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Coslin 316 points ago +320 / -4

The way it should be. If someone chooses to wear their mask, so be it. No harm, no foul. But don't mandate it on the populace when the data is so erratic that it's 100% political at this point.

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CisSiberianOrchestra [S] 197 points ago +201 / -4

There hasn't been a single study proving that masks stop the spread of the virus. Not one. It's all just "evidence suggests."

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MegoThor 149 points ago +151 / -2

Evidence familiar with the virus’ thinking...

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slickrock 74 points ago +75 / -1

GA governor, Kemp showing Texas governor how to be a patriot.

Will Texans notice?

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LurkNoMore 41 points ago +42 / -1

Abbott tried to stand against them, but couldn’t.

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KekistanPM 36 points ago +37 / -1

The blue is very strong in Texas, but Abbott should have kept fighting. It's never to late for him to come around though.

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LurkNoMore 15 points ago +18 / -3

I agree. I’d have a beer with him any day. My post was an underhanded, below-the-belt suckerpunch. I’m pissed about the mandate, and he’s in a wheelchair. I deserve any downvoted I get ;)

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SpaceForceMilitia 11 points ago +11 / -0

Nah bro. Like him or no. No shame in holding your own responsible for their decisions. And don't let someones disability dissuade you from doing so.

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motoford 8 points ago +8 / -0

Mods - can you look to see who is downvoting these posts above and just ban the shills now and save the trouble they will make later ?

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AdmrlNelson 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeah he's done alright until now. Wish he'd have pushed back against them but maybe he'll come around.

You know how he ended up in the chair? A tree fell on him while jogging. What are the odds of that?

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CQVFEFE 3 points ago +3 / -0

There's a delete button in case you ever want to remove an errant post

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booblitchutz 8 points ago +8 / -0

Abbott isn't fighting. He is trying to play both sides. Someone is telling him he can be the "Purple Governor" of Texas.

But the democrats will NEVER vote for him and now the conservatives don't trust him. Whoever is advising Abbott is a fucking moron!

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Reev_Jax 22 points ago +23 / -1

Yeah, cater to the people who are not going to vote for you while pissing off the people who would have, that's a fucking Republican strategy if ever I heard one.

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LurkNoMore 14 points ago +15 / -1

Lol. Never thought of it that way. You’re right, that’s the quintessential R logic right up to GOETUS.

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NotoriousCIC 9 points ago +11 / -2

That’s the Republican way. But don’t you worry, we will win blacks over and Latinos will totally come around. You can reason with the SJW left by citing job reports and tax reform. Lol

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booblitchutz 4 points ago +4 / -0

Typical old school republican bullshit. Content to sit in the back seat and bitch.

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Block_Helen 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don't know if he's catering to the left. I think he got genuinely spooked by the numbers and doesn't have good advisors who can show him what's really happening.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 6 points ago +6 / -0

I've been in many leadership positions. It was my job to have the best advisors. To vet them. To make them earn my trust. It's a huge blunder for any leader to have bad advisors.

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coachQanon19 13 points ago +13 / -0

WTF happened to TX???? It used to be a hardcore RED state.

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LurkNoMore 15 points ago +15 / -0

We all joke about how many Californians moved here in the last 20 years, but it isn’t a small number.

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mechdork 6 points ago +6 / -0

I worked with a guy who moved to Dallas from LA to get away from their shit, then moved from Dallas to Ft Worth because he said Dallas was even worse! Now he's looking into moving to Denton but you can only live so far away unless you want to commute three hours a day ..

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booblitchutz 3 points ago +3 / -0

All the Californians I know living in my neighborhood in TX are pretty based, actually. The most lefty bitch I have met in my neighborhood grew up in Houston.

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notwithboeing 9 points ago +9 / -0

In part, the border wall system came too late.

(Do NOT read this as my opposition to the wall - I am a strong supporter.)

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bill_in_texas 3 points ago +3 / -0

LOL, ouch!

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 2 points ago +2 / -0

Underrated joke of the year! 😝

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Kanime1224 20 points ago +20 / -0

Oh we have notice. If he pulls a lockdown on Texas (he's dangling that over our heads) he will definitely have me in Austin protesting that shit.

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LurkNoMore 14 points ago +14 / -0

I’ll join you.

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Kanime1224 14 points ago +14 / -0

Thank you fellow pede. I'm sick of this. I had to put the beginning of my life on hiatus for this shit. And right when I was hoping the job market would recoup he hits us with the mask mandate causing chaos in my job field (I went to college for a safety managment degree)

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LurkNoMore 9 points ago +9 / -0

Had three stores in the Dallas area. Down to one and it’ll definitely be closed if they shut down again. I don’t think they understand the level of desperation they’re going to push us into.

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DobyCrotchtangle 2 points ago +2 / -0

hashtag me too.

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N7fury 3 points ago +3 / -0

I will join. If he tries another lockdown, I will 100% protest.

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ZincOS 4 points ago +4 / -0

No. Or yes. Some will, Some won't.

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Block_Helen 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm noticing.

I support Abbott strongly but he needs to sack up.

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gotrumpwin 2 points ago +4 / -2

So I know I'm gong to get a lot of hate, but I also posted on another one of these threads about masks and I'm going to stick to my guns here - Question first: If they had proof that if everyone wore a mask when in public, we'd kick this in 1 month do you think everyone would do it? I think if we had evidence people still wouldn't wear them - even if it the fastest way to get the economy back to normal. I'm not saying there is proof that masks work - but just wondering where ya'll stand? I'm in the camp that knows its real because I had symptoms, tested positive, got over it - so I know it is real, and I have heard it is deadly to some (mostly old people). My symptoms were basically like the flu but shittier than any flu I've had. So I am sure this virus is real and I'm sure it spreads easier than the flu, cause I got it and wasn't around anyone that appeared sick. Since it spreads easier it is more deadly. I want to go back to work, but we're furloughed. I want to go back to my favorite bar, but can't - even with a mask. Now I hear from my doc that it is possible to catch it again. I don't like being told what to do either, but I think the masks may be something to try. I don't think the COVID gave a fuck that I voted for Trump when I got it - so I don't know how it is political - maybe the mask thing is getting politicized, but hell, I'm willing to try whatever it takes to get my life back to what it was last year

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SPEZ_CUPS_CCP_BALLS 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think if there WAS proof that masks helped no everybody wouldnt wear them because the media would say the exact opposite and would report that masks are not necessary.

Just like they did with the HC + Zinc treatment. They shouldve been pushing that shit like crazy. But they did nothing but lie about it....and people still believe the lying media.

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gotrumpwin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Going to propose this - why not all of us try - not because anyone is telling us to, but because we want life to get back to normal and we want the economy to get moving again? If this virus only lasts 2 weeks - and everyone wears a mask for 4 weeks as a test then we can find out if the masks work. If it doesn't then we say fuck the masks, got any other ideas? I am going with what i know - surgeons wear masks when they are cutting on you so they don't infect you, not so you don't infect them. Like I said I know COVID is real cause I've had it, and I know it is more deadly than the flu - cause it spreads faster and easier than the flu. I want to get my life back to normal. If a mask does the trick, I'm going to try it.

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Klown_Kutz -1 points ago +3 / -4

The anti mask hysteria was strongly pushed very early on by Chinese and Russian propagandists on social media. Think about it. China let this virus loose on us for a reason. To hurt us and to hurt the President who is actually tough on them. They do not want us to work together as Americans and beat it. They want us fighting each other instead of them and their bio weapon. So they played on the fact that people are very selfish and entitled. They won.

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gotrumpwin 2 points ago +3 / -1 (edited)

You may be onto something here - let more Americans die and keep it chaotic and maybe they can get more solid footing so they can eventually take us over. I know people can be swayed by propaganda - hell look at the fake news. My thoughts on the masks are: surgeons wear masks not to protect themselves from catching something but so they don't infect an open wound. And the mask thing has been all over the place - first it was masks can make it worse, then if you don't wear a mask you can spread... but I think I'm sticking with what I know - masks stop doctors from giving patients something they may have and not know. When doctors are afraid of catching something from a patient, they don't put on a mask - they put on that hazmat shit. I know a lot of the folks here hate that some states (mine did) have mandated masks, but I am taking the stance I'm wearing one so I can get back to work - call me a sheep or a pussy all you want, but if I can get back to normal by doing it, I'm going to try - why not try shit to get us back to normal? If we can get everyone on board and it works then all is good - if it doesn't at least we gave it a shot.

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SPEZ_CUPS_CCP_BALLS 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

The reason that they did shift to the mask was because of Chinese propaganda (see the WHO, who has been wrong on just about anything and continues to change its position). Also the WP and NYTs, who have lied to Americans on everything, continue to push

There is no way we beat this thing by wearing cloth masks as a society. Cloth masks do absolutely nothing.

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Highfyingcrow 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are effective at stopping droplets from being expelled considerable distances.

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Homopratensis2 71 points ago +71 / -0

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

In 10 randomized clinical trials no evidence could be found that surgical masks prevent the transmission of influenza like viruses in the general population.

This is why they cannot be labeled as effective and carry a warning like not for medical use. It would be making a fraudulent medical claim and FDA would come down on it.

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AlphaNathan 45 points ago +46 / -1

Why bother with an absence of evidence conclusion? Take it further:

Cloth masks resulted in significantly higher rates of infection than medical masks, and also performed worse than the control arm.

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577

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Toughsky_Shitsky 22 points ago +23 / -1

Laboratory tests showed the penetration of particles through the cloth masks to be very high (97%) compared with medical masks (44%) (used in trial) and 3M 9320 N95 (<0.01%), 3M Vflex 9105 N95 (0.1%).

That study was performed with HCWs (health care workers) .. who are exposed to significantly more and concentrated pathogens, ie worst case scenarios.

Conclusion from the study:

In the interest of providing safe, low-cost options in low income countries, there is scope for research into more effectively designed cloth masks, but until such research is carried out, cloth masks should not be recommended.

This is an outstanding study.

Saving.

Thanks for posting it.

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farstriderr 18 points ago +18 / -0

"3% PROTECTION IS BETTER THAN 0% PROTECTION" - Retards

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Lord_Yeezus 14 points ago +14 / -0

Man, this hit close to home. I had a buddy go down that route with me. He got really sour when I dared to question the narrative and I really don’t think he will talk to me anymore.

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Tyrone_biggums 10 points ago +10 / -0

Don’t shut up. That’s what they’ve want you to do.

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Block_Helen 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not when wearing any mask makes breathing more difficult.

The levels of retardation are off the charts.

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AlphaNathan 9 points ago +9 / -0

You're welcome

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CQVFEFE 6 points ago +8 / -2

3M 9320 N95 (<0.01%)

No.

There is no possibility that an N95 mask is allowing less than .01% of particles through, meaning it's blocking over 99.99%. (Though "particles" doesn't tell about size.) That is just laughably absurd.

The "95" means they block only 95% of particles over 0.3 micron in size. Wuhan viruses are .012 micron. Are any of them getting blocked? Do the math.

Here's the article to share instead:

https://www.sott.net/article/434796-The-Science-is-Conclusive-Masks-and-Respirators-do-NOT-Prevent-Transmission-of-Viruses

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arma 3 points ago +3 / -0

The reason they can block 99.9% of particles containing the kung flu is because the "particles" are actually water-based droplets from exhalation. Individual virus particles aren't being exhaled so it doesn't actually matter how big the virus is unless it's a significant portion of the carrier droplet's size.

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Klown_Kutz 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah but don't contradict Chinese talking points. Don't you know the virus flies through the air all on its own?

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Highfyingcrow 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are forgetting that droplets are going to be caught on the mask. It doesn't matter that the actual viron size is when the vehicle it is traveling in is larger and aqueous.

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

The WHO advise that people only need to wear a face mask if they are treating a person with COVID-19 or if they are coughing and sneezing. Masks are only effective when a person uses and disposes of them properly.

The CDC recently issued new guidance on the use of face masks for the general population. They advise using a cloth face covering in situations where physical distancing is difficult to maintain.

People can make face masks from common household fabrics. Proper surgical masks and N95 respirators should only be in use among healthcare professionals.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/is-coronavirus-airborne#prevention

See, these so-called "experts" are all over the map. Some say it spreads from hard surfaces, some say no. Some say droplets only, others say aerosol, others say it doesn't spread in the air. All agree that no clinical study has ever proven that "antisocial distancing" of six feet from each other has any effect whatsoever on disease transmission. But they took that invented bullshit suggestion—apparently from a paper written by some high-school student—and ran with it.

Common household fabrics are supposed to stop virus transmission—never mind that not a single randomized clinical trial in a peer-reviewed publication supports this bizarre, illogical concept.

I'm not wearing a damp, microbe-contaminated rag over my face all day, that doesn't protect me, based on a maybe. Not when licensed medical doctors on TV have stated that they are dangerous; that "the general public does not need to be wearing a mask. They may make people feel better and may even block a droplet, but they don't provide the perfect protection that people think they do. And, often, there are unintended consequences" (Fauci); and that your viral load is so low when asymptomatic that you are not a credible threat to spread the illness.

I reject being arbitrarily categorized as a disease-spreading entity that must wear an uhealthy germ-incubator to contain his filth and must constantly rebreathe all the bacteria and viruses it collects through the day of adjusting and repositioning every few minutes; or else replace the mask every 20-30 minutes as recommended. That categorization does not apply to me.

A Trump says, those who feel better wearing a mask should feel free to do so. Those who don't should feel free to breathe free—and should not be shamed by maskers for protecting their own health. Many people are experiencing one of various conditions that preclude wearing the mask. A little compassion goes a long way.

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Toughsky_Shitsky 0 points ago +2 / -2

Thanks.

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +2 / -1

Cheers

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KekistanPM 16 points ago +16 / -0

Thanks for the links pedes! I'm not going to run to all my leftist friends right away though; I'm going to try to find additional studies, both supporting and unsupporting, so I can really digest the information and understand the big picture first.

Next time I debate a headline reader I'm going to say "Don't ask me to Google it. Tell me in your own words. You must be able to if you believe it."

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The_Litehaus_Abides 9 points ago +9 / -0

a headline reader ...

Adding this one to my definitions of lefttards, thank you!

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AlphaNathan 6 points ago +6 / -0

Agreed!

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RabidZoo 11 points ago +11 / -0

Tjey certainly wouldn't want to spread it anymore than necessary...rrriiiggghhhttt? These people ARE the fucking enemy.

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Kanxo 19 points ago +19 / -0

And that's with masks that are properly worn/changed/disposed of. The way most people use them "evidence suggests" this is actually helping to spread the virus.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-0948_article

Rates of infection were consistently higher among those in the cloth mask group than in the medical mask and control groups. This finding suggests that risk for infection was higher for those wearing cloth masks.

Control group means no mask I presume.

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blackestknight 9 points ago +9 / -0

Meaning those without masks are actually more prudent.

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Homopratensis2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Paper or cloth it makes no difference. If the mask doesn't seal around your face it doesn't do anything. It's a placebo basically.

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kimjongveryill 19 points ago +20 / -1

Excellent info! Here is an entire list debunking the mask zombies:

https://thedonald.win/p/GIgqZS5b/a-list-debunking-the-mask-mob-/

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CQVFEFE 4 points ago +4 / -0

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kimjongveryill 2 points ago +2 / -0

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b9k9 14 points ago +14 / -0

Filthy face diapers are just another platform that serve as concentrated disease vectors that are no different than "reusable" shopping bags.

For years, sensible people pointed out that eliminating plastic bags and enabling shoppers to bring in outside bags of questionable cleanliness was a classic case of liberal 'illogic'. (That is, promoting intentions/appearances over facts.)

Consider that most 'normal' (ie non homeless) people at least attempt to wear somewhat clean clothing. And, once dressed, unless they are extremely ill fitting and/or uncomfortable, people aren't typically playing with, adjusting, fidgeting their clothes.

The exact opposite is true with face diapers. For one, who washes them at all? Second, who isn't constantly touching, adjusting (or even putting on/taking off outside of the store) the fucking things?

So, you have your fingers all over this disease delivery system that then sits right over your mouth/nose delivering 100s of doses of concentrated virus per 'mask episode'. You're touching goods, looking, maybe taking them, sometimes returning. And your fellow shoppers? Doing the exact same thing!

And, for the final touch, instead of washing your lungs out with fresh, non CO2 recycled air, you get a twofer: you both reduce the opportunity for fresh air, while ensuring you breath in whatever is present on that dirty face rag.

It's crazy, and like the ban on re-usable bags that went right down the memory hole, this whole mask wearing business is going to reverse on itself, with governments and stores being sued for the ensuing increase in non CV related respiratory health issues.

Idiots.

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syt2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

agree about the masks, disagree about the bags. i'm not concerned about getting sick from a bag more than anything else i touch in public. which is not very concerned at all. i just wash my hands when i get home or before eating

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CQVFEFE 3 points ago +3 / -0

Huge props b9k9 for laying out what I've been saying and what others have been saying for weeks, about this horrific plot to kill and sicken as many of us as they can without having to go to jail for it.

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Homopratensis2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let's hope sooner rather than later.

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BetsyFreedom85 7 points ago +7 / -0

Excellent find!! Just archived this article in case it disappears...

http://archive.is/EIFq7

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CQVFEFE 3 points ago +3 / -0

Son of a bitch.

Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.

Even fucking handwashing has no substantial effect on flu virus transmission. What???

Caveat: Chinese researchers. Beware! Could this be disinformation to get us to stop washing our hands?

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Kweebecker 1 point ago +1 / -0

Viruses are fascinating entities. Not quite life-forms, but not inert mass.

Hand-washing prevents bacteria and contaminants. It stops those types of infections, or helps with it at least. So, like, wash your hands, you filthy animal. But bacteria are like little tiny animals. There's a reason "antibacterial" is a common thing, but "antiviral" isn't nearly as much, and is often more dangerous to handle. We know how to kill animals. We're damn good at it. Even really tiny ones. You wanna kill bugs? Soap is actually surprisingly effective at killing insects, alongside other life forms. But viruses are more like machines: They work, they act, they do things, but they're not necessarily "alive" in the same sense that we or bacteria are.

What works on bacteria doesn't always work on viruses, and what works on viruses doesn't always work on bacteria.

So wash your hands, no matter what China Study says.

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Homopratensis2 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not a find. It has been up since April. It is the most recent article about the topic of high quality, however. Interesting that it is by Hong Kong researchers.

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Homopratensis2 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Sott article I am aware of. It includes studies that are not well done and one from Egypt that is highly questionable. The fact the article is posted on the CDC website goes a long way towards convincing the snopes dopes crowd.

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HuntersCokeDealer 17 points ago +23 / -6

TL;DR is supposed to summarize a long comment. Your TL;DR was completely new info written after a short paragraph.

TL;DR - you don't know how to use TL;DR

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guitarmastershredder 6 points ago +7 / -1

Hahahaha that was good

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FreedomAintFreeYo 4 points ago +5 / -1

Maybe it should have been TL;DW as in too long, didn't write.

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Plutossextape1 6 points ago +7 / -1

Long story short was how I read it.

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Found the Internet's first formatting faggot last week, now the first tldr nazi. Don't bust me for not capitalizing or not using the semicolon in the abbreviation LOL

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HuntersCokeDealer -1 points ago +1 / -2

What, faggot? I will never care about you or anything you do. Fuck off, busy body cunt.

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

LOL easily triggered tldr nazi who dispenses ridicule over how to use tldr...calls other people "busy body cunt"

tldr: Internet rule-monitor Karens don't understand irony

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HuntersCokeDealer 0 points ago +1 / -1

"Triggered" "Nazi" "Karens" "Irony"

Do you say anything that isn't coded in 2020 SJW cliche speak? Everything you say is retarded. Now I'm convinced you're an overweight gamer who lives on the internet. People overwhelmingly agreed with my critique. Sorry your panties are in a bunch. Maybe stroke yourself to your favorite porn collection to get over it?

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

busy body cunt

You were the one being the Karen about TL;DR

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HuntersCokeDealer 0 points ago +1 / -1

Here we go with the fucking Karen patrol. Everyone you disagree with is now a Karen because you're in mom's basement. Motherfucker, you dont use "Too Long ; Didn't Read" after a 3 sentence paragraph that had nothing to do with the summary. It makes no fucking sense to the majority of people, which is reflected in the votes of my comment. Go bother someone else. You're annoying.

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booblitchutz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are you at all sick though?

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DRKMSTR 9 points ago +9 / -0

There is a good study at the NIH and it proves Masks do work....SURGICAL MASKS....worn properly....and regularly replaced.

The same study shows cloth masks increase transmission even beyond not wearing a mask.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

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Furaffinitydotnet 4 points ago +4 / -0

We're not Vietnamese hospital workers.

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DRKMSTR 2 points ago +2 / -0

If anything hospital workers are more adept to proper mask usage than the public

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Furaffinitydotnet 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is an African hospital = German hospital = Canadian hospital = Vietnamese hospital = USA hospital?

Are Vietnamese tests our tests?

Is your workplace a hospital?

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting

I read another study from Sweden IIRC that retrospectively examined the studies on the topic and concluded there is no scientific evidence to suggest surgical masks do anything to prevent infection during surgery.

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Block_Helen 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you have it can you link it? I'm saving all these in my China Lung AIDS folder. Thx

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/

Not the one I was looking for, but anyhow

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Block_Helen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you!

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cheers!

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SirPokeSmottington 7 points ago +7 / -0

There hasn't been a single study proving that masks stop the spread of the virus. Not one.

Not true. You can find a study to support any crazy conspiracy.

It's all just "evidence suggests."

Right. There are very few things in this world that exist beyond theory. And so, those are the words they use to be non-commital.

Now before you people get your e-peen all hard that I'm a masker-upper, and downvote because you do not agree. I'm not. I'm just pointing out facts. If you can prove I'm wrong, go ahead and downvote, but don't downvote because FEELINGS.

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utahbeachballs1944 6 points ago +6 / -0

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GoGoGadgetGringo 4 points ago +4 / -0

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Hombre29 3 points ago +3 / -0

The packaging for masks even says it's not effective against COVID. They must think that the manufacturer completely overlooked aerosolization and knows nothing at all about the uses for the products they make.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 3 points ago +3 / -0

The dipshits in twitter post all these cdc op-EDs and I keep posting this:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

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CQVFEFE 3 points ago +3 / -0

There hasn't been a single study proving that masks stop the spread of the virus. Not one. It's all just "evidence suggests."

Correct.

https://www.sott.net/article/434796-The-Science-is-Conclusive-Masks-and-Respirators-do-NOT-Prevent-Transmission-of-Viruses

A review of 17 randomized clinical trials revealed zero effect of masks on flu virus transmission.

I wonder why a warm, moist, sticky, microbe-contaminated piece of cloth strapped over your mouth wouldn't keep you safe from respiratory illness?????

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farstriderr 2 points ago +2 / -0

The study they like to quote is a meta-analysis of N95 masks used in a controlled medical setting. First, meta-analyses are not direct studies of the effects in question, but analyses of those studies. Therefore, the results can be manipulated greatly based on the different analysis methods used. Some studies in the meta-analysis show almost no effectiveness of even N95 masks in a medical setting. Second, there are no studies on the effectiveness of homemade or cloth masks in any environment. Or if there are, they show almost zero effectiveness.

That's their "proof" masks work.

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residue69 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh yeah?! Then why did China send their minions out to buy up all the masks before they spread their virus to the world? Answer that, smart guy! /s

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Cyer6 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ingram’s lead story last night was all about the mask debate. She, the doctors on her show and the studies they showed completely destroyed the argument of wearing masks. Then Kemp does this the next day.

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booblitchutz 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly, it's been two weeks since Texas gov Greg Abbott put a statewide mask mandate in place. Look at the case counts? Still going up.

But oh wait, we just caught one county in Texas deliberately inflating the case count by adding "provisional" cases to the totals even though DSHS said they weren't weeks ago!

So who knows what the fuck to believe anymore? I for one think these case counts will keep jumping up and up until Abbott caves and shuts the state down again and approves all mail in voting, then magically they will instantly fall.

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

The data are so garbagey. Counting presumed cases as new cases - WTF. Adding positive antibody tests into the new cases - more WTF.

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booblitchutz 3 points ago +3 / -0

So Bexar County was outed for inflating the numbers, walked back 3.7k cases. I guarantee we will see a drop in the numbers while Dallas, Houston and Austin figure out how to inflate the cases more, then they will creep back up.

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Block_Helen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Counting multiple positive tests on the same person as "new cases" also inflates the numbers.

People also consistently misspeak when they say "new cases" instead of "new positive tests." Not the same thing. Or course the officials are fine with this kind of misinfo as it bolsters their lockdown narrative.

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Aquamine-Amarine 47 points ago +48 / -1

Exactly. Want to wear a mask? Fine. But don't harass and punish people for not wearing one. Stop putting up with this obvious discrimination, hysteria, and fear mongering.

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magopus6 9 points ago +9 / -0

If we really want mask mandates to disappear seemingly overnight, we just need all of us to start wearing one printed with

"ERIC CIARAMELLA"

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Aquamine-Amarine 4 points ago +4 / -0

"Trump 2020" would probably work well too. Maybe even a few "Bill Clinton is a rapist" ones.

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ObongoForPrison2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

"Jesus Saves"

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Isolated_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Jesus Saves"

"Masks Oppress"

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Webasdias 6 points ago +7 / -1

Honestly considering that asymptomatic cases are unlikely to transmit, I think the masks are utterly pointless.

If you have symptoms or tested positive stay your ass home. If you’re sick you shouldn't be around other people mask or not.

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JuicyfearsMAGA 3 points ago +3 / -0

This.

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thuggishruggishtrump 4 points ago +5 / -1

It's crazy how sheep people are, the same people shaming everyone for not wearing masks are the same people if you told 9 months ago that the economy would be shut down from a common cold like virus and everyone would be required to wear masks while it's over 100 degrees outside they would call you a "conspiracy theorist".

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Czech2Check 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s actually not fine if they “want” to wear a mask though. They’re perpetuating a myth and scaring people.

The more masks you see, the worse off we’ll be.

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saco 31 points ago +33 / -2

I just heard a report saying that covid testing sites are failing to report negative cases and they can test one person across many days and count each test as one 'case'. People are being multiple-counted.

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JuicyfearsMAGA 27 points ago +27 / -0

It's worse than that. In Florida we have had 300+ testing sites reporting 100 percent of their tests as positive. No problem, mask up, lockdown forever!

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saco 17 points ago +17 / -0

Sounds like they are trying to shut down the RNC which is in Jacksonville. That is why they are trying to get the numbers as high as possible.

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BubblesPink 4 points ago +4 / -0

Except that our current "republican" Mayor Lenny Curry passed a mask mandate by an executive order and forced all of us to wear masks to save himself politically, since he can't handle any negative press. He's as slimy as they come, he also took down a monument to confederate soldiers who died in the middle of the night without any input from the city council or the citizens and has vowed to take every confederate statue down. God I hate him.

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saco 3 points ago +3 / -0

Beautiful picture! I will move there soon.

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JuicyfearsMAGA 4 points ago +4 / -0

Wouldn't surprise me at all. I think personally the convention should take place over 3 locations and three days. Let trump give a speech on day 2 and 3, let Pence headline day 1.

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ObongoForPrison2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's the part I don't think people realize - the response to the Chinese Virus isn't going away after the election. The left loves the control too much, regardless of who is POTUS. Masks and other retarded mandates will be here forever.

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JuicyfearsMAGA 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't know the play on this, but almost all of my intuition is pointing to if trump loses in November, we will never hear of this virus again within a week.

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Isolated_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

if Trump loses in November is basically going to be WWIII. They won't time for fake reports on a virus with all the actual violence going down all over the world.

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roytheboy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why would there be worldwide violence? Maybe I'm dumb, I don't get it

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Isolated_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not just the US, the whole world is facing this communist takeover. If the US destabilizes, which will happen if the left manages such a blatant theft this election, the rest of the world will follow within hours.

The entire global economy is teetering on a knife edge right now, and conservatives around the world know it was done on purpose. I don't think the result of dems stealing nov will be very pleasant for anyone.

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

Not reporting negative results is not quite the same thing as reporting 100% positive results. If you look at the relevant columns in the FL table it doesn't have 0 in the negative column, it has no number at all. Which looks more to me like non-reporting their negative cases than reporting they had zero negative cases. So I think that might explain the FL thing.

Or not. It's all a fucking mess at this point.

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txladyvoter 15 points ago +15 / -0

People calling in to Rush substantiating that multiple people being reported as covid positive when THEY HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN TESTED!

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BubblesPink 4 points ago +4 / -0

My mom's eye doctor had that happen to her, she was telling my mom that they were waiting to be tested but it took too long so they left, and a couple of days later they got a letter in the mail saying they were positive. It's unbelievable how the American people are just letting their government stop all over their liberties for a "virus" that obviously has inflated numbers.

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Block_Helen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I'm seeing that all over. People who get in line to get tested and then leave the line because it's too long - then get an email later with positive results. How does that work? Did they somehow provide their email address before leaving the line?

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txladyvoter 2 points ago +2 / -0

BS big time. Need video. Wish it would happen to me. I'd have a really good time with that.

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CountryState_of_Mind 11 points ago +11 / -0

Guest caller on local talk radio in Ohio told his story a few weeks ago, said he tested positive. Had to go through NINE retests to finally get a negative. Each time he tested positive, the State counted it as a new case!

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MakeAmericaLegendary 6 points ago +6 / -0

Source?

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kekdream 5 points ago +5 / -0

https://www.fox13news.com/news/doh-some-florida-labs-only-reported-positive-covid-19-results-not-negatives

They are currently trying to downplay saying, "It's only .1% of cases." It doesn't matter if it's .1% or 15% or .0001%. It still makes the numbers all fucked up.

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Corse46 5 points ago +5 / -0

Look for the Fox 35 Orlando story. It was covered both last nights on Laura’s show.

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saco 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes. It was on Laura Ingraham. I thought it was on her show, but I watched a few shows and listened to podcasts, that I was unsure who said it.

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JuicyfearsMAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/15/florida-labs-incorrectly-reported-a-100-positivity-rate-for-coronavirus-tests/

Sad thing is Google searching almost all the mainstream headlines are calling this a conspiracy theory. They can't cover up the truth

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m sure someone will destroy Fox35 for this

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JuicyfearsMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh Google it and almost all the stories are saying it's a conspiracy theory or conservatives over reacting to the data

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kekdream 4 points ago +4 / -0 (edited)

I work for one of those hospitals. They were told to only report positive cases at the beginning of the pandemic by CDC. This is via a lab tech.

Edit: Via lab tech, the orders were from CDC, not* FDOH. WOOOAAAAHHHH!!!!!

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Block_Helen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, this is what I thought. They're not saying they had zero negative results, they're just not reporting the negative results, only the positives. And it turns out that was by CDC directive. SMH

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Samuel311fan 16 points ago +16 / -0

What am I supposed to do if I don’t want to wear a mask but where I live I won’t be able to walk into any business without one? I don’t want to lie and say I have some medical condition. What are my options? Not participate in our economy? Online only??

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OranjeBlanjeBlou 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yeah that’s the real problem. We can at least attempt to vote out governments who force masks. When every grocery store in your area forces masks, you can’t cast a vote and you no longer have the ability to ‘vote with your wallet’. You comply or give your money to Amazon. We’re running out of lawful options

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LurkNoMore 6 points ago +7 / -1

Welcome to the mark of the beast. First masks, then vaccine, then microchip, then gulags.

They won’t have to exterminate free thinkers, just starve them out of society.

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HiddenDekuScrub 6 points ago +6 / -0

I DO have a medical condition and have still been denied entry. I know people say "just walk in", heck I was one of them at one point, but if they're asking you to leave, that's more pushback than I'm willing to give.

Online orders seem to be the way to go for the most part. Works for everything from food to fun items.

I will say I saw something kinda disturbing a week ago. A guy came out of a store, practically ran to his car, and yanked his mask off gasping. UGH, there is no punishment for Wuhan Gruesome that would satisfy me!

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OranjeBlanjeBlou 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s not China that’s forcing us into muzzles. It’s the Left. That’s who needs punished.

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trumpORbust 6 points ago +6 / -0

Same situation -- i mostly use curbside pickup/delivery or go without a mask and just ignore everyone. I keep a medical one in my pocket and hold it up to my face or hang it off on ear if i really need to go inside.

I was wearing my full face motorcycle helmet, but that got a little uncomfortable -- maybe the dirt bike one will be better

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angrynonna 5 points ago +5 / -0

If you go to the mall or any store or business that sells a drink, buy a small one and walk around with the straw on your lip and act like your drinking. Did this in the mall yesterday worked like a charm!

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thuggishruggishtrump 5 points ago +5 / -0

Now do you realize just how important this election is?

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CQVFEFE 4 points ago +4 / -0 (edited)

I don’t want to lie and say I have some medical condition.

Very admirable. Try these (pay close attention to wording):

1. "Doctor said not to wear it."

Not a lie: Dr. Fauci, one of the world's leading epidemiology experts, has said not to wear it, very pointedly. As have many, many other doctors. Note, you didn't say "MY doctor said not to wear it." Which doctor, and any private info about your health conditions, is none of anyone's business.

2. "Lots of people have conditions that preclude wearing the mask. I can't wear one."

Not a lie: lots of people do have such conditions; and "you can't wear one" in good conscience is also true, because you know they don't work and are dangerous germ-factories right over your mouth.

3. "I have a condition that precludes wearing a mask."

Not a lie: your "condition" (in the sense that you freely place conditions on things) for wearing a mask is that it (a) be effective in curbing disease transmission and (b) not be miserably uncomfortable and dangerous to your health. Your condition is further that you don't wear moist, sticky, microbe-contaminated cloths over your mouth that restrict breathing, make you constantly touch your nose and mouth, and increase your risk of infection.

4. "In islam, only women are required to wear face coverings. This is the word of Allah! I am not wearing it."

Not a lie: this is the rule in islam; you never said YOU were a practitioner of it; and you are not wearing the muzzle. If you like, omit the second sentence, or change to "God". Still not a lie! Officially, Allah and God are exactly the same Abrahamic deity. ("Officially." :)

5. "I don't / can't wear a mask for medical reasons." (Kudos to chancehappeneth)

Not a lie: They may assume you mean a medical condition that you have, but you didn't say that; you mean your "medical reasons" are that you don't want to risk being infected by the chronically contaminated rag over your mouth, or risk headaches from the hypoxia induced by constantly rebreathing your CO2 while restricting your oxygen.

Nos. 1, 2, 3, and 5 can be used in combination if desired, for a natural flow. I prefer to simply say "Doctor said not to wear it. I have a condition." Nobody has ever come back to me with another word. If they ask what condition, as of now I would say "medical reasons" as chancehappeneth suggests.

Like you, I find it deeply impossible to lie—not like I'm an angel, I'm not, it's just WAY more stress-inducing, gut-wrenching and nerve-wracking for me—I'd go over and over it in my tortured brain like the guy in Poe's A Telltale Heart, it's 1000 times worse than simply living with the truth no matter what—so I use that to my advantage and tailor my words to create the desired effect without it. The CEO of a company where I used work even adopted my definition of marketing: "Telling the truth in a manner that best highlights our product and brings the highest benefit to the company and the customer."

There's no need to lie. Or to ever wear the contaminated muzzle.

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Chancehappeneth 4 points ago +4 / -0

"I don't wear a mask for medical reasons." They may assume you are referencing a medical condition but you haven't lied.

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LurkNoMore 8 points ago +8 / -0

Used that line and was still told to leave. Came back wearing a hat with mosquito netting. They said that was fine. Fucking retards.

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +1 / -0

"I don't wear a mask for medical reasons."

STEALING! ♥♥♥

Brevity is the sould of wit.

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Cyer6 4 points ago +4 / -0

Be very creative with the mask then. Use it against them. I put on a camo cap, camo gater mask and sun glasses so they can’t see an inch of my face. Businesses and people generally don’t like not being able to see your eyes and features. Some people make a joke of it and have fun with it. Just don’t comply in the same manner as all the other sheep.

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DudeThatCame2Sarnath 3 points ago +4 / -1

What I do is walk right into the store as normal. If the store does not say anything, I continue my business. I would ignore other shoppers, though to be honest nobody other than staff has said anything to me directly. Only the store has the right to enforce their policies.

Some stores do stop me. The better stores ask if I have a mask. I say no, and they usually offer me one. I politely refuse and ask them what my options are, since I will not wear a mask. Most stores want my business and will go to great lengths to accommodate me, and I respect and appreciate that.

These stores will usually offer to do curbside pickup for you. At one store, the employee even picked items up from within the store, and brought them out to me. I paid online and left. Other stores have shown me how to order online. I do not like or prefer these options, but they are available to those of us who will not wear a mask.

For those stores that simply refuse to serve me at all, and offer no alternatives, to hell with them. I make a note to never return to that store. But under no circumstances do I give the store a hard time about it. Most business owners don't like the situation any more than I do.

Also like you, I will not lie and claim I have a medical condition. I believe it trivializes the situations of those of us who DO have a legitimate condition.

Try going to the store as normal, and ask them what your options are if you will not wear a mask. Be polite, be respectful, but stand firm in your beliefs. Like me, you may find that people are more than willing to help you. But do also make a note of who the assholes are.

Good luck, pede!

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BubblesPink 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's been my issue too. We've been going to the neighboring counties that don't require masks to shop, but now that Walmart, Target, and other stores are requiring them idk what I'm going to do. I ordered a mesh face mask from Etsy, once I get it in and if it works then that'll be my way around it, just wear it to appease the masses but in reality it does nothing.

Also I'll wear a mask to walk in but pull it down once I'm inside, unless an employee tells me to pull it up. Unfortunately there are a lot of crazy people, my aunt was already screamed at and almost attacked at a store for not wearing a mask.

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SirPokeSmottington 16 points ago +17 / -1

don't mandate it on the populace when

the populace doesn't even wear them properly. And those people are "okayed" as WEARING a mask, just because something is hanging off their ears, but because I do NOT have something hanging off my ears, I'm the baddie.

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Corse46 17 points ago +18 / -1

I think there’s a reason they push the cloth and “anything goes” masks. Laura did a segment last night on masks on her show that showed evidence you were MORE likely to get sick with a cloth mask, than no mask at all. The cloth absorbs the droplets and holds it on your face like a Petri dish. Like getting water boarded with the virus all day

I also think the purpose of the mask mandates is to allow AntiFA and the criminal behavior to operate. You can’t tell me everyone wearing a mask hasn’t assisted the massive rise in crime.

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CisSiberianOrchestra [S] 13 points ago +14 / -1

Masks are also being used to sow more division in the country. The media is portraying it as "good, virtuous people who wear masks" versus "selfish, dangerous people who refuse to wear masks."

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SPEZ_CUPS_CCP_BALLS 10 points ago +11 / -1

The purpose of it also to keep people in "fear".....you see everyone wearing masks and you are reminded of "CoRoNA viRuS" and a "PanDemIc" happening. Instead of people gradually forgetting about it and ignoring the news.

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uberswank99 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yes, I ask that question to people to help break the spell: "if you had no access to media and no one was wearing masks, would you even know this thing existed?"

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Highfyingcrow 1 point ago +3 / -2

Yeah I would, because I personally I knew people on here

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/85867

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SPEZ_CUPS_CCP_BALLS 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah? Who? Because chances are you didn't know "PEOPLE" you maybe knew a "PERSON".....other than that you are a liar with a brand new fucking account.

Get out of here leftist...Bernie can still win! Go donate!

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aKekabove 4 points ago +4 / -0

You can't go back to normal until new government is installed. It's how a communist overthrow happens. Normal will come as the new normal after they rig the election and install new government

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TheGhostOfSethRich 4 points ago +4 / -0

Every time someones asks me when corona is going to I be over i tell them November 4th. They laugh then the redpill really quick when they realize I'm right.

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SPEZ_CUPS_CCP_BALLS 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sadly I think you are right. No matter how much we show up for POTUS, they are going to rig it...then they will blame it on Trumps "bad handling of Corona Virus and MuH RaCiAl IsSuEs" .....its just what I've been thinking over the past week or so....all the talk of "WHAT IF Biden wins, etc" instead of "Trump WILL win"

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BetsyFreedom85 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes. FEAR throughout the summer when people are usually vacationing and having fun is key. They want to demoralize and destabilize

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SPEZ_CUPS_CCP_BALLS 2 points ago +2 / -0

I also think that they want to tie this period to Trump so they can blame him for things being like they are and the sheeple eat it up

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ThankYouMrTrump 9 points ago +9 / -0

Common sense would tell you that putting a porous barrier over your mouth and nose is going to cause the mask to become a warm moist environment that will encourage the growth of not only viruses but also bacteria.

Also, hypothetically, what happens when you cough or sneeze? The virus-laden moisture in the pores of your mask is going to be forced out or “trampolined” into the air.

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Returningtogod 8 points ago +8 / -0

When they started this mask nonsense back in May (?) my first thought was that we’d be seeing Antifa violence in short order. Because in many states, especially southern states, the Antifa violence was shut down back in 2017 using state laws prohibiting masks at public gatherings. Remnants from KKK times.

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

the populace doesn't even wear them properly. And those people are "okayed" as WEARING a mask, just because something is hanging off their ears, but because I do NOT have something hanging off my ears, I'm the baddie.

Well said Sir. I hereby joke a toint in your honor.

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whateverbruh 5 points ago +5 / -0

Speaking of Data, I decided to send some links to my boss about CDC and Government Covid-19 statistics being fraudulent. Oh and I sent a RecallNewsom link as well, I got no response except for "Government and City orders must be obeyed". Now I'm wondering what my Boss thinks of me because I know she has mild TDS for believing media lies about how Trump wants all Hispanics gone.

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trumpORbust 7 points ago +7 / -0

She now knows your are full on MAGA and I'd immediately start looking for another job / collecting evidence for a whistleblower protection claim or lawsuit

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whateverbruh 2 points ago +2 / -0

I mean, If that was true I would have been fired when I had texted her that BLM is nothing but a violent group to which she agreed lol. Like I said, Mild TDS for believing media lies that Trump wanted to deport all Hispanics. I could be low key red pilling or just increasing my chances of being fired 🤷‍♂️ . I'll update you after this meeting today that is due to the 2nd lock down, If they take my work keys I'm fired or just furloughed again.

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ZincOS 3 points ago +4 / -1

There can be harm in wearing a mask, even if the person makes the choice to wear it. Respiration problems, etcetera.

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fauci: "Often there are unintended consequences" [of wearing the muzzle].

Hey this guy's supposed to be #1 in the world at this, so let's listen to him on this. He says, and I directly quote:

In the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask may make some people FEEL better, and they MAY EVEN BLOCK A DROPLET ::spoken with sarcastic grin on unmasked face::...but they're not providing the perfect protection that people think they are. And often there are unintended consequences."

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thisisatestof2 2 points ago +2 / -0

In the left response to that would be “what’s the worst that can happen If It didn’t make a difference, you have to wear a piece of fabric on your face for a while as a minor inconvenience when it could have save lives. Better safe than sorry.”

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Coslin 1 point ago +1 / -0

To which the simple answer is - If it doesn't make a difference why wear it all?

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes!

And on eBay for only $35.00 you can get one can of Lysol spray (I swear I am not making this up) and a small rock painted with Charlie Brown saying "GOOD GRIEF, JUST WEAR THE MASK". You can also find just the spray at over $33.00 per can.

This.

Is.

Insane.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Can-19-oz-Lysol-Crisp-Linen-and-Charlie-Brown-Painted-Rock/184363764695?hash=item2aecefcbd7:g:Xd4AAOSw9cVfDVbI

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LurkNoMore 1 point ago +1 / -0

Abbott tried to stand up to the covid nazis but couldn’t.

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malthrax 2 points ago +2 / -0

Big Texan who wilted like a delicate flower.

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LurkNoMore 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’d still welcome him in my deer blind and I’d like to buy him a beer, but I will primary his ass next chance I get. You can be one helluva guy and make a shitty decision. I don’t dislike him, but I’ll vote against tyranny in any form.

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physicscat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Savannah mandated it first.

The mayor of Atlanta tested positive and THEN she mandated it. She hadn't done it before.

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kirovri 0 points ago +2 / -2

If someone chooses to wear their mask, so be it. No harm, no foul. But don't mandate it on the populace

Just saying, the point of the standard common surgical masks is to protect others, not the wearer.
To make masks a choice the people who want to be protected would need to get at least FFP2 masks, however those are much more rare, expensive and needed by medical staff in hospitals who are actually exposed to sick patients.

What I'm wondering is, are you guys being forced to wear masks outside of buildings? Because that would just be 10/10 retarded.

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LurkNoMore 4 points ago +4 / -0

Here in Texas, it’s just in businesses. But that’s worse, in my opinion. No mask? No food, no banking, no DMV, nothing. Accept the mask mandate? Gooooood! Next there’ll be a vaccine mandate, microchip mandate, mark of the fucking beast mandate. The mask mandate is Revelation in front of our eyes.

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kirovri 0 points ago +1 / -1 (edited)

Here in Texas, it’s just in businesses. But that’s worse, in my opinion. No mask? No food, no banking, no DMV, nothing.

Because indoors the virus can actually spread easily. If doctors can wear the masks for many hours then I'm sure you can wear it for 20 minutes. Or do you think you should be allowed to just go inside any building and infect anyone you wish? I'm sure the people who work there and have to sit there for 8 hours would love that...

The masks are uncomfortable and I fucking hate wearing them too. But they (inside public buildings) allow us to keep the economy going and do most things without the infected numbers exploding. Have you seen the daily case numbers of America compared to Europe? Spoiler: Europe got the virus under control, America doesn't, quite the opposite.

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LurkNoMore 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nailed it! I lost two of my three stores, I’m filing both chapter 11 and chapter 7 bankruptcy and losing everything I’ve worked for, and I will likely lose my home. The virus didn’t cause this... uneducated Karen’s like you caused this by creating a false panic. Go back to reddit and jerk off to pro-Europe threads with the other losers.

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kirovri 0 points ago +1 / -1 (edited)

Nailed it! I lost two of my three stores, I’m filing both chapter 11 and chapter 7 bankruptcy and losing everything I’ve worked for, and I will likely lose my home. The virus didn’t cause this

Higher mask acceptance inside stores would mean less spread, less lockdowns and thus more business.

uneducated Karen’s like you caused this by creating a false panic

False panic huh? Just a flu huh?

Have you missed what happens in towns where the virus spread uncontrollably, like in Italy? Hospitals where all the ICU beds are filled with Chinese virus patients being on respirators, having to turn away patients because they don't have enough capacity, military trucks full of dead bodies who died to the Chinese virus and are being carried to other towns because the local morgue can't keep up with all the dead bodies. Just a false panic right?
And last time I checked New York City didn't do so well either, with those cooling vans near hospitals to store all the dead bodies. That totally happens every year with the flu right?

No, you know what the problem is? People like you who downplay the virus and advocate against masks at all costs. Masks (inside public buildings) are inconvenient but allow to keep the economy going.
When the outbreak in the USA started with New York City you could have prevented it from spreading if the whole country would just wear masks for grocery shopping etc.
But no, surgeons wear masks for many hours while performing extremely important work, but you can't wear them for 20 minutes to buy your food, just a flu, masks are evil, and where Europe got the virus under control, you already got a second wave before the first one was over, with even more infected than before, and now southern Republican strongholds like Texas are getting rekt. You are shooting yourself in the foot.

Have you taken a look at the numbers recently?

Italy: https://i.maga.host/cVDaF52.png
USA: https://i.maga.host/8jznwzH.png

European countries have been opening up the economies again with national mandated mask in stores and it's going well, meanwhile you guys are trying to fight masks like they're evil incarnate and the daily new confirmed numbers are exploding. You're in for a real shitshow and it's the fault of people like you.

Go back to reddit and jerk off to pro-Europe threads with the other losers.

So because you are mad that Europe is handling the Chinese virus better than the USA I'm supposed to stop supporting Trump after five years and leave the pro-Trump website? 10/10 logic, your genius strategy will help us getting Trump re-elected! Also no, go fuck yourself lol.

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HiddenDekuScrub 1 point ago +1 / -0

New Mexico is supposedly forcing that. I have not personally seen anyone arrested, and most people seem to not care about wearing masks outside, but there are stories floating around of the governor having random people chased down by the state police.

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JuicyfearsMAGA 28 points ago +29 / -1

Post the proof that it's effective then.

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Aquamine-Amarine 33 points ago +34 / -1

Doctors use them. Not normal people. Because you obviously don't want germs and other stuff getting into a body you're cutting up for surgery.

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MegoThor 31 points ago +31 / -0

When I see a surgery being performed in the street, I’ll wear a mask as I walk by.

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kimjongveryill 10 points ago +10 / -0

🌶️🌶️🌶️

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Vsmole 6 points ago +6 / -0

Spicy

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Kekintosh2020 17 points ago +17 / -0 (edited)

Are you implying that we don't live in a sterile, negative pressure environment? You bigoted, sciencetism denier, granny genocider!

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

(Never mind that they've never been proven to reduce infection during surgery either LOL :)

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, they don't work. Even for surgery. They have no effect at all on infection rate, they just make everyone feel better. But thanks for playing.

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Mother_of_gains 27 points ago +29 / -2

Weird, I don't see any doctors wearing bandanas around their faces in hospitals.

Also, you don't know the difference between bacteria and a virus do you?

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SirPokeSmottington 2 points ago +3 / -1

Also, you don't know the difference between bacteria and a virus do you?

Not one bit.

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kimjongveryill 14 points ago +14 / -0

Only people jumping out planes need parachutes. Just like only doctors in hospitals need masks.

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Mother_of_gains 12 points ago +12 / -0

Feathers glued to your arms don't work AT ALL. kind of like a cloth mask protecting against a virus.

Thanks for proving my point.

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knightofday 21 points ago +22 / -1

This was the weakest argument I’ve ever seen for masks lmao. “Because doctors use them everyday!!” Yeah when they cut your dumb as open they don’t want spit and germs entering your exposed flesh.

Some fucking idiots posting itt I swear

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CQVFEFE 3 points ago +3 / -0

they don’t want spit and germs entering your exposed flesh.

National Institutes of Health article titled UNMASKING THE SURGEONS states:

"[O]verall there is a lack of substantial evidence to support claims that facemasks protect either patient or surgeon from infectious contamination."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/

But yeah, we totally need to wear a chin diaper at the beach.

Some fucking idiots posting itt I swear

Agreed!

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BeltBuckle 17 points ago +17 / -0

So you think shopping at the grocery store and having someone's organs exposed in front of you are equivalent? Interesting...

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JuicyfearsMAGA 8 points ago +8 / -0

And only what 5 percent are n95 which are able to prevent the particles from spreading. A cloth mask can't. The guy on here calling everyone anti science knows that, ignores that, and therefore is a liar.

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BeltBuckle 6 points ago +6 / -0 (edited)

My favorite part about the n95 mask is that it says right on the box that it doesn't protect from infection.

Source: I have to wear one at work

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +1 / -0

n95 which are able to prevent the particles from spreading

Except they do not.

The 95 means they only block 95% of particles 0.3 micron or larger.

Wuhan flu virus is 0.12 micron.

Wonder what % of THOSE the N95 is blocking LOL

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JuicyfearsMAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well I stand corrected, even those masks are useless .

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BeltBuckle 10 points ago +10 / -0

I disagree, this virus seems to care a lot how it gets into people's bodies.

Mass riots= sleepy sneezy boi

Alone on a hot as fuck beach getting rained on by natural UV light= activated virus chad

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kimjongveryill 15 points ago +15 / -0

Only medical certified respirators can be used in virus hot zones. Surgical masks, must be worn in a sterile environment and are only intended for one time use. Telling mass amounts of citizens to wear masks is not only wasteful, its illogical.

https://thedonald.win/p/GIgqZS5b/a-list-debunking-the-mask-mob-/

Here is a prior post i made with sources to ease you're mask questions.

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nakklavaar 3 points ago +3 / -0

Interesting list. It cleared up some of my concerns.

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kimjongveryill 2 points ago +2 / -0

Awesome!! love to hear it! ヽ(•‿•)ノ

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STEVE_HUFFMANS_BULL 9 points ago +9 / -0

I’ll give you one: look up what virologists wear in labs to protect themselves. It’s beyond hazmat level. Why are they doing that when a simple mouth covering made of literally any material works?

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kimjongveryill 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm giving you an entire list of medical research debunking you. Including experts in protective medical equipment.

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JuicyfearsMAGA 13 points ago +14 / -1

N95 masks are the only ones that might make a difference. You wearing the panties on your face in the stores acting like you're stopping the spread is only making you a gutless liberty-less sheep. But at least we get to see you with panties on your face.

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, they're dust masks. N95 can't block a virus 0.12 micron in size.

It can't even block more than 95% of particles 0.3 micron and larger.

The fucking things are a waste of time, money, and energy. And they're several dollars apiece. Am I supposed to believe that muzzlers are actually throwing them out daily and using a new one? Pfffft.

Chronically contaminated with microbes all day, and constantly inoculated with more every time you adjust the stupid sweaty thing.

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SnakeEyes 6 points ago +7 / -1

Nothome is a mask cuck and doesn’t realize covid particles are .125 micro meters and N95 masks only stop .3 micro meters and larger... go back to reddit soyboy. Your trendy chin diaper doesn’t do shit.

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thuggishruggishtrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

You dumbass doctors wear them so their droplets won't get onto the patients, it has nothing to do with viruses.

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thuggishruggishtrump 2 points ago +3 / -1

You just proved you don't know the difference between viruses and bacteria.

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HiddenDekuScrub 3 points ago +4 / -1

We need to address the dirty, disgusting narrative this is all based on first. The (misguided) belief with covid 19 is that somehow people magically transmit the virus with no symptoms. This turned out to be based on incorrect info. The people claiming to have "no symptoms" were scared Chinese folks controlling their minor symptoms with OTC meds. When the government is dragging people out of their homes and elsewhere and sending them possibly to die, WHY WOULDN'T YOU LIE TO SAVE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY'S LIVES?

Now, as for doctors...

Doctors use them so they don't hock a loogie into your gut while they're taking your appendix out. Admittedly an extreme example. Also prevents things like sudden sneezes, drool, etc. Even if you're not going to catch something from him, it's still gross, and some sort of minor fungal or bacterial infection in a place that is not typically exposed to those strains can turn up deadly. Plus somebody going under the knife may have a compromised immune system which warrants a little more care.

Now, do they worry about that in most other cases? No. Hence why your doc doesn't wear a mask while taking your blood pressure or listening to your lungs.

You see people in Asian countries wearing masks during flu season, but they do this because they are expected to work while sick and this just prevents them from sneezing on people. This is simply the work ethic demanded of them. We can argue whether it's fair or not, but that is the reality. I have never gotten the impression that they believe masks prevent infection to themselves.

TLDR: Doctors, dentists, etc. use masks for specific reasons in which a minor exposure that would not harm anyone else would turn up deadly. Some sick people use masks to be able to work without sneezing on co-workers. Covid 19 does NOT asymptomatically spread, cloth masks are gross breeding grounds for bacteria, and if you choose to wear a mask you should be wearing a disposable one.

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BetsyFreedom85 2 points ago +3 / -1

Doctors use them in short increments and dispose of them after patient encounters, and before Covid they were not being used in everyday patient encounters.

Surgical masks worn by surgeons are medical grade and only used 1x during a surgery then discarded.

There is no proof that an entire society should be masked with Etsy cloth masks and sweaty bandanas. Ridiculous. If anything it’s going to trap more germs and reduce people’s ability to expand their lungs and get more oxygen flowing through their blood. Take a look at how miserable everyone seems as they walk around in masks.

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

The data is ADMITTEDLY inaccurate. Where the fuck were you when Birx slipped up and admitted that they were commingling the deaths due to influenza and pneumonia with those due to Wuhan virus? Wise up.

Sorry, it's not propaganda that the stupid thing has a 99.3% survival rate and most people who get it NEVER EVEN KNOW IT because it's asymptomatic.

What you call "don't like sweaty lip", I call "refuse to wear moist, warm, microbe-contaminated rag over my face that restricts breathing and increases my chance of actually getting sick, just because Big Bro tells me to."

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nice try to move the goalposts, but my remark referred to your idiotic assertion that the data is 100% accurate, which has absolutely zero relevance to masks. Did you already forget writing that, Stupid?

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Retard,

Thanks for signing your message honestly. But still, I take no orders from retards.

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Lurking-My-Life-Away 106 points ago +106 / -0

There is nothing wrong with those who want to wear a mask. There is something massively wrong with the government telling us we have to.

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Aquamine-Amarine 39 points ago +39 / -0 (edited)

Yes, the illegal mandates and fines are the problem.

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CisSiberianOrchestra [S] 28 points ago +28 / -0

There are lawyers in a few states who have said "If you've been fined or imprisoned for not wearing a mask, contact me and I will represent you for free." They know that governor mandates are not laws and they will easily win the lawsuit.

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Aquamine-Amarine 6 points ago +6 / -0

That's great.

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Cyer6 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don’t care if the cops try to fine me because I don’t think they will around here. I will take it to court and fight it for the fun of it or contact one of those attorneys. I will not wear it in open public spaces.

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AlphaOverBeta 19 points ago +20 / -1

In America, it should always have been as simple as that. Take responsibility for yourself and quit projecting that burden onto others. Only in clown world does this become debatable.

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Magistra 12 points ago +13 / -1

Massively wrong.

I wonder how much revolt it will take? That’s the $64,000 question...

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kirovri 2 points ago +4 / -2

There is nothing wrong with those who want to wear a mask. There is something massively wrong with the government telling us we have to.

Are we talking about masks in public or inside stores here? Are there any places in the USA where they try to force you to wear a mask whenever you leave your house, like for a walk in the park?

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Lurking-My-Life-Away 4 points ago +4 / -0

Are there any places in the USA where they try to force you to wear a mask whenever you leave your house, like for a walk in the park?

Have you been paying attention? Most democrat governors have gone full retard with masks. Masks are required in New Mexico if you leave your house and the governor wants people to you wear them while in your house. The absurdity of these draconian mask decrees is totalitarian. And you are assuming you can go to a park without getting fined. Nope. Not in New Mexico.

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kirovri 1 point ago +2 / -1

Have you been paying attention?

Well I'm from Europe. We have to wear masks in stores. It's not like I could've expected the land of the free to order people to wear masks outside of buildings. Like wtf is that shit?

Unless you are saying I should just expect America to be retarded... in Europe we are much more restricted and have what the average American would consider socialism, but nobody here is thinking about forcing masks fucking outdoors. Fucking Demoncrats.

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RonPaulWasRight 2 points ago +3 / -1

Commiefornia

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sackofwisdom 1 point ago +1 / -0

It happened in Austin. If you leave your house from now til Nov without one you get a $2000 ticket.

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kirovri 2 points ago +2 / -0

It happened in Austin. If you leave your house from now til Nov without one you get a $2000 ticket.

That's a sad thing coming out of the great state of Texas of all places... but then again I hear Austin is a leftist shithole. Leftists just ruin everything wherever they go.

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busybeagle 0 points ago +2 / -2

Yes, Milwaukee WI.

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kirovri 1 point ago +3 / -2

Well, that helps understand why some people here are upset.

Over here in Europe we have to wear masks inside stores, but only inside. There is a big difference between enclosed space and air inside a building and the fresh, windy air outside.
Nobody here would ever think about forcing masks on people outside, because that's just retarded. You have some fucked up politicians in the land of the free...

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busybeagle 1 point ago +1 / -0

complete clown world

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Spacecat518 2 points ago +3 / -1

As long as the mask wearers know the mask is providing negligible at best protection against viruses, and they don’t chase and harass other people who don’t wear them.

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mixednuts86 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nah there is definitely something wrong. They are retarded.

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socrates2 59 points ago +59 / -0

Also where is Tom Fitton and other lawyers. What happened to individual liberties?? What happened to My body my choice.

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SirPokeSmottington 6 points ago +6 / -0

Also where is Tom Fitton and other lawyers.

Name ONE group or person Fitton has gone after that has seen a day in court, or prison.

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HIGH___ENERGY 8 points ago +8 / -0

Hillary Clinton

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Modus_Pwninz 3 points ago +3 / -0

Isn't she due for a deposition in September or somethin'?

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socrates2 1 point ago +1 / -0

True.

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DemsFuckKids 47 points ago +48 / -1

and open our fucking neighborhood pools!!!!!!!!

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Belgarath 34 points ago +34 / -0

IKR! Closing down pools full of chlorinated water is trash tier decision making.

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Magistra 14 points ago +14 / -0

It’s complete lunacy. Right up there with any idiot closing a beach!

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DemsFuckKids 3 points ago +3 / -0

joing the HOA w/ some neighbors ASAP.

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james_stinton789 6 points ago +6 / -0

Don't join an HOA! Your liberties will vanish faster than if you relocated to China!

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DemsFuckKids 3 points ago +3 / -0

i'm already in an HOA, but they're some lazy fucks

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james_stinton789 6 points ago +6 / -0 (edited)

Consider yourself lucky. They have the potential to be particularly foul. I digress, but I was on the board of an HOA run by the most liberal bunch of morons. Any problem was met with "make a rule against them doing that." I'd point out how they hadn't thought their rule through, how it would cost more to enforce than it would to deal with the problem in other ways, how it likely violated various rights, had other repercussions, etc. When I stood up to them publicly, I was "sowing dissent" and was later branded as "Trumpian".

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Modus_Pwninz 4 points ago +4 / -0

What an honor!

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Belgarath 5 points ago +5 / -0

If you mean take over an HOA and run it as we see fit then yes. A CAPITAL idea boi's. CAPITAL!

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DemsFuckKids 4 points ago +4 / -0

that's what we're going for. we hear new members are quickly quieted and ignored. wish us luck. we're joining as a group to swing the numbers. majority rules. we'll see

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DemsFuckKids 1 point ago +1 / -0

someone thumbsed down this? lol what a fag!

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Bbasher 38 points ago +39 / -1

GEORGIA GANG RISE UP!!!!!!

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Cyer6 6 points ago +6 / -0

Texas take note. Abbott, grow a pair.

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Modus_Pwninz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sorry he is currently sitting on his balls in perpetuity, choking the supply of testosterone.

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DMF1898 4 points ago +4 / -0

Feels good to have such a based governor. If Stacey Abrams had won this would have gone way worse for us.

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mixednuts86 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lucky fuckers.

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IncredibleMrE1 27 points ago +31 / -4

Fuck Brian Kemp for putting corrupt Kelly Loeffler, the NYSE chairman's wife, in that Senate seat instead of Doug Collins (who GEOTUS requested).

With that said, credit where due, and the other Republican governors need to take a dose of Growacet and do likewise.

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idonthaveahobby 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yes, and he couldn't get the Hate Crime Bill, which we have never had, signed fast enough during the riots. He did not send in the National Guard to the Wendy's fast enough and a little girl was killed and a white couple was dragged out of their car and beaten. For days, the "protestors" at the Wendy's were not letting whites pass through the streets. He ran strongly on immigration and has done nothing about it. I still live in a sactuary county. He has soften the State's stance on allowing illegals to attend State colleges. He has been great on Covid. Everything else he has been a disappointment.

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theadj123 -1 points ago +4 / -5

Filling an empty Senate position is the governor's prerogative, not the President's. He had every right to put whoever he wanted into that seat.

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IncredibleMrE1 8 points ago +9 / -1

You are arguing against something I neither said nor implied.

If Kemp were truly MAGA, he would have appointed the person the President requested instead of a corrupt swamp princess. He has the right to put in whoever he wants. I'm just pointing out that the person he chose indicates where his true allegiance lies.

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Jonald_Trump 25 points ago +25 / -0

Thank God They couldn’t even mandate that in Iowa at levels under Governor Reynolds. Let’s give the first female governor of Iowa some recognition for not bending the knee to the leftist mobs in Iowa City, Cedar Rapids And Des Moines.

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JuicyfearsMAGA 14 points ago +14 / -0

Gov. Noam in South Dakota deserves credit as well

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Spacecat518 24 points ago +24 / -0

WTF is the obsession with masks? I have coworkers who freak the fuck out if someone has their mask down or doesn’t social distance, but everyone is touching the same doorknobs and keyboards and phones and I’m the only one that wipes the shit down. They post on social media about “science of masks” and “ don’t be selfish”, like they LIKE wearing them. I’m so over it they’re gross germ diapers.

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HillarysHairyAss 11 points ago +11 / -0

Maybe because it covers their ugly faces.

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WhitePowerRanger 1 point ago +1 / -0

That’s why I like them.... I’m regrowing my beard out and it’s not very sexy in the beginning stages lol

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Modus_Pwninz 7 points ago +7 / -0

These are the same people who will be praising the common sense and wonders of having a microchip implanted in their forehead because it opens doors automatically for them and they don't have to swipe a card to pay for shit. "I mean who wants to touch germy door knobs and credit card swipers? They're practically savages!"

It's maddening how many people choose convenience and novelty over freedom.

If you told them you'd give them $1000/mo and all they had to do was slam their balls in an oven door, they'd form a line in front of the oven and then be shocked when they get pushed inside.

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skumario 21 points ago +21 / -0

If only our Cuck Abbott could do the same.

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cook_does 20 points ago +20 / -0

Now if Governor Abbot in Texas would stand for what is right..... Oh yea, the tree, he cannot stand.

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sustainable_saltmine 16 points ago +16 / -0

He's all alone though. Besides South Dakota. Everyone else, even people we thought were based, sold out.

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CisSiberianOrchestra [S] 15 points ago +15 / -0

Kristi Noam of South Dakota is probably my favorite governor in the country right now. Because of her, South Dakota is the only state in the country that didn't impose any form of lockdown on its residents. Business owners threw a parade in her honor as thanks.

She's also pretty easy on the eyes.

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YaBoiJacob 4 points ago +4 / -0

Noem is considered too left wing by some people I've spoken too in the western half of SD, then again 90% of these people think being gay should be illegal lol

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JuicyfearsMAGA 4 points ago +4 / -0

When it came time to fight the virus without destroying her state economy or trampling civil liberties, she rose to the occasion. You can count those govornors on one hand.

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Joesf23 13 points ago +13 / -0

Fucking finally! GOP showing signs of a pulse.

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bchdrum22 13 points ago +13 / -0

Sweet! Now do Florida

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Kekintosh2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ron could stop appeasing the mob(PlandDemic and BLM) and end the madness. Masks allow criminals to go nuts and also encroach on liberties not abridged during true pandemics 60x more deadly.

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chuckachookah 4 points ago +4 / -0

But will he.

He is being cornered by the media and the leftards that are over reporting positives.

But, Governor DeSantis... it’s called BALLS!! You have them, you have to end the city and county tyrants running amuck.

There are paid bureaucrats (code enforcement officers) hiding outside establishments waiting outside of businesses waiting to order law abiding citizens to strap a face diaper on their face or be fined and potentially arrested. The idea that that’s a possibility is insane.

Follow the example Governor Kemp has set and out an end to this madness.

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Kekintosh2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's very easy to end it when the "numbers" are veritable frauds. The state DOH website says they're adding "probable" and "suspicious person under investigation" into the caseloads without ever taking the fraudulent PCR tests. He just had to man the fuck up like he knew he had to once he accepted the RNC in Jax.

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chuckachookah 5 points ago +5 / -0 (edited)

The positives have been redefined AND there is fraud/fuckery.

They are now counting and reporting a POSITIVE as:

  • Someone that active COVID
  • The immediate total family members for that active COVID
  • Someone that tests for antibodies (not active; not sick; can’t infect anyone)

These definition changes were proposed in late April, adopted in May and went into effect. And the 1st Week of June saw an ”explosion” of cases.

Put aside the motivations for a second and it’s very obvious this isn’t a HEALTH threat, this is a DATA REPORTING consequence.

The real measure is what the media and the counties will not report on:

  • COVID hospitalizations are flat or down.
  • COVID deaths are WAY down.
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MarisaKirii 2 points ago +2 / -0

Michigan too! As of 7/13 its a $500 fine for not wearing a mask in public

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bchdrum22 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most police departments refuse to enforce the order. Why would they, she was marching shoulder to shoulder In a BLM protest and says that the supports the “spirit” of defund the police. Sorry, Karen.

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kimjongveryill 13 points ago +13 / -0

I think Idahos governor should take inspiration! Good job Georgia!

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Aquamine-Amarine 12 points ago +12 / -0

Call them Mask Nazis.

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Cyer6 4 points ago +4 / -0

Branch Covidians

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txladyvoter 11 points ago +12 / -1

God bless you Governor Kemp!

This is the way!

Gov Abbott should take a good look at this.

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InSaNeOldGuy 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yo......... ABBOTT. Are You Paying Attention To This???

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Kekintosh2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

Abbot is trying to be a Standup Guy, not working well.

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InSaNeOldGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Right... DemocRAT mayors in Texas are running rampant with all kinds of "laws" requiring everybody to wear freaking masks. Which do NOT work.

It's unconstitutional because this crap was not heard by a judge much less passed by State Representatives and Senators / Signed by Abbott. All bullshit.............

We need to reopen schools on time, or this state is going to suffer bigtime and Abbott won't survive reelection in 2022.

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Kekintosh2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

If schools won't open then the property taxes that pay for them WILL BE WITHHELD

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InSaNeOldGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

I know Trump spoke of withholding Federal funds (not sure if possible), but I've heard nothing of local property taxes being withheld. You have a link for that?

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Kekintosh2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

A "spontaneous" tax strike will remedy this situation. Let's look up how to fuck the escrow account up.

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MakeAmericaLegendary 9 points ago +10 / -1

Anyone in Georgia need a roommate?

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PropagandaWizard1984 9 points ago +9 / -0

MSM is pushing Sweden as a failure because they refused to lock down. This site shows daily deaths of 0-10 a day in Sweden in July. The virus is all but gone from their population. How is that a failure?

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Criss_P_Bacon 8 points ago +9 / -1

Don’t believe this isn’t political? Try not wearing a mask and see what type of people shame you.

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Erikabodereka 7 points ago +7 / -0

I dont wear a mask. If I've been shamed, I'm oblivious to it because I have a secret superpower- I don't give a fuck.

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chuckachookah 5 points ago +5 / -0

Can’t be shamed if you don’t give a fuck.

If you must retort, ask the Karen “how much overweight they are?” Their health is their business, my health is mine, so fuck off

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SlavicNationalist666 7 points ago +7 / -0

Trump just won against masks.

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lockedNLoaded2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

Its a start, Republicans need to show people the difference with Dems who want to Control and Destroy!

SO far they been mute and weak, this could start GOP around the Country doing the same!

Dems are gonna Dem but show the people how YOU are different, safety doesn't mean needing to be dominated by Commie Soy enthusiast!

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TheBroodwich 6 points ago +6 / -0

I only wear a mask under 1 condition; when I would lose my job and paycheck if I don't.

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mickusa1 6 points ago +6 / -0

Its why I voted for that guy

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thuggishruggishtrump 6 points ago +6 / -0

Now we need Abbott to do the same but he's a pussy so I doubt it.

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SuperSaiyanPOTUS 5 points ago +5 / -0

I live in a state that requires masks. I dont wear one and no one gives af.

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rentfREEEE_since2016 5 points ago +6 / -1

You’re gonna need local law enforcement and other groups to stand by their citizens who don’t wear masks. Otherwise this order means diddly squat. Shithole Dem mayors are still going to “insist” that masks have to be worn.

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chuckachookah 3 points ago +4 / -1

You don’t get it... it is not Law Enforcement Officers being asked to address this; it is CODE enforcement officers.

I have reviewed about a dozen of these city and/county orders and ALL of them have empowered untrained personnel to begin engaging the public with near absolutely authority. They are being given authority to issue citations and begin an arrest for repeated refusal (after the succession of citations). And get this, they even have the authority to issue you citations even after you agree to leave.

Code enforcement officers normally deal with businesses, homeowner associations, etc. They are basic hires and frankly these cities and counties are very irresponsible placing this level of authority in their hands.

So these cities and counties have found a CHEAP mechanism to collect CITATION MONEY.

So, now, it’s not just about POWER, it’s also about city/county MONEY.

They need to be told to fuck off.

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rentfREEEE_since2016 0 points ago +1 / -1

Actually I agree with you. My point is simply that this is going to get enforced on a local level. So people need to push back on the local level.

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chuckachookah 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yes.

But state governors have a big say. And the city (or county) officials have to address the power of the People and the powers of the office of the Governor.

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TheMadManDidItAgain 5 points ago +5 / -0

PLEASE do Ohio next.

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TheMadManDidItAgain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amy Acton got a $50K raise!

We need to end the State of Emergency in Ohio now, and the state legislators are all sitting on their hands.

You gotta follow Jack Windsor. He's the only reporter I know of who is constantly asking great questions of our state legislators and governor, and they always deflect.

Jack Windsor does what real reporting and real journalism should be.

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ToPedeOrNotToPede 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's great. All these governors and their EO mask mandates have gotten extremely out of hand. Local and State Executives have become way too powerful and unbalanced. Many states are basically mini-dictatorships with all the end runs around states legislatures.

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DexterM1776 5 points ago +6 / -1

They where smart. They knew the general public would tell them to fuck off with their mask requirement. So they changed course and said you wear a mask to protect the people around you. That gave the SJW the moral upper hand to shame people for not caring about the people around them.

It's all bullshit, but sheep gonna sheep.

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TrumpsThrowaway 4 points ago +4 / -0

In before Hawaiian judge declares everyone must wear masks anyway

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Aristile 4 points ago +4 / -0

♪Georgia, Georgia♪ ... ♪Just an old sweet song keeps Georgia,♪ ♪On my miiiind,♪

I love my state to death sometimes.

Best Supreme Court justice, the first locked down state to say "EFF This" and end the lockdown when it realized it was hurting more than helping, super conservative and downright polite folks outside of the major cities and college/tourist towns.

Just... Ignore... literally everything that comes from Atlanta, that bucktoothed racist whacko that we almost had as our gubbaner, and that peanut idjit we sent to the white house that one time.

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CountryState_of_Mind 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thank God! A Governor who opened up earlier than other States and now standing up against mask tyranny.

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Chestbras 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh noes, now we'll have data that States without mandatory masks laws aren't doing worse, proving masks don't do shit!
Some people will have their jimmy all frumpy and shit now.

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Choppermagic 3 points ago +3 / -0

Georgia sounds like a great place to live

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SnakeEyes 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank God.

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SomeSAHM 3 points ago +3 / -0

God bless Georgia

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SmokeyMeadow 3 points ago +3 / -0

From the day he saved us from a Stacey Abrams administration, I've been singing Governor Kemp's praises. Over the months of this hellish year, that singing has gotten progressively louder. At this point, I may be violating certain noises ordinances with my song of praise. He really is the last line of defense for these unconstitutional local power grabs. He put us back to work instead of cowering in fear like a bunch of pussies, and now he's stared down the mask police. Who did the stupid mayor of Atlanta think was going to enforce her edict? The cops who have been on strike for a month? Fuck outta here with that shit.

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ChubbyDubzworth 3 points ago +3 / -0

My man!

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Plutossextape1 3 points ago +3 / -0

INB4 Hawaiian judge rules governors have no authority in their states.

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Modus_Pwninz 3 points ago +3 / -0

I've never wanted to be a politician until covid. If I was the Governor of my state, I never would have used my authority to close anything. It's such an abuse of power it's maddening. Just because you may think you have an authority doesn't mean you need to use it, you spineless weasels. Damn near every single Governor in the entire country abused their power and used it against citizens. Isn't South Dakota the only state that didn't order shit closed? Or did SD even abuse the power?

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tokenninja 3 points ago +3 / -0

Abbott needs to do this too ASAP

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Navypilot100 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is what leadership looks like

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HeavyVetting 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Everyone in Georgia will die!" screech the Democrats. Again.

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Mavdick96 3 points ago +3 / -0

WE NEED THIS IN TEXAS. Hell, the whole fucking country too!

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Mavdick96 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh, but wait, my governor is a fucking faggot.

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RabidZoo 3 points ago +3 / -0

What fucking "science" Van Jones? The science that Fauci said masks don't fucking work?! These people are fucking morons through and through.

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wuthee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Long live Governor Kemp! He's a stallion

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coachQanon19 3 points ago +3 / -0

Florida Governor DeSantis better get on the stick and follow Governor Kemp's example. Otherwise stop pandering to Conservatives here in Florida. Police are being used to enforce unconstitutional mask mandates.

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CaptainChrisPBacon 3 points ago +3 / -0

Gov Of Georgia stands up to the Mask Gestapo.He bans cities and counties from requiring you to wear a mask.The Government has no business telling you to wear something. If you feel the need to wear one...wear it.If not you should not be forced to wear one..or shamed into wearing one. Thank You Gov for protecting the Constitution.

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CisSiberianOrchestra [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

The government's job is to protect my freedom, not my health. I can make my own decision about whether or not to wear a mask.

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AbrahamLincoln 3 points ago +3 / -0

What's the list of states that aren't completely retarded? GA and SD? Anywhere else?

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Tonightm05 3 points ago +4 / -1

If masks helped that much we would have been told to wear them day 1. People would have seen that it could have helped. As there were cases back then. Would a cloth mask help back then? Maybe for public transport. Who the fuck knows as no study has ever been carried out in all this time.

But to make people wear them (in most cases) only now after 4 months of the pandemic?

The thing is now people only see them as an infringement of freedom. Not something to stop whatever spread is happening.

Most if not all BLM never wore masks while rioting and ""protesting""?

Like I said if from day 1 people wear told to wear masks even people that would have been totally against masks now would have maybe worn them back then. At least in shops.

I personally see orders to wear masks now as the far left preparing for more total lockdown near November. As if cases spike at all they will use "we tried everything" excuse and total lockdowns will come back in. As getting people to wear masks early would destroy that plan.

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james_stinton789 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's funny because the lockdowns and such are why this mess is dragging on and on. Without a vaccine, there is no route to getting through this except herd immunity, which you DELAY from lockdowns. Let the fragile stay isolated and let everyone else live life full-bore. Herd immunity will be achieved and we can move on.Even a leftist in another forum about Governor Kemp's order admitted that, but then went on and on about how all the deaths will be blood on Kemp's hands. Sorry, that blood is on Red China!

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chuckachookah 6 points ago +6 / -0

Dude, stop buying into the vaccine thing. Don’t even give it any oxygen.

THERE IS NO VACCINE FOR THE FLU!!!

THERE WILL NOT BE A VACCINE FOR THIS!!!

HCQ+Z-pack+zinc is PROVEN treatment.

VitaminD (sunshine), Vitamin C, & Zinc AND washing your fucking hands is as good a preventative steps as anyone can take.

Not being a fat fuck helps. Not being locked in your house helps. Not already having other concerning conditions helps.

This virus is NOT what we have been told, so don’t give a millimeter on the language or techniques.

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HiddenDekuScrub 1 point ago +1 / -0

Um, didn't he just say there wasn't one and that we needed to just let herd immunity do the job?

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chuckachookah 1 point ago +1 / -0

I misread it slightly, but we need to be more declarative.

THERE WILL NOT BE A VACCINE, so WE NEED TO DEMASK and MOVE ON.

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driveshack 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is america, those who want to wear a mask should, and those who dont shouldn't have to.

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Nukular-Weapons 3 points ago +3 / -0

thas raysist

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TheRooster 3 points ago +3 / -0
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MAGAJuice 3 points ago +3 / -0

Now fucking ban companies like Sams Club and Best Buy from requiring masks too. Fucking stupid.

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FreedomFromGovt 1 point ago +1 / -0

In my area, Best Buy requires you to make an appointment before being allowed to enter the store. Not just no, but 'fuck straight off into orbit'--levels of no.

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SlavicNationalist666 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't want to see any mask at the Jacksonville rally!!!!

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Psycochico 2 points ago +2 / -0

He's getting a lot of hate here from the REEE patrol on FB and elsewhere, but he's absolutely right that the government can fuck right off with the mandates.

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parshal34 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don’t trust any “study” you see on masks until there is a randomized control trial performed on mask use. This would eliminate omitted variable bias and have strong links to internal validity of mask wear or no mask wear. Until that happens, do not believe the fear porn. Thankfully I just took a graduate level course in multivariate regression analysis.

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JohnBarron 2 points ago +2 / -0

TN governor needs to take a lesson from this dude, real MF'r right here

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Thingthing22 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fucking Abbot needs to eat shit.

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madlad2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can't wait to see the reported cases and percentages suddenly fall now that Trump stopped taking the CDC's word on bogus data. It defies logic that the CDC would accept a positive confirmed case rate of 100% without suspecting fuckary.

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commonsenseprevails 2 points ago +2 / -0

Georgia is very lucky they have Brian Kemp. He’s second to Noem from SD in raising their political stock from this entire plandemic.

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Nimblenavigator1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kemp is absolutely based. Anyone ‘member his campaign ads?

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physicscat 2 points ago +2 / -0

You poeple have no idea how grateful I am to have lived in Georgia my whole life.

This COVID thing hasn't been that different for me at all.

I wore a mask, once, atvthe request of the vets office when my cat was sick.

That's it. I was hoping we were going back to school, my school system was opening on time, but now it looks like we may be following the crazies and doing virtual school, which is pointless. Seriously.

Kemp is getting a lot of flack, but he's making the right decision.

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Kinestron 2 points ago +2 / -0

we will continue to keep the faith and follow the science. Masks will continue to be available!

Faith? So Mayor Van Johnson is admitting this is a cult?

Georgia reported 3,871 new confirmed coronavirus cases and 37 deaths on Wednesday. It was the second-highest total since the start of the pandemic.

That is assuming reporting is accurate and administrators did not tell their doctors to mark people with a comorbity as a covid death.

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DRKMSTR 2 points ago +2 / -0

The WUFLU is only dangerous to Democrat Cities, change my mind.

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Block_Helen 2 points ago +2 / -0

GREG ABBOTT ARE YOU LISTENING?

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VenomSnake69 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pimp move. Watch Greg Abbot increase the mask rules just to be a bitch.

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SemperFree 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is there anyone else fighting back? Any law groups pushing back. Some counties have a 1000.00 fine and or 1 year in jail for not following.

These orders are Un-American, Communist and we need to push back, legally.

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StarPlatinum123 2 points ago +2 / -0

Small government. That's how we like it.

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MAGA_4EVER 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank GOD

I believe this probably has something to do with Trump removing the CDC from the process of counting deaths/infections.

I'm happy this dude is getting ahead of it.

I just have a feeling all this mask Bs is about to end. I've been wrong before though

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CisSiberianOrchestra [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I really hope you're right.

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Woohan 2 points ago +2 / -0

I AM SO HAPPY I LIVE IN GEORGIA!! enough said.

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bill_in_texas 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe Brian can make a phone call to his Texas counterpart, Greg Abbott, and explain to Abbott what not being a pussy is all about. Recommendations? Yeah, sure, no problem. Diktats complete with police enforcement? Nah.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

ABOUT FUCK8NG TIME

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booblitchutz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Meanwhile Texas Governor Gregg Abbott says this:

"I know that many of you all are frustrated. So am I,” said Abbott. “I know that many of you do not like the mask requirement. I don’t either. It is the last thing that I wanted to do. Actually, the next to last. The last thing that any of us want is to lock Texas back down again."

Abbott talks and talks and conveniently avoids the subject of what impact riots/protests have had on the spread of the virus. Is not being forthcoming about what, if any, oversight is being placed on reporting from labs, even as Bexar County (San Antonio) was caught overreporting covid cases by thousands. You know there are folks in Dallas, Tarrant, Harris counties that can reveal the same fuckery going on, but no.. just fucking crickets from Abbott!

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ACuriousWingnut 2 points ago +2 / -0

Based Alabamians are really pissed off right now.

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Right_of_Sinner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hahahha! Eat a bag of dicks Mayor Bottoms!!

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TruthyBrat 2 points ago +2 / -0

While I dislike KLB's policy, I don't think she's like Kamela Harris.

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EnforcerDesu 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wish he would extend his order to stop big business from forcing masks. I'm switching from Kroger to Publix. Kroger starts forcing masks 7/26. If it's that damn important why are you waiting so long? Feel-good crap.

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dparks2010 2 points ago +2 / -0

HEY, ABBOTT!! YOU LISTENING?!! - Texans

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BaberhamStinkin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let me ask this, if you go to Conpany X in Georgia and they require a mask and you don't. Your tresspassing? However, you can no longer enforce masks? Idgas anyways since I dont shop at walmart but how does it work out?

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dookiebot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Babylonbee: Brian Hemp elected governor in 48 states.

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Qwikphaze 2 points ago +2 / -0

So jealous!

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nukiebear 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lucky Georgians! Our cuckservative governor recently caved and issued a state-wide face mask mandate.

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Consumerbot381732 3 points ago +3 / -0

Arkansas?

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nukiebear 2 points ago +2 / -0

You have said it

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Consumerbot381732 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pretty disappointed myself. Can't possibly have had anything to do with Walmart/Sam's announcing their decision to require face coverings, to be implemented on Monday, as well.

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mateus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Proof, again, that Democrat governors are the tyrants. Atlanta's turned into a cesspool, but at least there's a freedom-lover at the top.

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dakin116 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hilarious how the liberal mayors in Georgia are Reeeeeeeeeeeee'ing about this, they don't like having their "power" taken away

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 2 points ago +2 / -0

Governer Brian /ourguy/ Kemp!!!! If you have never seen his campaign adds, here you go!

https://youtu.be/5Q1cfjh6VfE

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lixa 1 point ago +1 / -0

And Georgia earns itself a spot on the shortlist of places to live.

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ikuyas 1 point ago +1 / -0

The research on mask effects has been researched a few dozen years, and it doesn't work very well, and relying on the practice to prevent the virus spread is utterly unscientific. It is also politically bs because the government in turn just needs to focus on telling its residents to take a good nutritional care and stock the medicines that prove to work somewhat without much side effect. We know you need to have a sufficient vitamin D, zinc, and you should not be obese. The local clinics should stock HQC, Budesonide, and Avigan.

I had very fat lesbian roommates until May and they were so hysteric about the virus in a house and I cannot count how many times I wanted to tell them to lose fucking weight.

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Winterfires 1 point ago +1 / -0

If any business refuses service for not wearing a mask, then never shop there ever again. And fucking never go back - all u guys act so hard and then go back to being a pussy the minute you get off of SM. LETS SEE, how many are you still shopping at target after you all said you wouldn't over they put tranny men in the ladies bathroom? Shit, I bet most you forgot about it.

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techadm 1 point ago +1 / -0

Funny how other countries have this "dem hoax" under control but America continues to struggle after pretending its not real. Weird.

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TrainerBill -7 points ago +1 / -8

Oh my fucking god Georgia is gonna go blue this election because of shit like this.

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kgpz -8 points ago +2 / -10

Sorry y'all but this is where the line is drawn for me. You wear a seatbelt in your best interest and in the interest of anyone for whom you may turn into a projectile upon a severe car crash. Unless you have some sort of extreme anxiety or a health issue that prevents you from breathing properly, wear a mask, stop the spread of covid-19.

The US is 2% of the world population and 25% of covid-19 cases. I'm sick and tired of the extreme selfishness of the Right on this. I support Trump in many, many ways, but this is simply not one of them.

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Consumerbot381732 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just trying to understand your state of mind. What's the point? You do understand that now that Pandora's Box has been opened, there's no "stopping the spread", right? Only slowing it...

To my knowledge, there's no shortage of supplies, meds, hospital beds, etc. So again, I'd ask: what's the point? "Slowing the spread" will only draw out the time it takes to achieve herd immunity and put this mess behind us.

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kgpz -1 points ago +1 / -2

Why be defeatist? If people could wrap their minds around the fact that this is for the public good and that they could be saving lives if they wear a mask, slowing the spread would at least mean something.

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Consumerbot381732 1 point ago +1 / -0

I, personally, am having difficulty wrapping my mind around how, exactly, I might be "saving a life", if it's a given that everyone will eventually be exposed, regardless of social distancing, lockdowns, and mask usage. We were supposed to be "flattening the curve" to avoid resource shortages. There aren't any, to my knowledge. And if there were, I could appreciate localized requirements to slow the spread/flatten the curve.

I don't understand the "defeatist" question. To me, donning a mask seems defeatist: giving up on standing up for truth and what's right. I'm genuinely reaching out here, trying to understand why we should be sacrificing our comfort and health (albeit a negligible amount) and liberty (!!!!) to slow the spread and postpone herd immunity, since "stopping" it is absolutely impossible.

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Faffz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nobody gives a shit dude. Literally nobody gives a fuck.

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cygnusx -9 points ago +3 / -12

contrarian opinion, but there should be a mask mandate.

if you go on a construction jobsite, you have to wear PPE. a hard hat, safety glasses, etc, are all required. if you're a doctor, you have to have the right sterilization procedures for surgery, patient checks, etc.

we are in a pandemic. deny it all you want, but i've lost 2 friends to it now. we need to be able to force ppe on the public just as we do a construction jobsite or hospital

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AbrahamLincoln 6 points ago +7 / -1

Masks don't work, dummy. They aren't PPE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZcTqW1Ngj4

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madlad2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

Virologists in Wuhan wear a full body suit that looks like a hazmat suit. Taping a loose fitting kleenix over your face that isn't even N95, let alone P100 rated isn't going to do anything except make you feel better. It has more to do with preventing mass panic then it does actual science. (That is why they are telling the general public that anything can be a mask).

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cygnusx -3 points ago +1 / -4

I can find you dozens of articles saying they are effective. Not 100% effective, but statistically helpful. Here is one article from fox

https://www.foxnews.com/science/countries-early-adoption-face-masks-modest-coronavirus-infection-rates

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womp_squared 1 point ago +1 / -0

Only way I would accept this. Yesterday CDC guy said if we all wear masks it will be gone in 4,6, or 8 weeks. Fine. We all wear masks for 2 months BUT everything is open with absolutely zero restrictions. Life is back to normal with the exception of the mask. After those 2 months if you wear a mask you are guilty of causing a public panic and all those fines and jail time cities are enforcing now will be applied to you.

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Mike0neSix 0 points ago +1 / -1

"need to be able to force" Take your ass back to Portland, Commie!!!