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Kek_The_World 458 points ago

Hmmm... imagine charging before an investigation is complete... and then having to drop the charges?

The GSP have said that they have not finished the investigation of the Rayshard shooting and yet the officer was charged. Hopefully once the investigations are complete, the officer will go free.

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UseBraveBrowser 333 points ago

It's almost as if certain political hacks want to claim injustice and cause riots.

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Tellsyouhow 152 points ago

Riot after the incident and riot when he gets charges dropped or a not guilty. It's a double whammy for them.

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TrumpTrain 20 points ago

Torrez filed four new charges against Baca for unlawful carrying of a firearm and battery for allegedly assaulting three women before the shooting.

It also indicates they will charge him for the shooting also, once they complete the investigation

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PinkoPatrol 16 points ago

I wouldn't count on it to get that far. Prosecution knows they don't have a case, so they're giving generic platitudes to appease the mob. They'll drop the charges altogether eventually, and they'll use that as a means of causing more riots.

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SemperFree 14 points ago

Which is great, if your end goal is riots and social unrest.

Makes sense now.

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PatrioticMemeLord 134 points ago

It's almost as if one particular political party in this country is heating up racial hatred and division for profit, funding, and some other nefarious purposes. Perhaps this same political party has some kind of slush fund-esque means of generating money for their political purposes directly through this racial tension.

I wonder which party that might be and I also wonder how said party is able to get away with this sort of thing. I wonder how they get it going, perhaps most of the mainstream media is actually owned by a select few including and not limited to Chinese elites who want to undermine the cornerstones of my country and it's people.

Hahaha!

Actually, what am I saying. I sound like a conspiracy theorist. Social media told me so. It must be all because of those damned white supremacists and bad police officers. Also that damned orange man. Orange man is very bad. Must be his fault, the TV and the famous people I follow said so.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 72 points ago

Remember when the right was told we were acting outlandish during the Obama years? Lol, meanwhile our politicians did jack shit and went along with everything.

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FAQ-REDDIT 13 points ago

Burn

Loot

Money

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MamaLlama4DJT2020 3 points ago

I’d change the 3rd to Murder, but that’s just me.

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Daemoness 10 points ago (edited)

It's like the layers of an onion, with one group after another using each others as cats' paws:

We have a group of mostly peaceful demonstrators and protestors, protesting Chauvin's role in the death of Floyd. Why the protests started after Chavin was arrested is beyond me, but never mind that ; using them as cats' paws are

Violent rioters , arsonists , and at least a few assailants, rapists, and murderers ; using them as cats' paws are

Antifa and other socialists/communists, who are trying to bring about wholesale change in the USA (pretty much entirely for the worse) ; using them as cats' paws are

The DNC , whose sole apparent thought is , orange man bad , let's use this to hurt Trump's reelection chances...permanent damage to the USA-? Who gives a shit ! Orange man bad ! ; using these clowns as cats' paws are

Foreign meddlers, including China and various moslem-majority governments . possibly others.

The next move, and one I fully anticipate will be brought up some time in October, is a move on the USD's reserve currency status. As I understand it , if this staus is lost , we will see a rise in prices on consumer goods of 25-35% across the board ; that alone could be enough to trigger a major , long lasting recession. At least one reason for the USD's status is the stability of US institutions ; are they looking very stable right now-?

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trump2036 5 points ago

My liberal friend says Trump isn't unifying the country, he blames Trump for the chaos.

Sometimes I don't know how to respond

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Mcbignuts 32 points ago

Nah the goal is to pile on charges, until it gets dismissed, thereby paving way for future riots

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idindudat 19 points ago

Black mayor and black DA. That's all you need to know.

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Farmerbob1 29 points ago

Not all blacks are Democrats.

Democrats are the enemy here, not black folks.

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NewUser1758 4 points ago

Whoever owns the democrats and deep state is the problem, the fact they agitate and import new blacks to burn everything down is secondary

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Farmerbob1 10 points ago

I think we would be better off targeting the correct groups.

There are many based blacks. Attacking blacks generically only serves to make the blacks who agree with us against Democrats feel nervous.

The riots are not all due to blacks. Many Antifa members are not black.

The ones behind the funding are almost certainly not all blacks.

So, let's use the terms that actually describe the problem.

Democrats, and their financial supporters.

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NewUser1758 1 point ago

8% of blacks are not the problem. Homicide, aggravated assault and burglary are 4-5 times higher per capita by blacks than any other race, that is why they are killed by police more often. Blacks resist arrest more often than any other race. Police officers are 50 times more likely to be killed by a black person than a black person by a police officer. These numbers hold true across all income levels and all nations with statistically significant populations.

Ignoring these facts neuters any ability to solve the underlying problem, it doesn't matter that 8% of blacks don't participate in or support this activity. They will be the first people to tell you what the underlying problem is.

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Farmerbob1 3 points ago

8% of blacks understand that Democrats have been farming the black community for votes without actually helping them.

The underlying issue is still Democrats, not blacks.

The problem is that Democrats are buying the votes with money coming from outside problemic black communities, rather than trying to fix the problems inside those same black communities.

Root causes. You can't resolve structural issues with a new coat of paint.

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DavidBrockShill 4 points ago

The percentage of black politicians being Democrat at the local level is probably quite shocking but you are absolutely correct

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idindudat 3 points ago

Sure, but when you constantly see the vast majority of these corrupt politicians are black, it makes you wonder. There is a constant pattern to this. Chicago. Baltimore. To the Flynn judge in DC. To the corrupt judge in TX. On and on. When you see these riots, and its nearly always blacks that running amok, again, it fits a pattern. Which group has always rioted from the 1970s Watts riot, to Rodney King, to this. It's always the SAME group of people. It's always the SAME group of complainers about "muh racism". It's tiring.

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Farmerbob1 3 points ago

A second response to this because there is a tangent that deserves it's own thread.

Have you considered that the fact that you are seeing so many black Democrats taking actions that are sketchy might be the media intentionally feeding you slanted news in order to anger you?

The media slants coverage to anger the left. They certainly wouldn't hesitate to slant coverage to anger the right.

After all, the extra-national actors putting so much money into this mess don't want either side thinking rationally.

That's why it is important to watch for slant on both sides. Not just the side we want to see it on.

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idindudat 3 points ago

Well a degree of this is true, but at the same time it is true that these corrupt public officials are black. I just see shitbags like this Atlanta DA and Mayor, then you see shitbags like Lightfoot, then you see more shitbags like the Flynn Judge and that other judge that released all the Antifa rioters. I mean after awhile you just give up on these people. Seeing these blacks rioting pretty much poisoned an entire generation to the their plight just like the Rodney King riots did to my generation and the Watts riot to the generation before. One thing is for sure though, these riots did NOT help the black cause any at all. In fact, I have no doubt it set them back several decades.

You cant demand people to stop perpetuating the stereotype of violent animalistic blacks then go out and burn shit and punch 90 year old ladies.

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Farmerbob1 2 points ago

Who is encouraging this behavior? Who is failing to speak out about this behavior? Who is refusing to take action in the House or Senate to try and resolve this issue?

There's a whole lot of white Democrats out there encouraging and not trying to help fix the issue. The white Democrats are smart enough to funnel their messages through black community leaders.

The Democrats WANT us to target blacks, so they can SAY that we are targeting blacks.

STAY ON TARGET.

DO NOT BE DISTRACTED.

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Farmerbob1 3 points ago

The vast majority of the corrupt Democrats are not black. Only the vast majority of Democrats in areas which have a vast majority of black voters.

Democrats in other places are just as corrupt.

Right now, the Democrat party is at a point where honest people are not welcome in positions of power. If you aren't corrupt, they don't want you.

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Pau1F01ey 19 points ago

These aren’t riots. We’re in the midst of a revolution.

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Ricky_CIA 7 points ago

*attempted coup

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Country66 6 points ago

Oh this is just the very first hints of social unrest that is to come unless someone gets it under control. This is far from the "midst", and it isn't some "revolution", this is a hostile take over of our country by another country.

Now can you guess what country that might be?

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Fabius 13 points ago

Irresponsible children at best. Enemies of the state at worst.

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ChuckCollet 5 points ago

Yes. And avoid personal responsibility maybe? The riot will still occur but their house won't be burned down?

It's the hardest thing, getting inside the minds of these people.

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preferredfault 116 points ago (edited)

He's not only going to go free, the dude is gonna be set for life. He's clearly being illegally charged with a crime, and I doubt he's going to want to go back to work in the police force after the treatment he's gotten for just doing his job. In fact, it'd be smart not to because if any other incidences happen in the future, they'll be coming at him again as if he's some bad cop that keeps getting away with things. No one needs that kind of scrutiny for every little thing that happens, that's just setting up every action to be misconstrued based on someones agenda.

The only thing they can do right by him now is an exoneration and a huge payout settlement so he can retire early. If they don't want to be courteous enough to do that, then he should sue until he gets it.

And every other cop is watching how this is handled closely too, because tomorrow it could be them in the same position, just for doing their job.

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Kek_The_World 29 points ago

I hope so because I would have shot as welll.

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saveMySpeech 18 points ago

If it were me, I would sue the shit outta them too.

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Taqiyya_Mockingbird 17 points ago

Rayshard is going to inadvertently make Rolfe rich.

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Provis22 8 points ago

After Rolfe wins his multi million dollar suit he should rent a billboard in downtown Atlanta with a pic of him in a Mustang and a caption that says “thanks voters of Atlanta!”

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Italians_Invented_2A 12 points ago

This thread is about a guy in a blue shirt who was chased by antifa.

I think you're talking about the officer who shot a suspect who stole the tazer in a parking lot.

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Kek_The_World 16 points ago

We know. We are contrasting the cases. Both were charge PRIOR to the investigation being completed. We know one is not a cop. Oir point is that politicians are charging people without investigations for political gain.

Since Mr Blue shirt had his charges dropped until an investigation is completed, wouldn’t that be great if that happened in the other case.

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Country66 8 points ago (edited)

From an article about the Atlanta LEO and the crooked D.A. that has charged a number of the police there with crimes for doing their jobs.

“But Paul Howard is also under investigation himself for sexual harassment and possible money laundering right now, so he’s also trying to direct the attention away from his own investigation and take himself out of the limelight,”

Look at that, he's a criminal and trying to cover his own ass. I hope all Atlanta first responders just walk away from that shit hole and let it burn.

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SemperFree 3 points ago

What cop in their right mind would work for that force? Nope, fuck that.

DA corrupt to the core and does not have my back?

Heres my badge and piece, cya

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Smurfection -92 points ago

You, like me, were probably hoping this thread was about the officer in Atlanta who had murder charges filed against him.

It is not. It's about some yahoo who assaulted three women, carried a gun unlawfully, ran away from protestors, got hit with a skateboard so he shot one of them four times.

Yes, we're defending the yahoo in the sticky. Not the Atlanta police officer. I'm just as perplexed about it as you are.

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Dalewyn 28 points ago

You are replying to a sub-thread originating from this post:

Hmmm... imagine charging before an investigation is complete... and then having to drop the charges?

The GSP have said that they have not finished the investigation of the Rayshard shooting and yet the officer was charged. Hopefully once the investigations are complete, the officer will go free.

You might want to have your reading comprehension checked out.

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Kek_The_World -1 points ago

Sigh. I was comparing and contrasting the cases. It’s something logical people do. I was not confused, just thinking at a higher level.

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Dalewyn 7 points ago

I'm guessing you hit reply on the wrong post? I'm on your side. :V

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Kek_The_World 4 points ago

Oops! Sorry!

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Dalewyn 1 point ago

All good, fellow pede.

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FullAutoFlintlock 1 point ago

Fucking post police jesus, all that work to get some GBPs?

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Smurfection -22 points ago

Those comments refer to Atlanta, not Albuquerque.

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Dalewyn 11 points ago

Yes. You replied to a guy talking about Atlanta who replied to a guy talking about Atlanta. The only guy here confused is you.

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Smurfection -19 points ago

The post is about Albuquerque.

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Kek_The_World 6 points ago

I was comparing and contrasting two rush to judgement cases prior to investigations being completed. I was not confused. I was making a larger point about being charged (cop or citizen) without the investigation completed.

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ShartMaster 2 points ago

I'll always up vote Mr. Show!

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 13 points ago

Fuck off then.

This is about a guy doing the police's job.

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Smurfection -36 points ago

He failed at it, miserably, and he's in jail for it. He didn't even get paid for it. Worst volunteer job ever.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 13 points ago

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

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Smurfection -29 points ago

Teddy Roosevelt is disappoint you used his quote to defend Steven Baca.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 22 points ago

I used his quote to describe your critiquing of his actions.

I'm glad you're no longer a leftist, and welcome to the MAGA train, but please stfu more and listen.

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FullAutoFlintlock 11 points ago

The shooter was a sheriff's kid and political candidate. not carrying an illegal firearm you cock holster.

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Smurfection -10 points ago

The shooter was a congressional alternate to the state convention in a caucus state. That doesn't really make him a politician. It's a glorified precinct chair in a precinct his party will never win.

i didn't say he was carrying an illegal firearm. I said he was illegally carrying. He didn't have a permit for concealed carry yet that was what he was doing.

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FullAutoFlintlock 12 points ago

Can't be true, he was blessed to be in shouting distance to peaceful joggers Law Free Zone.. you are mistaken. No laws apply within 150' of peaceful jogger crowds. You obviously didn't take that into account.

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PhilipeNegro 6 points ago

Desperate times, desperate measures.

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WildFunkyFresh 11 points ago (edited)

Well the people that chased him and kept attacking him shouted that they were going to kill him. He also got hit in the face with the metal truck of the skateboard in the face. If you can kill someone with a baseball bat to the face, I'm sure the metal trucks on a skateboard would have a higher fatality chance when fully swung like in the video.

Granted he should still be punished for carrying without a permit.

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MajJamesMcFarlane 16 points ago

punished for carrying without a permit

His permit is the Second Amendment

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WildFunkyFresh 1 point ago

You think that's going to protect him from ATF and all the strict gun laws that have been passed since the 2nd amendment was written? While I'm not a fan of the ATF, they have made it extremely clear that they invoke swift heavy handed punishments.

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Itateeverybody 2 points ago

Fuck outta here with that permit shit.

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Smurfection -18 points ago

I'm aware that someone could be killed or seriously injured by being hit with a skateboard.

I just don't think that this incident should be a high priority on the list of things our movement should be concerned with.

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WildFunkyFresh 6 points ago

Even though it pales in comparison to the stranglehold Big Tech has on the US, it was obvious this story would make news because of all the destruction carried out by Antifa over the last two weeks with no repercussions. Lots of major cities around the U.S. have been letting criminals go and not prosecuting rioters or the destruction of statues. The only thing the antifa cowards fear is someone that has the capability to stand up to their bullshit and keep them in line. Everyone that broke the law should be punished, including the shooter for not having a ccw permit. But it's honestly amazing that this pushback hasn't happened sooner.

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Demonspawn 2 points ago

including the shooter for not having a ccw permit.

His permit was issued in 1791

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WildFunkyFresh 1 point ago

Good Luck explaining that to the ATF

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Smurfection -9 points ago

What did the pushback accomplish, in your opinion?

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WildFunkyFresh 12 points ago (edited)

It showed that the typical American isn't as spineless as our politicians. The numbers of people defending statues are swelling and most people are fed up with the bullshit. In Philadelphia there were skirmishes over defending statues and that place is 80 to 85% democrat. I've seen videos of cars cross lanes and run people over for throwing a brick at their car twice while they were driving. Sometimes a show of force is necessary to ward off future attacks. Granted, they will still continue but since they are cowards by nature that employ swarm tactics, they will eventually back off when repercussions (government or civilian) are severe enough to make them fold.

The left is like those small kids in school that try to pick on the big guy. They'll harass constantly to try and look tough, but eventually the giant awakes and lands a blow so fierce that they are too scared to harass again. Basically they all have napoleon complex but lack are quick to cave when they get hurt.

... continue reading thread?
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booblitchutz 8 points ago

First of all a skateboard can be a deadly weapon and the RIOTERS (not protesters) intended to kill him with the skateboard.

Second, he ran away because he clearly DIDNT want to shoot anyone. If he did he would have just done it.

Third, on what basis do you say he was illegally carrying?

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Kek_The_World 5 points ago

I was comparing and contrasting one case of a shooter having their rush to judgement arrest reversed with the police office who was also charged without a complete investigation and hoping they would reverse until the investigation is done as well. I wasn’t confused.

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Smurfection -6 points ago

Oh, I misinterpreted you. darn.

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Farmerbob1 4 points ago

A skateboard can be just as deadly a weapon as a length of iron pipe. Just a bit heavier and clumsier.

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Chopblock 3 points ago

How was he carrying a gun ‘unlawfully’?

What was the exact nature of the ‘assault’?

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PawsOfMotion 2 points ago

I know you're getting hammered by downvotes. But there's lots of videos showing people getting severely beaten by mobs. Not really a legal defense but realistically it was clear that he was about to become a victim.

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stonepony 47 points ago

You're not even supposed to arrest someone without evidence of a crime. They never had any evidence of a crime. He's got a slam dunk civil suit for wrongful arrest.

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HillaryAteMyBaby 31 points ago

Their evidence of the "crime" is on the cam footage we all watched. That's why the charges.

Problem is, they think it's evidence of a crime, but it's really only evidence of self-defense. They really are that delusional.

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Luty 9 points ago

When you shoot someone, you are automatically arrested in most cases. It makes sense, they have to be sure it was self defense (or at least that they can't charge you) before they release you.

He's probably going to get sued in civil court by the dude he shot though. Happens a lot.

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stonepony 7 points ago

You never get automatically arrested for anything. This isn't China.

The charges for the shooting got dropped because there are tons of camera angles recording every single second of the incident. And it was completely justified.

They might have had probable cause to detain him. They didn't have evidence supporting an arrest. That's why the charges were dropped.

We have due process. All of us. Even those of us who have recently shot a knife wielding ISIS cosplay terrorist. All of us. It doesn't matter if dipshit terrorist files a frivolous suit. He has no case, The man who shot him, and got smashed by skateboards and threatened with a knife, has a slam dunk case.

Terrorist is going to lose his trust fund.

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Luty 5 points ago

I should have used the word detained. If the firearm is used against a person, it's almost always auto detention. They have to review evidence and statements from witnesses to clear him. This is part of due process. And filing charges before that was done was wrong and obviously political.

I'm not sure that assailant had a knife, but using the skateboard to assault that man was reason enough for him to draw his firearm and fire. I can't believe people would disagree with that. NM has a duty to retreat law, and it was clearly shown in the videos the guy was distancing himself from the increasingly aggressive mob. Not to mention he was outnumbered.

With the political climate, he is going to be a target for numerous civil lawsuits. I'm not saying he can't win them, it's just going to be a part of his life for a while. They will try all sorts of arguments just to keep him from living his life, and all pro bono might I add.

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stonepony 3 points ago

He will not even have to acknowledge the lawsuits. I can sue you right now for molesting my dog. It won't tie you up in court, because I have no evidence to support the claim.

The reason you get "automatically detained", is because most people simply agree and it's consensual. Same reason everybody hands over their ID any time they're asked, whether they're legally required to or not.

In order to be lawfully detained, the officer must have reasonable articulable suspicion that you have committed a crime. The guy had every legal right to get up and go home and ice his head like nothing happened. They arrested him for the shooting before they reviewed any evidence or knew anything about the preceding shoving matches in the crowd. So none of that is applicable to justify the arrest,

He has a lawsuit against the department that arrested him, and against everybody who attacked him. And his lawsuits will be supported by 50 different video recordings.

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Luty -4 points ago

Your perception of the courts does not align with mine so let's just agree to disagree.

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stonepony 3 points ago

My perception is based on the law as it's written. There's nothing to disagree about.

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WU_HAN_FRU 28 points ago

They are already talking death penalty before the investigation is back. I cannot imagine anything more irresponsible.

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PhilipeNegro 10 points ago

They can get shot, too

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SnowflakeJuice 10 points ago (edited)

Even in the linked report. there is some fuckery going on by the DA. He appears to say the charges were drop because the investigation is not complete as the person who was shot may have had a knife.

So being attacked by a mob and smashed with a skateboard is not enough to justify self defense?

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IsrorOrca 5 points ago

On top of seeing.... A KNIFE in his hands just before being shot.

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ShartMaster 1 point ago

I believe that it comes down to not being able to claim self defense if you initiate an assault.

I don't agree with the law on this, because if you get into a pushing match with someone and they pull out a knife as a response, you can't claim self defense if you shoot them. It seems as if you can't respond with a proper escalation of force if some jackass decides to up the ante.

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dudeduderson 7 points ago

Well.. to be fair, it could have been to charge to 'appease the mob' then drop because clearly we're adults and know exactly why the dude shot in the first place.

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Techrev 15 points ago

Doesn't work that way. As mentioned above, when the charges are dropped, there will be more outrage that the charges were dropped, and more rioting.

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Tomato 12 points ago

Its actually the complete opposite.They are doing this to enrage the mob.

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quigonkenny 2 points ago

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

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WJKovax 5 points ago

...and sue the fucking shit out of every scumbag involved.

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yzzp 4 points ago

and the retards will riot

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Taenia 4 points ago

“Right now I have no evidence to suggest that he was in any way armed,” Torrez said. “The fact that we haven’t charged it (shooting charge) today doesn’t mean it will not be charged.”

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DemsHaveNoHomeHere 3 points ago

Presidential pardon worst case scenario

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Donarudo_Taranpu 2 points ago

I may be wrong, but the President can issue pardons only where the federal government has charged and convicted.

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Tomtoonami93 2 points ago

Once everyone magically forgets about all of this after the elections, he will be let go. The article will be on page 34 of the paper.

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Italians_Invented_2A 2 points ago

He's not an officer, he's just a guy with a blue shirt.

You're confusing it with another case.

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Kek_The_World 1 point ago

Nope. We are comparing and contrast the cases. Just thinking on higher and not literal plane.

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offensivebias 2 points ago

Cop did nothing wrong, that DA needs to be fired and the cop needs to get rehired somewhere they appreciate good cops.

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SemperFree 2 points ago

Mob rule is not justice. These DAs are pathetic.

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CaptRied 1 point ago

You are charged the moment the police arrest you. He is arresting you for a REASON. It is the District Attorneys job to investigate to see if those charges are worthy of bringing to a trial. This is normal.

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ShartMaster 1 point ago

You are arrested on probable cause. Actually charging someone comes AFTER an investigation and initiates the legal process.

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Smurfection -8 points ago

Do you realize you're talking about the police officer in Atlanta Georgia and this thread is about the counter protestor that shot a protestor in Albuqueque New Mexico?

I can see how you would be confused. I am too.

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Anaconda -76 points ago

he is now charged with three separate aggravated battery charges because he BODYSLAMMED three women before the skateboards/knives were used on him or threatened to be used on him. he also now has a fourth gun charge because he was hiding a gun on him without having a license to conceal carry. if he had just open carried he would be legally okay.

VIDEO of him bodyslamming or pushing the 3 women off of the platform minutes before the crowd chases him and then the weapons start to be used. for the third woman he bodyslams he has pepper spray exposed in his left hand even though nobody else around him is threatening him with a skateboard or knife

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1273007093729996800

https://www.krqe.com/news/crime/man-arrested-for-shooting-at-onate-statue-protest-facing-new-charges/

PS: he is still in jail due to these four charges

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Mr-J 69 points ago

Body slamming people who wouldn't keep their hands off him actually, they kept coming back.

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Smurfection -68 points ago

Is this opposite day today? Steve Baca leaves the main protest group three times and he returns after the first two times. Steve is the one who keeps coming back for more.

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tedrosisafag 30 points ago

please stop white knighting for dumb hoes. Thank you.

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Smurfection -31 points ago

I'm not.

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Proudly_Deplorable 10 points ago

Another one. -8, then I downvote, then up to zero.

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WhineTasting 6 points ago

I noticed that too. Probably a scripting issue.

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WhineTasting 3 points ago

I noticed that too. Probably a scripting issue.

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cheesecakelove 2 points ago

It seems to be keeping count ok. It showed -22 when I downvoted but then reset to 0. So I think it’s keeping up internally, but failing somewhere on the voters side.

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Yucky 24 points ago

So only people who destroy public property are allowed to protest, but people who are against such destruction, are not? Looks like the cucked leftist brainwashing is working well.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 14 points ago

They were peacefully destroying property not doin nuthin!!!

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Smurfection -16 points ago

you'd have to ask Albuquerque's antifa protecting mayor about that. Do you think a right winger is going to get justice in Albuquerque? Or do you think a few dumb irascible vigilantes are what they're trying to ensnare so they can blame the whole thing on white supremacists? What do you think the mayor of Albuquerque is trying to do?

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Fabius 19 points ago

It's not legal to be assaulted by a mob. You can come back to a public street 7 billion times. It's not a crime.

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MyopicVitriol 6 points ago

It's legal to intervene when others are breaking the law.

Concern more?

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Smurfection -7 points ago

yes, and everyone should do good and avoid evil. It's a nice adage but it doesn't really mean anything until its applied. In this application of intervention, it accomplished nothing but getting a young man shot and another young man in jail awaiting charges and a trial. The statue was removed by the Mayor.

The intervention was a complete clusterfuck. That is not good and that is not smarter.

Be Best, Not Dumb

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MyopicVitriol 2 points ago

I've personally engaged in multiple citizens arrests including some that required force to detain and deliver suspects of crime into Seattle Police custody.

Best is the confidence to act AND the knowledge to know the legal boundaries.

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Smurfection -6 points ago

What are you talking about?

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Proudly_Deplorable 1 point ago

That's exactly what it did, put you back up to zero. Then I refreshed the page and you were back down to your previous low.

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Smurfection -5 points ago

Oh. I'm not worried about being downvoted on this thread. I know my opinion is unpopular. I don't think there's any hanky panky going on. All my comments are being downvoted because I collected some trolls. I am not bothered by it at all. I just think there needs to be some dissent about the incident in Albuquerque.

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Anaconda -75 points ago

LMFAO. look at the video. that first woman that he fucking throws off the platform from behind hardly defends your point. why did he have pepper spray in his hand when nobody was threatening him with any knives or skateboards for the third woman he bodyslams?

i see you are another one who thinks this idiot 'dindu nuffin'. hilarious shit. you tards keep whining and saying he 'dindu nuffin' in the minutes before he got his ass hit by skateboards. this guy is such a pussy he refused to do the pushing and bodyslamming on the male 'protestors/joggers'.

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chopz 39 points ago

The situations involving the women being attacked are completely separate incidents that even if he lost in court over, would result in a week or less in jail, time served. You have yet to respond to any replies I've done to your troll bullshit, you obviously cannot do anything but troll on this site, why are you here? Shooting was justified. I know NM law very well, he was attacked with a long board to the head at least 3 times.

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SuperCoolWagon 16 points ago

I think he's sucking off the mods. There isn't any other explanation at this point.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 5 points ago

Mods are pretty based, they don't need anaconda posting his gay shit to suck them off

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chopz 2 points ago

Nah it's just hiding behind proxy

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T_BigD1745 13 points ago

And a knife wielding pussy boy

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MAGALauncher 26 points ago

Why are you so intent on taking the side of the cucks and whores? People have DIED as a result of these bullshit actions. Cops, the elderly, etc.

It’s about someone fought back Instead of posted stupid memes or go on a soliloquy about the constitution or whatever. It’s a shame he didn’t shoot more tbh. These faggots need to be scared.

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Mcbignuts 22 points ago

This

Maga folks have to follow laws to a dot, but lefties can loot n riot

According to some folks over here he shud have showed up there with an attorney

The folks hitting him and toppling statues are completedly fine tho, I call bs

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SuperCoolWagon 14 points ago

Why are you so intent on taking the side of the cucks and whores?

Because he is fastmandan, a banned troll. If there is an anti-MAGA side here, he's taking that side.

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Proudly_Deplorable 5 points ago

Somebody is messing up the up/down votes for him. He was at -55 on that post, and also way below zero on other posts, I downvoted and suddenly he was at zero. Is there some mod who loves Pantifa?

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ianpatrick1966 3 points ago

That's a bug in the display only

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Jaqen 2 points ago

That is behavior by design to discourage brigading. Refresh the page to see the true post count.

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masculinist 7 points ago

Where'd you learn to write? Yo MTV raps? When communicating with a wide number of people, it's best to organize your thoughts coherently and to follow basic grammatical rules. If the world you desire is as unstructured and incoherent as your writing, I want no part of it.

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WildFunkyFresh 3 points ago

The interaction with the woman on the platform is clearly evident that he rips something from her hands and it goes flying off towards the right side of the screen. It looked like a cardboard stencil for spray painting.

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Proudly_Deplorable 4 points ago

Good for him! Sounds like she was doing the usual Antifa/BLM crimes of defacing public property.

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Nogoodgerman 33 points ago

body slamming terrorist traitors isn’t illegal. The second amendment says nothing about needing a permit from the government to carry a gun and shooting tyrannical communist terrorists is the job of the people when the government fails to enforce the law

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stonepony 30 points ago

Your terrorists lost. Come to terms with it. The battery charges will get dropped too, because your terrorists were shoving him around first.

Only a complete moron would walk through that crowd with a pistol exposed for your terrorists to steal it.

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Smurfection -18 points ago

I don't think you saw the first video where he pulled a woman off the platform of the statue completely unprovoked.

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HelicopterPilot 30 points ago

Oh so the guy who chased him down the street shouting that he was going to kill him and hitting him over the head with a skateboard was actually just trying to disarm him?

LOL fuck off faggot.

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booleh 24 points ago

lol this twitter cocksucker

hey let's put video of him REACTING and claim he initiated

you have 1 long view image of him touching that woman at the statue that could very well be video of her FALLING and him trying to catch her. there's absolutely no context from that distance and angle

the next 2 clips are just that. completely clipped so there's no context at all. the people who shot the video OBVIOUSLY have more footage but they deliberately clipped it

this makes me believe that THEY are the ones with the agenda here

long story short, you chase after a guy with a gun, you get what you deserve

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Mcbignuts 6 points ago

Exactly why would anybody initiate a fight while outnumbered 100 to 1

My guess is that he got into an argument, the fascists dint like Dat and the rest is history

Why shud he give a damn abt the law when those ppl don't have to?

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TonsOfSalt 5 points ago

Someone repeatedly blocked his path walking directly into him with their arms spread, and he threw them to the ground after getting tired of that bullshit

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Mcbignuts 8 points ago

They deserved it

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WhereForArt 18 points ago

That’s fine. He should face charges for his crimes. He did not commit a crime defending him self and that’s the point. He was justified.

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Luvmyhub75 23 points ago

If you touch me, I’m allowed to defend myself period.

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Yucky 10 points ago

You can't figure out why a guy, in a crowd of people who want to kill him, would have pepper spray to defend himself?

You can do better than that.

Anyone who doesn't have weapons when surrounded by a mob is asking for trouble and is being stupid.

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Kekistanirefugee 6 points ago

Who cares

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Smurfection -43 points ago

I don't know why our movement to MAGA is even investing any time defending this Steve Baca guy at all. The Jelly Boi had no calm or cool about him and did everything we don't want a gun owner to do. He had no situational awareness and it seems to me, he went to a protest to start a fight. He's an rolly little emo jerk. I just don't know why there's so many people in our movement who want to invest any time with him because he does nothing to MAGA.

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stonepony 31 points ago

Standing up to violent terrorist lynch mobs is pretty MAGA imo.

You don't need to understand why he might not want these terrorist lynch mobs rampaging in his community. His rights aren't contingent on your approval or your understanding.

And I'm glad we finally got to see an example of a free American standing up to these terrorists.

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Smurfection -32 points ago

How was he standing up to violent terrorist lynch mobs?

I get how it can be emotional cathartic for some to see a left wing Antifa twerp get shot for hitting someone with a skateboard. It was going to happen eventually but that doesn't make Steven Baca a hero. It made him someone who escolates, loses control of a situation (and himself) and has to shoot his way out. That's not admirable. Thats pretty stupid.

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stonepony 16 points ago

Agree to disagree.

I don't think you'll find many Trump supporters siding with you and the ANTIFA terrorists.

You're free to submit and grovel and hide under your bed. But that's not admirable. Neither is allowing them to rampage unchecked through your community. IMO.

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Smurfection -22 points ago

Whether you or I like it or not, the allowance to rampage was made by the mayor. The mayor is the chief executive law enforcement officer of the city.

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stonepony 18 points ago

Actually I'm an American and our mayors don't own us. They don't have the authority to legalize crime or allow terrorist lynch mobs to do anything. And nobody needs a mayor's permission to have rights.

Not sure where you got those ideas.

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Mcbignuts 7 points ago

Bootlicker confirmed

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ChippingToe 3 points ago

It made him someone who escolates

You have no idea how the real world works. In the real world, when you get swung at with a skateboard by a violent person who brought his friends and intends to hurt you, the situation is already escalated. Think for a moment: if that skateboard had landed squarely and knocked him out, who would have protected him then?

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Smurfection -5 points ago

k, so the second assault wasn't an escalation? how about the third assault? how about the use of pepper spray? All these things weren't escalations because they sure seem like escalations to me.

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Proudly_Deplorable 3 points ago

Because we're damned tired of seeing the rioting, the looting, the destruction of private and public property and the assaults and murders by leftists and their legion of criminals. You can kill or seriously injure someone with an object, especially if you're a bunch of pussies like Antifa who love to come up from behind and hit somebody with a bike lock, skateboard or anything else. If more of this happened, the George Soros' blackshirts might be a bit reluctant to go on their cowardly gang attacks on people.

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Smurfection -3 points ago

I definitely understand that. Sometimes, I am just as angry about it and as frustrated as everyone else here about it. That's why it's very important to understand the political dynamics of what is going on.

Antifa is able to operate in these Democrat controlled cities because the mayors and city councils WANT them to. They want to empower Antifa and they want to prosecute (persecute?) right wingers. I think New York City made that clear when they threw the book and the kitchen sink at the Proud Boys and let Antifa off completely.

The problem in these cities isn't so much that Antifa is operating in them. It's that the elected leaders want Antifa operating. the people of the cities CHOSE to put those mayors in power and they also wanted this.

Any "win" against Antifa in these cities, however cathartic, is only apparent. In the big picture its a loss because the Democrats can spin it into making conservatives look like the aggressors and like white supremacists. In fact, that's exactly what the Democrat mayors are hoping..more confrontation so that can further demonize Trump and right wingers. That's the entire point of holding these types of protests. No one cares about the statue.

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Smurfection -17 points ago

It's a statue of a conquistador, not your home or business. The mayor is the chief executive of the city and statue was on city property and the mayor made the decision to allow the protestors to assemble and take down the statue. The mayor did stick one plain clothes undercover law enforcement in the crowd though.

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xBuckeyex 16 points ago

So the mayor is a cuck and you support them. Got it.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 4 points ago

The King is the king do what he says

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indelible 18 points ago

all I care about is the shooting charge because we can't have people getting mobbed being unable to defend themselves. I agree that otherwise he was making an ass of himself, based on at least one of the clips i saw.

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Smurfection -21 points ago

I agree that we can't have people getting mobbed being unable to defend themselves but at the same time, some people are really going overboard with trying to make this guy some kind of poster boy for 2A rights. We SHOULD be pointing out he's an instigator and he escalated the situation and most importantly, he was unlawfully carrying.

Don't we always say if the courts would enforce the gun laws when they're violated we'd have less problems with criminals having guns? k, well, this guy violated guns laws and he's a criminal. This isn't exactly Bunker Hill here.

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masculinist 9 points ago

Leftists are attacking cities and neighborhoods across the country. Vigilantes are imminent in such a situation. This guy might be among the first of many.

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Trump2030 7 points ago

It's one of the reasons the right does not stand up because when someone does the right immediately throws them under the bus.

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masculinist 4 points ago

Pessimism never won any battle

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Smurfection -3 points ago

correction. Every single riot done by lefties across this country happened in a blue state with Democrat governor, a deep blue city with a Democrat mayor. All of them with Democrat state controlled houses and all of them with Democrat controlled city councils.

It is not all across the country. It is STRICTLY contained in their own deep blue Democrat strongholds. Why would I want to interrupt them destroying themselves?

We can't rise to this bait because that's what they want. They want Trump to come storming in so they can call him a dictator that declared martial law. They want a bunch of right wing zealots to come in because they want to brand them all as white supremacists and blame the riots on them.

Why on Earth would we want to rise to the bait?

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sun_wolf 0 points ago

Downvotes for reasonable comments like this suggest shills are around.

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Mcbignuts 7 points ago

So the folks trying to topple. Dat statue cuz their feefees got hurt were obeying the law?

If the law was universal that protest would have been shut down the moment those historically illiterate morons, tried erasing history, so what if it's a conquistadors, it's new Mexico goddammit, the Spanish had claim over it at one point. Pretty important monument if u ask me especially if ur Latino

Now the law suddenly matters when a right winger does something giv me a break

I'm glad somebody did something at last instead of shit posting abt it

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Smurfection -8 points ago

I'm not happy someone did something about it. I think that's the dumbest thing to do.

It's a Democrat city in a Democrat State and everyone in authority is a Democrat or under the leadership of a Democrat. I think we should sit back and watch the Democrats destroy their own strongholds.

Three years ago, I was digging into how a civilian conflict would occur in the U.S. I realized the Dems were all in cities that were largely enclosed. Those are their "castles" so to speak. The only way to win against the "castles" was to siege them.

Now we don't have to, not that it's going to come to that and this is of course just an analogy.

The Democrats are metaphorically sieging their own castles.

Yes, we should sit by and do nothing. well, maybe popcorn is good idea.

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Mcbignuts 5 points ago

Doing nothing is why the presidents supporters have to hide their politics in order to feed their families.

Dats the kind of cucked attitude Dat got us here

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Winston_Raleigh 1 point ago

No state has a 100% Democrat voter base. Therefore, there are Americans in each of those blue states who are being TARGETED by the "lords" of your "castles". They are, effectively, HOSTAGES in their own lands: and it is patently irresponsible for you to suggest that our appropriate response should be to get some popcorn and be entertained while our brethren lose their livelihoods, their homes and businesses, and possibly their LIVES: simply because you consider them acceptable losses.

I'm in Connecticut. They don't get much bluer than this dungheap. And I'm not leaving. I have my rights, and I will USE them if and when needed, political expediency be damned. And should the situation go hot, if you think my peril is suitable for your amusement, then you lose both your presumed moral superiority, AND your ticket to the mental sorting bin labeled "Friendlies". Best stay home.

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Yucky 4 points ago

We say that if courts enforced laws against burning entire sections of cities, destroying public and private property, and general mayhem, we wouldn't be having these problems.

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Smurfection -5 points ago

I'm saying if people in cities stopped blindly voting for far left progressive Democrats to run their cities, they might actual get competent executives who wouldn't let other far left progressive Democrats burn it to the ground while vandalizing statues and taking over swaths of the downtown areas.

Alas, that's not the case.

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indelible 3 points ago

eh, I don't think concealed carrying a legally procured firearm is really the kind of gun law people mean when they talk about enforcing existing laws - that's more background check shit. honestly I think we've already gone too far with gun laws, I'm not advocating people breaking them but the more law-abiding, peaceful people who are armed the better. his aggressive conduct is what makes him a bad actor, not solely the act of carrying. that's my opinion though!

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Smurfection -11 points ago

I could be persuaded either way on the point about concealed carry. I prefer concealed carry to open carry.

I'm glad that you're saying Steven Baca is a bad actor. I think more of us need to say that.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 2 points ago

He is a posterboy for 2A rights whether you like it or not. Stop whining like a little girl. In the instance of the shooting, none of that previous shit matters. It is agreed upon that he handled the shooting situation by the book. So again, stop whining. You and anaconda should go get a room.

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Smurfection -5 points ago

Oh, I think a whole bunch of 2A groups would disagree with you about him being a poster boy for 2A rights especially since he was unlawfully carrying. I don't know a single 2A rights group that would defend that.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 2 points ago

In America there is literally no such thing as unlawful carrying.

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WildFunkyFresh 2 points ago

I agree that he shouldn't be a poster child due to the unlawful carry. But intervening to stop criminal in the act of a crime shouldn't be punished either. From the video footage I've seen it looks like he ripped something from her hands when she was trying to deface the statue.

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Proudly_Deplorable 1 point ago

He did. You don't get away with criminal activity and attacking someone just because you're female. Remember Moldylocks? That terrorist got exactly what she deserved.

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Smurfection -2 points ago

I do understand why a lot of pedes are thinking "oh, the protestors are doing something illegal. Someone should do something about this. Steven Baca is someone, he can do something about this"

I also think this is childlike and simplistic reasoning given the volatile situation and the complex politics behind it.

There is ultimately only one person who should do something about it - the Mayor. He deliberately told his police to stay away from it and he even went as far as to put a plain clothes police officer in with the protestors. The Mayor didn't want this stopped and he's the chief executive law enforcement officer for Albuquerque.

The police probably wanted to do something about it but they were told to stand down or stay away. They would be violating orders.

The New Mexico Civil Militia, which has no authorization to do anything about it, tried to do something about it and were outnumbered and so rather than escalate the situation, they pulled back.

Then along comes Steven Baca. He got himself arrested. He shot a guy. The statue is gone by order of the Mayor.

Trying to save the statue wasn't worth it.

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WildFunkyFresh 1 point ago

I think it sent a message that some people are willing to go to jail to protect the history of America and that maybe the next time the left decides to attack someone they should weigh if it's worth getting shot.

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Fabius 7 points ago

he went to a protest to start a fight.

A. Speculation. You do not know the mind of the individual.

B. It wasn't a protest. It was vandalism.

he does nothing to MAGA.

He's done more to MAGA than you'll ever understand. He taught lawless vandals that they better think twice before they beat a man in the street over politics.

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Smurfection -7 points ago

Oh, you think he taught the progressive ignorati a lesson? I hope you're right about that but I think the riots were kind of dying out anyway because they stopped being effective for getting votes and the last embers were the statue vandalism.

I think the plan behind the riots, as Governor Walz of Minnesota and Mayor Jacob Frey of Minneapolis said the second night, was to blame it all on white supremacists while collecting lots of money for BLM in donations to launder to the DNC. That was their plan, I think, the leftist plan that is. however, because right wingers DIDN'T take the bait and DIDN'T join the riots, it left the far left progressives holding the bag (of shit) and the riots started backfiring on them in the polls. Plus, enough astute right wingers figured out BLM was a laundering scheme using ActBlu and even MMF the Minnesota fund was laundering money. All because we DIDN'T go to the riots and take the bait.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 3 points ago

How would you prefer he go to the protest?

You're just mad a dude showed up to the protest with the means to protect himself. Gimme a break. Go take a knee.

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Smurfection -5 points ago

I don't care about Steven Baca. I do care that so many pedes are cluttering up our movement with his stupidity.

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bubadmt -9 points ago

I agree with this even if unpopular. We want responsible gun owners and we don't need anyone giving us a bad name. He put himself in a spot where he shouldn't have been, he needlessly escalated the situation instead of leaving, and he also committed actual crimes leading up to the shooting. That then begs the question, would the shooting have occurred had he not set himself up for those circumstances? Probably not but you be the judge.

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mishaclara 14 points ago

Honestly one dead Antifa when we should have seen thousands dead is not skin off my nose. We watched thousands get beat, terrorized, looted, burned and hit by cars. You cannot ask every day Americans to watch that shit while nothing happens to these people and not expect some ofvthem to go insane. IF he was instigating, I think he can claim temporary insanity. As far as the shooting, totally justified the kid had a knife. I for one felt alot better seeing a dead Antifa guy. Sorry, but to pretend these fuckers terrorizing us for weeks does not have an impact is ignoring reality.

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bubadmt -4 points ago

Totally agree on that point. It's understandable from that perspective, especially since some people are more prone to it than others. Dude was a ticking time bomb though. Shouldn't have had a gun in the first place, as evidenced by his unlawful carry charge. It's like if you steal someone's car and then another person crashes into you by mistake: yes, you were technically the victim there, but if you had clean hands, it wouldn't have been an issue in the first place, nor is it even relevant.

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mishaclara 10 points ago

These are not ordinary times. These Antifa fucks need to see consequences for their violent behavior. I am glad he got shot.

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contract_crusader 8 points ago

"instead of leaving" so running away isn't leaving anymore?

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bubadmt -7 points ago

It's like if you steal someone's car and then another person crashes into you by mistake: yes, you were technically the victim there, but if you had clean hands, it wouldn't have been an issue in the first place, nor is it even relevant. That's just a rough example, but the point is, he put himself in that situation. Sir your ass at home, or at the very least, get a legal license to carry a firearm and practice responsible de-escalation like any rational being.

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Swedistan 8 points ago

He stole nothing. He stood up to lowlife criminals and communist terrorist. He is certainly a hero

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Mcbignuts 4 points ago

Him running away wasn't descalating enuff?

Look maybe he was an idiot who said dumb shit , maybe he did instigate, however unlikely Dat is, given the crowds behaviour

Maybe he shudnt have brought a gun wid him, he would probably join the ranks of all those racists getting beat compilations

If he broke the law, by concealed carrying without a license, he should be punished accordingly, 2a be damned

But similar treatment shud be given to his attackers who vandalized city property, attacked a man, chased him, and hounded him to the point where he had to shoot somebody

We both know that ain't gonna happen

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bubadmt 2 points ago

I see valid arguments on both sides of the fence, so I'm playing devil's advocate here. I think he did good on shooting that scum, but it would have been preferable if he hadn't engaged or even gone to tussle with them while taking down the statue. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over the guy who got shot though. Shrug

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Fabius 7 points ago

He put himself in a spot where he shouldn't have been,

You're a cuck. He can go wherever he wants. He's an American and these are public streets. You're already ceding ground to these terrorists. Fuck off.

he needlessly escalated the situation

Was he the one screaming and destroying public property? Was he the one chasing down people to beat them in the street? Fuck off.

instead of leaving

He doesn't have to leave. The mob does not own the street. You're such a fucking cuck it's unbelievable.

would the shooting have occurred had he not set himself up for those circumstances

Would the shooting have occurred if there wasn't a violent, fascist mob in the street?

You seem to think what's going on right now is somehow justified. That's it's permissible to allow violent mobs to roam our streets, tear down our monuments, and terrorize the public. It isn't. And that little fucking bitch learned the hard way. Maybe you will too, one way or another.

Charges dropped. Deal with it, cuck. You're gonna see more until the Democrat mob learns that they can't do this in our America.

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bubadmt -4 points ago

lol you're trying way too hard bud, you're practically glowing

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WildFunkyFresh 1 point ago

He could of done it without the cursing but his points are sound.

My only complain against the shooter is carrying without obtaining his permit.

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Yucky 4 points ago

He shouldn't have been there? So only leftists are allowed to protest? Got it.

Looks like the brainwashing is working.

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bubadmt -4 points ago

I live in Chicago where we had heavy looting and rioting, and I know for damn sure I didn't go out and try to stand up to them because I know my rights and fuck them! I'm not a fucking retard, I like living. Everything has a time and a place. You wanna be a dumbfuck and either die getting hit by a bike lock in the head by some unemployed loser or ruin your life fighting criminal and civil lawsuits because the joggers family decided to sue the daylights off of you, be my guest. You can play this game short and sweet or you can play it smart. Use your head.

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Room641A 152 points ago

Important lesson here. If you're attacked by a leftist mob shoot the assailant with the lightest skin tone, and you'll walk, because racism.

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decaf_covfefe 53 points ago

White privledge.

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Anaconda -171 points ago

he shot that antifa cuck in the back...but please go on.

also he got 3 battery charges against 3 women he bodyslammed because he's too much of a pussy to dare bodyslam 3 men. add a 4th illegal gun conceal carry charge because he doesn't have a license to conceal carry.

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2intheSpez1intheXi 69 points ago

Why is this account allowed to spam bullshit on this site over and over? Whenever I see a retarded take, I look at the username and it's this cuck half the time, if not more.

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TedCruzAteABoogaloo 59 points ago

Username is Anaconda...

"You knew I was a snake when you let me in."

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Fabius 32 points ago

Who cares?

Cuck has no argument. He's just getting blasted with facts and reminding everyone here that Democrats are retarded.

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JuanTitor 7 points ago

As long as he isn't slinging ad hominem, I have no problem with him speaking ridiculous things. This forum allows free speech, and where free speech is allowed, bad ideas typically get strong-armed out by good ideas, which is basically always the case with this guy.

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tangerinemanbad 7 points ago

This. I disagree with him bit I sure as shit dont believe in censorship. People here act way too much like the left sometimes

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donaldschwarzenegger 4 points ago

Mods are compromised i bet, fucking leftists have their ways of getting into the purest of platforms.

I say this because... your comment is about the 15th ive seen of people saying "Why isnt Anaconda banned yet?!" and nothing has happened. Hes gotta be on their list and they have decided that 20 red flags isnt bannable i guess? Like if i see a guy get flagged dozens of times, hes probably a troll, right?

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Indivisual_1 7 points ago

I literally just witnessed this... downvotes on his post were -100 and when I went to downvote, it reverted back to 1 right in front of my face. So now it’s at 0 bc of my downvote. Wtf?****

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DarkMemeDuck 8 points ago

That's some kind of bug. It counts the downvoted correctly but messes up on your phone. Mine does it all the time.

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the_archivist 1 point ago

It happens for me and I'm on desktop.

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Joeret 6 points ago

Refresh the page. It was -107 for me.

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_bryan 6 points ago

Mine does that too. Log out and refresh the page it will say like -133 or something.

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MemeSquad 4 points ago

Happened to me yesterday too.

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thingaboutarsenal 0 points ago

I created a post about deporting him and the mods deleted it. The only way I could see it was going through my post history. It looked an awful lot like it was shadowbanned.

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donaldschwarzenegger 2 points ago

I made about 3 comments calling him out and for mods to do something, but that was months ago. After seeing dozens of comments doing the same and nothing happening, i just stopped. Its like dealing with RINOs LOL

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Pepega 3 points ago

Who cares, he's negative one billion, we all can smell bullshit.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 1 point ago

It’s a mystery.

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thingaboutarsenal 0 points ago

Mods seem to have a soft spot for him. Why he hasn't been deported is a mystery.

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SuperCoolWagon 28 points ago

he shot that antifa cuck in the back

You lying motherfucker. Watch the video. All four shots were to the front. Then the attacker turned around and collapsed. Ban this idiot already!

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_bryan 6 points ago

I saw the video, nobody got shot in the back. That guy is just a liar propagandist.

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UpTrump 26 points ago

And antifa gets... Crickets

Why can they get away with charging a man with a knife (or just the skateboard)?

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mishaclara 26 points ago

You call them ‘women’ I think you are assuming gender.

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Fabius 25 points ago

he shot that antifa cuck in the back

Because he turned away when he saw his life flash before his eyes.

also he got 3 battery charges against 3 women

Democrat terrorists always hide behind their women like cowards. He'll be acquitted.

he's too much of a pussy to dare bodyslam 3 men

Come to think of it, maybe he should have shot one of the women instead. Equality and all. Maybe that will be a lesson to these cunts that the pussy pass won't protect them, which is why they're so mouthy and aggressive in the first place.

Just remember the next time you and your antifa buddies chase someone down, they might spin and fucking unload on you.

Charges dropped, bitch. Fuck around and find out.

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xdrunkagainx 14 points ago

As if the xer's in Antifa wouldn't lie about being assaulted...

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Mcbignuts 14 points ago

They literally went from "kill him" to "daddy help!!!" in a matter of 5 seconds

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Yucky 13 points ago

People burn down entire sections of cities and get nothing, and now you're nitpicking about this guy. Absolutely shameful and sickening.

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Mcbignuts 12 points ago

Now do antifa, just the last two weeks should be enough to throw em all in prison fr life

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Fullarr 7 points ago

And the award for worst hot take goes to.... Anaconda

Congratulations sir/madam/xe/xer

We will email you your $5 coupon to Denny's sometime in the coming weeks

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potato4dawin 6 points ago

we have the video footage, piss off with your lies, nobody is buying it.

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Ekgamut 5 points ago

Just fuck off, leftist.

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koyima 4 points ago

if women want to engage physically with men in protests, they should be willing to accept the consequences of that decision

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ca18det 2 points ago

Seethe, it brings me so much joy. This is the future of the violent mob, we won't stand for it. Keep that in mind as you try to carry out your cultural revolution you Maoist cuck.

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_bryan 1 point ago

Maybe those whores had it coming just like Nicole Brown Simpson had it coming.

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Tenet 1 point ago

I will bite, how do I find the sources to substantiate your claims? Could you help me out and link to them if you have them?

What are these battery charges, are they from the same protest? Who reported the battery, other Antifa members? What is the evidence base?

The conceal carry charge is serious, but what is the reason he failed to obtain the license? Not justifying it, just wondering. NM seems to have decent CHL laws, unless I am misinformed.

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Top-Secret-KGB-Agent 1 point ago

FAKE NEWS

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travistd6789 90 points ago

Read the article. You'll see the prosecutor is still being an asshole and holding charges over this guy's head. Almost like the skateboard that was used on him. Also, whether the antifa scum were armed or not, there is the principle of disparity of force, as in being overwhelmed by a group of people saying they are going to kill you.

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americathegr888 58 points ago

Meanwhile none of the Antifags were even arrested. Fucking clown world.

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DatNewbChemist 21 points ago

Can the defender press charges against that Antifa fag? There’s a wealth of evidence that shows the defender was being needlessly attacked even after already trying to leave. I’d get a big smile on my face if that Antifa loser not only got a fat medical bill for his latest escapades, not only got to experience the pain of being shot, but also had criminal charges thrown on him and had to serve time.

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Top-Secret-KGB-Agent 8 points ago

It’s not up to him to press charges for a violent felony. That is up to the state. And unfortunately the prosecutor is a brainwashed SJW terrorist supporter.

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americathegr888 2 points ago

Maybe, but the problem is that the local government are complicit, otherwise the Antifa terrorists would have been arrested automatically.

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JS_Mill 13 points ago

According to this shit article, he was only "tussling". No mention he was struck at least twice with a skateboard.

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Top-Secret-KGB-Agent 3 points ago

It should have read “Patriot runs for his life from wild pack of deranged violent Democrat communists.“

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Fabius 11 points ago

Doesn't matter. He'll walk in the end.

Time served.

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d_bokk 1 point ago

I keep hearing about all the women he "assaulted" but haven't seen any video so it's probably more indelible hippocampuses.

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CMDRConanAAnderson 72 points ago

Good now sue the mayor for calling you racist. Small steps. First NM, maybe we can get some momentum going. Not in liberal states though, you're fucked.

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NeverInterruptEnemy 13 points ago

ABQ is almost as liberal as California.

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Simple_Doot 13 points ago

NM is overlooked, always. Santa Fe and ABQ may as well be Seattle and Olympia. Yes, that leftist.

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Lurking-My-Life-Away 3 points ago

This is absolutely TRUE! Santa Fe and ABQ are complete shit holes. They suck up money from the oil fields in the southeast part of the state and then try to drive the oil businesses out. They are completely fucked up.

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Slick_Willys_Nutsack 55 points ago (edited)

The dude had a skateboard so I hope so. Fuck their cuck ass mayor for using this for gun control too

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police4MAGA -37 points ago

It was actually a pair of glasses, not a knife. But he did hit him with a skateboard which is a deadly weapon.

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Mr-J 41 points ago

He also had a mob of people running at him saying "KILL HIM KILL HIM WE'RE GOING TO KILL YOU" also pretty sure it was a knife and his antifa buddies took it from the scene

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Nalgahyde 35 points ago (edited)

https://i.maga.host/Sz3t7TB.jpg

Which is the pair of glasses? The long sharp-looking object in his left hand or the obscured object in his right hand? It looks like he is clutching two items (weapons?) unless this is a photoshop.

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Proudly_Deplorable 11 points ago

He was a good boy who dindu nuffin. His mommy said so. He even cleaned his room every few months.

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HelicopterPilot 12 points ago

Nah I've seen multiple stills where it's definitely glasses but the skateboard is enough to warrant deadly force in response

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AtariArtist 13 points ago

That and tackling the guy to grab his gun - ya that's a winning strategy there while yelling 'im going to kill you'.

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Italians_Invented_2A 5 points ago

It might look like a knife (with black blade) from this pic, but when I looked at the video I couldn't see a knife on the ground after he was shot. I could see only glasses.

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400DollarHandcart 10 points ago

I thought there was a video and stills that showed it was a knife in his hand. I think I saw it on here yesterday.

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Chick-fill-eh 6 points ago

Did you miss the massive club dude swung, or no?

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Ekgamut 3 points ago

Looks like you need a pair of glasses, bro.

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Slick_Willys_Nutsack 1 point ago

Shit didn't catch that thanks for the update I'll edit don't want to be fake news

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Dominick 11 points ago

It's a knife. Lol.

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Slick_Willys_Nutsack 6 points ago

Oh goddamnit I should have stuck with my gut and instincts

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PoohClimbsTrees 39 points ago

For now at least.

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Anaconda -97 points ago

he's still in jail for four charges. three aggravated battery charges against three women that he bodyslammed or pushed off of a platform a yard or two in height BEFORE the crowd starts chasing him and attacking him with a skateboard and threatened with a knife. he also doesn't have a CHL so he was illegally concealed carrying a gun.

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1273007093729996800

https://www.krqe.com/news/crime/man-arrested-for-shooting-at-onate-statue-protest-facing-new-charges/

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PoohClimbsTrees 49 points ago

Ok look, it is the guy upset a violent rioter got shot. Nice to see you again.

I will grant you he was a dipshit for concealed carry with no license.

Still a justified shooting. :)

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Wanderlust 70 points ago

I'm gonna personally disagree with you on the concealed bit. I don't see any exceptions to SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

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PoohClimbsTrees 13 points ago

Haha. I knew I should have put in that disclaimer.

It wasn't worth the effort to reply to the guy, he has a hard on for the shooter. He seems extremely upset the guy was justifiably shot.

You are worth the effort though.

I fully agree with you we shouldn't need a LTC.

Side note: He was allowed to carry, just not concealed. That was a mistake.

New Mexico is a Permissive Open Carry state. Open carry of a loaded firearm without a license is legal statewide

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Wanderlust 11 points ago

I appreciate your reply. Amen brother. I'm being short because I'm on the phone. Thank you for taking the time.

Didn't know they had that law in New Mexico. I've lived behind enemy lines for so long that seems like a dream.

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kesquare2 -1 points ago

How does the guy commenting facts with sources and 0 opinion seem upset?

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PoohClimbsTrees 3 points ago

The key words to figuring out the answer to that question are...

Nice to see you again.

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20MagnusKonrad20 2 points ago

Right. One way or the other, the presence(and use) of a gun is what ended the encounter and saved this man from being ripped to shreds by an angry mob that was chasing him down, attacking him with deadly weapons and literally announced an intent to kill.

Frankly, I'd say this encounter would be a great jumping off point to challenge permit requirements for concealed carry as being unconstitutional. Why should I have to get approval from the state to exercise my right to defend myself?

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DRKMSTR 5 points ago

Don't pay attention to anaconda, he's a shill.

He posts leftist talking points on every article.

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thingaboutarsenal 0 points ago

He says ridiculous bullshit to get everyone off topic arguing about said ridiculous bullshit. He's the herpes of trolls.

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kesquare2 -1 points ago

The guy literally wrote just the facts with 0 of his own opinion in the comment and hes a shill?

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Splitcart 16 points ago

The third person, she was spreading her arms and intentionally blocking him and pushing him backwards, so basically the same as #2 where he was retaliating.

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MatthiasBlack 8 points ago

Xhe also elbowed him in the face just before he got frisky

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Proudly_Deplorable 9 points ago

At that point, she deserved what she got. Female here. You don't get a pass just because you're a "female" Antifa terrorist. They're just as bad as the Antifa "men" and probably stronger, which isn't saying much.

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roscoeSteele 2 points ago

Note how none of these fucks care about antifa beating people and starting shit non stop and don't demand charges for the assaults

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mishaclara 10 points ago

good. too bad more commies aren’t shot dead.

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Fabius 3 points ago

Time served.

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_bryan 2 points ago

Maybe those whores had it coming just like Nicole Brown Simpson had it coming?

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Ragnar_Danneskjold 36 points ago

Torrez said that under New Mexico law, a person cannot claim self defense if they are the first aggressor.

That's the clincher. He was running away. The argument now is that he is guilty because people are claiming he was assaulting protestors and trying to start fights.

Except that doesn't matter. He ran away. It's the same reason you're not allowed to chase a home invader down and shoot him in the back down the street. The shooting, and whatever assaults he might have committed (if he even did) are separate incidents.

If I punch you in the face, and you punch me back, it's self defense. I have committed assault and battery. But if I punch you in the face, then run away, and you chase me down and beat the shit out of me, you have now also committed assault and battery. Even if you catch up to me 5 seconds later, it's still a separate incident. The first assault was complete once I tried to flee. If you then attack me, you are committing a brand new assault against me.

And the video shows this guy was running away when he was attacked and fired to defend himself. Whatever happened before that is functionally irrelevant to the case at hand. He terminated whatever incidents he may or may not have been involved in or started. He fled, and they attacked him and initiated a new instance of assault, and he defended himself.

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Italians_Invented_2A 23 points ago

This is correct. Blue shirt shot in self defense, no matter what he had done earlier because he had desisted from whatever he was doing.

By law you can't assault someone for "revenge".

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DatNewbChemist 5 points ago

I love me some stand your ground laws. A person assaulting me and then immediately running the other way should not be broken down as two “separate incidents”.

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oEMPYREo 5 points ago

In Texas law, you can’t claim self-defense if you’re the aggressor UNLESS you abandon the act you were committing (for example running away and people are now chasing you). I’d bet NM has something similar

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the_archivist 2 points ago

They were rioters destroying public property, and they pushed themselvess up against him.

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_bryan 1 point ago

Yep. It’sa double edged sword. They opened Pandora’s box.

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Smurfection -18 points ago

To pick at your analogy, what if someone punches you in the face and runs away repeatedly? Like three times?

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Ragnar_Danneskjold 24 points ago

You can defend yourself against a present and ongoing attack against you. You are not allowed to seek revenge. You are not allowed to proactively attack them to theoretically prevent a future attack that hasn't happened yet.

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Smurfection -14 points ago

So If I punched you in the face, ran away, came back a couple of minutes later, punched you in the face, ran away again, came back again in a few minutes, punched you in the face again and after all that, you then chased me, you would be committing a crime if you caught me and punched me?

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Ragnar_Danneskjold 20 points ago

Yes. Absolutely. By the letter of the law, I would be committing a crime if there were no present threat against me, and I used violence against you.

You would be charged with 1 count of assault and battery for the punch you threw at 1:10AM, 1 count of assault and battery for the punch you threw at 1:14AM, 1 count of assault and battery for the punch you threw at 1:17AM, and I would be charged with 1 count of assault and battery for the punch I threw at you at 1:19AM. Once an attack has been terminated, if a new attack is initiated, it's a separate incident and a separate crime.

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Smurfection -10 points ago

So, one more hypothetical here, if a criminal shoots a cashier in the process of robbing a register, runs out the door with the money, and a couple of coworkers, one being armed, run after the thief, catch him and the armed coworker draws his gun to hold him there, the criminal can shoot the coworker with his own gun out of self defense?

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Ragnar_Danneskjold 17 points ago (edited)

That depends entirely on the laws of that state. The robbery is terminated after the suspect leaves. That's the end of that.

An entirely separate incident begins when the armed coworkers track down the suspect. What exactly is the state law for citizens arrest? Does it say it has to be a felony? Does it say it has to be a felony committed in your presence? What about the laws of being in possession of a firearm in the commission of a crime? Keep in mind that self-defense is considered an "affirmative defense". An affirmative defense to a civil lawsuit or criminal charge is a fact or set of facts other than those alleged by the plaintiff or prosecutor which, if proven by the defendant, defeats or mitigates the legal consequences of the defendant's otherwise unlawful conduct. Which basically means that shooting a human being is a crime, but if it was in self defense, that shooting is now legal, though it would otherwise be illegal if self-defense cannot be proven. Real-world example: If you shoot someone breaking into your home with an axe, you will be handcuffed and taken into custody because you shot another person, a crime. The prosecutor (in theory, you never know these days), will look over what happened and say "This shooting is not illegal because the facts of the case warrant a valid affirmative defense of self-defense. No charges). But you're still initially getting arrested because you did still shoot someone.

Unlawful detention is also a crime. Citizens arrest is an affirmative defense to unlawful detention. Holding someone at gunpoint is a crime, but if you can establish that it was pursuant to a lawful citizens arrest, that detention is no longer illegal. The robber can try to argue self-defense, but he has to establish that it was a lawful self-defense.

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Fabius 12 points ago

This guy lawyers.

Also, awesome username.

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Smurfection -17 points ago

So, how do you think the jury is going to see the criminal that shot the co-worker?

... continue reading thread?
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contract_crusader 6 points ago

In this day an age you should be arrested for not letting the criminal shoot you but that all depends on the race first and foremost. Don't you know of the science of 'Intersectionality'?

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_bryan 1 point ago

Yes. Especially in a liberal shit hole.

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kono_hito_wa 2 points ago

You'd be getting punched in the face when you came back to try to punch again.

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Smurfection -8 points ago

Not according to the pede I was discussing this with.

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kono_hito_wa 5 points ago

He was answering your hypothetical. I inserted reality. You punch me and run away. You come back at me to punch me again, you're now the aggressor.

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Smurfection -12 points ago

I would agree with you. I'll also point out, Steven Baca assaulted a woman, ran away from the protest group, came back, assaulted a woman, ran away from the protest group, came back, and assaulted another woman. It was on his third retreat that Antifa followed him.

... continue reading thread?
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_bryan 1 point ago

Doesn’t matter.

People robbed the same house repeatedly. Owner waits for them one day, kills them and records the killing. Owner goes to jail for life.

Doesn’t matter how many times they robbed that house the owner still went to jail for life.

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AnIdahoan 35 points ago

Good. I hope the same is done with the Atlanta cop, seeing as both cases have video evidence putting them in the right.

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BiscuitsBrown 23 points ago

They are just dropping the charges "for now." So they will still at least try to lock him up for life probaby.

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BiscuitsBrown 16 points ago

I expect this to be the first of many cases. Laws only apply to white conservatives after all!

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Mcbignuts 4 points ago

Exactly

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GenderlessWookie 8 points ago

You must be new to the way our justice system works. Little guys get fucked, major players get warnings and strongly worded letters. And we write little pissed off messages to each other like school children.

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americathegr888 4 points ago

Little guys are fine if they're black ISIS or Antifa. None of the rioters were arrested.

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fadingecho 2 points ago (edited)

Coincidentally a tail light violation is now a felony and he has a tail light out.

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yzzp 2 points ago

i would get the fuck out of that state when legally possible asap

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_bryan 2 points ago

The trial is the punishment. Don’t use your gun. The 2A is dead.

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Marble68 17 points ago

Anyone who's seen ANTIFA beat people to near death knows that if your life is in danger if the mob decides to physically attack you.

They won't let you walk away, they will beat you to death. Stomp on your head while unconscious and kick you the face for kicks.

If the mob attacked me, I'd 100% believe, with unwavering certainty, that my life was in imminent jeopardy.

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Patriot_Alliance 3 points ago

At trial all you do is show 100 videos of antifa mobs attacking people. It's pretty clear that even without a skateboard, being attacked by a mob is a life threatening situation.

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Foreverperfect81 16 points ago

Leftists are pissed which means the right thing was done.

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Fabius 3 points ago

Bingo.

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yzzp 2 points ago

but hes not black so it wont have around the clock coverage to drum up anger

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Autismo 15 points ago

Good. finally some fucking sanity.

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CantStumpTrump 12 points ago

Good. Now time for the Atlanta cop.

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TheTPL 11 points ago

If I've read the evidence correctly, it appeared from the beginning that the police who filed the paperwork backed up his assertion of self-defense.

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Cuckslayer2020 9 points ago

Now drop the charges on the two Atlanta police officers

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barron_height_watch 8 points ago

Pleasantly shocked by this, assume they wanted to psychologically torture him in jail for as long as possible. But the videos are crystal-clear.

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Mcbignuts 7 points ago

They attacked him wid a fuckin skateboard, also since when is it legal to mob up on ppl, chase them, attack them and finally play victim when they legitimately fight back

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OneIfByLand 6 points ago

“Torrez filed four new charges against Baca for unlawful carrying of a firearm and battery for allegedly assaulting three women before the shooting.“

As I said in my post yesterday, these people are out to get you.

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GeneralBoobs 4 points ago

Whoops! It's almost like all these DAs are being reactionary instead of acting like the authority figures they should be because they are more worried about being reelected instead of doing their duty.

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the-new-style 4 points ago

multiple weapons collected at the scene, including knives

the amount of people in here who were saying "it's clearly just sunglasses"

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not_a_shill 4 points ago

They still calling him a "shooter" instead of a victim who defended themself... tryign to stir shit up.

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dnewlander 3 points ago

The local prosecutor referred it to the state police, and stated that they could bring the charge back.

This is not yet a win, folks.

But since the local police dispersed everyone with tear gas and have to go on cell phone video, he'll probably go free if it actually makes it to trial.

What pisses me off is that no one has been charged with destruction of public property for swinging a pickax at a city statue.

And that our dipshit mayor let the idiots win, by taking the statue away in the dead of night. (Literally: 3 am Tuesday morning.)

I hated our idiot mayor before. Now I despise him.

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Joesf23 3 points ago

Lololoololol! Good! Antifa thinks they get a free pass right now and 2A folks get the book thrown at them. Yes, there is a 2 tier justice system, 1 for conservatives and one for communists and deep state perps.

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HiddenDekuScrub 3 points ago

Incidentally, the gun stores here sold out of 9mm ammo the night this happened. I think it scared a few folks.

Don't lookit me, I only got like 15 left over from the class. :( Not enough to practice with.

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lurkwellmyfriends 3 points ago

Completely justified.

  • Attacked with a deadly weapon

  • Mobbed

This is what it takes. Sub-humans have to know and understand that there will be consequences or else they'll beat you, submit you, and take your shit. That's the way it's been all the way through human history and that's the way it'll always be.

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nomoreprinkles 3 points ago

Never should've been charged to begin with but at least there's that.

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PezzShivers 3 points ago

He dropped the charge and then charged him with 4 different charges 3 of them charges for allegedly assaulting 3 women before the shooting. What a fucking joke.

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The_PhDeplorable 3 points ago

This shooting was completely justified. Imagine being chased by an angry mob shouting "We're going to kill you!"... What would you do?

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Berzerker_king 3 points ago

It is not enough to get acquittal. These guys must sue the govt for harrassment and discrimination on political grounds etc. It is not enough that you were able to dodge the spit targetted at your face. You have to slap the person for trying to do so.

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Jack_Dupp 3 points ago

This title is misleading.

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ReligionOfPoop 3 points ago

Headline seems a little off -

Investigation is not over. He can still be charged.

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TrumpOrTreason 3 points ago

Cause the protestor wasn't black.

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DatNewbChemist 3 points ago

What a bullshit written article. Normally I think Reuters tries to keep partisanship in check, but this is slanted to hell and back.

It makes zero mention that the shooter was attempting to flee the group of attackers AFTER they had already attacked him. It makes no mention that he brandished his handgun as a last resort effort to be able to leave without further being attacked. It makes no mention that he was attacked by three people (one of which hit him in the back of the head with a skateboard) once he started walking away. It makes no mention that people were shouting g “We’re going to fucking kill you” while he was being attacked the second time.

What does it say? That he “got into a tussle and then shot the protester”. The writer knows exactly the shit they just pulled. That wasn’t a “tussle”, that was a man desperately trying to flee an angry mob clearly trying to beat him to death. That wasn’t a “then he shot”, that was a man who was just struck multiple times to the head by a blunt object and being told he was about to die trying his best to stop his attacker from further harming him as they were locked together and the attacker refused to allow the man to leave.

What a piece of partisan trash.

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txladyvoter 3 points ago

Voters of New Mexico ink RED in November! Drain the sand of the demrats.

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lixa 3 points ago

God bless 🙏🏻🙌🏻 May the Lord protect all that is right and good in this world.

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PinochetWasAHero 3 points ago

So curious that the press hasn’t mentioned that this guy is most likely “hispanic”. Baca is a very Spanish last name...

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doodaddy 2 points ago

Who aggressed First? Well the full set of mob zealots chasing him was yelling “kill him” so...

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Kydos 2 points ago

Videos show Baca, a counterprotester at a demonstration to remove a conquistador statue, tussling with demonstrators before pulling out a handgun and shooting several times.

A real journalist might have written what actually happened:

Videos show Baca, a counterprotester at a demonstration to remove a conquistador statue, tussling with a rioter who was trying to push him away from the statue. Baca attempted to flee from more rioters before two of them wrestled him to the ground. After a third rioter hit him over the head with a skateboard, Baca produced his handgun and shot several times at the third attacker.

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BasedCostanza91 2 points ago

https://i.imgur.com/f0qUtMv.jpg Antifa fuck tried to stab him after bashing his head with a skateboard.

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koyima 1 point ago

play the video, it is actually glasses

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Philhelm 2 points ago

We should burn the city to the ground if he's charged. That's what Democrats have taught me.

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SDhiker 2 points ago

Wow, they're actuality going to investigate and interview witnesses? Imagine that.

The DA will get his pound of flesh from this guy one way or the other. If they have to admit the shooting was clean then they'll no doubt throw the book at him for the battery and firearm charge.

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contract_crusader 3 points ago

Shouldn't he counter sue on the 14th amendment or something equal application of the law? If they bring everyone that laid hands on him to say he assaulted them and they are not charged as well....

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verycute 2 points ago

I hope he presses charges against the girl that started it all.

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Austin62Halo 2 points ago

Sue the shit off them

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ElephantManatee 2 points ago

the whole point is to scare people awsy from defending themselves, this will not get nearly the coverage of the guy being arrested. its all theatre

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TheContrarian2 2 points ago

I would like to thank 4chan for finding footage of the skateboard attacker yielding knives thus making it clear that the shooting was an act of self defense.

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Zytos 2 points ago

Media still calling these assholes "protestors." Dude was lunging at someone with a knife. Muh "protest."

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OlDirtyBarrister 2 points ago

LETS GOOOOO

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NotMadeInChina 2 points ago

GOOD I’m quite pleasantly surprised the videos online had a bearing on this. Antifa knife asshole got what he deserved.

Also glad to see they’re not necessarily considering the earlier “tussling” in the altercation that caused the shooting... guess that could still change but so far doesn’t seem to be as big a factor as I’d feared.

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IvIA6A 2 points ago

That's good news but I fear all prosecutors are now in the "charge first ask questions later" mode.

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Lawless 2 points ago

Finally some sanity

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Luvmyhub75 2 points ago

I’m so glad because this world is getting more and more evil everyday!

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BeauBidenBrainTumor 2 points ago

Baca made the smart move: keeping his mouth shut and letting his attorney do the talking. The charges getting dropped (possibly temporarily) is a sign that this isn't the slam dunk case the prosecutor was thinking it would be. Having the attackers screaming "we're going to kill you" with one wielding a skateboard and the other (at least perceivably) holding a knife makes this unprosecutable. Self-defense.

Prediction: Blue shirt gets charged for his assaults on others prior to the shooting, the Antifa types (as usual) get off scot-free. The statue is relocated elsewhere in private hands.

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Triptrop702 2 points ago

This is great news, now we can focus on getting Officer Rolfe, justice.

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HenkZeilstra 2 points ago

But they still charge him for unlawful carry, wtf 2A ain’t shit in New Mexico. Trump needs to re-instate the 2A for all in any state

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jda70 2 points ago

This and this

Torrez said that under New Mexico law, a person cannot claim self defense if they are the first aggressor.

Torrez filed four new charges against Baca for unlawful carrying of a firearm and battery for allegedly assaulting three women before the shooting.

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contract_crusader 4 points ago

Torrez is really coming after this guy aggressively. Guess that means we can hang Torrez now and he cannot self defend.

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RiverRunnerVDB 2 points ago

Good.

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1b2a 2 points ago

Let this a be a lesson to all cucks

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thereal____ 2 points ago

This is the first reasonable decision I’ve heard about in the last few weeks.

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Asshat4Congress 2 points ago

So does this mean we are gonna have to deal with #antifalivesmatter tomorrow?

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yzzp 2 points ago

normie black protesters dont like them because they are just little white boy agitators highjacking their spotlight

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mishaclara 1 point ago

Yes!

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 1 point ago

Don’t call it a pushback.

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kcfreels 1 point ago

I didn't think we could find a prosecutor who actually wanted to look at evidence, maybe it's not all lost!

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Sum9 1 point ago

All this means is they admitted they charged too fast because the Governor and Mayor gave their blessing. This allows them to claim they made a legitimate investigation before they pile all the charges back on.

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Tenet 1 point ago

Routers lies even in that short report. The shooter was under attack and running away. Trying to get away means he is entirely on the defensive. Following him and continuing to attack him is assault.

It actually does not matter "who started it" because a person running away is no longer a threat. Knowing how Antifa behave, I have little doubt they are lying about the start of the fighting.

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USA1 1 point ago

Give the system time. It works...generally.

Sometimes it's the hard stuff that redpills people.

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Dialectic 1 point ago

I’m honestly surprised they didn’t try to crucify him. Glad it’s working out for him

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TRUMPets 1 point ago

There needs to be way more of this IMO

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672-EVIL 1 point ago

Good.

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bubadmt 1 point ago

Riots in 3.. 2... 1....

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yzzp 1 point ago

not really normies/media dont care about some little white balding millennial antifa kid it isnt even being covered

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GentleGentile 1 point ago

This was a clear case of self defense--antifa thugs trying to beat him to death with a skateboard. So glad he's out of the clear and taught Antifa not to mess with Conquistadors! Love our Based Conquistadors!

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TrumpKnowsKungFu 1 point ago

Aint no knife, but do your thing. Skateboard was a deadly object.

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Freebird 1 point ago

The high quality footage seems to show a knife to me. What do you think it was?

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TrumpKnowsKungFu 0 points ago

Well, keeping in mind they just dropped charges over the knife suggestion, so better image analyst eyes will look at this than mine - BUT, I'm positive it was his glasses, which he shatters in half with his hand after he's shot.

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koyima 0 points ago

in the video he drops glasses

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SuperCoolWagon 1 point ago

Can we keep this stickied for a week or so? We need good news like this to stay up.

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20KAG20 3 points ago

The fact he was charged at all while all the Antifa pieces of shit were not is NOT good news. Fuck New Mexico. Fuck Democrats.

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Dudemanfoo 1 point ago

fucking excellent... start a trend.

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insert_username_here 1 point ago

It reads like they're just holding off on the charges, and will ultimately find him guilty because he earlier threw one of the protestors to the ground. It's still wrong -- their reaction shouldn't have been attempted murder

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Jekicalif 1 point ago

Let’s get a brick for this 505 patriot.

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RevDrEBuzzMiller 1 point ago

why didn't he just allow that BLM supporter the pleasure of killing him??? It's just terrible that the BLM supporter wasn't given that chance.

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buildUSgreatagain 1 point ago

Unfortunately he's going to have that charge show up every time a cop runs his license plate or driver's license.

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Musman 1 point ago

Did the scumbag who got shot die?

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Talismanace 1 point ago

I have the feeling this'll cause more rioting because REEE "How dare someone who popped a cap in an Antifa member gets a slap on the wrist!"

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ayemfuct 1 point ago

This makes me irrationally happy.

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f_bastiat 0 points ago

It was clearly self defense and about as clear cut as it can be, BUT that guy was being a scum bag before that and I'm not going to celebrate him, I watched all the videos of him trying to start shit and he earned an ass kicking imho.

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Kekception 0 points ago

Also don’t forget the law that if he was the “aggressor” he can’t claim self defense. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. This is all so dumb... commie gonna commie. Dude shot him (I would have to if someone had a knife pulled on me). So I can’t blame the guy. Go looking for a fight and find one you gotta deal with the blow back. Bullshit still...

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zippy2 1 point ago

Theres no knife Its glasses

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Asshat4Congress 1 point ago

Knife is irreverent, once you hit someone in the head with the trucks of a skateboard the fight has escalated to deadly force.

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zippy2 1 point ago

Yes. Just trying to keep facts straight

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Dimedog -1 points ago

Antifa are the new confederates

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GiveMeMyCountryBack 3 points ago

They’re not that strong. In a real war antifa would get destroyed very fast. These puny white soy boys wouldn’t stand a chance.

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MAGA_From_Heaven 1 point ago

No, there is worse than that. C'mon... what is wrong with Secession? Do you disagree with BREXIT?