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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 51 points ago +52 / -1

Yep. Every time the working class pays for the mistake and bad decisions of others.
I guess we are not all in this together

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 19 points ago +20 / -1

Exactly

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sunwolf87 13 points ago +14 / -1

This. Trump hasn't taken a paycheck his entire term.

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CantThinkOfUserName 41 points ago +43 / -2

And teachers are leading the efforts to keep the schools closed because they are essentially on an extended paid vacation.

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2SmoothGQ 23 points ago +24 / -1

Yeap. Seen so many teachers screeching about ThE cHiLdRen on Facebook but it comes down to being paid to do nothing.

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Analmanlebron 17 points ago +18 / -1

we should abolish teacher unions

kids overall aren't affected from wuhan virus. these teachers are just lazy and want to do their commie anti-American indoctrination over zoom

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2SmoothGQ 4 points ago +5 / -1

I am in a union and can’t stand them. I have good benefits and get treated well but it also incentivizes people to be lazy. I work hard because I love and respect my work. Not everyone is like that and it protects those people more than me.

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Calico_fox 4 points ago +4 / -0

They only exist because of a Executive Order signed by JFK. (it was one of his campaign promises)

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2KEK_Chigurh 15 points ago +21 / -6

In all honesty teachers in most public schools don’t do anything normally but babysit kids part of the day. Discipline is no longer allowed, learning is not allowed, testing is not allowed. So paying for the “teachers” to sit at home and not indoctrinate children about being victims and about social “injustices” is probably the best outcome. We can still use the money to send all the kids trophies for being “in this together”

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Mexicola1976 13 points ago +14 / -1

They do a lot of testing in Texas.

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2KEK_Chigurh 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah my statement (as with most things I do) came out very absolutist. I think the discussion shows the beauty of American diversity. There are certainly communities and educators that get it right out there in spite of it all. I’d be willing to bet 95% that get it right are in red state or red communities. I’m in a shithole state in a blue capital and basically public schools suck here state wide.

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Quartersawnwhiteoak2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Truancy is not enforced in Fort Worth (DFW).

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physicscat 3 points ago +10 / -7

You haven't a clue what it's like to be a teacher.

I discipline my students, they learn, and we test waaaay more then we should, IMO.

Most schools outside of inner cities have hard working teachers who work way more hours than they are paid.

Before you bitch about us, do our job for a week.

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2KEK_Chigurh 6 points ago +8 / -2

I am a firm believer that if it weren’t so spoiled by government BS, unions and corruption, teachers could easily be paid way more to do exactly what you are describing, actually caring. Teaching inside our public School system drives those that care insane because a real teachers job is never done, yet you get to watch those around you succeed by not giving a crap because of tenure rules and union protections. It’s a thankless job. It takes a passion most don’t have. It’s exceptionally hard in places where family lives are destroyed, then you become the surrogate parent. I get your frustrations.

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physicscat 10 points ago +10 / -0

There are no teacher unions in Georgia.

Tenure is just fair dismissal. After 3 years, if admins want to fire you, they have to have documentation you're a bad teacher if it isn't for code of conduct issues, etc..

That is needed. Nepotism and cronyism is alive and well.

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2KEK_Chigurh 6 points ago +6 / -0

Tip of the hat to the physics pede. I come to .win not to learn, but certainly to get my mind right. Thanks for keeping it honest.

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Tpgsr 2 points ago +3 / -1

We did it for a few months while doing our own jobs too...

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physicscat 2 points ago +3 / -1

No, you need a class of 25-30 to get the real experience. Parents who believe their child never lies so you must be when they have behavior issues.

Teaching your own child is not the same as others.

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Quartersawnwhiteoak2 0 points ago +1 / -1

Inner city schools also have hard working teachers that have classrooms full of kids that cannot be disciplined. The suburbs are the same. The kids are not disciplined because that would be racist, and make the district look bad to families thinking about moving there. Small towns also employee shit teachers. You do you in your bubble. There is a big world outside of it. Defunding law enforcement, and education is what municipalities are going to do because they cannot pay what they owe due too the covid 19 hoax/ 2020 election tantrum. Tax payers already paid. Are paycuts on the table for the elected officials that drove the car off the cliff?

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 10 points ago +10 / -0

Thinking the exact same thing here. I pay into the rural fire department because I know they're the only Fire/EMS around for a lot of miles, and they are highly responsive to the public they serve. I pay into the sheriff and jail because they are also highly responsive and actually work towards the (largely rural) county's overall betterment.

Normally I'd say the same about the schools. The rural school district does avoid the SJW bullshit as much as possible (except for whatever the Democratic People's Republic of Oregon mandates). They are however talking about opening up this year, so...

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fthecoup 3 points ago +4 / -1

How come they aren’t furloughed?

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2KEK_Chigurh 40 points ago +40 / -0

Now is the time to dissect property taxes from education. This needs to go back to the drawing board because what we have doesn’t work.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 17 points ago +17 / -0

It’s one big government bondoogkle !!

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Rage 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's a tough nut to crack. A large part of the reason many neighborhoods are considered "good" is because of the school system there.

The school system in a city is good in part because of the increased budget provided by the higher taxes on the higher home values.

It's one big circular system. If you centrally funded all schools in a state, for example, it could have dramatic downstream effects on home values and school funding and resultant school quality.

That said, I am of the firm belief that real estate taxes are unconstitutional and anathema to our founding values. Taxes should not be collected this way, and people should never have their property taken from them for not paying taxes on their home.

R/E taxes essentially provide the legal framework to cancel the 4th and 5th amendments. You never truly own land in the US, you only rent it from the government. That is communism.

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Hereforagoodtime 31 points ago +31 / -0

I'm in the middle of this... My wife is a teacher, they want her to teach in class and teach those online. It has been a disaster getting guidelines from the district on how to do this. We bought a new computer because they only gave her an old Chromebook that was completely insufficient for her to teach on the last couple of months.

If they don't come up with an all or none plan she's going to opt out of her contract. Also, what the fuck do my kids do if they do the hybrid system? Sit at home on their days off and be trusted to log in and do their work day in and out? Fuck, they're kids, they can't teach this shit too themselves.

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2KEK_Chigurh 22 points ago +22 / -0

It’s been strange. I know sincere teachers that are getting screwed by this hybrid shit just like you say. It’s double duty for the same pay. Where I’m at didn’t let them finish last year because online was unfair to those that wouldn’t have access to computers. Teachers literally got paid to sit at home. A cottage industry of private tutoring has blossomed. The entire child care aspect is baffling because feminism murdered the middle class stay at home mom decades ago.

On the flip side, I think the ample sleep my kids have gotten is allowing their brains to grow in spite of “educational” losses. Behavior has been at its best. If it’s like anything else the government touches, I think I can get my kids to learn the basics at home in 1/10th of the time they use at school without all the distractions, but who is going to go do my job Hahahaha.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was a dismal failure for my first grade grandson. His parents are going to hold him back because of it.

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SquidThrowFaux 1 point ago +3 / -2

got paid to sit at home

From a job they already only showed up to 190 days out of the year.

The same teachers that bitch about students with learning gaps and lower grades not teaching students what they needed...are bitching now. Go figure.

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letsgogogo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah I'm quickly losing my sympathy and support for teachers. You see those teachers saying they teach BLM in the class?

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magaspif 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not to mention all of the families that have two working parents, or a single parent who works. What are we supposed to do, kick down a few extra thou a month for daycare on top of what we are paying for taxes?

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sunwolf87 2 points ago +7 / -5

I taught myself shit as a kid all the time. WITHOUT COMPUTERS. It can be done, but it starts with the parents. Might I suggest holding them accountable and, oh i dunno, MAKING THEM DO THEIR WORK? They learn their habits from their parents...

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Hereforagoodtime 6 points ago +8 / -2

I'm fully aware how to parent my kids. They are exceptionally responsible and smarter than I was at their age. However, they are supposed to sit at home 2-3 days per week and teach themselves new material while my wife and I work all day?

I'll take your advice though... Seems fucking solid, do that shit on your own kids! I didn't have internet when I was growing up, figure out that Pythagorean theory on your own and I swear if you don't understand that fucking biology lab without help I'm gonna beat your ass!

Fuck off, you've missed the point.

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White 2 points ago +2 / -0

I homeschooled myself for a couple years. It's called accountability. Never was I beat. I wanted to learn, and taught myself with the homeschool books. I got rewarded.

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sunwolf87 1 point ago +1 / -0

I didn't say make them do it all by themselves, NOW who's misunderstanding? Did I say "Tell your kids to figure it out themselves if they ask for help"? No! I only meant give them space to learn.

Also just how much of the curriculum do you actually know? How in touch are you with what is being pushed in said curriculum? It's MY experience, with children and adults alike, the best environment to learn in is one where they have room to learn but can count on you to help them when needed as well as hold them accountable to do the work. I couldn't count how many times me and my brother had to get ourselves up for school in the morning, and we came home to an empty house so we'd fix some food and sit down and do our homework before our parents got home.

Not everyone grew up in a home where one of the parents could stay home with us and still be able to feed us. They both had to work A LOT to make ends meet. Yet there was still a lot of love in our house.

It CAN be done. It comes down to freedom of choice. All that said I should have worded what I said better as it wasn't directed at you personally. If I offended you I'm sorry. All the best.

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slangin_paint 24 points ago +24 / -0

I am not going to pay taxes because I feel like that will help stop the spread.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

Great idea

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slangin_paint 12 points ago +12 / -0

the science is settled

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

Great News!

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Quartersawnwhiteoak2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Chyna sold alot of computers, and software because of covid 19.

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makemyday007 15 points ago +15 / -0

Oh my god the teachers on Facebook crying about going back to work while posting photos of themselves running around all over town at beaches and restaurants. I have no problem if they don’t want to go back to work, just quit!

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

I have no problem if they don’t want to go back to work, just quit!

Yep

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Pede3 5 points ago +5 / -0

It wouldn't be a huge problem if some teachers quit. There are plenty of recent grads that wanted to teach but could never get their foot in the door. In addition, there are plenty of available candidates who are looking for a second career after their primary was taken over by outsourcing and liberal use of H1Bs.

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TrumpsGlassOfWater 14 points ago +15 / -1

Can we write up a letter to write to our reps and twitter copy/paste messages to get this going out to our reps and in the public sphere?

We need to start attacking the Democrats idiotic plans in ways which they do not see coming.

We need to start demanding we not pay property taxes until the schools open up. This will defund the communist teachers unions, take government tax dollars away, help out people, etc...

Fuck these communists and fuck their god damn fear mongering

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knightofday 3 points ago +3 / -0

excellent idea!

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45squared 14 points ago +14 / -0

I saw this comment on FB in regards to some school system wanting to delay school opening:

It’s not the responsibility of teachers to put their health and lives on the line so that parents can continue making a living. (I say this as a working parent who is not a teacher.) We cannot make teachers bare the weight of our society’s inability to provide parents with economic assistance and safe childcare during this difficult time. It is the government’s responsibility to take care of its people, not teachers’ responsibility to sacrifice themselves because of the government’s unwillingness to do so.

So I say to this person, like the parents that forego a paycheck when they don’t work, will these teachers forego a paycheck as well!!!?? I’d love an extra $550 dollars a month in saved property taxes!

PS no, it most certainly is NOT the government’s responsibility to take care of “its” people!! It is the governments job to not infringe on our rights (Or let others infringe on our rights) so that we have the freedom to make a living and care for ourselves!! These people would probably prefer the government wipe their asses too because they are so f’ing helpless!

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

PS no, it most certainly is NOT the government’s responsibility to take care of “its” people!! It is the governments job to not infringe on our rights (Or let others infringe on our rights) so that we have the freedom to make a living and care for ourselves!!

Yep. AND that right there is why the Leftist hate America , The Constitution And Individual Rights. Especially the 2nd Amendment AND Personal Property Rights.

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45squared 5 points ago +5 / -0

It really is disturbing!!

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spuger 3 points ago +3 / -0

You bear weight, you dont bare weight. Make sure yo correct this guy, it will drive him nuts.

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physicscat 3 points ago +3 / -0

I filled out a school survey today saying open school on time. I'm ready to get back to work. I want in class teaching. Virtual teaching sucks.

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physicscat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Glad I live in Georgia.

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physicscat 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am done with Reddit except for cat subs.

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physicscat 1 point ago +2 / -1

Then we need cat subs here.

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Get-schlonged 5 points ago +5 / -0

Still pay for the part that funds your police and firemen

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BumpForTrump 5 points ago +5 / -0

Property taxes should be abolished, period. 100%. Zilch.

What fucking commie implemented that bullshit anyways?

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Modus_Pwninz 3 points ago +4 / -1

No! In fact, they'll increase them due to muh budget shortfalls which they caused.

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MAGAmom4 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you do, do I get backpay as a homeschool mom? LOL

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol. I’m sure your family appreciates everything you do !!!

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Destineed369 3 points ago +3 / -0

What about all the state lottery money that supposedly goes to education. Did they do away with that?

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

The lottery money is gone! Spent on who know what ???

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JoeBob 3 points ago +3 / -0

YES!!! I've been pushing this for two weeks now. "Property taxes" may not be the correct term. In my area, they are separate "school taxes" to the school district that you live in since in my area, school districts are not the same as city and county boundaries.

MAGA!!!

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OhLollyLollyPop 3 points ago +3 / -0

Teachers and Administrators are still getting paid.

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magamayhem 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

I lose track of how many taxes I have to pay now. Especially local ones. Thanks, liberal mayors, now fuck off.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

How the fuck is that a privilege?

It’s a privilege to PAY!!!

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momosinthedojo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Many people thinking the same. My wife and I discussed if a tax strike were feasible. There is no way to practically implement this while still paying your mortgage and insurance. It's all wrapped up together in escrow.

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YourDaddyKnowsBest [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

The middle class tax payer. Gets stuck with everyone else’s bad decisions!!!

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physicscat 2 points ago +3 / -1

Most school systems I know are working on virtual options.

I am converting all my documents, lessons, and activities to a virtual platform.

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Zadok 0 points ago +1 / -1

May I pay 'virtual' taxes with 'virtual' money.

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