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LadyWhoLovesTrump 132 points ago +132 / -0

This is such great news. I'm most curious if it matters when it's taken,; i.e. early onset or when hospitalized.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 60 points ago +60 / -0

Post the link yourself on like FB or something, you’ll see a graph as the link pop up that shows exactly that

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tonysoprano 18 points ago +18 / -0

Thank you for posting this!

Do you have any insight into the timing and duration of the various designated stages listed?

PrEP PEP Early Late

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 14 points ago +14 / -0

Yes, take it early before the virus has a chance to multiply.. the stages and times vary based on viral load

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GoneWithTheTide 11 points ago +11 / -0 (edited)

PrEP and PEP are pre exposure prophylaxis and post exposure prophylaxis.

PrEP is something that you would take every day to prevent something - if you don't have a spleen, taking an antibiotic every day to prevent certain bacteria from affecting you, for instance. In the context of the study site, how effective taking hydroxychloroquine is at preventing cases of COVID-19. Many of those studies show that cases in HCQ PrEP were reduced, meaning, fewer cases in those taking the PrEP.

PEP are something that you would take if you were around someone with COVID-19. If someone in your household had it, what everyone else in the household should take, even if they weren't showing symptoms. The studies don't seem as strong in that case, but at least one of the studies there shows diminished cases.

Early vs late changes from study to study, but a general consensus that I determined from a brief skim was that less than 3 days is early.

Late seems to be 'advanced/severe disease' rather than a time course, by many of these studies..

Oseltamivir, a drug we take for the flu virus, needs to be taken within 48 hours of flu exposure for best effect. I'd imagine that HCQ might behave the same.

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tonysoprano 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you, pede! This was very helpful!

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meals23 18 points ago +18 / -0

it appears that it doesn't matter at all, the President has admitted that he was taking it preemptively without showing any symptoms at all for months, and the studies done on its effectiveness have been on patients at all stages of the disease

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CantThinkOfUserName 28 points ago +28 / -0

Some Lupus patients take it everyday for treatment of their disease. If someone with an already compromised immune system can take HCQ daily then most people will be able to take it without major side effects.

Cucks like Neil Cavuto screaming that people will die from taking HCQ have no shame.

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nutup_orshutup 6 points ago +6 / -0

I would love to see the percentage of lupus and RA patients who died from covid.

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cheesecakelove 5 points ago +5 / -0

I guarantee it low as all fuck.

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nutup_orshutup 2 points ago +2 / -0

Apparently somewhere else in this thread they examined 10,000 lupus patients for cv. Zero finds.

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Toohershat 9 points ago +9 / -0

Well most all of the studies returning Negative results were late stage - some mentioned "extremely sick" patients. I think at a certain point, a sickly, elderly person who also has it might be a bit too far gone for HCQ to turn things around for them. This of course does not alter the wonders of this drug for most people with covid or those seeking Preemptive treatments.

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cheesecakelove 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah that’s exactly what happens. The drug inhibits the virus from replicating. So if you give it after the virus has proliferated its too late. Of course these shitheads would never report the details or even do a legitimate study.

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A_Flappy_Civic 16 points ago +38 / -22

Good news. You never have to worry because you won't get a fake virus.

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TonsOfSalt 71 points ago +71 / -0

It's real, just a ridiculously overblown response to the actual risk it presents.

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Scroon 25 points ago +26 / -1

Yup. I think what happened was the initial release was somewhat potent, like a superflu, but it quickly mutated into something inconsequential since the engineered genome wasn't stable.

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SordidPontification 31 points ago +31 / -0

I'm increasingly more convinced this is part of it. 1) Younger population being infected, 2) evolving into a weaker strain, and 3) a better idea of treatment protocols and supplementation. It's no coincidence that the people sewing panic about SARS-CoV-2 were the same ones swearing you can't do anything to boost your immune system... then the vitamin D3 studies came out suggesting people with poor outcomes were--surprise!--vitamin D deficient (pro-tip: this explains why people with darker skin had poorer outcomes).

But, we all know the real truth. This was overblown to wreck Trump's economy.

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ProphetOfKek 11 points ago +11 / -0

I truly believe the Chinese ineptly allowed it to escape, but if they were going down they were taking the rest of the world with them.

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JeremiahKassin 8 points ago +11 / -3

Don't kid yourself. They brought a brick of dry ice loaded with the stuff to a wet market. They had agents infected with it spitting on elevator buttons and staircase railings. They did this on purpose.

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ProphetOfKek 8 points ago +8 / -0

That’s the first I’ve heard of that. I don’t get why they’d start it in their own country first.

... continue reading thread?
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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yup.

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SordidPontification 4 points ago +4 / -0

I didn't buy into this theory at first, I'll be honest.

But the more I dug into it, the more I'm convinced it's true, and I think your argument of ineptitude is absolutely true.

My rationale is this:

  1. One of the researchers who was fired in Canada (Chinese) was an immunologist working on an Ebola vaccine.
  2. We know the Chinese try to be "first" at doing everything, as we saw with IgG/IgM antibody tests coming out of China that didn't work. Stealing Canadian data to try to fast-track a vaccine seems likely.
  3. The furin cleavage sites on the s-spike proteins in SARS-CoV-2 are shared among HIV, Ebola, and some strains of influenza and other coronaviruses. However, if you were aiming to develop a "safer" virus-based vaccine for HIV or Ebola, you'd probably do something with a coronavirus in bat populations to test since they're vectors for Ebola as well.
  4. The Wuhan lab specialized in coronaviruses.

So, if we assume SARS-CoV-2 was involved in vaccine research of some sort, it's not much of a stretch to imagine that they either inadvertently (because China) or deliberately (...because China) let it escape.

Then instead of doing the right thing and trying to contain it or inform other countries, they quietly swept it under the rug, which would explain why it appears it was spreading in China as early as November, possibly October.

Now, I'll say that I don't think the flu-like illness earlier this year was SARS-CoV-2 because the hospitalization rates don't match up. There's some speculation it was another, more closely related coronavirus, which would explain the antibody assays popping up in populations that were infected with "something" earlier this year.

But it does give me pause for thought. If there was a weaker variant of coronavirus floating around that's responsible for some limited immunity in populations even here in the US that would explain the spike in flu-like illness in Dec/Jan, what's the likelihood that one also originated in China and/or a Chinese lab?

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yes and they were creating a virus like this for exactly this purpose

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TonsOfSalt 7 points ago +7 / -0

Lots of reasons... the treatment strategy in the beginning was dead wrong.

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GoneWithTheTide 5 points ago +6 / -1 (edited)

It was dead wrong, and some might say inept.

Combined with moving COVID patients into nursing homes, a "conspiracy" theorist might say that it was a treatment strategy designed to kill as many people as possible, in all age groups.

However, I'd like to assume the best of the doctors prescribing ventilators. COVID does affect the breathing, and ventilators ideally breathe for you. And while it was very clear that ventilators didn't help in many cases, I do believe many doctors thought it was the only shot they had for severe disease, especially when the HCQ research was shot down by every major medical outlet after Trump's statements about the drug.

I hope that this series of events causes the medical field to take a good, long look at the dangers of politicizing medical research.

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TonsOfSalt 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trust me, no ulterior motives at least from the care provider. During the initial phases, everyone thought it was a form of ARDS and thus should be ventilated with that specific strategy in mind. As it became clearer that it was a primary micro clot issue impairing diffusion, everyone realized the ARDS vent settings were making things worse. The strategy changed when we realized it wasn't typical intrapulmonary ARDS. Focus shifted from early intubation to delayed while doing DVT prophylaxis and maximizing O2 delivery non-invasively. One of the added difficulties is that we were being pushed to avoid high flow systems and NIPPV because it was supposedly "aerosol generating" and increased risk of spreading it through the hospital.

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ADAM_SCHITT 3 points ago +3 / -0

Muh ventilators

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Basedcubandude 6 points ago +6 / -0

This is why potus keeps saying it will disappear! He knows more than we do!

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prayinpede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Im worried it was to make a certain group passive to the real weapon when its released until its too late

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A_Flappy_Civic 4 points ago +5 / -1

I have a hard time believing that after all the inconsistencies, officials giving us rules while not actually following them, and especially after the rioting which was allowed despite the "pandemic".

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UPplNoALotBoutTrucks 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why do you think they allow such inconsistencies? Their number 1 goal would be to spread the infection as much as possible, lies and confusion are key.

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Big_steve 22 points ago +24 / -2

It's real man.. Chris Cuomo from CNN even caught it, as if he would lie.

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deleted 16 points ago +16 / -0
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daflyboys 8 points ago +8 / -0

I'm afredo I don't know what you mean

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

He even too quinine, the “natural” version of Hydroxychloroquine. Ergo, he’s a cuck bitch

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ProphetOfKek 4 points ago +4 / -0

The natural, actually dangerous version of the drug.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yup! Quinine is actually wayyyy more dangerous than HCQ

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cheesecakelove 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can’t even believe you’d suggest that sarcastically. CNN and Fredo would never lie to me

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tinfoilcoronamask 8 points ago +9 / -1

Its real and will kill you if bitten by a shark while infected.

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arresthillaryclinton 7 points ago +9 / -2

The sniffles is real, but it won't kill you.

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GulagDweller 6 points ago +6 / -0

Wish we could find a cure for Communistic Libtardism, that is the the real life threatening virus of our time.

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Duderufuckinkidding 7 points ago +7 / -0

The cure is God. Just sayin.

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UPplNoALotBoutTrucks 5 points ago +5 / -0

To say the virus flat out doesn't exist is shortsighted.

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kag-2020- 5 points ago +7 / -2

Exactly, it's a cold. Very real and even deadly to the elderly, but shutting down society over it is absolute madness.

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Duderufuckinkidding 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m not sure why you were downvoted.

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Midnight_Pede 2 points ago +2 / -0

We can be against the stupidity of over blowing of COVID, but let's not act retarded and use terms like "fake virus". Don't dumb down the conversation.

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maxkenn 11 points ago +11 / -0

It's a preventative (prophylactic). Actually, it's an anti-viral, it doesn't directly kill it, but it slows it down so much that it prevents it's spread and makes it easier to get rid of.
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That' why only giving it to patients that are critically ill was intentionally trying to sabotage it.

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thallos 4 points ago +4 / -0

It appears to be an effective treatment for people who are positive also. It's not a cure but it can dramatically improve your chances.

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Warskullx 10 points ago +10 / -0 (edited)

It does, the earlier the better. It is anti-viral. It doesn't work once the virus has ravaged your body.

The big thing is that HCQ is a pretty safe drug, that doesn't require hospitalization. You can't use Redemsivir outside of a hospital. With HCQ, you can give them some HCQ and a Z-pak and start them the moment you believe they have COVID-19. Stop them from ever getting hospitalized in the first place.

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hulda824 2 points ago +2 / -0

in many Countries HCQ is routinely given as a prophylactic for malaria. Wil be interesting to see what the Covid rate is in those Countries. Laura Ingraham says she travels to Africa regularly, and her MD always gives her a dose before she goes...bc malaria. it's a very common and cheap drug.

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The_Emperor 1 point ago +2 / -1

Don't go to hospital, don't get worse. Sadly, hospital is where you go when you're so sick you might die.

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Demig80 3 points ago +3 / -0

Should be taken as a preventative. Early onset. I'm doubtful about the studies that show it helping later on still.

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prayinpede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ive also heard to not take vitD or elderberry too. I wonder if these will turnout to be like hcq. Elderberry chews were the only form of zinc i could find for awhile. Now supposedly they can cause a cytokine storm. I hate how politicized science has gotten, maybe im just noticing it beyond CC

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jubale 5 points ago +5 / -0

There is no chance vitD is bad for you in any circumstance. Get outside enjoy the sunlight (don't burn) and you'll be the healthiest you can be.

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prayinpede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Im still taking mine and this is the first time in years ive had a tan. He's what i read i don't trust it though https://integrativemedicine.arizona.edu/COVID19/FAQ.html

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memeymckek 1 point ago +1 / -0

That says not to take it if actively infected.

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jubale 1 point ago +1 / -0

What I read here: get all the D and elderberry you want and you will stop the virus before it gets started. If you do get seriously ill then you shouldn't take it.

I could buy that.

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Faintlight 3 points ago +3 / -0

You want to take it early on, either preventatively or right as you catch it, along with zinc.

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NotSorryLuvTrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pharmacies have been seeing a huge boost of off label usage, ie not for malaria, since February.

The answer to your question is complex because it looks like few actual cases require hospitalization and because a lot of this media negative tests have patients with a lot of other complex conditions, ie diabetes, cancer, hypertension.

For examp,e, Arizona only has a 5% hospitalization rate for cases. That means a lot of those cases are minimal symptoms or asymptomatic. For what I understand from my pharmacist peers, getting hcq at that time should be virtually harm free. Remember, you’re taking this z pak for a week. I believe I’ve seen talks about rashes as the rare short term side effect.

If you require hospitalization it’s likely for the complications and that’s when it gets hard to determine

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NoBiden2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

It does, early.

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GulagDweller 2 points ago +2 / -0

Doesn't matter, they could conduct a thousand studies all showing Hydroxychloroquine as 100% effective and the the Leftist Politicians in charge would ban it from use. They want Americans to die and as usual, at the same time, they will take it and provide it to their families and Commie friends.

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yukondave 2 points ago +3 / -1

If I get the Covid please provide what is the script I need to tell my doctor to give me?

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thallos 2 points ago +2 / -0

Worker better earlier and there is a point where it seems to have no impact or maybe negative impact but those cases are in bad shape regardless

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Durtybirdy 2 points ago +2 / -0

I listen to a radio show with a dr. as a cohost. He said that it's highly effective early but almost worthless if it gets to the point of hospitalization.

Fyi... same radio show that the liberals tried to use to bring down tucker a few years ago. Bubba the Love Sponge

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kesquare2 43 points ago +43 / -0

Bookmarked.

Awesome display of data.

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trumplandslide 38 points ago +38 / -0

Here is my own compilation, that may be useful as well:

Hydroxychloroquine Facts:

– Used for 60+ years (1958)

– 100+ Million people used it

– Safely used for long time (years) by Lupus patients

– 10,000 Lupus users tested, not a single one tested positive on Corona Virus

– CDC declared it as safe to take for even pregnant women

– Out of patent = free market = cheap ($20 for treatment)

– Used in India as preventative

– French scientific study over 1,000 patients, 98% cure rate

– Brazil hospital, 90 deaths before HCQ, 0 deaths on 500 patients after using HCQ

– New York Doctor (Dr. Zelenko) 98% success rate on hundreds of patients

Be aware of the BS “studies” that try to disprove the above:

– Above recommended dosage it is dangerous. Really? You can kill people with too much water!

– Below recommend dosage (instead of 400 mg they used 100 mg) – Not very effective, no kidding!

– Doing a “blind study” where instead of comparing to a placebo like a sugar ill they used another effective treatment (vitamin C). This was a Gates funded study

– Dismissing it because it is not 100% effective. The flu vaccine has an average of about 30-70% effectiveness. Almost nothing has 100% effectiveness.

– Used too late and without Zinc for Corona virus. HCQ and zinc can stop the virus from replicating, but it does not repair damage. HCQ without zinc is not very effective.

– Skewing the baseline, e.g. using sicker patients for HCQ test than the alternative test

and on and on.

The most recent VA study used at least no zinc, too late and had more sick patients in the HCQ group than the other, see https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/devastating-renown

ed-french-dr-didier-raoult-destroys-liberal-trump-hating-media-va-junk-report-hydroxychloroquine-video/

Hope this is useful.

Link: CDC declaring HCQ as safe:

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/hydroxychloroquine.pdf

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Miasmo 7 points ago +7 / -0

The 10,000 lupus cases with none positive for Covid is very interesting. Can you provide a link to that? Maybe there's our 'vaccine'.

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Afeazo 9 points ago +9 / -0

Nah, we need a $3,500 cure and we need the government to purchase ~370 million doses of it for every man woman and xir in America. Please pay no attention to the board members of the company or how they are related to top government officials.

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Thehoytime 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you for xir. I was about to think for myself.

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RunningBuffalo 5 points ago +5 / -0

I have a coworker whose mom has Lupus and was on HCQ for routine maintenance. She is in NYC and caught the Rona, but it was pretty mild; she cleared it completely in less than a week.

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Aspielogic2 9 points ago +9 / -0

Here's an archived version for your records.

Just in case the page 'cannot be found' later on.

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Fraeleo 36 points ago +36 / -0

Please keep this sticked for a while.

This is what we need, compilations of data that are easy to digest that we can easily share with memorable URLs.

This is the most effective form of educating those who have been gaslighted by constant fake news for 3+ years.

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LibertyStillMatters 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yes it should. This data set is one of THE battles. We had nearly every American news outlet gaslighting and pushing negative narratives about this drug so the pandemic would stay serious and prolonged. They advocated for American deaths to score cheap political points. Plain and simple.

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Fraeleo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed 100%.

How do we get in contact with the mods to make it happen?

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incogneato 30 points ago +30 / -0 (edited)

It is unbelievable that these people got away with saying that hydroxychloroquine was unsafe and "would kill you" if you took it. That is absolutely criminal and you can be sure that people died because of it. They were denied a cheap, effective, and readily available treatment for COVID-19 and simply left to suffer on ventilators until they died.

The Globalist Left only did this because the pandemic wouldn't help them if there was a simple cure for it.

HCQ has been around for decades. It is very well studied and very well understood. It is a form of quinine, which has been around since the turn of the 20th century and is also very well studied and very well understood.

Evil, evil criminals. This NEVER should have happened and should NEVER be allowed to happen again.

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ProdigalSon1997 13 points ago +13 / -0

I hope nearly everybody (except the far-left who are behind this & won't ever change, no matter what)will unanimously agree that the Democrat Party is done. Absolutely no more. In my opinion, this the biggest attack on our country ever, and the people behind it, if not in this life, will be severely punished by God for the evil they've caused to all of us, the lives they've destroyed, and so forth.

I guarantee you that no normal person will ever want to support the Democrats again after this. I can't believe it had to take a pandemic to get the majority to wake up, as glad that I am that it's at least happened. It's absolutely sickening that more people didn't wake up sooner, then we would have a better chance at stopping this massive incident from ever occurring.

Justice should and WILL be served

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magastrophysicist 5 points ago +5 / -0

As far as I am concerned, the Dims are responsible (via downplaying HCQ+AZ+Z) for many dozens of 9/11s worth of bodies.

The party of death should never be forgiven.

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SheepleMaster 3 points ago +3 / -0

Except nearly all the media is STILL lying and propagandizing. And countless millions of people still believe it.

So common sense all you want, but a major swathe of society won't accept ANYTHING as truth except what the MSM tells them.

No changes that you want will happen until that control structure crumbles.

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williammcfadden 28 points ago +28 / -0 (edited)

Wow, another positive one today. There are some tech websites news articles about every single study that was negative, and yet they refuse to create an article about any positive study. These people are anti-Trump no matter who dies.

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gunmaster217 18 points ago +19 / -1

It's criminal that there are people in charge who refuse to give patients this almost free medicine.

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Cyer6 11 points ago +11 / -0

Top of the list...

"Early treatment with HCQ+AZ+Z results in 84% lower hospitalization and 80% lower death"

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Jojo 15 points ago +15 / -0

Pretty much the fucking cure. I'm sure Fauci will go on CNN and admit he's a total asshole on live TV?

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Afeazo 5 points ago +5 / -0

They said "Listen to doctors, not politicians" and then I was reading comments on Reddit of people saying they are not sure if they will take HCQ if their doctor prescribes it due to the dangers of it.

AKA, they literally are not listening to their doctor, but the politicians telling them its dangerous.

They said a drug that is widely used and has been prescribed for decades will kill you. They literally scared people into not believing their doctors when being given professional, licensed medical advice. We need to prosecute these people and throw them in the electric chair.

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SheepleMaster 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm tired of retards parroting "listeN to the expertz" while not doing anything remotely close to their own advice.

All their advice boils down to is: "please blindly trust the MSM like I do"

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ProdigalSon1997 14 points ago +14 / -0

Separate from my other post, but my fucking blood is BOILING because of how the Democrats have handled this. I need to let it out:

THEY KEEP EXTENDING THE FUCKING LOCKDOWN ORDERS YET BAN A DRUG THAT WAS PROVEN TO BE ABLE TO SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES! THEY FUCKING HATE THE ELDERLY, REGARDLESS OF RACE, BECAUSE THEY EQUATE COVID PATIENTS TO THEM!

I am soooo angry. I know the 6th commandment in the Bible is "thou shalt not kill", but honestly, from how I see it, these people don't deserve jail. They deserve the death penalty for how extremely evil and horrible they've been, especially to the elderly. "Rules for me but not for thee". This has to be one of the most evil attacks our nation has ever endured. I hope the Democrat Party is DONE once we get out of this. If I were in charge, I would make sure they end up in jail for life in a maximum high-security prison far far from any sort of civilization & no bail bonds could ever bail them out. Death is a strong word, but I think we can all agree that at minimum punishment should be maximum security federal prison in middle of nowhere where no amount of money could ever bail them out

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

The 6th commandment is thou shall not murder. Killing can be justified. It is rare, but regardless, the commandment is thus. How can you spread God’s love and peace in this time without killing however? How can you use your anger in this time?

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ProdigalSon1997 2 points ago +2 / -0

Very good point. I care about God's Word, and I know it is an essential part of American identity. However, this is a very, very hard situation we're in because if these terrorists constantly threaten the American people and these rich assholes keep bailing them, what choice do we have?

As some pedes told me earlier, we need to be careful that the msm doesn't twist our actions into dictatorship, but we still need to defend ourselves somehow. We need to protect our friends, family, and the good people of this country from the oppressors, who are actively attacking them.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Correct. I’ve debated killing a number of times.. I feel like.. idk, as far as I’ve been able to tell, it’s best to convert people in your sphere rather than kill.

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Titanium 8 points ago +10 / -2

This is irrelevant to weather Trump should have taken the position to push the drug when he did.

This is very relevant to the media continuing to push the narrative that the drug is dangerous just to spite Trump.

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zettapede 10 points ago +10 / -0

This is irrelevant to weather Trump should have taken the position to push the drug when he did.

He didn't push the drug. Here's the quote:

HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.

He just said they had a chance to be a game-changer. NEVER recommended people take it without medical study, as the media would have you believe.

Here's the tweet so you can see it for yourself.

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YouKnwNthgJonSnow 8 points ago +8 / -0

HAHAHAHAHAAH they're fighting on the medicine sub. I used to go there before COVID for research and practice advice, before it all became anti-Trump, anti-hydroxychloroquine all the time. What a bunch of leftists fucktards. They are literally shaking at the news - and there's no thread about it - you have to look in the overall COVID thread for it. Ridiculous.

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SheepleMaster 3 points ago +3 / -0

How can we trust any "experts" ever again when they're always putting bullshit politics above scientific truth? And then turning around and claiming only THEY have the truth. I'm done, my trust is gone, and it's THEIR OWN FAULT

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YouKnwNthgJonSnow 2 points ago +2 / -0

As a medical professional I don’t put much stock in research done by social science. But I generally do trust medical research. The research indicates that hydroxychloroquine is a helpful component of COVID treatment. The research is trustworthy, but you have to know how to read and interpret the data, as well as be able to locate any variables that might challenge the validity of a study. What I DO NOT trust are biased people who ignore valid studies or put their own spin on the interpretation.

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nickybops 7 points ago +7 / -0

This needs to be shared. I just posted it on every single social media account I got.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Smart!!

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RespectMyNipples5 7 points ago +9 / -2

It's all positive? So it has HIV?

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ProphetOfKek 4 points ago +4 / -0

It’s all Aladeen.

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Imransgarage 2 points ago +3 / -1

Right, it’s not all positive. Not hard to find studies without positive results.

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Kanxo 7 points ago +7 / -0

Just in case... What's the latest on doses to give during the early stages for the combo (HCQ, Azithromycin, zinc)? I'm sure it's at least based on weight, sex, pre-conditions, etc, but there must some general guidelines... Not sure I would trust a doctor whose reluctant to prescribe.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Correct. It depends on when you think you got the disease, your symptoms, and likelihood of negative soliloquy occurring from too high a dose. Overall, 600 day one, 200 thereafter, WITH Zinc, AZT if you can swing it. I’d say save the last part for the patients that didn’t take it early enough.

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JackCovfefeHays 7 points ago +7 / -0

Trump proved right Again!

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whocaresguy420 5 points ago +5 / -0

Need to shout it from the rooftops folks

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ProdigalSon1997 5 points ago +5 / -0

Okay, so I think I get what's going on the past few months, but I'll ask just to confirm:

The Democrats and their allies are obsessed with COVID-19 lockdowns, yet they banned hydroxychloroquine, which could have ended this entire drama sooner. What was their reason for banning it again?

Furthermore, people have every right to be angry at the Democrats & their extreme hypocrisy. I bet you right now that everybody, deep down, knows there's an elephant in the room. They kept pushing for lockdowns but then did these HUGE rallies in downtown areas, everyone packed together, and now I'm hearing that masks aren't effective (is this true?). Now they are saying "oh it's spiking again". Regardless of what the news source or the count, if anyone's to blame for this, it's the fucking Democunts for being massive hypocrites.

No matter which way one looks at it, small businesses and ordinary Americans have had way smaller groups when they wanted to exercise their 1A right to say "look I don't agree with these extreme lockdown orders". Way smaller groups, and yet they are shunned by this.

Anyway, my main question, moreso clarification: were the Democrats responsible for the most deaths because they banned hydroxychloroquine (spreading lies about it being a drug Trump was selling simply because Trump wanted medical workers to use it?) and then grouping COVID-19 patients in nursing homes, causing several elders with compromised immune systems to die?

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magastrophysicist 6 points ago +6 / -0

Can confirm. I am an astrophysicist and Nature and Science have indeed been cucked for ages.

They both heavily promoted "#ShutDownSTEM" this year.

Can you imagine that? The most prestigious science journals on the entire planet advocating for a whole day where scientists should not do science in order to bring attention to whiny-baby libtards that believe they are oppressed.

Unbelievable.

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magastrophysicist 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yep, same.

I get 2-3 emails every week from my university president and the "Office of Diversity and Inclusion" (aka Office of Disability Services) about bullshit communist topics like:

  • white privilege (not real)
  • diversity (not a strength)
  • women in STEM (who cares, just do your job)
  • intersectionality (piss-poor Marxist interpretation of personality types)
  • wEaR tHe mAsK BiGoT (no, you fucking faggot)

etc.

If we lose the physical sciences to these whackjobs, it's over. Already saw what "diversity and women in engineering" can do to bridges (FIU pedestrian bridge collapse), and they won't stop until it is all unrecognizable as science.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, they all go thru the higher ups before being published. If it goes against their fundamental axioms they don’t publish it

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JosephRBiden 4 points ago +4 / -0

Look fat here’s the deal. I invented the drug in question and let me tell ya Jack. It works but not for this. China is kicking our butts and we gotta accept it

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Pelayo 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thanks

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Romans12 4 points ago +4 / -0

I am humbly thankful for this. Thank you for sharing!

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks!! Share or the knowledge dies in TheDonald! Evil thrives when good people do nothing!

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Afeazo 4 points ago +4 / -0

Huh, its almost like the most powerful man in the world, with access to intelligence and research from the most powerful institutions on the planet, with direct lines to communicate with the top minds of any field, knows better than some reporter who showed up hungover to their 4pm shift at CNN.

Every time Trump says something, ask yourself, why would he say something that he doesn't know to be true and give the media the opportunity to smear him more? Of course, facts dont matter so they smeared him anyway.

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Slothboy 4 points ago +5 / -1

This. Trump is easy to understand; he likes to be right. He also hates to be wrong. So when he says something, it's because he's pretty sure it's right.

That's why it's basically a meme that "Trump is right again" because he doesn't say things that he doesn't have some kind of information about first.

His communication style makes him sound like he's just shooting his mouth off, so the press assumes that's what he's doing. So they take the bait, and ultimately end up looking like idiots. And Trump is right again :)

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Afeazo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Honestly I cant even count the amount of times I have seen comments on Reddit to the tune of "Fuck, this is going to give Trump supporters the opportunity to say "I told you so" again".

Its a pattern, and humans literally are the best pattern recognizing "machines" on the planet, yet they dont recognize the pattern. I originally assumed these people are just mis-informed or something, but it really is mental illness. A 28 year old neet locked in his basement commenting on Reddit thinks he knows better than a 74 year old billionaire business tycoon who only involves himself with supermodels, and happens to be the most powerful man on the planet. Sure.

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Robmak3 4 points ago +4 / -0 (edited)

Hydroxychloroquine: $11 for whole treatment, millions of doses in FEMA stockpiles, it's a widely used Malaria drug that even the CDC recommends to pregnant woman. Millions and millions of doses given before COVID was a thing, all safe.

Remdesivir: $3k for whole treatment, needs to be made sold by Gilead, not as safe as Hydroxychloroqine.

MSM gets paid by Gilead and wants to see Trump fail, so they push Hydroxychloroquine nonsense, even though its one of the safest drugs ever given (in a proper dose, which a fake Brazil study failed to do and gave lethal doses). Now the Detroit study that came out had extra money to study more patients, but they were scared from the fear mongering from the MSM.

MSM has death on their hands.

Great interview of White House Manufacturing Director Peter Navarro with Steve Bannon on Hydroxychloroqine https://open.spotify.com/episode/3VSyAnvc3TYFEqGHGAsgnc?si=bCmm0dT8RI2sMJloboyW0A

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Slothboy 5 points ago +6 / -1

Don't forget - Hospitals get a $20,000 bonus for patients that test positive for COVID. So it's in their best interest for people to be hospitalized. So they don't want a simple and effective treatment that keeps people out of the hospital

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nutup_orshutup 3 points ago +3 / -0

In the software world, we call this a bug bounty.

Guess what happens when you pay people for each “bug” they find in software?

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly!!! AAAAND we don’t know what it will do to kids in the womb right now.. could fuck up an entire generation for all we know

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Yawnz13 4 points ago +5 / -1

Far as I can see, the negative results come from late-stage infections. I doubt you're going to find a single medication that works as well on late-stage infections for other diseases as it they would on early-stage infections.

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Faintlight 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not only that, they gave 4-5 times the maximum dose, to co-morbid elder veterans and killed them out right.

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habanero 4 points ago +4 / -0

For this to be taken seriously the author of this site needs to figure out how this can be bad for Donald Trump. This is a political issue, not a scientific one. Science has been clear on this for several months.

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MakeAmericaGreat9 4 points ago +4 / -0

You bet your honky tonk ass I immediately posted this on cuckbook

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Someonewhosaw 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lifesaving link?

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup! I hope! It’s only life saving if YOU spread the unbiased info!

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SevereWeather 3 points ago +3 / -0

Since Trump sung the praises of Hydroxychloroquine and it is not an expensive medication, this information was suppressed by the Communist media and the members of said party to ensure the worst with COVID-19. Prove me wrong.

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catvideos3 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pep and Prep???

Is this like the black trans aids pill commercial?

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roflcopter 3 points ago +3 / -0

Looool

Preexposure prophylaxis

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catvideos3 2 points ago +2 / -0

I see you too, live in California.

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PuckOff_2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

previously some healthcare friends had told me hydroxy had no science behind it related to covid. They wanted "studies"

Sent them this today., 1 ignored, 1 blocked me.

Medical community full of trump hating sheep as well....shocking.

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erefernow 3 points ago +3 / -0

Excellent reference

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks! Spread the info or it dies here!

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Trumpamania2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

Was there ever any doubt?

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Weremoose 3 points ago +3 / -0

Can someone tutor me on how to read this completely? I want to post it but I have a few lefty academics FB "friends" who bring the heat. Got to be prepared.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

I got ya. Just post it, tag all their names. I’m the youngest ortho specialist in the country. They’re not going to be able to say anything. They won’t, especially by tagging them. They’ll have to have legit scientific data behind their comments before they say anything. I know the type(s). Even CNN just posted cardiac surgeon research touting its safety.

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Weremoose 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks, pede. I'll message you if I have questions.

My background is IT, so I can kind of understand these things but often miss the nuances.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good news, no nuance. It works, doesn’t have any side effects. Not even a higher rate of heart abnormalities. Yeah, not even those..... ... they can even google it. Put the onus on them. You’re giving them 50+ studies, they have to meet a very very very high bar before they can say anything. They won’t until they have legit proof, unless they’re overly emotionally involved.. possible.. but yeah.. they’re going to have to have an insanely good argument

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dparks2010 2 points ago +2 / -0

they’re going to have to have an insanely good argument

Or they'll just ignore it or lie in response like all dishonest adult children suffering from TDS do.

Dishonest discord is what Liberals do.

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moonsugarlily 3 points ago +3 / -0

ARCHIVED just in case! https://archive.is/L23Y4

GreatAwakening

(◕ヮ◕🌸)💗🐸🦅✝️🕊️⚖️🗽🇺🇲

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Media_Brews_Hate 3 points ago +3 / -0

But can we make the pills red, because...

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wapsi109283 3 points ago +3 / -0

HCQ didn’t kill itself.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

💯

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Auroraalpha 3 points ago +3 / -0

So the Left's TDS argument is that since you need early treatment and doesn't really work past 5 days, it is not a cure. EHMAHGERD DRUMPF PROVEN WRONG AGAIN! FAKE NOOOOSE!!!

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Supernova 3 points ago +3 / -0

That works out to ~111K lives saved had CNN not lied.

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Supersaiyanbroly737 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's a disgrace how the Trump pill was treated by the Lamestream media and the supposedly scientific medical community. From fake data to bullshit study designs to suppressing doctors to FDA dumbassery, it's all corrupted.

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2020magavision 3 points ago +3 / -0

I was just thinking today that I needed to get back up to speed on all things HCQ+Z and... here it is!! I love this place so much! Happy 4th everyone!

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WillyP702 3 points ago +3 / -0

Of course.. Hydroxychloroquine has been used to treat other things. This drug has been in used since the 60s. I understood why anybody believed the media instead of just simply researching this haha

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Sixty2ndAssassin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fuck the MSM.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Agreed. Spread the info in as many places as possible. The algorithms are no match for a pede with motivation. You can turn this election around

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thallos 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wonder how many people died of terminal TDS over this....

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Yucky 3 points ago +3 / -0

Superb collection. Whoever did this deserves serious recognition.

This entire shutdown was completely avoidable, and the deaths were largely unnecessary.

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WalterEKurtz 3 points ago +3 / -0

they need to start putting people in jail. Americans and people across the world died because of the political bs.

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HankHollywood 3 points ago +3 / -0

Goddamn right. People died and will continue to die over bullshit Orangemanbad/HCQ. It is so infuriating. The MSM and Democrat shill losers owe America blood, ounce for ounce.

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Steche 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thanks!

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Siteless_Vagrant 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh, THIS is why it's trending on Twitter. (Heads up, there is a LOT of stupid in here.)
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Hydroxychloroquine&src=trend_click

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hillaryforprison 3 points ago +3 / -0

Remember libtards want this to be illegal. You'll need Cuomo's permission, it's different for the media and elites though. They'd rather you die then take this racist drug. Surely something that's been around decades and deemed safe by FDA can be banned because Trump said something positive about it.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes. They’re evil. How should we proceed to make Sure everyone knows about this tho?

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spuger 2 points ago +2 / -0

I found it doubles your chance of surviving, over 2,000 inpatients. Cant say where.

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DoubleBased 2 points ago +2 / -0

Did you create this?

If so, could you add an Ivermectin tab. It is appearing to be another great option.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s the best option!

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whocaresguy420 2 points ago +2 / -0

Need to shout it from the rooftops folks

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed! Spread the info far and wide. The algorithms are still no match for the determined human mind!!

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GulagCheerSquad 2 points ago +2 / -0

Amazing, thank you

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citizen_anon 2 points ago +2 / -0

And yet if you Google hydroxychloroquine and click on "shopping" Google will inform you with a Covid-19 Alert saying:

"There's no solid evidence that hydroxychloroquine treats or prevents the coronavirus (COVID-19). Consult your health care provider if you're experiencing symptoms."

What a bunch of bull shit. These assholes are playing politics with people's lives. Democrats love to claim they are the party of science.... well???

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RadBrad 2 points ago +2 / -0

Great Post Doc!

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Pirate_Lafitte 2 points ago +2 / -0

Some new researcher in the field hoping to make a name for himself is synthesizing that research as we speak

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grassshrimp 2 points ago +2 / -0

Appreciate your work to put this in one place. If I get it, and my Dr. pushes back, this is the first thing I'll send her.

THANK YOU

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ToValhalla 2 points ago +2 / -0

So my Discord friend is saying all those studies listed don't matter because they are not controlled studies. Any advice here?

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Cocobolo 2 points ago +2 / -0
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MaouRem 2 points ago +3 / -1

Always amazes me how so many on the right can complain about activists banning medical drugs that could save your life while still insisting giving people the legal authority to decide what drugs should go in their body themselves would be too negligent

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lockedNLoaded2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

FDA should BTFO of it now, Drs and Pharmacist hands have been tied getting it out there , only cost a few dollars a dose, poor people can live!

Dr. Fraudchi working with China Pharm who wants to charge $3,000 a dose,poor people will die!

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BladeX10 2 points ago +2 / -0

Imagine how bad this is going to make democrat governors look if it gets legit proven to significantly reduce death rates. They politicized it every chance they got and probably killed thousands of people that probably couldve been saved otherwise.

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Scottfiab 2 points ago +2 / -0

I got down voted to oblivion on r/conservative for saying Trump was right all along. No wonder reddit is going down the capper.

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Iridiue 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are these taken in conjunction with zinc?

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zettapede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Many of them. Look for yourself.

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, it’s best to take with zinc. Have you been reposting on your own social??

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I mean, the human body on its own would be hurt by this virus but the body with a good Zinc ionophore is not the same entity therefore can’t be hurt in the same ways. The response and what they’re doing to us is BS, the virus is real

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FragoDelight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wow. Who is aggregating this?

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MrTruam 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is fantastic! I always get pushback when I utter HCQ. Now I have plenty of studies to throw at people asking for scientific proof.