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BobDobalina 343 points ago +394 / -51 (edited)

It might be systemic racism... or they might be working their ass off... keeping their families together.... practicing religion..... educating themselves..... eating healthy.... starting their own businesses....

Nah it's probably systemic racism


Edit: the replies below just proved, that many in America still negatively judge Indians as soon as they see them, hey, it's an Indian guy, they're taking our jobs! "Indians" suck as doctors!

Yet they still succeed. completely destroys the dem myth about racism, even with obvious racism (like that below) they still kick ass. GO INDIAN-AMERICANS!!!!

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PeaceThroughStrength 184 points ago +189 / -5 (edited)

Indians and Filipinos are grossly overrepresented in the medical, nursing and tech fields and have relatively small populations who were imported for such purposes.

That's why the numbers are skewed.

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The_Checkz 130 points ago +130 / -0

Is a little funny and a little sad. Blacks thought this diversity in tech push and in tech leadership push would mean more blacks getting promoted and also put in executive positions, but in my company it only lead to a bunch of Indian hires in those positions...

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RedJive 117 points ago +118 / -1

Indians also hire, promote, and protect other Indians to a degree that white Americans never would.

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Oda_nicullah [S] 91 points ago +92 / -1

Every race does except whites...pretty much

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deadBeefCafe2014 57 points ago +57 / -0

Yup, because you’d be fired for showing your own in-group preference ... if you are white, that is.

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lank23 18 points ago +18 / -0

my HR top person is a African American, the people under him are all AA, only the newest person is Black/Asian women....when I interview people they always push the AA person even thought they might not have a pulse or even figure out how to tie their shoes.........when I say that AA person is not able to do the job they get pissed at me....I hire only on ability not skin color!!!

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fj9041jg8nqheufhqiun 17 points ago +17 / -0

As part of the push for civil rights, the whites gave up all their identity for the promise that all other races would do the same and we would enhance our meritocracy by removing race from the equations.

Whites were lied to and other races just took it.

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synd1050 3 points ago +3 / -0

it Is sad.the 1965 immigration bill changed a lot of things.USA is becoming like a multicultural Latin American country;Whites need to wake up!!

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SnowflakeJuice 34 points ago +35 / -1

To a degree that it would be illegal for white Americans to do. But the fact that they are "minorities" gives them the cover to do whatever the fuck they want

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Smilodoner 9 points ago +13 / -4

But bro my neighbor is Indian and they're super nice. Natural conservatives!

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Spudster 13 points ago +15 / -2

Natural conservatives!

Sadly, no

65% of Indian Americans were Democrats or leaned toward the Democrats, making them the Asian-American subgroup most likely to identify with the Democratic Party.

From here: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/09/30/5-facts-about-indian-americans/

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lixa 21 points ago +22 / -1

My landlords are Indian and “conservative.” But they told me why and it’s because they want to keep their money. It is not because they have conservative values otherwise, they are totally mercenary and don’t have any morals when it comes to other people they have to step on to keep their lifestyle. Rather nice people to deal with socially and casually I always thought. Not so much with business matters or when they’re in authority over you. Typical third worlders, my dad always says.

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Harambe 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ran into 3 bad indian doctors so far. Their compassion is...low. I actively avoid them now.

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Smilodoner 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was being hyperbolic, to mock such ideas. Should have added a wink or something.

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Spudster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Right over my head, haha. But a lot of people do seem to think that, because of guys like Bobby Jindal and Dinesh, Indians are more conservative than typical Asian-American groups, when in fact it's the exact opposite.

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synd1050 2 points ago +2 / -0

“Natural conservatives” - that is the GOP globalist platform best selling point.

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EpicPede 4 points ago +4 / -0

Blink once if this is irony.

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Smilodoner 1 point ago +1 / -0

I blinked once, but I don't think you could see it.

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tl3c0 54 points ago +54 / -0

Yeah and if you wanna talk about race/classism just examine nepotism and preferential hiring based on race in the tech field with Indians. When I was working in NY State Tech we used to refer to them as the Indian Mafia. They move into the jobs and freeze out any other non-indians and Indians of a class they don't want to see do well.

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Polyobfuscation 36 points ago +36 / -0

Came in to post this. I’ve been in tech for 20 years and seen how big of a problem it is. Entire departments and companies get taken over by Indians. Second and third generation Indians educated in America are usually pretty competent, but Indians from India tend to come from a culture where they cheat to get ahead, and it shows in their horrific spaghetti code. And Indian hiring managers care more about nepotism than hiring qualified candidates. It will eventually be the downfall of companies like IBM. If American whites did the same thing...

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freedomconnoisseur 16 points ago +16 / -0

Same number of years and same experience. I will add that Indians from India are culturally unable to take decisive action on their own. They are unwilling to do something that will leave their ass uncovered. Ass covering is of paramount importance. Far more so than getting the job done.

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magnokor 9 points ago +9 / -0

Indians from India tend to come from a culture where they cheat to get ahead

The Caste System, plus the most racist group around, plus cheating.

Paying bribes — often in the guise of "donations" — to gain admission to Indian medical schools is widespread, according to India's health ministry, doctors and college officials.

In June, Bloomberg News reported that Boeing's recent problems with their 737 Max fleet — where the corporation allegedly knew of the issues two years before two fatal crashes occurred — coincided with Boeing executives outsourcing U.S. software jobs to foreign workers through HCL Technologies Ltd. — an India-based outsourcing firm.

Not hard to top for money earned when the entire culture is about destroying everyone else, ripping them off.

U.S. authorities have sentenced 21 people in connection with an India-based call centre scam that bilked Americans of hundreds of millions of dollars.

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quodvox 5 points ago +5 / -0

It will eventually be the downfall of companies like IBM

You're too late

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tl3c0 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are dev or systems? Wish we had direct messaging Mods :)

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sancai 44 points ago +50 / -6

Indians do great in countries without diversity quotas too, though.

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buttfuckmebigfoot 52 points ago +57 / -5

FOB Indian guys can be a disaster for sexual misconduct in workplaces though, due to uh cultural differences.

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OlDirtyBarrister 52 points ago +54 / -2

Show bobs & vagene

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buttfuckmebigfoot 25 points ago +25 / -0

Bitch lasagna

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fredmertz 3 points ago +3 / -0

hahaha

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RyanT282 15 points ago +15 / -0

Helo babi let's have sexi sex cloth off

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RenaissanceOfHope 2 points ago +3 / -1

Sources?

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SnowflakeJuice 42 points ago +44 / -2

Only because the Indian hiring managers give preference to other Indians

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freedomconnoisseur 20 points ago +20 / -0

True fucking story.

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Smilodoner 18 points ago +18 / -0

Yup. They look past the blatant lying about experience and inability to speak English.

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Spawnlingman 37 points ago +41 / -4

I worked with an Indian woman. Pleasent and graceful. She asked if I could drop a computer off to her house after work. Me and my brother did the favor and we met her husband and son. The neighborhood was not fantastic but I have never met to this day a more pleasant and transparent family. We were thanked, offered to stay for dinner for a mere 10 minute drive. Family pictures everywhere. I'm not a red neck by far but I even felt just a bit out classed not by their possessions but by who they came across as human beings.

I'd go far to say their culture combined with American opportunity has been a winning combination.

I sometimes wonder why black culture is seemingly open and proud as tribal and gang and hood related. Rap and hip hop promote adultery, violence against women, violence against neighbors. I know theirs good and bad in all races but the fbi statistics don't lie.

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MAGANYficent 28 points ago +29 / -1

For answers to the questions you posed, you need to read Thomas Sowell's Black Rednecks and White Liberals.

It will truly open your eyes as to why a portion of black culture is the way it is.

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Smilodoner 11 points ago +11 / -0

It has nothing to do with IQ! Look away!

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weme06 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yeah, that's the thing about the great Dr Sowell. One of the smartest guys in the world but...

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Spawnlingman 2 points ago +2 / -0

I will read that. Thankyou!

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SouthernJohn 15 points ago +17 / -2 (edited)

Any country they go has diversity hires. If they were doing great India wouldnt be such a terrible place

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raymond_windsor -1 points ago +6 / -7

The smartest and brightest leave India... leaving the redneck equivalents behind.. which is why India is the way it is.

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SouthernJohn 11 points ago +12 / -1

I dont recall rednecks having a rape epidemic or creating a flood of fecal matter on land and sea. Are you really trying to say they all left at the same exact time and then it went to pot? Ok, so what happened before they left?

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EpicPede 8 points ago +8 / -0

got him lol

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +2 / -1

He just meant that the smartest get out of that hell hole when they can.

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raymond_windsor -2 points ago +1 / -3

Rednecks have their share of sexual deviants just like the rapists among ngrs and wetbacks.

Contrary to what you read, there is no flood of fecal matter in land and sea. It exists in certain places just like New Orleans, San Francisco, New York, etc.

Most of them started leaving India in the last 25 years. This coincides with the Internet / technology boom.

Prior to that, only selected professionals (doctors, nurses, specialist engineers,etc) had the opportunity to leave. The rest of them had no option but to stay in the shithole and raise their kids with the values of education; fiscal, moral and religious conservatism.

India is a shithole because of the people who run the politics of the country.

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RedPillMissionary 5 points ago +5 / -0

Except India

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Cacciali_Via 5 points ago +5 / -0

Then why is India such a shithole?

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EpicPede 4 points ago +4 / -0

hmm have you seen....India?

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Smilodoner 3 points ago +3 / -0

In African and Hispanic countries.

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synd1050 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why does USA need diversity quotas?

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_soundwave_ 28 points ago +29 / -1

My company hired a Hispanic AND an Indian to lead our damn diversity team. Hilarious. Whoops.

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RenaissanceOfHope 1 point ago +1 / -0

What happened in that scenario u/soundwave ?

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_soundwave_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

In their big push to recognize black lives matter, they had to settle for an Indian to lead their nationwide diversity squad. STEM happened.

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Impressive-Length 16 points ago +16 / -0

Household income stats also favor households with more than one income.

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ignorant_slob 14 points ago +21 / -7

I know a lot of single income Indian households. They have very strong traditional values.

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MidwestNorsk 38 points ago +38 / -0

Ask them about Indians from another part of their country and you'll find out what real racism is all about.

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MidwestNorsk 13 points ago +19 / -6

The Hindi hate the Muslims and the Muslims hate the Hindi and they all hate the Christians.

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JCoke 6 points ago +8 / -2

Uneducated? The largest Christian population in India is in the state of Kerala which has the highest literacy rating in the country (~95%).

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raymond_windsor 0 points ago +3 / -3

You have no idea what you're taking about, do you?

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freedomconnoisseur 6 points ago +6 / -0

The butter chicken Indians HATE the dosa Indians.

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raymond_windsor -4 points ago +2 / -6

Dont the rednecks hate the wetbacks and they both hate the ngers?

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Smilodoner 9 points ago +9 / -0

Why don't they vote for Republicans then?

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raymond_windsor 5 points ago +7 / -2

They're taught upon arrival that republicans are the party of racist whites. Trump has changed quite a few minds....

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ignorant_slob 3 points ago +4 / -1

India inherited a legacy of socialism around the time they split from the British. They are also a much more community/tribe oriented society.

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Smilodoner 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's all the fault of the whites!

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Verrerogo 11 points ago +12 / -1 (edited)

Not sure about that. If the woman does not work, the guy works longer hours, has no household chores much, can travel more easily. They are eating cheaper because the woman is not coming home too tired to cook. They are spared her second tax bill, second commute bill, second work wardrobe, child care expenses.

Child care expenses is a big one.

If she home schools, they are also spared school costs, if they were going to use private school.

Private school tuition is a big one.

Then there is the thing of having children. Every child a salaried woman has costs her down time and loss of that salary, and child care. If she were not working, there would be be none of that. So if a man wants children, he can't afford them, if his wife is working. Why? Because the more she makes, the more he LOSES when she is home with a baby, or resting because baby is imminent. Then there is child care.

Child care is MORE than having another car. Much more. Private school costs just like a medium tier COLLEGE every single year. K to 12. Oh boy.

There is nothing so profitable to an (energetic) man as a non-working wife. That is why immigrants from traditional cultures get ahead so very, very fast.

Edit: there are other women family members present, helping, in traditional households. Not the mother all by herself. It is nice to have a paid maid too. A man working these hours can afford that.

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chelthing 0 points ago +2 / -2

Very well put!

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Verrerogo 6 points ago +7 / -1 (edited)

IT'S NOT JUST THE MONEY.

Let us say a man is having dinner with a very, very well paid professional woman. They like each other. They want marriage but nobody is getting hurt here, no promises have been made. It's exploratory. The woman says, "As to children, my salary covers a nanny for each child. It's not an issue." The man says, patiently, "It is. You will be taking time off work for a few months when each child is born. Your colleagues will forgive that twice. They will not forgive it every year and a half. You will lose your professional standing and be mocked as baby-mad. You will not be viewed as reliable. You are always disappearing. And I want a big family. More than two. You will inevitably need to take time to both have, and interact with, your children. It's only human. And the more of them there are, the more time that will take up. I DO understand you make a high salary. But your personal time will not be adequate for both a large family and professional standing. For you to marry a man who wants more than two children is professional suicide. You will still work, but your star will fade. It's me or your job. I wouldn't do that to you. I don't think we have a future. Because I want more than two children."

"Why aren't two children enough?" said the woman.

"I want more."

They cordially went their separate ways.

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omegapede 1 point ago +1 / -0

hahahahaha... yes

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Gtsx 1 point ago +3 / -2

Indians don’t count as unrepresented minorities. Neither any other Asians.

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Smilodoner 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes they do. Anyone who isn't white counts.

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DocOne 55 points ago +62 / -7

That and a lot of them have "degrees" from Indian schools and let me tell you, say what you want about American universities, a lot of these STEM degrees from places like India aren't worth the ink used to print them.

It's actually concerning how useless some of these "engineers" are, depending what the field is. It's just that Indian and other SE Asian Ph.D's will work for US undergrad money.

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Isthisusedtoo 28 points ago +33 / -5

I’ve never met an Indian I don’t like, but I agree about their schooling. In the physical therapy world, for the past ten years, Americans needed a doctorate, while Indians were allowed to come over with a bachelors for the same jobs. This drove down the salaries across the board and pretty much just sucked for Americans all around. Kinda sucked hearing them complain about being broke when they have no student loan debt and American kids are in debt 100,000 for the same job.

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DocOne 25 points ago +25 / -0

You can tell a company is fishing for H1B's when the job listing asks for all kinds of quals, often legit impossible (like 10 years coding experience in a language that's 5 years old type shit) and a doctorate but the starting salary is like $45-$55k.

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Smilodoner 10 points ago +10 / -0

It's maddening. I know why this goes on here, but I don't know how it's allowed.

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omegapede 25 points ago +29 / -4

Yup I know an Indian professor. They are very well-educated on paper but it translates very, very poorly to actual knowledge, unless you just need them to spout of tech buzzwords

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MidwestNorsk 21 points ago +22 / -1 (edited)

One of my Visa holding Indian coworkers freely admits to group cheating all of the way through school with people of their own caste. He's now mortally afraid of causing shame on his family if he were not allowed to stay here indefinitely. Cheating through school to get the stem degree is not one bit of an embarrassment. I His Indian buddies that he's made here all share Netflix and Amazon accounts and even share each other's credit cards. He has been here three years, can't wait to buy a Tesla and hasn't purchased a single stick of furniture. Working for Google is the only other goal.

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DemRefugee007 17 points ago +17 / -0

The cheating is pretty systemic with Indian/Chinese. Can't tell you have many times guys from those countries in my classes have offered me solutions to the exams...and then made much worse grades than me because they don't understand shit.

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DemRefugee007 12 points ago +15 / -3 (edited)

I'm doing an engineering PhD, I'm around a ton of foreign nationals all of the time. Some of the smartest and dumbest people I've met were Indians. They have legit universities, but they have a bunch of bullshit ones, too. It's kind of like the Chinese...there are a shit ton of them, so statistically speaking they are going to take up a significant portion of the smart people on the planet.

For me, all of the Indian professors I know are super smart and hard working. One that I worked under as an undergrad was always hacking together random shit with a soldering iron. He came from working on new semiconductor processes in industry, too, so it wasn't like he feel into the academic trap of having his head in the clouds.

It makes me sad the prejudice that the right has against education. The problem is leftist propaganda, and it's relatively sparse in the hard sciences. I share the same contempt for the indoctrinated left as you do, but the solution is not to denigrate the educated right..particularly STEM. Don't stop your kid from doing engineering/physics/a 2-year tech degree/etc.

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omegapede 5 points ago +5 / -0

No, the reason I know of this professor is through my own studies in CS. They were embarrassing to talk to at any technical depth. Sure, there are also native born professors who might be similar... but they weren't brought over here based on their merits. Makes me wonder.

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quodvox 3 points ago +3 / -0

"there are a shit ton of them, so statistically speaking they are going to take up a significant portion of the smart people"

Further amplifying this is that unless you've met them in India, there's a lot of selection bias at play: You only see the ones that managed to get out of India, which is an even smaller proportion of the smartest and/or most well-connected Indians.

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +1 / -0

And then in a couple generation when regression to the mean has occurred, wemwill be stuck with typical indians, not the overachievers.

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SendThemBackToCanada 2 points ago +4 / -2

More like they fail to communicate it since English is not their native language. It happens.

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Smilodoner 8 points ago +8 / -0

They tend to speak horrible English but think they speak it as well as Queen Elizabeth.

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operator1214 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh yes, yes that is true. Can't write all that well either, but think their papers are marvelous -- had a student take a failed paper to every prof they had on campus and asked if they would fail it, thereby challenging the grade. Fortunately for me, the paper was freaking trash, and thus I was spared too much of a headache. But I did have to go in and explain the grade to my boss.

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Smilodoner 1 point ago +1 / -0

And add to that, absolutely shameless. I cannot imagine being so brazen to do a such a thing.

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Berzerker_king 8 points ago +13 / -5

A lot of them have degrees not worth the ink and paper it is written on, but also a lot of them literally one in a million.

If you are looking at graduates from good universities, you are literally looking at 1 in ten thousand and such, in terms of mathematical intelligence. In India, the brightest minds do not aspire to be businessmen or lawyers, they go for engineering. If you look at the lower level universities, you are literally looking at the bottom of a billion pile. Admission into least desirable programmes in top universities require being 0.05 percentile or better. But then again, when you deal with the bottom of the barrel, you find people who are at the bottom of a pile one billion big.

Most of the people that you see in America are among the better ones.

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christianknight 9 points ago +10 / -1

Honestly degrees are all trash anyways.

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operator1214 4 points ago +4 / -0

Degrees from places like India or China are a level of trash that makes our trash degrees look golden. That's why it was such a joke when Chinese universities came in with those degree sharing programs: everyone in the know knew it meant American students would be "honored" with getting shit Chinese degrees while more Chinese students would be able to get into American programs.

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christianknight 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you could buy a degree for cash on the spot I wouldnt look down on it. Hopefully it degrades the education system further.

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Berzerker_king 1 point ago +3 / -2

Degrees, like all certificates, are worth as much as the one who issues them. They are as much worthless or as much useful as the issuing authority.

What do you think about driving permit or birth certificate? Are they of any use?

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christianknight 3 points ago +3 / -0

They have use to mark us like cattle.

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Berzerker_king -1 points ago +1 / -2

So you do not think it is a good idea to be able to tell when and where a person was born?

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Smilodoner 5 points ago +5 / -0

Why can't we look at our own intelligent Americans?

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Boogi2shoes 5 points ago +6 / -1

Because people like the "top post" in this thread are morons and think this is somehow a good thing for American society.

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Berzerker_king 0 points ago +2 / -2

For sure you can and you should. Nobody is arguing that you should not. The point being made here is that indians are not a burden on america.

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Cacciali_Via 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not due to welfare, but they are a burden when it comes to voting, failure to assimilate, culture etc.

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Berzerker_king 1 point ago +1 / -0

voting, failure to assimilate, culture

That would be a valid reason, I agree. But afaik, that is not the case. afaik, Indians who who get into owning business, become republicans and those who are working in white collar jobs lean leftists. they intermarry with americans after 1-2 generations and do not assert their culture or language in a way that would subvert american way of life. isn't it?

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BeefyBelisarius 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most of the people that you see in America are among the better ones.

On the other hand, there's a massive brain drain happening in India.

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Berzerker_king 1 point ago +2 / -1

It is true but that is not the whole picture. Many most of these people even if they would have stayed in India, India would have been unable to be gainfully employed.

One needs an ecosystem in education, in industry, in policy making, in a lot of things. India, for most part atleast, lacks the investment, the buying power, the university ecosystem and such.

Gradually, though, things are improving and they will keep improving.

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BeefyBelisarius 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not sure how things can improve when the best and the brightest keep leaving. And I honestly can't blame them for leaving.

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Berzerker_king 2 points ago +2 / -0

Things have been getting better. In my generation I'm able to see that very bright people are coming back and working in India, because now the standard of living has begun to become sufficiently high.

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quodvox 2 points ago +2 / -0

"a lot of them literally one in a million"

Well, there's like 1.4 billion of them altogether, which means they have at least 1400 'one in a millions'

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Berzerker_king 0 points ago +2 / -2

A one in million Indian is just as intelligent and valuable as a one in a million american, which makes him pretty damn valuable asset, no?

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ignorant_slob 7 points ago +11 / -4

The ones that speak better English than you do are great. The other ones try to ride the coat tails of the really smart ones.

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thepurge2020 12 points ago +14 / -2

Meh, no. Sorry. But just no. If we import all of India, this will be India, not America.

Magic dirt doesn't exist, and a country isn't determined by what language is spoken.

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Boogi2shoes 10 points ago +10 / -0

It blows my mind so many on TD.win view this as some "gotcha moment" against liberals when its their literal goal and destroying real America.

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thepurge2020 4 points ago +5 / -1

These milquetoasts are so busy virtue signalling about how good they are at obeying leftist dogma they don't even grasp that they're doing the communists' work for them.

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synd1050 2 points ago +2 / -0

Conservatives also virtue signal and many like to be “anti-racist”.

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freedomconnoisseur 1 point ago +3 / -2

It really isn't. The poor and middle class Indians just can't swim across a river and hop a fence to get here. Only the highest of high wage earners end up in America. The American salary is offset by having a full population. You can rightly bitch about H1B abuses, but if you just compared Americans and Indians in the same jobs, Americans would out earn them substantially.

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Boogi2shoes 2 points ago +3 / -1

You're heart is in the right place. But the real people in power have damaged what you understand as "real american culture"

And the fact you even welcome immigration is a testament to how big of a challenge ahead our society (real americans btw.) Faces ahead.

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quodvox 1 point ago +2 / -1

"Magic dirt doesn't exist, and a country isn't determined by what language is spoken."

I think we can attribute our standing in the world and our accomplishments as a country to our shared values and culture, which is why I'm so sad, disappointed, and angry at the Left's constant attempts to destroy it.

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DocOne 4 points ago +5 / -1

That's fair. I had a thermo professor who was Indian, former NASA propulsion specialist and one of my two favorite professors and it wasn't close. He was legit awesome and only left NASA to move with his wife who got a job out here somewhere. His English was accented of course, but barely and he was probably a legit genius. His initial schooling was in India but his masters and Ph.D were American.

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MidwestNorsk 7 points ago +9 / -2

Bribes and kickbacks produce all of their top graduates and place all of their top graduates.

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SnowflakeJuice 5 points ago +6 / -1

And some have degrees from fake U.S. universities. Although it is a massive problem in Australia, where many universities don't even have classes, just an office front

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DocOne 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's crazy. How does that work and how do companies not know? I get wanting to pay as little salary as possible but you'd think they need at least a base level of knowledge/ability.

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freedomconnoisseur 4 points ago +4 / -0

There is a pretty well established pipeline. I've interviewed an Indian candidate for a job over the phone and the dude that showed up for the job 100% wasn't the same person I talked to on the phone. Probably less of an issue now with zoom, but a decade ago, this happened quite a bit.

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OlDirtyBarrister 33 points ago +33 / -0 (edited)

How is pointing out that India is full of degree-mills racist? It’s a true statement.

Edit: also, I found the source of the data - the US census, which counts everyone present in the US, including visa holders. So the assertion that this is only Americans is incorrect.

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Buttfart88 14 points ago +15 / -1

You think people who live in poverty are concerned about failing students? Fuck no. They see giving them an A as a necessary act to escape India.

As a result, Indians get free high GPA degrees and then American companies use that as an excuse to hire people for way cheaper.

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OlDirtyBarrister 7 points ago +7 / -0

I know

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MidwestNorsk 7 points ago +7 / -0

Listen to any of them talk about other Indians who didn't have the money to pay the bribes and kickbacks. Or work in service industries.They literally hate each other.

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omegapede 3 points ago +3 / -0

And everybody wins... hey wait

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Hail_Milo 27 points ago +30 / -3

Found the guy thats never had to interact with large numbers of individuals from that group on a daily basis to yield project results.

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Hail_Milo 30 points ago +31 / -1

What are you even talking about you schizo lmfao

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 23 points ago +23 / -0

He keeps thinking we're racist against American citizens who are of Indian ethnicity when in fact the vast majority of people here are against H1B related mass migration.

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FragrantDude 4 points ago +4 / -0

Who was bitching? And where did a big building come into it? Are you sure you're replying to the right comment?

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BlackToof_Grin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok, not OP but I'll bite...

From the general tone and central theme of 'experience working with Indians, one might presume that OP is in a STEM field of some sort.

In your worldly experience, what constitutes a real job? You know, since apparently, something within that tiny inconsequential and totally lower-rung field that is STEM doesn't qualify?

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 19 points ago +19 / -0

Indian and other SE Asian Ph.D's will work for US undergrad money.

This statement is true. This has nothing to do with racism...

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NvJohansson 13 points ago +13 / -0 (edited)

In Canada their diplomas arent even recognized and end up being taxi drivers and pizza delivery guys.

They have to retake courses and repass specific exams. And I'm not talking about third world countries, this is also true for First World countries like France and England.

https://physiciansapply.ca/how-to-become-a-practising-physician-in-canada/

Older link, but same severe rules.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Opinion+Canada+shuts+door+Canadian+doctors+foreign+medical+schools/9714934/story.html

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MidwestNorsk 7 points ago +7 / -0

Canada protects their high value jobs.

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Randomroxks 3 points ago +3 / -0

Agree

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NvJohansson 16 points ago +17 / -1

Would you get heart surgery in Somalia? Neurosurgery in Azerbaijan? Hell, go read plastic surgery horror stories just from eastern Europe that people went through to save a few bucks. If you think saying some countries' school systems are inferior to others is racist, you're in for a rude awakening.

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MidwestNorsk 6 points ago +7 / -1

I went to Nairobi last year and had my schlong extended with Ace Hardware 30 year silicone. My tranny wife kind of likes it.

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quodvox 2 points ago +2 / -0

Barry? Is that you?

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raymond_windsor 0 points ago +1 / -1

Agree 100%

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Usernameicanrecall 16 points ago +16 / -0

Indians are all over tech jobs

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MidwestNorsk 14 points ago +14 / -0

Ask them to solve a problem by themselves then try to decipher their babbling as they purposely act like they don't understand what it is you're looking for... then never deliver.

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tacopizzapal 8 points ago +11 / -3

I have a good friend whose parents came from india and were shop keepers. He went to med school and is super successful. He was not imported. I know this is an anecdote, but all of these successful 'minorities' bust their ass to make sure their kids have a good life.

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PeaceThroughStrength 6 points ago +9 / -3

Same thing with my parents, and myself.

I also noticed that when my community would have get togethers, everyone else was fresh off the boat.

The population WAS imported and the imports generally don't have a sense of community with the broader US populace, and certainly would never vote conservative.

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Cacciali_Via 3 points ago +4 / -1

And if your anecdote was typical in India, it would not be the shit hole that it is.

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MidwestNorsk 1 point ago +2 / -1

Agree with that.

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SlipperyFire 5 points ago +5 / -0

It still stands that these "people of color" and doing really god damn well for themselves in a system that supposedly only exists to forward white supremacy. If the system was designed to up the white and down the brown, they wouldn't be making more than $40K a year even with their degrees.

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NvJohansson 3 points ago +5 / -2

But even in regular jobs like sales reps and store owners, they're willing to put in the extra hours.

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PeaceThroughStrength 4 points ago +6 / -2

Yup.

I do and I've seen most of my community do it too.

It's something which developed with the idea that we're initially guests here thus we have something to prove.

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MidwestNorsk 3 points ago +3 / -0

The entrepreneurs are not the graduates of their stem programs that's for sure.

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nachosamplerREBORN 3 points ago +5 / -2

Which was caused by a mass filtering process: you need to speak English and get selected to come to the US and/or if first 2nd work hard, but I suspect much of the Indian part is tech work. Point is your looking at the top 1-3 percent of Indians and other groups in these fields. Smart people marry a spouse that is equal or close to them and they usually have smart kids....people always want to think in groups but this is a subset. Compare the average US black to the average Indian, in India and you see totally different numbers. India still has true poverty - i.e., contaminated water, disease, starvation in rural sections...you don’t have that in the US.

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skumario 2 points ago +2 / -0

True, you have it only in cities like NYC, Chicago, Portland, Seattle, LA, and SFO. LOL.

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memewar_pepe 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yeah because their parents advised them to study for a real profession. I doubt many of them chose Gender Studies.

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Voat_Goat 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Philippines has the words best nursing school, and graduates make more in the US.

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PeaceThroughStrength 3 points ago +3 / -0

Of course they come here for the money. They're going to the Middle East rather than work in Makati Medical.

The Philippines doesn't have the world's best nursing school. That title unfortunately goes to John's Hopkins training school.

Also, for most Americans the concept of being a nurse is as a side-job because the work is unpleasant.

Talk to a US nurse and you'll get horror stories of having to wash obese peoples' junk while said obese people either say racist shit or sexually harass you.

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MidwestNorsk 0 points ago +1 / -1

Wonderful people and they all want a green card. Those programs provide that opportunity.

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Siorn 2 points ago +2 / -0

They are also a tight knit group like the jewish community. They stick up for each other and try to hire more indians

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BobDobalina -34 points ago +17 / -51

Are they Americans?

If they are, why are you attacking Americans?

If they're not, then why are you bringing them up when we're talking about "Indian-Americans" ?

I don't give a fuck where they come from, if they're here legally, and they're American citizens, I love them as Americans.

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PeaceThroughStrength 28 points ago +30 / -2

I'm not attacking them, I'm explaining the numbers.

Others are attacking, not me.

Chill Pede

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BobDobalina -26 points ago +7 / -33

Answer the question. If they're here, and are citizens, they're American citizens.

If they're hear on an H1B, they're indians, and wouldn't be counted in this.

I think you're misinformed.

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PeaceThroughStrength 21 points ago +24 / -3

You didn't ask a question, you made a statement.

I'm a fucking member of one of those populations.

Back the fuck off.

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BobDobalina -21 points ago +3 / -24

I did ask a question. I said, are they americans.

you said they were imported, so no, they're not Americans.

They're not even pertinent, you want to bitch about it but you're talking about something completely different.

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PeaceThroughStrength 13 points ago +14 / -1

Because immigrants are eventually granted citizenship. Thus they become imported first generation Americans.

It's totally pertinent.

You asked a question which you immediately followed up with an answer. Thus it's not a question but a statement.

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OlDirtyBarrister 10 points ago +10 / -0 (edited)

What is the source of this chart and how do you know visa holders were not counted?

Edit: actually I just found the source: it’s US census data which DOES NOT only count US citizens, despite OPs claims that this chart is ONLY AMERICANS. It’s not only Americans, so it is extremely likely that this data includes people here on visas.

OP should probably apologize to all the folks he called a dumbass or racist in here - there are quite a few.

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PeaceThroughStrength 5 points ago +5 / -0

Doing God's work Pede.

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YoYoYoWhatsGoinOn 1 point ago +1 / -0

Months back somebody had the great idea of adding a "source" link right next to

share save hide report block hide child comments

So an intelligent OP can share the source of their data rather than gotchas like this.

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quodvox 3 points ago +3 / -0

DOES NOT only count US citizens,

We can hope those days are soon at an end...

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Scroon 5 points ago +6 / -1

I'm "Asian-American" and a natural born citizen. While I don't agree with the overuse of these ethnic classifications, the terms do in fact apply to American citizens.

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PeaceThroughStrength 4 points ago +4 / -0

Same on all three counts.

The stats are old and these are hyper-parsed out to reflect the differences between different ethnic groups.

The visa issue which folks bring up is because the growth of the Asian population in the USA is not because of US raised individuals but because of imported workers who eventually got their citizenship.

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BobDobalina -10 points ago +3 / -13

Well that's what I'm saying though, everybody's complaining about those here on a Visa, but those people aren't included in the chart above, the chart above is talking about Americans, like you. Some natural born, some not.

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +2 / -1

My European ancestors helped create America and western civilization, so no. Not everyone is an American "just like me".

Your ancestors created precolonial India. Big yikes.

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Scroon 0 points ago +1 / -1

OH. I get what you mean now. Sorry, I was a little confused by the context. Looking back on the thread, I think everybody's actually on the same page.

We're all pro-Americans no matter the ethnic background. :)

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quodvox 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you're here in this forum, I think of you as American. Or, if you must, Amerian-Asian.

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Scroon 1 point ago +2 / -1

;) Appreciated. I love this country.

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Italians_Invented_2A 23 points ago +25 / -2

They probably vote 90%+ for the Demonrats trying to take your rights and your property away, but sure love them only because they have a piece of paper many of them don't even believe in.

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 18 points ago +18 / -0

Most arent even Americans.. they're here on H1B visas designed by big tech oligarchies with the sole purpose of depressing Americans wages...

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CantThinkOfUserName 10 points ago +10 / -0

Worked in tech and can confirm.

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BobDobalina -16 points ago +2 / -18

Then they wouldn't be counted, in this study, as Indian-Americans man. You're talking about some other racist shit you want to bitch about

"Yuh know whut really tix me off? Indians, god damn Indians! comin' over here adn takin' all dem Doctor Jobs!"

We're talking about American-Indians, do you have a problem with Americans making money?

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 0 points ago +5 / -5

If they came here legally to do a job which we have a huge shortage of that's a good thing. We do not have enough neurosurgeons in this country and we will inevitably need a few from outside. But there is an enormous amount of immigration abuse that goes on and that makes americans angry. We do not need to import every programmer in silicon valley from India. Why does that make sense? Does it make sense that we bring in foreign workers to censor our own people?

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Blacksunfun1 7 points ago +7 / -0 (edited)

No that fucks over our country. It keeps wages low. That is a horrible way to look at this. If there is a worker shortage then wages go up....this has keep wages down and inflation has skyrocketed.

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Cacciali_Via 3 points ago +3 / -0

We wouldn't even have a neurosurgeon shortage if we deported 30 million illegals, and sent home millions of unnecessary h1b workers.

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BobDobalina -8 points ago +3 / -11

You're talking about two different things, again. You are complaining about the H1B system.

The people that have an H1B visa are not counted in the graph above, because the graph above is only talking about "Indian AMERICANS" not Indians here on an H1B visa.

If someone is already an "Indian American" you will not find me bitching about how much money they make, sorry.

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BobDobalina -17 points ago +6 / -23

I love Americans, fuck off

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Italians_Invented_2A 13 points ago +15 / -2

You do realize that literally anyone who legally lives in the territory of the United States can apply for citizenship, yes?

Citizenship is meaningless when it's given to anyone, regardless of culture or ideology. Citizenship should be by blood only.

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BobDobalina -21 points ago +3 / -24

Yeah, that's how my ancestors got here, and yours too brother. Remember, the Italians invented the 2nd Amendment.

You cannot possibly be this fucking stupid.

Is there a cut off date or something where the Italians were allowed over, but now you don't want the Indians allowed over?

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DrCowboyPresident 14 points ago +14 / -0

Yes. Sorry, the civnat experiment failed. Each successive wave diluted us more and more, until we were weak enough to pass the 1965 Immigration Act of Doom.

It's a failure. Nations can't be built on vague ethereal ideals. Because they blow away with the wind.

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Italians_Invented_2A 5 points ago +7 / -2

It's not a cut-off date for entry, it's about having at least 1 or 2 generations behind you and inheriting what they built (and fought wars for).

You are going to accept your parents' inheritance I assume, and you'd be pissed if some random stranger walked into your house and wanted a piece, no?

Being a nationalist is simply looking at your country like you look at your family.

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russianbot4673 2 points ago +3 / -1

did your ancestors get sweetheart deals from the american government to give them a leg up on actual american citizens, allowing them to come here, get educated, and then get jobs, often replacing actual americans, and stay here long enough to then be granted citizenship? have you not heard of the cases where companies bring in tons of indians and then let go of their current staff and make them train their foreign replacements? those replacements can end up becoming citizens. it's like in your tiny mind that moment they become citizens negates all of the bullshit fuckery that led up to that moment. you're a fucking idiot. it's wholesale selling out and replacement of the native population for cheaper labor.

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skumario -1 points ago +1 / -2

Just wait when the mob goes after them. They'll be the first ones to flip red.

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 14 points ago +17 / -3

Most of them come here on H1B visas and depress our wages. They also work for those who censor us and try to influence elections for the left. GTFO with the virtue signalling. Nobody here is racist towards indians... in fact we all think it's good they work hard. Let them do that in their own country and let INDIA be great again.

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BobDobalina -7 points ago +5 / -12

Then why are they listed in the above statistics of "Indian Americans" ?

You're talking about two different things. I mentioned Indian Americans, you and others started with the "Muh Doctors" bullshit that is typical of the fake intellectual Steve Bannon/Tucker Carlson crowd

If they're here on a H1B visa, they're not Indian Americans. They're Indians.

This study is about Indian Americans, thank you very much have a good day

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 5 points ago +6 / -1

I was talking about Indians coming to the USA on a H1B visa and lowering OUR wages. That should be a huge concern to every American (and you if you are one)

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T_BigD1745 11 points ago +14 / -3

Keep signaling fag

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OlDirtyBarrister 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don’t think he’s signaling. Given how hard the dude is triggered, I’d say he might be Modi’s son.

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BobDobalina -16 points ago +4 / -20

It's weird you went right to thinking about my penis.

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T_BigD1745 14 points ago +16 / -2

Its weird that you think about penis after being called a homo

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nickybops 4 points ago +6 / -2

Top kek

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usausausa5000 7 points ago +7 / -0

Your virtue signaling doesn't work here. Birth-right citizenship needs to be repealed, btw.

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Kaarous 7 points ago +8 / -1

Are they Americans?

That's the question in the first place. Are they actually Americans who came here because they want to adopt our values and culture, or are they Indians here to take advantage of our stupid immigration system and national wealth and prosperity in comparison to the rathole they came from?

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thepurge2020 5 points ago +6 / -1

Judging by how they vote 90% left, the answer is obvious.

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thepurge2020 3 points ago +5 / -2

Are they Americans?

No, they aren't. A piece of paper and standing on the right dirt doesn't make you American for fuck's sake.

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BobDobalina -2 points ago +1 / -3

Being an American citizen does in fact make you American, and if you don't know that you've forgotten the whole plot, and will be part of the reason we lose the Presidency in 24.

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thepurge2020 3 points ago +4 / -1

We're going to lose the presidency in 2024 due to the exact people you're defending, because legal immigrants vote 90% left.

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russianbot4673 2 points ago +3 / -1

i'm sure there aren't any government assistance programs aiding them in coming here, getting the education, and then getting the jobs and citizenship. ever heard of H1Bs? you don't 'give a fuck' if they are getting an unfair advantage over actual americans who already lived here, grew up here, and don't get that kind of assistance? it's mother fucking bullshit is what that is. and it OBVIOUSLY accounts for those numbers being THAT skewed.

why is it that 20 years ago everyone said 'go to college for computers' and then it turned out that many of those entry level positions you could use to get into the various industries with those degrees were being given out to foreigners? and why are you apparently ok with that? fuck that. how about we stop bringing people over here to, yes, TAKE OUR JOBS? how about that? how about if instead of creating programs to give rude foreigners a leg up over our own people, we create programs to help our own people? how the fuck about that? you fucking moron. and yes the H1Bs do lead to them getting a path to citizenship. so what if they end up being granted citizenship and called an 'american'? they wouldn't have got that far without all the unfair assistance given to FOREIGNERS over actual AMERICANS.

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PepesCovfefe -4 points ago +10 / -14

Aren’t Indians usually based though?

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 21 points ago +21 / -0

I've never met a based Indian. Don't get me wrong they're regular people (at least they work hard and stay away from gangs and drugs) but they all vote Democrat.

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The_Yoyo 13 points ago +14 / -1

Hello based Indian here. Nice to meet you

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sr_bean -1 points ago +5 / -6

Can't call yourself based

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quodvox 3 points ago +3 / -0

It seems only polite to give him a chance to explain himself.

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BeefyBelisarius 0 points ago +2 / -2

Yeah, it's like giving yourself a nickname. Someone else has to say it first.

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Shivin302 7 points ago +8 / -1

Based Indian here in UC Berkeley. Part of the Berkeley College Republicans but you are right when you say a lot vote Democrat. However, a large amount of them are also rich and vote Republican solely for economy and taxes

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 8 points ago +8 / -0

College Republicans in Berkeley?? Have you gotten lynched yet?

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Shivin302 2 points ago +2 / -0

Our Ann Coulter event in 2019 had a whole protest outside

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Smilodoner 1 point ago +1 / -0

So there's a group of liberal Indians and a group of shamelessly self interested Indians.

But I'm being redundant.

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quodvox 2 points ago +2 / -0

All things being equal, I'll take shamelessly self interested Indians who vote for Trump over the other kind.

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Smilodoner 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'd take both out of the country.

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MidwestNorsk 7 points ago +7 / -0

Because all of their Idols in Silicon Valley are Democrat. They idolized and worship people like Bill Gates. I work with many of them and that's all they talk about.

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Joocystarbursts0316 2 points ago +5 / -3 (edited)

While I'll agree most Indians do vote Democrat, there are a lot more than you know that love Trumps strong stance on Islamic relations. That and Indians who have assimilated here (like my family and I) are strongly against H1-B visas that bring over so many fraudulent workers.

Also all minorities generally vote Democrat. According to you, white would be the only based race. You must understand, minorities are waking up. They have been playing the race card for years, its easy to see why minorities ate it up. They genuinely think Conservatives only cared about whites. I'll admit, long ago, i thought that too but Trumps 2016 run changed everything. Things are shifting in the minority community.

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Smilodoner 2 points ago +4 / -2

Sure they are

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quodvox 2 points ago +3 / -1

I don't get it. I think you and u/Joocystarbutsts0316 are on the same team? Why the negativity?

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Smilodoner 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's delusional. It's like people saying California will go red.

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Joocystarbursts0316 1 point ago +4 / -3

Ok im lying. God damn you're retarded lmfao

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Smilodoner 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're just delusional.

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PeaceThroughStrength 13 points ago +15 / -2

Depends.

The ones I've met are walking redpills. They'll tell you about what the Sepoys pulled off in the Himalayas against China and they're incredibly proud.

But if you watch the ones in the Project Veritas videos who work in the Pacific Northwest and they're rabid leftists just like that communist indian woman who opened up Seattle's townhall to be sacked by Antifa.

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Tommy_Patriot 15 points ago +16 / -1

Especially the Indian women that go to US colleges. Ugh, they are some of the worst.

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tombombadil 17 points ago +19 / -2

Pretty much all women who go to US colleges are the worst. Women are especially susceptible to the emotionally based arguments that colleges depend on. A lot of them snap out of the indoctrination by the time they have kids, but there a plenty who don’t. From what I have noticed, 22-27 year old college graduate women tend to be the most rabid leftists IMO. The guys that join them are just ugly dudes that think they will get laid if they do as they do.

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Isolated_Patriot 8 points ago +8 / -0

It's not just that they "tend to snap out of it," this is a dangerous thought process. The indoctrination and brainwashing has been accelerating year over year. Today's 22-27 yo women are far MORE brainwashed than the last batch.

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Totallynotthebanana 3 points ago +5 / -2

As a woman, the issue isn't the women in college, and it's not because we are susceptible to emotional arguments lmao, at least not the ones in STEM fields. Most of the women engineers are super based, it's the ones that go to fucking underwater basket weaving and expect to not be working minimum wage barista jobs that are the issue. Plenty of dudes who also are in the liberal arts or really any arts are super left. Tbh any degree that isn't stem should be nuked off the face of the earth or they should be fucking clear that you aren't gonna be making shit with it. (Looking at the literature degrees)

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stjimmy92 5 points ago +5 / -0

I majored in psychology, and one nice thing my college did was make everyone in the major take a class specifically about how shit your prospects for a job are after graduating, and how shit they pay would be, unless you got a Masters.

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SnowflakeJuice 3 points ago +5 / -2

I don't know, the political tendencies of the employees at tech companies says otheriwse

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +1 / -0

Any degree that isn't stem should be nuked?

I know lots of accounting / finance people who out earn IT people.

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SnowflakeJuice 4 points ago +6 / -2

Hating China does not make them redpilled. They hate China because they are a regional rival with territorial disputes. Much like Russia used to hate China, until they decided it was in their best interest to sit on the sidelines and let the West and China go after each other

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BeefyBelisarius 3 points ago +3 / -0

They'll tell you about what the Sepoys pulled off in the Himalayas against China and they're incredibly proud.

NGL, that was pretty badass. They were legit snapping necks up there.

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exoticastronaut246 2 points ago +2 / -0

That lady is nuts

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SnowflakeJuice 6 points ago +8 / -2

If they were all so based, why is their country a socialist shithole?

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quodvox -3 points ago +2 / -5

Probably because our H1B system has let the smartest ones come here for decades and let them neglect their own country.

Also, I'm sure there's a combination of legacy British rule, the backlash from that, and (584 kingdoms)[https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+kingdoms+in+india+before+independence] probably takes a while to re-integrate.

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Cacciali_Via 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh lord, dont get indians started on the british. They introduced them to toilets and the indians still resent it to this day.

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MidwestNorsk 3 points ago +3 / -0

They are based if they think it will get them a job in Silicon Valley otherwise no.

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quodvox 2 points ago +2 / -0

They are based if they think it will get them a job in Silicon Valley otherwise no.

I strongly disagree with this assertion. If you know anything about SV, you'd know the opposite is true. They'd have to at least play along with Leftism to survive in any of the big tech companies in SV

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thepurge2020 2 points ago +4 / -2

Fuck no. They vote 90% left.

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Smilodoner 1 point ago +2 / -1

Fuck no.

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Flipbarryfromreddit 0 points ago +3 / -3

Honestly the reason blacks are the lowest is Bc the gangsters are too stupid and lazy to contribute to society, earn a living and provide for their families. Then when they rise out of all of that like Tupac they thug out and get killed. You can take the man out the ghetto but you can’t take the ghetto out the man. Lmao

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BlackPillBot 1 point ago +1 / -0

IQ matters.

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quodvox -1 points ago +2 / -3

If you're trying to say that it's systemic low IQ among Blacks, I disagree.

A prime example is looking at the racial makeup of the BLM protests in most places. You can't tell me that's a bunch of High-IQ Whites.

Also, I think the evidence strongly supports it being a cultural and economic issue. IQ is never flat across populations, and I think we'd see much more of an evident bell-curve across the Black population even if they had lower IQ on average.

If that is not present, that's an indicator that even the smart & smarters ones are being held back by patronizing Democrats and their own culture which denigrates being successful and educated as 'talking white' and 'acting white'

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BlackPillBot 4 points ago +4 / -0 (edited)

“A prime example is looking at the racial makeup of the BLM protests in most places. You can't tell me that's a bunch of High-IQ Whites.“

Of course not, many of them are paid agitators just looking for some quick easy money, and I’m sure many of them are also low IQ fools, but I’m not sure what that has to do with average IQ across different races/ethnicities. It just comes off as coping and woke white simping IMHO. It also wasn’t white folks who committed the majority of the physical destruction and violence during the FentFloyd riots no matter what the media try’s to tell you. There’s a huge difference between people standing around and yelling and people destroying and attacking people, and that’s just the latest event in history. This shit has been going on for decades, and it isn’t just here where blacks continuously destroy things and turn the places they live into shitholes. You can deny reality, but it’s not going to change it.

Blacks commit between 80 and 90% of the mass shootings in this country no matter what the media tries to tell you. Also don’t forget that they make up between 12% and 13% of the population and most of the victims are black.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hwwSciRSAZ1B/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ws1EWUeVHaJw/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/ftuGqcnjG9b5/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/qiCZ4CEUVi1n/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/ymCU1WHY7laR/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/0iWevPc9pXiS/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/2QyuOpruW4mn/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/SEQEOSVIXbLA/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/7TEhJhfcl6Di/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/pNotLnlJmXld/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/cn3OQZpkjZYG/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/01wwyYcmcg4f/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/RuWmJWJ5lXpE/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/wpUO7SeuFNlb/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ud1FuwNwWnnQ/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZWzdj5sXvIh1/?list=plifQsMtVrA0&randomize=false

Most of the time the poor children don’t stand a chance from a very young age as you can see below. 😞

https://youtu.be/PlUqp2YnIP8

https://youtu.be/K7IbLbHy3rw

https://youtu.be/Tqhs9xDsopI

https://youtu.be/b_r_xPtuOm0

https://youtu.be/wvWrMlwgBK0

https://youtu.be/mei-mjg8xzc

https://youtu.be/lwRkrXdmoOA

https://youtu.be/DtLIsT0c6RQ

The large majority of the rioting, looting, and general destruction during the Floyd “protest” was done by blacks.

https://youtu.be/uRw2xGO-QkA

https://youtu.be/ajaqY2vd7fw

https://youtu.be/DOtwoD_t6Nc

https://youtu.be/lPnOY8TPEcM

https://youtu.be/uDZ9Zw6itKg

https://youtu.be/89y5-yjAakk

https://youtu.be/E4OYU73Ht0o

https://youtu.be/RurQXYePKBY

https://youtu.be/bOywglXbchI

https://youtu.be/j4Ck-Voys8Q

https://youtu.be/ebd_dKIg9Ck

https://youtu.be/SJGT06zIUiY

https://youtu.be/jQEOclZzEr4

https://youtu.be/SjledfvLXYw

https://youtu.be/5qHmdjvUTaw

https://youtu.be/ljS_W-pRxeA

https://youtu.be/eLKDXXZRYG0

https://youtu.be/1TRgucHzU0o

https://youtu.be/Wa1N1wvETbE

https://youtu.be/-RNy1ohIRlQ

https://youtu.be/IzYt2eYDnj8

https://youtu.be/0790lP0Mris

https://youtu.be/6preTw28GWE

https://youtu.be/5SGC7m-3mw8

Black hate crimes, violence, destuction and general “wylin out”

Also, I think the evidence strongly supports it being a cultural and economic issue.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1273444656047513601.html

https://files.catbox.moe/1wield.mp4

https://youtu.be/3IlA3LuR-YI

https://youtu.be/E3-xInG_-yY

https://youtu.be/T7MM6_22MZ0

https://youtu.be/X91JX_ulzKM

https://youtu.be/NVIL8QZQzDg

https://youtu.be/vRm_osJfomE

https://youtu.be/ACPdvckwMS0

https://youtu.be/ojrSpd04xWA

https://youtu.be/ksuhDS1SqUI

https://youtu.be/8wgNUMMptSE

https://youtu.be/yDpJ_r_9ELc

https://youtu.be/DfnOlcbvA6s

https://youtu.be/MpkPN90FvsY

https://youtu.be/BqFXquc4SsM

https://youtu.be/W991Fkx0oOY

https://youtu.be/vHyG3NwS6qA

https://youtu.be/vqo9jUvRroY

https://youtu.be/Xi0VG41JEnE

https://youtu.be/P4yZBap8C9k

https://youtu.be/DoCyiQeHfZg

https://youtu.be/J9k2diCF1Ow

https://youtu.be/n6pdizVVJ4c

https://youtu.be/h5eI0oEjLcE

https://youtu.be/JcuOqXvEB30

https://youtu.be/A0Pb5OKAm-U

https://youtu.be/Wovk0pXOUTs

https://youtu.be/5-eAr9h_jO0

https://youtu.be/fNkN1CGnVCc

https://youtu.be/xxqH6cBfGA0

https://youtu.be/OTAkWg_TSuI

https://youtu.be/6jfN1kXPiak

https://youtu.be/W7lsFkeORDk

https://youtu.be/GjdvoAywLPs

https://youtu.be/8rIVfVndUdM

https://youtu.be/dAPBB9IpYcs

https://youtu.be/ETTOs2kDX58

https://youtu.be/-0DfF_F3cgg

https://youtu.be/y7QkjrHmF18

https://youtu.be/w-FSTYPLzlc

https://youtu.be/DGRi4KMXgp0

https://youtu.be/xpa3MC5Orgw

https://youtu.be/y3wqVVQSSgk

https://youtu.be/V6_03_vXdRk

https://youtu.be/IsDXFR9zfDk

https://youtu.be/diNmLs3YfjQ

https://youtu.be/JEon4DNPVvc

https://youtu.be/NcWYccXM2K8

https://youtu.be/duPUkpt_ARk

https://youtu.be/Nv0gJMFqNNc

https://youtu.be/HBS01h1VbH0

https://youtu.be/tnuwOHjZYqQ

https://youtu.be/yGiqfy760vc

https://youtu.be/4Uln9cwUFOs

https://youtu.be/YMPhHrjRRkE

https://youtu.be/QJyJWkWReoQ

https://youtu.be/7mVyGZOtw2U

https://youtu.be/rnNydZQMRI8

https://youtu.be/aUZUGf_2Uow

https://youtu.be/Cuq_zD62G7Q

https://youtu.be/pbVXrEVtoQ0

https://youtu.be/oEZN8NIps70

https://youtu.be/owJdePxRnRs

https://youtu.be/nJpOGdrqcdg

https://youtu.be/0ZQU-eucINw

https://youtu.be/GZlLhxwG63o

https://youtu.be/P1TUXknSiyQ

https://youtu.be/xpl4p1W6VA8

https://youtu.be/hS0kJ0_9OB4

https://youtu.be/KW6sdpRIeCo

https://youtu.be/7ehLSWwKxrU

Black flash mobberies

https://youtu.be/r0csUi_QEk4

https://youtu.be/HX-CeN6W5Mg

https://youtu.be/jI_nvLLDRfA

https://youtu.be/pp-ol2W5HjY

https://youtu.be/w8kKrfpxC1w

https://youtu.be/aHf5T1pJ8GA

https://youtu.be/wepmrX9n1uw

https://youtu.be/CAGf3eijifY

https://youtu.be/aCrXDzVHxYo

https://youtu.be/GbAt9HeUBNA

https://youtu.be/tV3Mpmbd0lk

https://youtu.be/5ByihwTgMEQ

https://youtu.be/swAp2emrdBw

https://youtu.be/ISuF5Zv_CLY

https://youtu.be/aBaP-ObRixE

https://youtu.be/vKhKKUKunmw

Bonus from London.

https://youtu.be/f5PEYjvP094

https://youtu.be/j0HZ3Wt_ULw

https://youtu.be/rQpm5a4y5XE

https://youtu.be/W991Fkx0oOY

“the smart & smarters ones are being held back by patronizing Democrats and their own culture which denigrates being successful and educated as 'talking white' and 'acting white'“

You’re are agreeing with me and proving my point, and don’t even seem to know it.

People make up a culture. Many of the “smart and smarter ones“ you are referring to have and continue to vote for the democrats at a rate of over 90% every election while continuing to blame the “white” man, “the system“, and republicans and anything and anybody else they can to avoid accountability and taking personal responsibility for anything. That’s about as low IQ as you can get IMHO. We aren’t only talking about street folks here, we are talking about pillars and well “educated“ and powerful pillars of the black commune nye tays. Apparently you haven’t been paying very close attention or you are being willfully disingenuous, and I’m not sure why.

“Also, I think the evidence strongly supports it being a cultural and economic issue.“

I’ve already touched on the cultural aspect(people make up a culture), but as far as it being an economic issue, I really just have to enjoy a great big belly laugh. Dude, you are not living in reality. This is America in 2020 my friend. You’re going to have to come with some better victimhood bullshit than that next time. That poah poah black folks bullshit doesn’t work on me, because I know it is complete bullshit from first hand experience of living and working exclusively among blacks in a major democrat controlled shithole for decades.

This is the greatest first world country in existence and it’s not poverty that causes violent crime here, it’s violent crime that causes poverty, which mark my words, will once again be proven right by the recent violence and looting. Quit drinking the leftists koolaid brah.

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quodvox 1 point ago +2 / -1

I'm not claiming black people are 'victims' because of poverty, I'm saying that poor people everywhere do some shitty things. Correlation != causation. Don't confuse my argument with the Leftist "It's the economy keeping the poor Blacks down" I don't buy that bullshit. I've lived in majority-black neighborhoods and there are plenty of good decent people mingled with shitty trashy people.

But don't for a minute think Blacks have a monopoly on that. I've lived among some pretty shitty Chinese people and have observed shitty Koreans, Mexicans, Ethiopians, and pretty much every race, including so-called 'White' people.

My main distinction is that I don't think you can blame it on race. The fact that there are successful and productive black people all over the world negates the argument that as a race they're incapable of [civilization, civility, or whatever else].

living and working exclusively among blacks in a major democrat controlled shithole for decades

I think I see your problem there

And trust me, I've been to Portland and that is a majority-white city filled with shitty liberals and I'll take a city of Black conservatives any day over that.

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BlackPillBot 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

We disagree, and will never see eye to eye, and that’s fine, but I refuse to ignore and deny the basic survival instinct of pattern recognition and science in order to avoid looking racist. I’m done with all that bullshit. I’m also not just talking about our beautiful country, but the whole world. It’s blatantly obvious that all cultures, which are made up of the people who live and participate in them, are not created equal, and I know many don’t want to admit it, but this includes IQ among many other things. With all that said, that doesn’t mean I have any hate in my heart for anyone or look down upon anyone because of all of this. I want everyone to be successful as possible and to succeed in their endeavors no matter who they are. I just know that reality is a cruel harsh mofo, and this just is and will never be the case because we aren’t all born with equal ability, and that’s before nurture/environment really become more of a factor outside of the womb.

“But don't for a minute think Blacks have a monopoly on that. I've lived among some pretty shitty Chinese people and have observed shitty Koreans, Mexicans, Ethiopians, and pretty much every race, including so-called 'White' people.“

Yes they do, and it’s not even close. In fact, it’s actually tremendously disproportionate. 🤷🏼‍♂️

https://youtu.be/rtO6LUkWMRA

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +1 / -0

You sound intelligent so you understand statistical differences between population groups exist right? And how these averaged stats obviously dont apply to each individual in the group but are still valid?

So while the average black IQ in the us is 85, there are many above that including geniuses. The issue is that they are offset by the sheer volume of those with low IQs.

And yes, if you cherry picked only blacks with IQs over 100, they could certainly build some type of sucsessfull civilization. The problem is we cant sort them out, so the group regresses to the average which is 80 fucking 5! And no group with an average IQ of 85 has ever produced what I would call a civilization, in the history of mankind.

Your fantasy of a conservative all black city/country would still be without running water, electricity etc.

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TennesseePride 23 points ago +32 / -9

Or it might be that we have a shitload of Indian doctors that suck ass, but are cheap.

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fingerofkek 9 points ago +16 / -7

My Indian cardiologist rocks. Still feeling out my Indian gp.

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OlDirtyBarrister 11 points ago +11 / -0

Meanwhile, American med school graduates can’t get residency positions because we’ve allowed the mass importation of doctors.

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Berzerker_king -5 points ago +1 / -6

Hmm. What is wrong with fair competition? Dont the patients get benefit of having lots of good doctors? Indians do not come with a hidden agenda to break america. You dislike the idea of fair competition from a democratic free speech society?

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quodvox 7 points ago +7 / -0

I think the issue is that we're taking care of other countries before our own. If there are a limited number of residency positions and med school spots, we should really be taking care of our own citizens first. Highly qualified people are always welcome in this country, but it shouldn't be at the expense of our citizens.

If we've kept up high standards and no Americans meet them, then start looking t the most highly qualified foreign applicants.

This whole system went to hell when diversity became a goal rather than a natural byproduct of good policies across the board.

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Berzerker_king -2 points ago +2 / -4

I think the issue is that we're taking care of other countries before our own. This whole system went to hell when diversity became a goal rather than a natural byproduct of good policies across the board.

Yes, I fully agree with this, except that, in my opinion, america's problem does not stem from taking care of other countries rather than its own, but rather that there is an islamoleftist political ideology that actively seeks to break america in order to make a power grab, and for this they deliberately allow unfair trade from China and import islamists and socially harmful people from other countries rather than stopping such people. I mean ... America has been the foremost teacher of the principle that good faith, fair competition leads to growth, improvement, mutual benefit and mutual prosperity, no? Other countries learn that from America. The problem is that China is not a fair competitor, it does not compete in good faith. And these are not even unique things that I am saying. Doesn't the Trump say exactly the same things? Doesn't the Don himself say that he wants open market and free trade so long as it is fair competition? Don't you agree with the Don's approach on this?

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quodvox 2 points ago +2 / -0

america's problem does not stem from taking care of other countries rather than its own

I think more accurately, America's problem does not stem from only taking care of other countries rather than it's own.

It absolutely is a factor.

I don't disagree that we are for fair competition, but I don't think that extends to benefitting your citizens. We are a nation, and as such the first responsibility is to the nation's citizens. This does not have to be to the exclusion of all others, but merely that we are not fulfilling our responsbilities if we don't take care of our own citizens first.

Certainly an India or Chinese immigrant is welcome to attend medical school and then compete with American doctors, but it is no longer a fair competition if we exclude other qualified Americans in the name of diversity (or higher foreign student tuition).

The trade analogy would be if we stopped an American steel company from bidding on a project because "we need 10% Indian or Chinese steel suppliers" If the Americans are making garbage steel, then by all means, buy from whomever produces the highest quality. That is competition.

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Berzerker_king 1 point ago +1 / -0

Anyways, I am not arguing that America needs more Indians.

My principle argument is that the root cause of the problem needs to be understood properly, otherwise the medicine that is applied will ... either not be effective or have undesired side effects.

As a simple example ... US would do good to take in the Hong Kong dissidents who love america and want america style freedom and democracy as opposed to communism, even though they would compete for skilled jobs in the US.

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quodvox 2 points ago +2 / -0

My argument is neither for nor against Indians, it's categorically leaving medical positions unavailable to otherwise qualified Americans. I don't think that is an appropriate use of limited resources.

One easy answer is to increase the availability of those opportunities so that we can both satisfy domestic demand and still provide room for qualified immigrants.

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your thinking was the standard American thinking 60 years ago.

Since then, we have witnessed that thinking result in America going from a mostly homogenious 90% white christian nation to a multicultural mess in which white school children make up less than 50% and we are being discriminated against in our own nation.

You are arguing for civic nationalism as if it is an untested theory. The truth is, it has been tried in america and other European nations, and we have seen the resulting destruction.

Your theory has been disproved by the results of a 60 year experiment. None of your arguments hold any validity in light of the results that we all can see outside our windows.

There is no multicultural utopia.

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OlDirtyBarrister 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can spare me this lolbertarian nonsense. Labor is a resource just like anything else in a free market society. When the labor pool becomes artificially inflated by the government importing millions of workers, then the value of labor drops until the only people making any money are the ruling class - which is essentially the situation we have now.

I don’t know what kind of open-borders globalist shithole you’d like to have, but framing open borders as ‘competition’ is about the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard. If it’s just about ‘competition, then let’s just fling the doors open and absolutely saturate the labor market until the value of labor is zilch and everyone is a corporate slave living in a shipping container.

Fuck outta here with this dime store Ayn Rand horse shit.

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Berzerker_king -2 points ago +1 / -3

See, first of all, you cannot substitute stupid attempts at insult with a coherent rational argument. Secondly, if you wish to seek and search for truth you need to get over your ego and arrogance. Try to make a genuine attempt to dig out the truth rather than "win" arguments and "prevail over the other".

If your argument that a smaller labour pool is beneficial to a society is correct, then why not even divide the existing labour pool into smaller compartmentalized chunks? Stop the movement of labour between cities and states and with the even smaller labour pool, america would be even more rich and prosperous because the available labour pool will get even smaller. You don't do it because economically it doesn't make sense. You freely allow movement of labour between cities and states because economically it makes sense and also because socio politically you do not find any problem with that. Otherwise if smaller labour pool had been desirable for objective reasons, why have unified market inside the country in the first place?

The problem of immigration is socio political, not economic. People who think purely in terms of economics, are pro single global market. It is the people who think in terms of socio political sense who find faults with unrestricted immigration. Every labour is also a consumer and every consumer is also a labour.

And regarding "flinging the doors open" ... America indeed had its doors flung open so long as immigration was coming from Europe, and you yourself would agree that it was not a problem even though that also caused an enlargement of the labour pool. The irish and the italian immigrants who came to america didn't make america poorer, but rather made it richer in the long run.

Problem with immigration is not economic, and if you make that argument, you will lose on technical / logical grounds. Problem with immigration is sociopolitical in nature. You do not want the kind of people who break your society or change its values in ways that is unacceptable and that should be the criteria of restricting / allowing immigration. Don't make such economic arguments. You sound as if you do not have any problem with socialist strangulation of free market, but rather that your only problem is the immigration that you are experiencing.

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OlDirtyBarrister 2 points ago +2 / -0

This wall of text is wrong not only in logical terms but also historical terms and in terms of how you frame, or rather mis-frame (intentionally as is the logical-fallacist’s wont) my argument.

The problem of unchecked immigration is neither purely a sociological problem or economic problem, and I never claimed it was - as you well know. It’s clearly both and there are plenty of valid reasons in both spheres to keep the hoards out. Not the least of which is that the two are interdependent and neither can function without the other.

Your immigration history lacks any sort of context and clearly it is meant as an appeal to emotion since it is obviously not instructive in the least to compare immigration into an undeveloped nation to immigration into a well developed nation. These are two completely different states of being.

Finally, this idealist libertarian notion that labor should be free to flow around the world completely ignores inequities between nations that puts developed nations at a severe disadvantage and only serves to make the citizens of those nations poorer while enriching the ruling class. It is literally the road to serfdom for developed nations. Therefore, again, it is not instructive in the least to compare labor flow within a nation to labor flow between nations. A man with a Harvard degree moving from DC to LA with his 200k of debt in tow is hardly comparable to an Indian with a degree-mill piece of paper and zero debt moving from Mumbai to DC.

These globalist neocon arguments about the global economy are exactly what has decimated the middle class in The US since the 60’s, caused homelessness, suicide rates, and drug use to skyrocket, indebted our populace, and diminished our living standards. They belong on the scrap heap of history with all the Heritage Foundation rubes that dreamed them up. We have seen enough of the disastrous consequences of these policies. We know exactly where they lead and we ain’t goin’ back. America First is inevitable. Con Inc. can burn.

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TennesseePride 6 points ago +8 / -2

Some are great. Just like some Indians in IT are great. But that ain't the story on most of them.

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Boogi2shoes 3 points ago +4 / -1

I keep seeing "great indians in it"

I doubt anyone you or the plethora of comments here work in IT.

Indians here have fake degrees and cause work in which needs to be corrected and fixed by real Americans on a daily basis.

Actual people in IT joke about the constant need to fix the mistake of indians.

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TennesseePride 1 point ago +1 / -0

I absolutely work in IT and there are some that are great. I also said most aren't. I am fully aware of how terrible the average Indian IT worker in the US is.

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RegularAmerican -2 points ago +3 / -5

My dentist is really awesome and even his son is too. He's taking over his father's practice. Seem very family oriented people.

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tombombadil -4 points ago +1 / -5

There are tons in the psychiatry field (not psychology, that is the leftist infiltrated one). All of them that I have worked with are great.

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ImpeachTheWitchHunt 2 points ago +4 / -2

Whoa. Keep Tucker out your mouth, chip-on-the-shoulder-Indian-guy! 😂

Seriously, I’m joking, chill. In the end, we’re all Americans. Let’s uplift each other and help our fellow man. Be positive. Let’s rag on all the damn commies.

The American dream isn’t a static pie. The more we work and produce, the more we all have. Let’s try to lift all wages up. Not just our small “tribes”.

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OlDirtyBarrister 4 points ago +6 / -2

Dude is almost certainly Indian and is definitely triggered by America First.

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Boogi2shoes 0 points ago +2 / -2

This

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sancai -1 points ago +7 / -8

Why don't you become a doctor, then?

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Buttfart88 14 points ago +16 / -2

Because I’m not in India where universities literally print degrees?

Truthfully, I don’t even think Indian doctors are that bad. The issue is American universities force us to learn nonsense for 8+ years while Indian universities understand everything is learned on the job and just give free A’s in easy classes to help their students escape India and abuse American idiocy.

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Super_Comfortable 7 points ago +7 / -0

It makes no sense to have American students spend the time and money on an undergraduate degree. Have pre-med students take 2 years of classes then take an entrance exam for medical school seats.

The expense and length of schooling create a sort of class barrier to become a doctor.

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Buttfart88 8 points ago +8 / -0

Ding ding ding. All by design. It’s a class barrier designed to allow them to essentially purchase indentured servants via student loans.

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pyre2001 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's the same with lawyers. Get a 4-year degree in gender studies. Then pass the LSAT and get into law school. Pass the bar and you are now an activist lawyer.

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Berzerker_king 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is not true. There are good universities in india and bad universities too. Same as in america. Doesnt america have universities that teach bullshit and only focus on ideological nonsense like "ethnic maths" rather than true education.

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TennesseePride 6 points ago +6 / -0

I have no desire to be one, just like I don't want to be an accountant. But I damn sure know shitty doctors when I deal with them.

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Blacksunfun1 6 points ago +10 / -4

You can't get into med school in the US if you are white

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Super_Comfortable 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s harder if you’re American of Chinese or Indian descent. Bigger problem with medicine is the more left leaning doctors work for the universities and admit students who match their views.

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heretorock 19 points ago +20 / -1

Yeah, just ignore the rampant cultural nepotism that allows Indian managers the power to give a fellow Indian a $110k job, denying a white American the same job they would normally be paying at $150k. Indians love it, the company saves money and improves their "diversity score", government officials are happy with their kickbacks for allowing unfettered immigration.

Walk through the org charts of a large tech company and note the number of teams make up 99% of a single ethnicity (never white, of course).

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TennesseePride 8 points ago +8 / -0

People that don't deal with it daily have no idea how bad it really is.

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ignorant_slob 1 point ago +2 / -1

Some companies control this by having a core hiring team that enforces wider standards.

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Justhalftheshaft 18 points ago +19 / -1

Please kill me right now if the top thread on this post is celebrating our demographic replacement and celebrating replacing white American workers with cheap H1B laborers.

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thepurge2020 7 points ago +10 / -3

Civnats are such utter retards.

"These Muslim Somali child rapists came here legally and have a piece of paper, they're American too!"

No, they're fucking not.

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HuggableBear 12 points ago +12 / -0

Edit: the replies below just proved, that many in America still negatively judge Indians as soon as they see them, hey, it's an Indian guy, they're taking our jobs!

You're an idiot. H1-B abuse is 100% the reason for these stats and they absolutely are taking our jobs, legally and with the full authorization and blessing of the government because their lobbyists in Big Tech and Big Pharma want it that way to keep labor costs down.

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TennesseePride 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think the guy is an astroturfer, honestly.

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thepurge2020 6 points ago +7 / -1

Nah it's because H1Bs only hire other Indians, and corporations often put them into executive or lead positions, pay them $200-500k/yr then hire a white American citizen and pay that person $60k/yr to do all their work for them.

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Boogi2shoes 3 points ago +4 / -1

Never forget simply posting and going to .win isnt always enough. Sometimes they end up like the dude you responded too.. cheering unwittingly for the demise of real America and thinking H1B1 stealing jobs is a good thing.

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FullAutoFlintlock 2 points ago +2 / -0

yeah. every group has its retards.

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SnowflakeJuice 5 points ago +6 / -1

You know, there is actually a site setup where h1B visa holders can report their wages and incomes. The vast majority are Indian virtually all make over $100k some make over $300k, and they have preference in hiring over U.S. citizens.

Do I blame the Indians, no, why shouldn't they take the opportunity given to them. But I do blame the politicians who allowed U.S. citizens to be discriminated against for hiring in their own country.

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_soundwave_ 5 points ago +5 / -0

Indians also tend to have larger family units and emphasize staying at home longer while in school, etc. A big, present family structure keeps delinquency down. Emphasizing success, whether you are a truck driver or doctor, also helps.

I wonder what some of those demographic groups lower down the list lack.

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TrumpTrain425 5 points ago +5 / -0

You've....never lived on the west coast have you?

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buttfuckmebigfoot 4 points ago +4 / -0

We should ask Apu all of the racism he has faced, oh wait they exterminated him

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defaultuser42 3 points ago +3 / -0

They also lift each other up. Indian Americans are well known for providing loans to each other to start small businesses.

Erm I mean, nationalism bad. White people Evil, all men need to die! Please don't burn down my business BLM.

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Smilodoner 3 points ago +3 / -0

Imagine thinking you're a conservative and playing the hyphen game.

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Voat_Goat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Overtime may also be a factor. At every workplace I have been Indians volunteer for overtime as soon as it becomes available. It has something to do with the fear of wanting a nest egg out of fear of losing their income stream.

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PepesCovfefe 2 points ago +2 / -0

What year is this graph data from?

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PeaceThroughStrength 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's old and from Wikipedia last I checked in maybe 2015.

Data is from 2012 I believe.

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MapleBaconWaffles 1 point ago +1 / -0

I also wonder how much the fact that it's "household income" plays in to it. Indians probably have a considerably higher number of income earners per household on average.

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NoSteppy1776 -3 points ago +14 / -17

REEEE!!! It's not fair how many people in this country are doing better than me, a white man. Never mind the fact that this is the freest, fairest country in the world where anyone can work hard and succeed at building their dream. No, the only thing that matters is ME, ME, ME, ME!!! Gib me more free shit! I am oppressed!

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heretorock 18 points ago +19 / -1 (edited)

Try again shill. Our system is meant to benefit H1B, immigrants, and non-whites at the expense of whites. How many whites have benefited from EOE? Do you have any idea how many new grads can't find work because companies love the indentured servants they get through H1B and other similar programs?

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SendThemBackToCanada -7 points ago +1 / -8

Apparently we need more white immigrants and white H1B workers to replace Americans according to some of us. I guess that's fine.

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heretorock 8 points ago +8 / -0

That's smooth brain shit. Blacks have been here for how long? Over 400 years and they haven't been culturally assimilated into supporting American values. How can ANY other group of people migrate here and you expect them assimilate? Bring a white Australian family and there's a good chance they support anti 2A laws.

Net zero migration is the first step toward preserving the American and constitutional values you pretend to care about.

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Berzerker_king 3 points ago +3 / -0

Dont blame the blacks for not assimilating. White antifa are not doing any service to america either. Would you argue that even the whites have failed to assimilate because hillary is white biden is white, pelosi is white, all of the fucking antifa is white.

This is an ideological war. Dont try to reduce it to racial terms to seek confrontation on the basis of race.

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heretorock 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not blaming race. I'm blaming culture. Elitist control freak pedophile culture is not American, and the people you listed all deserve public beheadings. An individual can assimilate. A group of people will not, and that includes the large population of blacks who mock any of their own who dare assimilate and adopt American values.

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Berzerker_king 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, ... that makes sense. I misunderstood earlier. Happens with me. I am easy to confuse ... :P

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quodvox 2 points ago +2 / -0

Upvote for "smooth brain shit"

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Boogi2shoes 0 points ago +1 / -1

The world shall count the chilled years from the date, that the saxon began to hate.

Let morons like him do his thing. It strengthens true Americans in the end. Not who he thinks.

Those young people being robbed of the fruit of their forefathers sacrifice so that foreigners can reap the benefits will never forget.

Patience is a virtue.

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quodvox 1 point ago +1 / -0

Blacks have been here for how long? Over 400 years and they haven't been culturally assimilated into supporting American values.

I don't think this is accurate. Black Americans have died for their country from the Revolutionary War forward. If you look through the 1950s and early 60s despite what was real racism at that time, a large number of middle class Black Americans doing well.

Whether it was the Democrats, the CIA, Crack, absentee fathers or what, that culture changed and people became brainwashed to what you see today in large parts of the Black community.

But they're not all like that (not by far), and it does a disservice to our brothers and sisters in the Armed Forces and elsewhere who have laid down their lives for the principles that we stand for and the Stars and Stripes.

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heretorock 3 points ago +3 / -0

Depending how you look at it, your point is the same as mine. In the 1960s, the US was 85% white. We're at 70% now and predicted to be a minority by 2040. So in the 50s and 60s, other minorities were forced to assimilate with US culture.

How do you think a white minority will be treated in 2040? As cities burn and people are dying in the name of fictitious black oppression do we really think there's going to be a Come to Jesus moment where everybody lives in harmony? Get a good look at South Africa, because that's not far away.

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quodvox 2 points ago +3 / -1

How do you think a white minority will be treated in 2040?

Sadly, you don't have to look that far. 2020 tells you all you need to know.

I'm not decided on Net Zero migration, although when I think about it, I think we have a huge backlog of unassimilated immigrants already that we would be good to integrate before allowing more in. And that really cuts to the core of the arguments, I think: If we had a shared culture, language, and customs, it wouldn't matter how many immigrants we took in (subject to logistics and the aforementioned assimilation, and economics, of course). We would remain America. Having unfettered unassimilated immigration only serves to dilute our culture and makes us something that is...not America any longer.

The most unfortunate part to me is that even if you stopped immigration completely, this is still happening largely through the indoctrination provided by strongly left-leaning education at all levels.

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quodvox 0 points ago +1 / -1

And by 'Black Americans', I mean American Blacks, because we should all be judged as Americans first before even considering our ethnicity.

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Blacksunfun1 6 points ago +8 / -2

No its diversity that gets people into a lot of jobs as does preferential treatment in universities. Also these people displace American workers.

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Ask_If_Im_A_Cactus 6 points ago +8 / -2

How do you think I feel? Cacti aren’t even mentioned 😔 🌵

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Wazoo 4 points ago +6 / -2

Are you a cactus?

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FragrantDude 4 points ago +4 / -0

And of course OP doesn't respond, typical.

We demand answers to the cactus question!

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tombombadil 3 points ago +3 / -0

Can we not do that gay reddit shit here?

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quodvox 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dammit, cacti are gay now too?

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Boogi2shoes -1 points ago +0 / -1

Just like "nosteppy" never forget simply posting here doesn't automatically make you a patriot.

Much like Mrs.Steppy it also makes you a fucking ignorant moron cheering about stealing jobs from our youth.

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Imransgarage 1 point ago +1 / -0

Eating healthy lol.

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RicFlir 1 point ago +4 / -3

As a die-hard Trump supporter who also happens to be married to an Indian (although she identifies as Texan), I appreciate your comment!

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Boogi2shoes -2 points ago +4 / -6

Some men identify as females and vice versa.

Doesn't make it so.

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RicFlir 1 point ago +4 / -3

She was legally born in Texas after her parents immigrated to the U.S., so yeah dumbass, it actually does make it so.

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Boogi2shoes 1 point ago +3 / -2

It makes her so according to rewritten history -for now- sure ;)

But we all know what real Texans are. Just like we know who real British are. Just like we know who fought for America to exist.

But if you want to call your pet a Texan, have at it.

I'm guessing my incoming downvotes will validate your self delusion traitor.

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NativeNorCal 1 point ago +2 / -1

No doubt Indian-Americans get their bachelors in PreMed or Engineering, no gender or ethnic study degrees. Must be racism...or maybe marketable skills.

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CahalTheMad -1 points ago +3 / -4

I've many known many Indians, from school growing up and in the workplace, and I've never met even one who was trash. They've all been decent people.

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Cacciali_Via 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let me guess, you are not female?

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quodvox 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, with 1.4 billion of them, I can *guarantee there are a lot of them who are trash. They just haven't usually managed to get out of India.

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Boogi2shoes 1 point ago +3 / -2

Its disheartening such an ignorant post is top comment while having no knowledge of the why.

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Cacciali_Via 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mostly?

Those masses of hungry, dirty indians I see packed into city streets are mostly Trump supporters?

Bullshit, they simply filled a stadium with bodies for a photo-op.

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Midnight_Pede 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's great when all people can do well, it's not great to import people by the truckload into this country when the native population suffers.

We need to fix this country first, and elevate the people by doing so. Not import the so-called "best and brightest" from around the world, who then leaves their native country at a severe loss.

Watch the gumball presentation on immigration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCcFNL7EmwY

And remember, Americans never voted to give our country away. It was forced upon us in the 60's.

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ThisOneWillNotComply 0 points ago +1 / -1

Why is the most obviously correct answer not shown here? It's because of skilled labor immigration laws.

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DefaultFreedom 105 points ago +107 / -2

H1B visa...

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booblitchutz 52 points ago +52 / -0

Yeah the Indian population here, a TON of them are tech workers on H1B. Cut those visas and this number drops WAY down.

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ImFinallyNotAnAlt 32 points ago +33 / -1

What’s up with h1b and why do we allow this? As if we can’t get Americans to work the tech field and pay them more?

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 47 points ago +47 / -0

We allow this because big tech has the RINOS in the republican party and the democrats completely in their pocket. I've literally not heard a single republican outside POTUS and Stephen Miller talk about cutting H1Bs. Bunch of swamp rats.

As if we can’t get Americans to work the tech field and pay them more?

Google, facebook and twitter would rather import cheap foreign labour so they can widen the labour pool and depress wages. Also, they get to keep the H1B workers on a tight leash because as soon as they cancel their contract the visa goes too.

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knightofday 7 points ago +7 / -0

Correct on all points

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Shivin302 4 points ago +6 / -2

Half right. There is not enough talent in America to fill the roles, so the tech companies hire from abroad. However, a lot of them also hire them with loopholes for a basic job that they can underpay. I'm an Indian studying Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in UC Berkeley right now and have to compete in a lottery with undereducated Indians who bought their degrees to get these underpaid jobs

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Desert_Covfefe 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is plenty of talent in America. Corporations just love cheap labor.

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Cacciali_Via 2 points ago +2 / -0

What is best for Americans would be for 95% of you to be sent home. It would also probably be best for India.

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FuckIndianH1-Bs 0 points ago +1 / -1

Half right. There is not enough talent in America to fill the roles, so the tech companies hire from abroad.

Complete bullshit. Take your tribalism and get the fuck out. We don't want you here.

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 22 points ago +22 / -0

I just left a company that crammed tons of shitty H1B workers in. Seriously, the halls could be mistaken for Mumbai (I’m not joking). The emails and git comments were painful to try and decipher. Interestingly enough, when layoff times happened, it was seldom Indian H1B workers who got laid off - usually it was all the others who lost their jobs. The rule of thumb is, if you’re not Indian and your interviewers are, you’re probably not getting hired (even if you’re a woman trying to scam the women in tech push all companies are trying to get on with). Also, the caste system is alive and well and is shown to be a real thing when it comes to hiring practices.

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 16 points ago +16 / -0

when layoff times happened, it was seldom Indian H1B workers who got laid off

Can confirm that this happens on a regular basis. Big tech would rather employ people they have more control over than Americans. They hate us. They hate our guts. And they want to open our borders and have millions of people from the third world pour in so we can all fight for the scraps while the elites watch with amusement from their fancy offices in skyscrapers.

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knightofday 6 points ago +6 / -0

Absolutely dead accurate

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SendThemBackToCanada 4 points ago +4 / -0

I heard that they forced people to train the H1B workers replacing them. It's pretty fucked.

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MidwestNorsk 3 points ago +3 / -0

EXACTLY the same at my Fortune 30 corp.

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milktoastfencesitter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can you describe the type of work the indian workers were doing? What line of work?

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knightofday 3 points ago +3 / -0

Excellent explanation

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ignorant_slob 7 points ago +7 / -0

H1B should be auctioned to the highest salaries with a minimum of 300k. If you are really bringing the best and brightest, prove it by paying them like it.

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The_RedWolf 1 point ago +2 / -1

That’s my thing, we legitimately have a tech worker shortage but it’s being used to suppress wages for all workers so salaries are legitimately lower than they should be.

We need better enforcement on the requirements to post an H1B job

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HuggableBear 2 points ago +2 / -0

pay them more

Your answer is already inside your question.

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The_RedWolf 1 point ago +2 / -1

The theory behind H1B makes sense and even with a huge push into stem fields we still have a shortage (seriously go look at indeed)

The bigger issue I have is that they use the H1Bs to suppress wages within a shortage sector

If they didn’t try to scam the system tech workers would get paid even more

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Cacciali_Via 4 points ago +4 / -0

We have a tech shortage because wages are depressed due to cheap foreign labor.

I would not tell my kid to go into tech these days unless he was cream of the crop. Importing cheap workers, exporting jobs, etc.

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The_RedWolf 1 point ago +1 / -0

Part of it is the gap in ease of entry.

You either need an insane amount of self study or a degree to break into tech

There are more law degrees awarded each year than bachelors in computer science

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buzzly6 1 point ago +1 / -0

Obviously, in the multi national I recently left, they couldn't find a single homegrown wasp engineer to promote from within or hire from the outside.

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BobDobalina -4 points ago +8 / -12

This number is the number of "Indian Americans"

H1B visa holders are not "Indian Americans"...

They're Indians.

Keep watching tucker though, he'll get you to the promised land of the Lincoln Project soon enough

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heretorock 4 points ago +4 / -0

So you believe all H1Bs work here for a couple years then get sent back to their shithole? Wrong. H1B is very often just another way for a foreigner to get citizenship. There are a dozen ways an H1B can get a green card, and subsequently citizenship. Try again, shill.

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MidwestNorsk 5 points ago +5 / -0

They NEVER leave.

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booblitchutz 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’d love to see the data behind this info graphic.

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sancai -2 points ago +2 / -4

The economics does not work like that. High skilled immigrants, on average, create more new jobs than they take. The only real problem they cause is that immigration accelerates America's housing shortage, which is the worst in over regulated and taxed liberal states. It could be solved though by cutting down taxes and regulation.

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MidwestNorsk 3 points ago +3 / -0

No they don't. While I like all of them that I work with there has never been one that has ever shown one iota of an imagination or innovative ability. They may have software engineering degrees, but they're all modern-day bricklayers.

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milktoastfencesitter 0 points ago +1 / -1

We gotta separate the good H1Bs from the bad.

There are consulting firms that game the H1B system and cause a lot of problems for both the good H1Bs and for american workers. I think many of us on this site talk past one another because there are a couple of issues going on. Hope we can clarify the problems as the current system is messing things up for decent talented foreigners and Americans alike.

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 27 points ago +27 / -0

NO MORE H1B visas... I respect india and their prime minister seems like a good guy but H1Bs are KILLING tech sector jobs for AMERICAN GRADUATES

Stop the demographic displacement NOW.

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MidwestNorsk 5 points ago +6 / -1

And they import people who think there is nothing else in life BUT coding. Most of them couldn't change a flat tire on their car... or even recognize they have a flat.

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Toohershat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, legal immigrants. But I do agree that the law needs to change in order to encourage American companies to hire more US born tech workers. This will not only help American college students and young people, but it will encourage parents and school districts to put more emphasis on STEM education.

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try4gain 66 points ago +67 / -1

you mean I cant make 100k smoking blunts and playing call of duty?

dats racistssss.

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Grunge 30 points ago +30 / -0

Sure you can. Just become a professional athlete, drug dealer, or rapper.

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NoSteppy1776 17 points ago +17 / -0

If none of that works out, you can just join a peaceful protest and loot a 40-inch plasma screen TV and a $400 pair of sneakers from the local Target. You know, to solve racism. It's what St. Floyd would have wanted.

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MidwestNorsk 2 points ago +5 / -3

Elon Musk makes millions doing not much more.

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quodvox 50 points ago +50 / -0

Don't worry, further segregation is on the Leftists' list. They'll go through some mental contortions like "White people and also the less pigment challenged", or it will be something like "George Zimmerman, a White Indian-American..."

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MotorCycleTrump 13 points ago +13 / -0

Asians are their Wild Card.

When the stats show Asians as high earners, college degrees, etc they’re lumped into the “white” column. When the stats show discrimination/other negative trends about Asians they’re moved into the minority column. Whichever supports their narrative best in the specific scenario dictates their racial status.

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GreatNW 2 points ago +2 / -0

If they choose the right Indian person they could possibly even call them Aryan!

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azn_gay_conservative 47 points ago +47 / -0

imagine all that h1b wages going to average american..

h1b was meant to be for extraordinary skilled labor, like scientists or researcher. now it is used to replace high wage earner americans with "cheaper" oversea labor.

this is part of the reason why i chose civil engineering and not computer science in college. at least my profession cannot be outsourced or replaced by foreigner on a dime.

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 25 points ago +25 / -0

The H1B question is where the RINOs really show themselves. Not one republican senator speaks out about it despite millions of AMERICAN CS majors having their wages depressed because of this.

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Lu-Bu 15 points ago +15 / -0 (edited)

Globalism in a nutshell. Those at the top, on both sides, don't care about any of us. They will import as they see fit while denying us affordable college to get these jobs in the first place. We are competing with literally billions of foreigners. I don't blame those people in India or China for it, rather our own leaders who've abandoned their voters. Middle class citizens get screwed while foreign refugees get free college we must save 1/3 of our lives for.

This is where we should have reached out to the Bernie-wing of the DNC. Too bad they stopped caring about these issues and only concern themselves now with sucking corporate cock, getting that 4th lake house, washing the feet of black people, and advocating for weed & free money.

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knightofday 4 points ago +4 / -0

Preach

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Buttfart88 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree completely. I think this is a winning issue to win over the populist left. They must see that they could have great jobs and not need government hand outs if not for immigration and H1-B.

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 8 points ago +8 / -0

It’s much easier for Americans to get shitty contractor jobs nowadays. Said contractors tend to be pushed into roles such as validation technician even if they are an SWE. Those roles have salary/hourly caps. It’s bullshit when Sandeep is pulling in $180k/yr but Mike is making $50k for the same (or more) amount of work put in.

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HowdyModi 1 point ago +3 / -2

Highly doubt Sandeep and Mike are doing the same work in your example. If true, why not just hire Mike for less than 1/3 the cost? lol

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 2 points ago +2 / -0

Judging by Jira tasks and the fact that Sandeep is constantly in the courtyard playing volleyball, Mike is doing much more work.

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ThisOneWillNotComply 1 point ago +2 / -1

This is not true at all. In a population only a fraction end up in high focus tech like software and chip design. But USA disproportionately makes more tech than any other nation. We need 40x more engineers than we have right now. That's why we have so much trouble recruiting.

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Truthdose 8 points ago +8 / -0 (edited)

h1b was meant to be for extraordinary skilled labor

And that was okay...? To screw over grad students and other American geniuses?

Remember that "slippery slope" argument that conservatives always make...?

it is used to replace high wage earner americans with "cheaper" oversea labor.

As if anyone didn't see that coming.

at least my profession cannot be outsourced or replaced by foreigner on a dime ...yet.

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HuggableBear 2 points ago +2 / -0

h1b was meant to be for extraordinary skilled labor

And that was okay...? To screw over grad students and other American geniuses?

No, the idea was that in those extraordinary fields, there weren't enough people in America that could do it at all and we should provide a pathway to poach the absolute very best the rest of the world has to offer.

In some fields, it's a great idea. It's how you get the next Einstein working for you instead of his home country.

In practice, all it did was give gigantic corporations a way to cut labor costs and fuck over Americans at all skill levels.

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Truthdose 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, the idea was that in those extraordinary fields, there weren't enough people in America that could do it at all and we should provide a pathway to poach the absolute very best the rest of the world has to offer.

"Accept me accept my dog"

This thought is what opened the door to this runaway immigration and corporate monopolies screwing over the average american and student.

In some fields, it's a great idea. It's how you get the next Einstein working for you instead of his home country.

Poaching the talent from other countries seems like a good idea...until they bring their problems. And Einstein came over as an asylee anyway.

In practice, all it did was give gigantic corporations a way to cut labor costs and fuck over Americans at all skill levels.

Which was predictable...the government and corporations ALWAYS do this kind of thing when posing legislation(especially favorable legislation)

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CleanLivingKing 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah I'm wondering where I go as comp sci. Maybe something in the DoD or at a military contractor, somewhere where they want real Americans with singular citizenship.

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heelsawyer 34 points ago +34 / -0

you've found the true source of racism in Silicon Valley.

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Anaconda 25 points ago +27 / -2

yup i don't get why we all of a sudden are now a fan of H1Bs and big tech with his low-energy post

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never thought I'd give this guy an upvote. Weird.

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 18 points ago +18 / -0

I find it amazing how people from India control the discourse in this country. The internet is todays public square. Cancel all H1Bs and deport all the cesors!

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knightofday 5 points ago +5 / -0

It is wild as fuck when you step back and look at it

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The_Yoyo 33 points ago +35 / -2

I am Indian American and I absolutely hate H1Bs. I work in a specific field of technology operations and H1Bs have not only made it harder to get a good job but also driven down wages. Not to mention their bogus certificates and degrees which warp any HR dept sense of what's actually needed. I immediately hang up now on any recruiter who asks me what my resident status and if I need sponsorship. Not all Indians in tech are here on visas moron. The good thing is that it does let me know who to block because they'll looking for companies that want to over work and under pay. Most Indian Americans go into the medical or law field which results in their higher earnings.

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Anaconda 17 points ago +30 / -13

so now we are loving H1Bs from india that steal our jobs with fake 'bachelors degrees'?

i've seen everything now

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dontUseVinegerAsLube 14 points ago +15 / -1

That's not what the post is saying. It's saying that the whole "systemic racism" argument is bullshit when Indians and Asians are the most successful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

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Master_Wyatt_Gurp 10 points ago +10 / -0

In some cities this is certainly true. However, in hometown America, this is not true. Real America is still there.

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LaymanLeathers 5 points ago +5 / -0

Aye where my fellow small town gang at?

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Buttfart88 3 points ago +3 / -0

An internalized holiday inn is a fitting way to describe a corpatocracy.

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Boogi2shoes 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sounds like you need to get out more tbh

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remember1776 2 points ago +5 / -3 (edited)

agree. this is not the first time i've seen him (her?) post something moronic.

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Npc-1776 1 point ago +2 / -1

Parse this one again champ....H1Bs stealing jobs are underpaid and often unqualified. Kept on as ... indentured labor for the holding companies. They don't impact the "average" income the same way because companies don't wish to pay appropriate costs for those. Oh well. Fair competition, Fair pay, fair jobs. The import-tariffs should apply on all resources.

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FormerGraveheart 0 points ago +1 / -1

First time I've ever been tempted to upvote Anaconda.

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Mavdick96 12 points ago +12 / -0

Asian Pedes are hard fucking workers.

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DeltaTango 6 points ago +6 / -0

Two curved hallow fangs...

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TrumpPower 12 points ago +12 / -0

Indians hire their own. They don’t hire whites or blacks or anyone else besides other Indians. I’ve experienced and seen this first hand many times in the tech industry.

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fazzman23 10 points ago +10 / -0

link? jews should be 1st

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heretorock 12 points ago +12 / -0

You mean the group that makes up 2-3% of US population yet comprises 25% of Harvard students, and 48% of the billionaires? Wow, you really shouldn't say anything bad about them. We have laws against that.

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horatius_defending 9 points ago +10 / -1

There seems to be a group conspicuously missing from the list.

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free-money- 8 points ago +9 / -1

That's what all the [Deleted] posts above are about, you're not allowed to say that here

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Kaboola 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well now I'm curious... Can I get a hint?

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free-money- 5 points ago +5 / -0

It's a category George Soros might fit into.

The awful thing is that the good, conservative ones in said category are the ones who inevitably take the heat for their psychopathic, leftist/globalist brethren's actions.

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Kaboola 1 point ago +1 / -0

Which?

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AwakeAwareNow 9 points ago +10 / -1

Where's Jewish-Americans

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Boogi2shoes 4 points ago +4 / -0

You think we're allowed to see the gap between them and indians?

It makes the gap between indians and African americans look like a kids show.

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CS212 8 points ago +8 / -0

It's because of the great tech replacement.

H1Bs are a scam against the American worker. It's disgusting.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens-make-up-nearly-three-quarters-of-silicon-valley-tech-workforce-report-says/

Of course, they become citizens eventually.. I believe they are actually fast tracked.

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spaceghost17 8 points ago +8 / -0

End the H1B Visa program! These are jobs Americans would be doing instead of foreigners that just take their money with them back to their countries.

fact

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zettapede 7 points ago +7 / -0

Even the woke Wikipedia police haven't had time to censor this information yet.

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DeltaTango 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ha, they group everyone in Asia into "Asian", yet then split it up on another table into over a dozen other ethnicities. Why?

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DinsdalePiranha 7 points ago +7 / -0

They forgot Native Americans at $44,772, except for some places like Pine Ridge, where the median household income is $2,600 - $3,500 per year. That's where the government "takes care of you."

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crazyrosco2099 1 point ago +2 / -1

Everyone always forgets about those damn injuns 😂

I need to marry into one of those wealthy Indian families in Palm Springs or San Diego.

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ModsBanPaleos 7 points ago +7 / -0

Indians get into HR in big companies then only hire their indian friends. Fact.

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Skull_Wax 6 points ago +6 / -0

What the fuck is the “Average American” ?

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Junfatboi 8 points ago +8 / -0

It just means the median income of an American regardless of race.

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Skull_Wax 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ooh - thanks - I’m not much for book learnin. I just thought maybe it was a way of saying “white people” twice

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DivineLordTrump 6 points ago +7 / -1

Fun fact, Indian immigrants still practice caste system in America.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 5 points ago +5 / -0

I’m a bit shocked by this chart, but I do know more than a few Indians who own and operate hotels, gas stations, and restaurants. They work their ass off and set themselves and entire family up for success. I know a few families who single handedly run an entire motel between the husband, wife, a few kids, little to no staff other than maybe a night desk clerk and a few cleaning ladies. They often live there too for many years until saving up money to pay off the business and buy a house. I still believe all this shit going on will end up creating HUGE opportunities for people who don’t mind working hard. Keep getting b.s. degrees and waiting on your rich parent’s inheritance continuing to consume. It could be the greatest wealth transfer to diligent, hard working Americans.

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Theyreallinonit 5 points ago +5 / -0

to be honest we actually should, everything our forefathers built and created all these oppurtunities were for their descendants to become better intellectually, physically and morally, now this has been given to everyone else because the deep state want to lower wages to raise their profits.

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3rdtry 4 points ago +4 / -0

They're taking tech jobs on H1B's. Should probably be $150k otherwise.

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ignorant_slob 3 points ago +4 / -1

There is literally a 3X pay difference between a low wage H1B and a new Stanford/MIT grad. You won’t even see them working at the same company. The Stanford kid works on self driving cars and might get 225k total compensation and the low end H1B might make 80k while tweaking a web form.

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BigPedeEnergy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Jews and Nigerians also have higher than avg incomes. Those damn black white supremecists

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Randomroxks 4 points ago +4 / -0

Where do Jewish group fit ?

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T_BigD1745 4 points ago +6 / -2

This is just what merit based immigration looks like. If we only import the educated and well off immigrants, those groups should be more successful than average.

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Boogi2shoes 5 points ago +6 / -1 (edited)

Actually no this is what H1B1 looks like when we bring people over seas for demographic replacement who have literal fake bachelors degrees.

Then jobs that americans are more than qualified for are given to them because "no american wants to do the job"

Edit: Downvote me all you want loser, not everyone likes the truth lol

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Trump2052 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm all for ending the H1B Visa's it's one of the few things Trump hasn't delivered on. So many US tech jobs taken by foreigners, because it's too expensive to train and pay us workers.

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MikeVicksAstrologist 4 points ago +4 / -0

Joe Biden says: "who woulda thought, ya know, that these Indian seven eleven owners had so much money. Corn pop says they should give it to the black kids, because they are just as smart as the white kids. Y'know when I was with the roaches. Candy corn. Walruses. That's it! We can make it better than great! We just need more gun laws!"

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ModelMinority 4 points ago +5 / -1

Makes a lot of sense. Asians and whites are also the highest in terms of test scores at the Ivy University I went to. The people helping to cause grade inflation because the college can't afford to lose them to fill out their statistics: Hispanic and African Americans.

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nowrongwrong 4 points ago +4 / -0

Grew up white in an ultra-wealthy "Golden Ghetto" that was 80% Asian.

Every friend I had in school it was like their Mom was a Doctor, Dad was a Lawyer, or Dad was a Doctor, Mom was a Lawyer, or Mom and Dad were both Doctors, or both Lawyers. Most of those parents were immigrants. So yes, can confirm, they put a big emphasis on working towards for the highest paying jobs.

Lucky for my friends, once Bill Gates became the richest man in the world, it became acceptable for them to pursue careers in computers rather than having to follow in Mom or Dad's footsteps.

Also, learned to always remember to take your shoes off at the door or get yelled by a scary old grandparent from the old country.

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Passerby 4 points ago +4 / -0

Filipino nurses representing.

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morningpancakes 3 points ago +3 / -0

Now break down "White Americans" into each ethnic group.

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Seanp12 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why are all the Asians split into individual national origins but black, white, and Hispanic are three groups all to themselves?

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timetogetrealnow 3 points ago +3 / -0

Percentage of Indian-Americans with authentic degrees = 30%

Percentage of Chinese-Americans with degrees that cheated = 98%

Stereotypes?? Maybe.

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NO_RINOs 3 points ago +3 / -0

Techlead said that asians working in tech out in California are screwed either way:

  1. Come to America working a low-wage tech job to get your wife and kids out of your shithole (China, India etc.). Stay locked in your bonded labor job via H-1B.

  2. Watch as your kids get discriminated against when they apply for college because of Asian quotas. Columbia and Harvard used to have those on Jews. Can't have too much meritocracy in America!

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MocksFordComma 3 points ago +3 / -0

Boys, I think we found the next wave of spies.

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McFatty7 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not all bachelor's degrees will get you a high salary.

Cutting H-1Bs will cut that Indian salary way, wayyy down.

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cameljockey 3 points ago +3 / -0

You are either American or not. All these qualifiers are bullshit.

Work hard, be honest and face reality. That is how you get to the top of the chart provided by the OP.

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Pumpingiron_Patriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Indian American here....

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Deaf_MAGA_Pede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yup and of course, I'm having a hard time getting a job in the Info. Tech. industry because of way too many Indians taking up the majority of the jobs. Not even surprised if most of them are on a H1B visa program.

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86commies1776 3 points ago +4 / -1 (edited)

Seeing that the FOUNDING RACE of this country which was built by and for those of White European ancestry only have an average of $59,900/year while literally people who were never supposed to be here are doubling that a year.

If this doesn’t make you sick, I don’t know what else will. Imagine chinese in china not even being in the top 5 earners of their own country. Fucking pathetic.

Bunch of fucking commies and muzzies at the top with H1Bs. Disgusting.

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Isthisusedtoo 3 points ago +4 / -1

When the main demographic that started a country isn’t at the top of a list like this in their own country......immigration needs to stop.

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fwesh 3 points ago +3 / -0

Now lets see the chart showing Ethnic groups & Welfare

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Flptplt 3 points ago +3 / -0

There are far too many Indians in the United States. We need to cut down on that immigration group drastically.

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MrBen23 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'd be very interested to see actual African-Americans, like Nigerians, added to the list as well as other Black-Americans like those from the West Indies, Jamaican-Americans, Bahamas, Haitians, etc.

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Oldspeak 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nice graphic. To get many people to trust it, please footnote it with the sources for its data.

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DonaldTrumpTill2024 2 points ago +2 / -0

But but but...muh minorities are oppressed!

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socrates2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Geographic Location plays a huge part. In this if those high income immigrant groups live in NYC or Bay area that alone means their real wages arent really as high.

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negiasu 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm surprised only 46% of Japanese-Americans have a Bachelor's degree

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cara_c 2 points ago +2 / -0

OK, now do it by average IQ.

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Shitsbrokeyo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Euro and Anglo decent need not apply.

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memewar_pepe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Imagine a society so progressive, that the within a decade out of the 20% poorest, more people will be part of the 20% richest than will remain among the 20% poorest.

The society I speak of is the United States of America.

Antifa are nothing more than the lazy ungratefull privileged-born rage-quiters of Capitalism.

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SFWarrior 2 points ago +2 / -0

Taiwan #3! that's us...but i'm literally $70k+ over Indian Americans...curve has gotta be higher by now lol.

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callaway86 2 points ago +3 / -1

Should out to my Filipinos!

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Sixty2ndAssassin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Question, how do I know if I qualify for the White or the Average American category? Am both White and average.

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UtahBeach 2 points ago +2 / -0

Companies using H1Bs to steal tech sector jobs from home grown americans and artifically surpress the wages of the rest.

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skumario 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

Gross stats. Americans with a college degree at 28%. A large part of this is due to the prohibitively expensive and often meaningless college degrees in the US. A public university like UT Dallas costs you 60K for a college degree. Let that sink in.

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BigIgloo 5 points ago +5 / -0

And all the Indians earning over $100k in Dallas are H1B visas supplanting local coders.

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Alphabravo0011 0 points ago +3 / -3

Mate, there’s not a single white American in STEM who needs a job that can’t find one. Huge need for STEM resources companies will hire anything that can code/dev/admin

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BigIgloo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Train American, hire American. More opportunities for citizens first.

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PepesCovfefe 2 points ago +2 / -0

What year is this graph data from?

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Sting 2 points ago +2 / -0

When Nepal is kicking your ass? That’s your fault.

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Barthaneous 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bro, When my wife was still professionally babysiting and tutoring she once tutored this Indian families kids and got less than $20 an hour. She asked for a raise and they said no. One day as she was cleaning their home yes she did that as well as cooked she saw his paycheck which had the end of year amount on it. Bum had made over $230,000 for the year and his wife was a doctor so probably another $120,000 on top of that. And they refused to pay her $20 an hour.

Some cultures are good at taking care of their own but man oh man are they in love of money. So sad that to be in such mind-set literally means you will not enter heaven.

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Kbing007 2 points ago +3 / -1

Posted this comment on another post today, but it's even more relevant on this one,

Wanna talk about "systematic rascism", and "not having an even playing field" BLM crazies? Indian immigrants are some of the most successful people in this country. They work hard. They assimilated into American society. They proudly fly the flag of their new home. They appreciate their multi-generational family architecture, many run small business, and guess what? How long do you think theyve been doing that? Alot less time than blacks have been "suppressed by THE MAN" post slavery

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Overlord 2 points ago +2 / -0

Source?

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MAGA16062015 2 points ago +2 / -0

Of course theirs is the highest when they have 15 fucking people living under the same roof!

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Houdini 2 points ago +2 / -0

White people, especially men have to deal with a lot of stigmatization in society even in their own homes.

Many of us are born into feminist home where we're being treated like shit from the get go, there's a reason why we're not doing well.

Every single group is being favored over us often including by our own parents.

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Cacciali_Via 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why should I, as a white American whose ancestors helped found this nation, have to choose between a black or Indian neighbor?

Respectfully, how about you both leave this place and return to your own people?

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +1 / -0

I commented on your hypothetical situation. I should not have to chose between a black or Indian neighbor.

Did you mean rhetorical? Perhaps you confused hypothetical and rhetorical. Easy mistake for low IQ people.

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nice copy paste. You are still wrong.

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righttowolfarms 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol why am I not surprised by this (coming from a business owning Filipino family with lots of Sikh friends)

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bubblefarts 2 points ago +2 / -0

Great post. I’ve made the same point to many liberal friends and they legit have no response. “Why did white people build a system that favors Asians? Do we hate ourselves? Do we love Asians?”

LOTS of comments missing the point.

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Top-Secret-KGB-Agent 2 points ago +2 / -0

Black people as a group are last place at everything but sports and crime. As this chart shows, racism clearly has nothing to do with it.

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MostlyHarmless 2 points ago +2 / -0

<——- one of the Mexican Americans earning a little more than Indian American average.

I’m trying to get those numbers up my fellow Goyamaniacs.

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drsowells1fan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Graduate high school and don't have kids until after you're married. How fucking hard is that?

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Smilodoner 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree; too many immigrants.

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TaggartCiscontinenta 2 points ago +2 / -0

I like how when you take Indian and add Islam (Pakistan) your value decreases 34.1%

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trumpizkewl 2 points ago +2 / -0

torch the IT departments!!!! 🔥🔥🔥👍

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teacheryteach 2 points ago +2 / -0

And this is good for America because ......

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Greatest_adventure 2 points ago +2 / -0

Source would help, please.

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Usernameicanrecall 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't see numbers for Irish Americans. Or German Americans. Or Slavic Americans. Why does everyone else get their own groups?

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MAGANYficent 2 points ago +2 / -0

Gen X IT Exec here for Fortune 500 company.

I have worked with and hired all ethnic groups of tech workers during my career.

I can say without a doubt that the Indian-American workers I hired into my teams knew their stuff (even if they had a degree from India.) You, as a manager and/or team leader, have to weed out the bullshit artists during the interview stages and team peer review stages in the hiring process. Bullshit artists exist in ALL ethnic groups.

For Indian-American workers, the only thing that I would say is make sure you don't get someone who is fixated on the caste system in any way. That will mess up the team cohesion quickly. I had one new hire early on in my career and they were gone within two months due to their prima donna bullshit.

I make it clear to all team members that competence and delivery are what allows you to succeed within my organization. I have been fair in that regard and fortunate that people want to join my organization for that specific reason.

If you can deliver and work effectively within the team, I could care less what ethnic group you come from, your sex, your orientation, etc.

Your capabilities, work ethic, and willingness to work on a team will determine your value in the workplace. This applies to every job I have ever had and organization that I have ever lead.

Great workers exist in ALL ethnic groups. So do shit ones. Execs and managers need to do their jobs and make an environment that the former want to stay in, while giving opportunities for the latter to get with the program or find work elsewhere. It's a business - on