was pretty sure over though.

Compare that to the response of Democrats such as Cuomo who said people should still go out that it wasn't a big deal. And the vodka drinker Pelosi who said people should go visit Chinatown in San Fran Sicko.

During this time, Trump has had to deal with a very hostile and corrupt media that wanted to Blake every death on him, when he has been doing everything in his power to fight the WuFlu.

I believe in January he ordered flights to stop from China and soon after set up the task force, with no less than the VP to be in charge of it.

I would argue that Trump and his team have saved millions of lives. Especially with his actions of banking travel from China and then later Europe and Brazil. I found it a bit odd though that Britian was exempt in the beginning, considering it was pretty sure over though. Compare that to the response of Democrats such as Cuomo who said people should still go out that it wasn't a big deal. And the vodka drinker Pelosi who said people should go visit Chinatown in San Fran Sicko. During this time, Trump has had to deal with a very hostile and corrupt media that wanted to Blake every death on him, when he has been doing everything in his power to fight the WuFlu. I believe in January he ordered flights to stop from China and soon after set up the task force, with no less than the VP to be in charge of it.
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EPic 44 points ago +45 / -1

Thats the thing. First the try to scare everyone and project 3-5 million dead in the United States. Trump enacts policies that cut that to a small fraction. Everyone forgets that the death count should have been in the millions.

Its always a moving goalpost with the left.

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cuckslasher 5 points ago +5 / -0

nothing would have been different even if we did nothing except that the whole shitshow would have been over 2 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI&vl=en

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Nibba 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep. This. The entire Covid deal is an agenda pusher from the beginning.

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LesboPregnancyScare 1 point ago +1 / -0

Its always a moving goalpost with the left.

Trump bans travel from China. The left claim its racist.

Deaths numbers are down, the left now constantly talks about infected numbers.

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EPic 1 point ago +1 / -0

There was also that time when they started talking about per capita numbers because they were the worst ones. Complete bullshit.

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endthefed11 38 points ago +38 / -0

The numbers are bullshit.

  1. The test has tons of false positives because any coronavirus family virus will make you test positive.
  2. Presumed positives are included.
  3. No differentiation is made between deaths from COVID and deaths with COVID.
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CantThinkOfUserName 9 points ago +10 / -1

Plus the bio-weapon China released wasn't ready for prime time.

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Independenceforever 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nothing made in China ever works

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dadoctor 6 points ago +6 / -0

Correct that’s why they are very careful with their wording “COVID related deaths”. Aka the dude wrapped his car around a tree and died, but he tested positive for COVID.

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LesboPregnancyScare 1 point ago +1 / -0

Florida man killed in motorcycle accident marked as COVID death

Man with BAC of 0.55 dies from alcohol poisoning, marked as COVID death.

Many test sites in Florida reporting 100% COVID positive test rates.

600,000 military members falsely tested positive for COVID.

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connermost 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or just deaths in general.

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MedPede 1 point ago +1 / -0

The numbers are bullshit.

They certainly aren't as trust worthy as they should be given how much we have spent on this disease.

The test has tons of false positives because any coronavirus family virus will make you test positive.

There are a lot of test makers trying to cash in, some of them make garbage testing kits. The good tests do not have a high false positive rate. The bad tests or one improperly done do have a high false negative test rate.

Presumed positives are included. No differentiation is made between deaths from COVID and deaths with COVID.

Agreed. Some of this is done for the politics, some for the extra money that comes with a positive Covid checkmark on the patient's chart.

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endthefed11 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

https://www.globalresearch.ca/manufactured-pandemic-testing-people-any-strain-coronavirus-not-specifically-covid-19/5707781

Idk where you are getting your FP data, but since the pcr and serology tests have overlap with common cold strains of coronavirus, they are not specific for covid 19.

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sustainable_saltmine 24 points ago +24 / -0

the original prediction was 2 Million+ DEAD. no matter any precautions, masks, distance, lockdown, didnt matter.

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Slick_Willy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Want to bet its 60k MAX maybe less than 150k dead.

Flu deaths vanished as did multiple other deaths.

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I-am-but-an-egg 15 points ago +15 / -0 (edited)

Imagine how low it would be If the reported cause of deaths were accurate.

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RemoteBus [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

much lower than what is reported. I saw a CDC document in April which showed the actual Covid deaths, when flu and pnumonia deaths were taken out.

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nuhbin 12 points ago +12 / -0

even better when they subtract out all the car accidents, organ failure from cancer and beetus, drug overdoses, flu , etc

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Fuckreddit01 11 points ago +11 / -0 (edited)

Indeed. I said this the other day. If the virus hype was real 5 people you know closely would have died already.

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ENTP 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not to feed into the fake news hysteria, but to some extend shouldn’t we consider the reason most of us don’t personally have losses is due to aggressive response: banning china, distancing, etc.?

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Fuckreddit01 2 points ago +2 / -0

Probably not. All that was based on the fake projected mortality rate of over 2%. Now we have empirical evidence that it’s less lethal then the flu. I’m still all in favour of isolating China because this fuckery is the last straw. Fuck China.

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JustHereForTheSalmon 9 points ago +9 / -0

Even if the numbers are true (a quick positive test for China Virus for any death results in a nice fat check for the hospital), about 250,000 people a year die in fully preventable medical errors.

Context is everything.

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k-doe1 8 points ago +8 / -0

that was their plan till Trump closed the border .it was supposed to get real bad and have hospitals full till November ensuring a "Trump failed us when we needed him "talking point and masking their cheating with a "Trumps base left him" narrative ..that failed so its a shit show right now because they didnt have a backup plan, so they are winging it ..

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JohnSpartanSAPD 7 points ago +7 / -0

Isn't the normal flu season in the 100k range?

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556x45mm 6 points ago +6 / -0

The early models predicted 950,000 deaths in California alone... Fuck Gavin Newsom, open the fucking state

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endthefed11 5 points ago +5 / -0 (edited)

Democrat govs are dictators and the left loves it.

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raggedyman74 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yes. this is the same shit we saw during the Iraq War, when the original projections were 50,000 possible Troop deaths in the initial invasion, which everyone was cool with obviously since congress signed off on it. Then, we had to watch the daily troop death counts every night on the news when the numbers weren't even remotely close to the original projections.

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BidensHairyLegs 4 points ago +4 / -0

How many of this 150k died FROM COVID and how many died WITH?

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Slick_Willy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Side bet half of them were never tested for it.

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SlavicNationalist666 4 points ago +4 / -0

150,000 deaths (you have too much 0 ahahaha), and maybe 75% of demonrats. We just don't care. Fuck them.

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DebunkTheLeft 4 points ago +5 / -1

Divide that number by 3 and you get the real death toll.

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Thingthing22 4 points ago +4 / -0

And how many of them were going to dude this year anyway?

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TheDNCkilledSethRich 4 points ago +4 / -0

It’s no where near 150,000. That’s a bunch of inflated bullshit.

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stallone 4 points ago +4 / -0

I bet 80% of those numbers were fake or people with pre existing conditions or over 85 years old.

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RemoteBus [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

There was a case of someone dying from a motorcycle crash that was chalked up as a WuFlu death.

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humped2424 4 points ago +4 / -0

1 million people die in the USA every year and nobody bats a eye I guarantee you by the end of this year there will be no difference in deaths from every other year

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repoman 1 point ago +1 / -0

Will the globalists have the cuffs on by then though?

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Iosevus 4 points ago +4 / -0

2.8 million in the US die yearly. A lot of those COVID deaths had little to do with COVID and some were people who weren't going to make it through the year anyways.

Everything about it is being overblown for politics.

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cuckslasher 1 point ago +1 / -0

almost everyone dying has a coronovirus in his system at all times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AyuhbnPOI&vl=en

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MAGA-licious 3 points ago +3 / -0

It isn’t even a third of that number. That’s what is scary to me and should be to everyone. You know this number because the media told it to you, but it would take you 15 minutes, maybe more, to find the accurate flu death total and compare that all the way back to 2009 during the H1N1 scare to realize the numbers are a fucking LIE.

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Smurfection 3 points ago +3 / -0

I prefer accurate models to hysterical doomsday predictions. I'm sick of the fear mongering.

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philandy 3 points ago +3 / -0

I need proof that 150K in the US died from Corona and not under duress (like being forced into a nursing home). I have a feeling it's really less than 10K.

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johnbillaby 3 points ago +3 / -0

We've forgotten about all of those March predictions, there's no evidence of them.

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Staatssicherheit 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump re-invented pandemic testing within a month and got all of the needed supplies like vents and PPE to the hardest hit states. His championing of treatments like HCQ, plasma, remedisivir, steroids and vaccines through the cutting of red tape and deals with Kodak is unprecedented.

Any spikes in deaths at this point is due to people making their own choices including the BLM riots. Trump has done all he can do to protect the American people.

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donald_zuramp 3 points ago +3 / -0

Of course it's good. By their own yardstick Trump did a great job. If Obama were president and we had twice as many dead they'd still call Obama a hero and give him like 2 or 3 more Nobel prizes.

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sumgen7 3 points ago +3 / -0

Considering that a large percentage were deliberate nursing home murders and another large percentage were false death attributions for big $$$ then yes it is a good result

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Frosty 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s why whenever liberals say Trump killed 150k, you say he saved 1.85 million

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thots_in_chaos 2 points ago +2 / -0

The numbers are a meaningless talking point because we don't have a parallel universe where Hillary is President when all this goes down. You would have to compare both universes for it to mean anything.

But just for fun, my guess is in that universe there's a higher number of deaths and the media celebrates her for how many lives she saved.

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JamesBlomey 2 points ago +2 / -0

That is just because you can count...with numbers. Seriously, a few days before closing the airports to China the FN media was saying the targeting of the 'most revered military leader' was a 'distraction'.

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ArdentGrasshopper 2 points ago +2 / -0

The numbers are low. Once we have the total death count for 2020 and we can calculate the crude death rate and then compare it to past years, it will be totally obvious.

Basically it's totally obvious to anyone who can do basic math today, but given the fake news hysteria, few bother.

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Vir4030 2 points ago +2 / -0

How many of those people would have died by now anyways? NY Times list had many old people. How many of these people were hanging on a thread waiting for any stiff breeze to come by?

We don't know. We don't keep the stats that way. We only count them if they're dead and have COVID.

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MAGA_Master 2 points ago +2 / -0

Correct. 150,000 thousand didn’t die, 1.85 million were saved. Thank you Trump!

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anon31173 2 points ago +2 / -0

covid deaths are not counted corretly so i say even 150k is bullshit, way too high

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cajun_robear 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would bet my last dollar that the 150,000 number should be closer to 75,000. These are microscopic numbers given the US population. Yet, the rotten bastards closed down the entire country. Payback to those responsible will be glorious in November (if the people don't handle it before then).

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Bluestorm83 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry, but I'm obligated to stop counting at the end of Cold and Flu season, so we can get an accurate comparison to "The Flu," which many of us, from the beginning, have been saying this is comparable to.

If I DO stop counting at the end of Cold and Flu season, we get somewhere between 100,000 and 120,000 reported covid deaths. Compared to our worst flu season, which was around 80,000, that's pretty bad. Except those are REPORTED deaths. Including "Death WITH Covid." If we reduce those numbers by the estimated 25% they're inflated... Ah shit, we get 75,000 to 90,000. The median of which falls within Flu Death Numbers.

I wouldn't argue that Trump and his team saved millions of lives. I would argue that nothing we did mattered at fucking all, and if anything we came out a shit ton worse than if they'd just stayed open and devoted full production to Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, Zinc tablets for people to take.

But DAMN STRAIGHT as we head into the Election, we need the Trump Administration to run ads showing Fauci's original "Millions will die, even with mitigation!" clips and then explaining how the Trump Administration saved the vast majority of those Fauci Death Projections' lives. And I believe Trump WILL argue that. Because he's more practical than I am, and less willing to burn the whole fucking thing down, and honestly smarter.

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watchingindisbelief 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even better when those numbers are very likely off by at least twenty percent. Remember when Colorado lowered theirs by 23%?

North Carolina Senator Jeff Jackson helped push legislation through, in the middle of the night, to disallow public access to death records. I'm sure it has nothing to do with NCs 2,000 deaths, in a state of ten million, being way off.

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Grief 1 point ago +1 / -0

The numbers aren't even that high. Don't forget about all the death certificates with fake causes of death to inflate the numbers and generate hospital revenue. The forced deaths in ventilators? Texas just saying they counted people. Who weren't even reported as covid on their death certificate. We have a high number of cases due to increased testing and fraud. I don't buy any of it and it'll disappear after the election or as soon as they believe it hurts Biden. Covid is real, the reaction to it is fake.

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Unicron3 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not only did President Trump save 2 million lives, he also massively reduced all other forms of death!!!

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rentfREEEE_since2016 1 point ago +2 / -1

150K is good considering that the MSM said over 2 million would die, and also considering that they're pulling all the stops to get that death count as high as possible before November. If they reported accurate covid caused death numbers I bet the actual numbers would be fucking incredible (like <60k)

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Independenceforever 1 point ago +1 / -0

Everything that happened at 9-11 is happening again

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mumblenuggets 1 point ago +1 / -0

150k is a corrupt exagerration.

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Magaman001142 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes. Nobody is actually sad or scared about the deaths.

Well, few are, who are afraid of anything.

But a couple hundred thousand old people or people with compromised immune systems dying isn't even bad.

Its life. If 1 million died I wouldn't be concerned.

Now, if OVER 5 million died in USA, I'd be a bit concerned, but even then, that happens to animal life.

Things come, we die. It happens. Happened all throughout human history. Its nature running its course.

Now, if we find out it's not natural, and was created in a lab in China, I'd say it's a larger concern.

Mother nature kills. But if it's man made? Hmmm.

Don't drugs kill more Americans than covid? Like, by far?

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anon9-9-9 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even that number of deaths attributed to COVID is exaggerated with comorbidity. We won't see any significant change in deaths relative to periods that didn't get the media attention about some specific threat. There are bigger health issues out there then COVID-19, and this is nothing new.

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DrLuther 1 point ago +1 / -0

Unless the Lord returns soon, every man, woman and child on this earth is going to die. When did adults lose sight of the fact that death is inevitable and being a bitch about it doesn't change that? The real enemies are sin, death and the devil and the only solution is the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Avdimar 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'd say 150,000 deaths isn't as bad as they are making it sound, especially when you could call some of those deaths into question. Unless COVID somehow becomes a yearly killer like the flu, it's numbers won't touch our yearly killers here.

Heart disease: 647,457 Cancer: 599,108 Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936 Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383 Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404 Diabetes: 83,564 Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633 Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

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BigLove 1 point ago +1 / -0

And now you understand why framing the narrative is so important and why the Left will never let go of the corporate media.

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DearCow 1 point ago +1 / -0

We will never be able to find out the truth; those numbers have been fake. the vast majority of those deaths were from other causes but a tribute to Covid

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JesusisKing 1 point ago +1 / -0

get out of here with your FACTS

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BuckyKatt60 1 point ago +1 / -0

Consider this...it wouldn’t even be at 150K if Dems hasn’t seeded nursing homes with CCP virus patients!

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CLF3 1 point ago +1 / -0

Funny how influenza deaths fell through the floor at the same time the covid deaths came up. I guess it's just a coincidence they share the exact same synptoms.

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Red-in-Tooth 1 point ago +1 / -0

I always talk about this with the idiot leftists I deal with. We were told millions of people in America alone were going to die. We aren't even close to that. I would call that pretty good.

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GeneralVeers 0 points ago +2 / -2

Right now, from the figures I can find, CV is about twice as deadly as the flu.

Big f-ing deal. :p