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Long_time_lurker 300 points ago

The Guardian is leftist trash, here's an archive link for your safety: http://archive.is/cloVY

Yeah, this is important news. That's the problem, we're overloaded with important news lately...

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saveMySpeech [S] 202 points ago (edited)

The Guardian is leftist trash

100% true! But that's what makes this even better to help red pill the normies! I am surprised they even ran this whole story! Spread it everywhere!

Also highjacking this comment for more info:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

https://www.medicineuncensored.com/a-study-out-of-thin-air

https://zenodo.org/record/3873178

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-the-lancet-observational-study-surgisphere/

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/06/02/surgisphere-and-their-data

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/concerns-build-about-surgisphere-corporations-dataset-67605

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS0140-6736(20

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2020822


Also remember:

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/Hydroxychloroquine.pdf

For over 50 years, CDC said hydroxychloroquine is safe to take for any length of time, safe for children, safe for pregnant women when taken to prevent malaria. Then suddenly "experts" started claiming it can be fatal and dangerous and what not.

For anyone who tries to argue you about the side effects, show them this and read the "Adverse Events" on page 12 PDF:

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article-pdf/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/33312601/kwaa093.pdf

This concerns the entirety of HCQ use over more than 50 years of data, likely millions of uses and of longer-term use than the 5 days recommended for Covid-19 treatment.

Nevertheless, even if the combined HCQ+AZ produced a 10-fold higher incidence of fatal Torsades de Pointes and long QT-interval syndrome than either agent alone, and even if both events were 10-fold underreported in FAERS, thus hypothetically giving 1200 fatal events, that would still be very small compared to the millions of uses of these medications that the FAERS database represents.

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Long_time_lurker 107 points ago

Of course, I agree with posting the story, I just wanted to give an archive so we don't feed them clicks.

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saveMySpeech [S] 65 points ago

100% thanks pede!

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agile_a 60 points ago (edited)

you ever notice how every single left-wing study is just propaganda from discredited organizations?

seriously. anytime the Democrat media reports on some study you can always use being or DuckDuckGo and find that it's been debunkedd

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Please_Clap 72 points ago

We are at war folks. The Information War is at hand. This is World War III we are in.

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BonerDonor 30 points ago

Bill Clinton is a rapist

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rooftoptendie 10 points ago

HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH

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higgles 6 points ago

ebaumsworld.com

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Southern_Belle 10 points ago

Yes.

We are in WWIII and we are fighting the Fourth Reich.

George Soros is literally a Nazi collaborator.

When he funds BLM, that means they are funded by Nazis.

The Nazis didn't lose. They just went underground and now they are popping back up.

Replace National with Global or...International.

Get it?

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CarpenterRichard 3 points ago

This ☝!I

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SadPangolin 25 points ago

you ever notice how every single left-wing study is just propaganda from discredited organizations?

They're not called People of the Lie for nothing.

Satan is a liar. And Satan is their master.

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rumptious 6 points ago

Remember that Allah is the king of the liars.

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Southern_Belle 2 points ago

The Illuminati worship him.

Illu = Allah.

Satanists.

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linereddit 1 point ago

Username checks out ++

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blurryface 13 points ago

Almost all studies are complete bullshit. From the food industry, to the medical industry, to climate change, to environmental protection, the studies they use for zoning.

Every single solitary thing. It's all just designed for those in power to continue to consolidate power in their hands only.

The whole worlds a lie.

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TheThreeSeashells 8 points ago

Almost all studies are complete bullshit.

The key is usually to figure out who's paying for the study.

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litsy 3 points ago

I'd like to see every university and publicly funded study be required to redo two other studies. A lot of studies are poorly done and a simple literature review isn't enough to catch it. Redos would give undergraduates and younger graduates more opportunities to participate in a valid scientific process while also improving the methods of studies overall.

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masculinist 2 points ago

It'd be reasonable to require all peer reviewers to run the method using the author's data and make sure it checks out, and no more anonymous reviewers, so there's always a trail.

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blurryface 1 point ago

Totally agree.

And no more computer models for determining anything l.

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buco 9 points ago

Has Fauci been arrested yet?

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ATFGlowBoy69 9 points ago

We need a "Has X been arrested yet?" bot, that simply says "No."

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Meddlesom 5 points ago

Their entire climate change model is based on a comic that some cartoonist came up with.

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MW23232 5 points ago

Yes, absolutely. But this time it looks like it is already being debunked, and I believe next it will come out that we are going to find this will all be connected to some very familiar people. We'll find that they allegedly knew this was all fake, and perhaps even hired this company to do this fake study to mislead the world, humiliate our President, (does this set-up sound familiar to anyone else) and kill more people, esp. the elderly. (Thank God a few doctors went ahead and believed the President and believed in HCQ and used it anyway, because it obviously does save lives!) But we'll find out when the lawsuits start flying exactly who was really responsible for allegedly hiring this fake "company", to do this alleged fake "study" and getting these totally fake results noticed on such a scale. Because Surgisphere is not going to stay quiet and take 100% of the blame itself. This is too much. This crosses the line. It must all be revealed. This is mass murder. People's loved ones were needlessly murdered. The truth has to come out.

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Southern_Belle 3 points ago

Hashtag

WAR CRIMES

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4WhomTheBellsTroll 3 points ago

we are not pedes, we are .WINNERS

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WilburPudding 28 points ago

Maybe we do want to feed them clicks for honest news though. A reward for covering it.

Tells them real news is profitable

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saveMySpeech [S] 12 points ago

I think the reason TheGuardian covered it might have to do with the Australian Guardian first publishing it because the hospitals from Aus all said they have no idea who this fake company is

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MedPede 2 points ago

No - this is the reason the Guardian covered it --> Ariane Anderson:

SurgiSphere / QuartzClinical's Director of Sales Marketing is actually an event hostess doing modeling work:
https://i.imgur.com/tMSMLzS.jpg (no nudity, but maybe a bit risqué for work.)

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masculinist 1 point ago

Good lord, she's probably a Vegas stripper

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Long_time_lurker 8 points ago

I wish I believed that. I think the only reason they're admitting to it is because their riots are going to cause more Covid.

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saveMySpeech [S] 14 points ago

Lol I really doubt they care about covid...

I think this might have to do with the Australian Guardian first publishing it because the hospitals from Aus all said they have no idea who this fake company is

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philandy 4 points ago

Support the author at least.

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masculinist 2 points ago

Mehdi? Why support him?

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philandy 1 point ago

It's simply refreshingly good work. That should be supported.

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driveshack 2 points ago

They post an article you like, and you dont want to give them clicks? Thats why they dont usually post article we like.

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Perfektenschlag2400 16 points ago

Thank you for posting this. I had been following this story since The Lancet published their study. I also had talks with several colleagues discussing the legitimacy of the findings. (Yes, i thought it was shit and I was concerned about the timing. And yes, it caused a long week for me having to explain that hydroxychloroquine won't give you a heart attack.) People do need to understand there are also politics involved in medicine. It sucks, but it is reality. Luckily, I was trained to understand this, as well as, many of colleagues. Its our job as clinicians to read the data and apply it to our patient population evaluated risks and benefits. We do need more research in regards to COVID, but i felt this release to be political. Over the past week, I have seen several medical websites i use for research question the findings. It has been interesting. If anyone has any questions about hydroxychloroquine please feel free to ask. I dont have much experience in regards to treating COVID, but I use this medication daily in treating rheumatologic diseases.

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undecidedmask 7 points ago

Once you saw the price difference between Hydroxycloriquin and the R drug (can't remember the name), you could see the plot.

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leing15 7 points ago

Surely the fact that Remdesivir is very expensive and HCQ isn't is a big factor in the political move to discredit HCQ, but a huge part of it was to extend the lockdown (which a proven cure would make obsolete), let the deaths accumulate and the economy tank completely so Trump could unreasonably be blamed for for it all, and directly demoralize Trump for simply mentioning that HCQ was a promising drug in the treatment of CV-19, which he did AFTER some studies and doctors' experiences in using it to treat hundreds of patients showed that HCQ combined with Zinc and Azithromycin had been effective in saving lives of patients already seriously ill and also in preventing CV-19 patients from getting seriously sick from it.

Unfortunately, leftists and their fake news media claimed that Trump's statement on HCQ was completely 'unsubstantiated' (as if he had pulled his positive view of HCQ absolutely out of nowhere and HCQ hadn't already been considered a safe drug, even for preventive purposes, for over 50 yrs).

From the day Trump first made a positive statement about HCQ, the campaign started to discredit the drug, and even classify it as a killing drug. This is not a coincidence.

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linereddit 4 points ago

On-point perfection.

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BIG_TUNA 6 points ago

god among men, thank you for this extra context

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Block_Helen 5 points ago

Thank you pede!

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Bramble 23 points ago

The fact that it is leftist trash is exactly the stories we need to push. Promoting stories from publications that leftists praise increases the chance they start to ask real questions.

Once they start asking questions red pills come quickly after.

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FlippingSwitchesUSA 16 points ago

The question is which government official has a serious stake or relative in this "Surgisphere" company.

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saveMySpeech [S] 14 points ago

I think Surgisphere is a front for something else considering it appeared out of nowehere 2 months ago and used to run cryptocurrency scams until few days ago.

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themightykekfish 7 points ago

It’s an llc the government subcontracts like a non commissioned officer.

They do the dirty work, get paid...Then poof it’s gone once the deal it’s done.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 9 points ago

50 bucks the "adult content creator" is some deep state muckety mucks fuck toy

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AlohaSnackbar 6 points ago

Nah... She's over 12, and everyone knows the deep state is like the tortoise, they get in before the hair.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 1 point ago

More likely a procurer to be honest. Now if it was a dude... I'd be certain

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Block_Helen 9 points ago

Thank you! Saving in my Chinese Lung AIDS folder....

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rooftoptendie 5 points ago

I call mine the "FUCK YOU FAUCCI" folder

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Block_Helen 4 points ago

Kek

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BidensHairyLegs 5 points ago

Genuinely surprised ANY article from the Guardian that could possibly put Trump in a good light would be published.

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Techrev 5 points ago (edited)

What browser are you guys using, because all I get is a DOH thing, telling me how bad Firefox is - even if I use Chrome. I agree that DOH is bad, but right now I'm having a lot of issues finding a good browser. Huh, turned off DOH in Firefox (it would be a good thing if it didn't all get routed through Cloudflare, which I hate and don't trust), but I still get the message. My Windows version shouldn't have it built in. I guess I'll try vpn.

***Works fine with VPN.

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ShitComment 2 points ago

It's yesterday's news cycle, at best.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 93 points ago

Even if the US did no better than South Dakota, our total deaths would be below 9,000. Not 100,000+.

Following Dr Zelenko's protocol of Trump pills does even better. One (female) Governor, of SD was able to stand up to this bureaucracy and insure that once you test positive, you get "whatever you need" and are included in a Statewide study.

At least 40 Governors have repeated Cuomo's mistake.

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trumplandslide 45 points ago

Yep, except in Cuomo's case I really doubt that it was a "mistake"

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 23 points ago

Hard to tell how many of the other Governors repeating Cuomo's (intentional evil) mistake are knowingly committing evil, or simply following precedent in lockstep with orangemanbad. Fortunately different criminal charges exist that make intent unnecessary to prove. And with all the criminal charges they're guilty of, they can all die as paupers in prison, sending the necessary message to all future would-be tyrants. We now know this message won't still be heard 245 years from now, but it will last longer than 20.

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saveMySpeech [S] 21 points ago

Back in March, the American Health Care Association told Cuomo, Wolf, Murphy etc to stop ordering infected patients into nursing homes. The governors ignored the AHCA:

https://www.ahcancal.org/News/news_releases/Pages/Long-term-care-leaders-address-state-orders-on-hospital-admissions-to-nursing-homes.aspx

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IAbsolutelyDare 4 points ago

Early as March we had the cure and we knew exactly what not to do. This whole thing (fake and exaggerated as it is) was unnecessary.

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BonerDonor 4 points ago

The default position for the ignorant yet elected is the same as people all in for evil.

Someone who is truly good will act in opposition to the common narrative

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sfluke8 7 points ago

They wanted the deaths, that's why the put positive patients into nursing homes, anything to make Trump look bad.

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trumplandslide 3 points ago

Exactly!

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A1waysLurk1ing 16 points ago

You mean his blueprint to calculated mass murder...

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago

Yes! Although the architects designed the blueprint no later than 1913. Not sure how when or why Cuomo signed on. Bill Clinton learned it from his College Prof, Carrol Quigley.

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JudgeWhoAllowsStuff 1 point ago

Can you elaborate on that?

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Redleg37 7 points ago

I work for a VA hospital in western South Dakota. We have had only 1 veteran with Covid in our hospital, plus 2 more in home health, and three more admitted to a public hospital. Of the six total patients only one died, of a coronary issue.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago

Thank you for this! Was the coronary issue death in any way legitimately tied to HCQ use? I ask because the left has been trying to say it's too dangerous to use, when millions have taken it for 50 years and we know how to screen for that problem. Which hasn't stopped a couple prominent studies from being bad science and worse medicine, one of which was in our VA.

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Redleg37 1 point ago

I have no idea

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stjdalen 72 points ago

We are seeing mass gatherings of thousands and thousands of people all over the U.S, also London, breaking social distancing rules, so it's obvious it was all a hoax

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leakmouth 57 points ago

Health “experts” are now saying that it’s OK to gather to protest George Floyd killing because of the public health crisis for black people due to white supremacy but it’s not OK to gather to protest the coronavirus lockdowns 🤡 🌎

https://thedonald.win/p/FysSbonp/public-health-experts-support-ge/c/

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saveMySpeech [S] 15 points ago

I wish I was on that SpaceX rocket out of this planet...

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BonerDonor 6 points ago

You're more likely to be shot by a fellow "protester" than be victim of white supremacy.

Seriously, who even picks these boogeymen? Nazis, Russians, what's next?

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Averon 3 points ago

Space aliens probably...

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Tardigrade 6 points ago

I really thought this was a joke. I should know better by now but damn.

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Averon 1 point ago

It's hard to tell nowadays.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 5 points ago

H O N K

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Keiichi81 5 points ago

You can gather to vandalize and burn a church, but you better not gather to pray in one!

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GrandInquisitor 3 points ago

Completely insane. These people have a mind infection.

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Thingthing22 3 points ago

Because they know they can fuck over the populations for political gain and no politician could question them because they're not doctors.

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ivan_iii_of_russia 3 points ago

Anyone with more than 2 brain cells can see that everything the left and their “experts” do is aimed at hurting Trump by destroying America. No principles. No basis in fact, truth, or reality. Pure emotion.

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Strategerium 3 points ago

The problem is, any investigation is already too late. As a paper-only shell company, there are a tons of exit strategies for all involved.

  • NEJM and WHO can blame each other, when someone goes digging further, they can point to Surgisphere and cry victim they were fooled. Easy for NEJM to change their article/archive policy to hide the info, WHO will just edit their website.

  • Surgisphere can just decline to comment, close down their site...etc. Stall for time each day there is no criminal investigation. Does anyone expect to find a server with all emails that wasn't wiped?

  • MSM can just say their "reporters are not scientist" and even cry victim that they were fooled.

This might be a new chapter in misinformation operations. Think about this: to run a presidential campaign or primary takes tens of millions, to run TV/Web advert campaign takes millions. What this case has done, is that for probably few hundred thousand dollars and six faux employees, they bypassed all of that and went straight to policy outcomes. A stealth bomber nowadays means spending billions to drop bombs on some worthless cave, while this is for a few hundred thousand swaying trillion dollar fortunes. For relatively low sum and shaking the right hands, they bought international pandemic policy that affected billions of people. To misinform and misleading people, this is quite possibly the most successful asymmetrical campaign to date.

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themightykekfish 2 points ago

Ironically the same people that told us to stay inside.🤔

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philandy 1 point ago

Doesn't matter, even alternative news put a timer for mid-June as a wait and see for all the coughing to start mid-riot. 🤔

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TampaMAGA 62 points ago

Fauci needs a Salem witch Trial

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FliesTheFlag 33 points ago

He needed it 20 years ago, guy is a piece of shit.

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Quietam_Unum 21 points ago

Damrite! He turned me into a newt.

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Tardigrade 11 points ago

You look normal.

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BonerDonor 9 points ago

I got better

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Tardigrade 6 points ago

Finally the right response.

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JerryJerryJerry 2 points ago

Possibly my favorite line of the movie, throwaway or not.

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Tardigrade 1 point ago

Ah, carry on.

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Aeronomer 3 points ago

I got better...

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KekistanPM 3 points ago

Me too! I woke up one morning and suddenly I had white hair, gained a hundred lbs. and people kept calling me the former speaker of the house!

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MaxineWaters4Prez 4 points ago

A criminal trial will do just fine.

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OneOfMany_MAGA 60 points ago (edited)

This tiny company appears to have just made up the data used in the Lancet and NEJM studies cautioning against HCQ. It has changed treatment policy around the globe.

The 6-employee company claimed to have data sharing agreements with 1200 hospitals around the world. But these hospitals are saying they have no such agreement and have never heard of the company.

The company’s marketing manager is a stripper and their data analyst is a sci-fi/fantasy illustrator.

If HCQ turns out to be even mildly beneficial, tens of thousands around the world May have been killed by this American company.

Does this company or any member have financial Ties to Gilead or other competing drug makers? How about to democrat linked groups?

An immediate and high level criminal investigation and audit of this company and all officers is necessary. Our most esteemed medical journals may have misled the world and caused extensive preventable death around the globe.

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saveMySpeech [S] 24 points ago

Don't forget that the company only has 5 employees who joined 5 months ago, none have any scientific background and the website used to have cryptocurrency scam until few days ago:

https://www.medicineuncensored.com/a-study-out-of-thin-air

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MaxineWaters4Prez 5 points ago

Vaccine for what? The sniffles, with a virulency less than Influenza B that peaked April 11th and dropped completely off the bell curve 2 weeks ago?

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Averon 1 point ago

And governments across the world will still want to mandate that everyone take it. They may even ask China to accidentally release another version of the virus and play it up in the media as the worst virus ever known to man just to get people on board with taking the vaccine that somehow amazingly works for the new strain of the virus.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 9 points ago

You'd think the NWO could afford a better front-end company for their fake study.

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GrandInquisitor 4 points ago

Right?

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undecidedmask 2 points ago

Must have blown their budget on child slaves.

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Poldiel 2 points ago

If they spent more money and involved more people, they increase the risk of being directly connected to it. With this, we can basically prove nothing about who was behind this company appearing out of nowhere.

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Southern_Belle 2 points ago

No one is supposed to check!

You're supposed to be swayed by images of prestige; by smoke and mirrors, and by celebrities.

Trust ALL authority figures -- didn't you get the memo?

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BonerDonor 7 points ago

It's a huge favor to China as they'll be able to say, look, we knew HCQ was the cure (they did publish a paper on it) and yet you guys ran disinformation

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UpTrump 1 point ago

That would be good because our media would look bad

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Moviefone_Kramer 6 points ago

Studies are rife with corruption. I recall that even in the leftist doc about the housing crisis, one economist admitted to just writing papers for money.

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Forgototherpassword 5 points ago

Sounds like Snopes

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GrandInquisitor 3 points ago

There's no way this could have or should have made through peer review in leading journals such as the Lancet, unless they or WHO, or someone in the chain, were complicit.

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_bryan 3 points ago

I can tell you that's how all big companies work. Someone says "You'll be pushing this through" and it gets pushed through. Even when it goes against all the "rules" they had before. In fact, especially when.

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GrandInquisitor 1 point ago

Yeah, but there's a large difference between a rapacious hedge fund on wall street doing that, and an ostensibly non-profit medical journal that's focused on medical science. Both are bad, but the latter is a more egregious morally, given orgs like the Lancet ostenibly hold public and medical trust from rigorous obeservance of the scientific method and principled review of medical studies. Most people aren't expecting JP Morgan to have some saintly values, lol.

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OneOfMany_MAGA 2 points ago

The peer review process might not catch the type of malfeasance used here. Only by catching inconsistencies in the data compared to real world reporting was it discovered that the data was fraudulent. A peer review committee doesn’t necessarily perform that level of investigation. They are more concerned with methodology, validity, etc. it can be hard to tell that the data is all fake. So I don’t necessarily find the reviewers at fault yet, although both Lancet and NEJM have strong liberal biases and obviously wanted HCQ to be discredited.

It does bear investigation if there are relationships between the reviews and competing drug companies (Gilead, etc) or the democrat affiliated groups.

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GrandInquisitor 1 point ago (edited)

I don't agree on the liberal point though. Why would they want HCQ to fail, as doctors. How is that liberal? The lancet has a decade old article saying CQ is effective against other coronaviruses. What I'm saying is this isn't studying the effects of something such as abortion procedures. Besides "trump said it," usually the Lancet type publications aren't THAT partisan, and it's a globally focused journal right?

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OneOfMany_MAGA 1 point ago

I am grateful that not everyone has had to endure the toxic leftism that permeates the NEJM and the Lancet.

If you really want to expose yourself to such things, you can duckduckgo TRUMP LANCET or any liberal topic like CLIMATE CHANGE LANCET or TRANSGENDER LANCET.

Sorry.

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ivan_iii_of_russia 2 points ago

Their website reads and looks like the work of a high schooler who completely BS’d a whole essay with fancy words just to sound smart to an English teacher.

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_bryan 2 points ago

esteemed medical journals

That's an oxymoron.

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Torrible 45 points ago

It’s hard to really tell what they are covering up anymore. China flu to avoid elections? Riots because China flu ended too fast? Either one of these to cover up Obamagate happening now?

I’m going to go with the tactic of force feeding through a fire hose. They are purposefully doing all this chaos to cover up everything they are doing illegally. Democrats are a fucking poison. Their party needs to be removed.

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NormaJeanRocks 12 points ago

Most if not all of them belong in prison

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MaxineWaters4Prez 10 points ago

They are sacrificing America and its people in a Hail Mary attempt to overthrow the president of the United States of America through sedition, violent mercenaries, propaganda, incitement, fear, tyranny and lies.

If it seems that the actions of this criminal enterprise are getting less veiled and increasing in severity it is because desperation is setting in. They are about to lose the war.

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GrandInquisitor 3 points ago

If true, we need actual martial action. Sedition, treason, etc.

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Nellie_the_Beaut 8 points ago

NANCY PELOSI AND THE DNC ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING WE ARE SUFFERING THROUGH FOR THE LAST 4 MONTHS. This is why she refused to call the House back into session and extended their “hiatus” for another month 8 days ago - the day before these riots broke out.

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Bigly-Wrong 39 points ago

Fauci lied and people died.

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htowngetdown 5 points ago

Say it with me folks!

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GrandInquisitor 1 point ago

He seems to have been complicit. Constantly shutting it down.

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stjdalen 34 points ago

Surprised that Guardian would publish this as it shows Trump was right

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saveMySpeech [S] 8 points ago

I think the reason TheGuardian covered it might have to do with the Australian Guardian first publishing it because the hospitals from Aus all said they have no idea who this fake company is

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pmurTJdlanoD 7 points ago

Unrelated, but I accidentally found an article last night from CNN that called out their buddies, from just 2018!

Maybe they do this in a calculated manner occasionally to pretend they're unbiased, and also under the cover of chaos so it goes unnoticed.

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BonerDonor 6 points ago

Literal potbelly vampire goblins are hobbling around coming after us. These people come out from under rocks, they have green looking skin, and they run around screaming "we love Satan, we want to eat babies!"

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jman80 4 points ago

I have them on video....

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killerkram 3 points ago

infowars life protein bar intensifies

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_bryan 2 points ago

I'm just sitting here in the 74 degree air conditioning wishing antifa would show up.

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Southern_Belle 2 points ago

It's funny when people think you're crazy...

And then come back a few months later and admit you were right all along.

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DemigoD 11 points ago

This should be higher up. This is deeply concerning.

Also worth noting: the lancet itself (the 200 yo supposedly legitimate journal that published the study) released an "expression of concern" - which is a big deal, it's them officially stating the study was at the minimum, potentially deeply flawed.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31290-3/fulltext

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saveMySpeech [S] 8 points ago

Here's more:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

https://www.medicineuncensored.com/a-study-out-of-thin-air

https://zenodo.org/record/3873178

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-the-lancet-observational-study-surgisphere/

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/06/02/surgisphere-and-their-data

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/concerns-build-about-surgisphere-corporations-dataset-67605

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS0140-6736(20

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2020822


Also remember:

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/Hydroxychloroquine.pdf

For over 50 years, CDC said hydroxychloroquine is safe to take for any length of time, safe for children, safe for pregnant women when taken to prevent malaria. Then suddenly "experts" started claiming it can be fatal and dangerous and what not.

For anyone who tries to argue you about the side effects, show them this and read the "Adverse Events" on page 12 PDF:

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article-pdf/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/33312601/kwaa093.pdf

This concerns the entirety of HCQ use over more than 50 years of data, likely millions of uses and of longer-term use than the 5 days recommended for Covid-19 treatment.

Nevertheless, even if the combined HCQ+AZ produced a 10-fold higher incidence of fatal Torsades de Pointes and long QT-interval syndrome than either agent alone, and even if both events were 10-fold underreported in FAERS, thus hypothetically giving 1200 fatal events, that would still be very small compared to the millions of uses of these medications that the FAERS database represents.

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DemigoD 8 points ago

Hey I'm not trying to be a hater, but this is my 5 cent critique, take it or leave it because I'm just some anonymous guy on the internet. Feel free to ignore me if you disagree.

When you're looking to provide "more info", and then dump 11 links, despite the fact that all 11 are good links, you end up providing less information than if you had just posted 1 or 2. Once I see that many links, instead of clicking all of them, I click none. In my opinion, 1 or 2 highly focused links are a more effective way of communicating information in general, as opposed to 11 links that are probably all good.

Maybe it's just a bi-product of the modern era being ADHD by nature, but I can't be bothered to click all of those.

I see you re-posted the same comment from higher up in the thread where it got more visibility. I do believe you have the best intentions: to get the most information to the highest number of people. This is just my personal take- by providing too many links, you may actually be working in a counter-productive way, lessening the chance that each individual link is clicked.

Again, I'm just some random bloke on the internet, and I'm just saying what generally works for me /what makes me more or less likely to click. If this is working for you, feel free to tell me to fuck off, I won't be offended

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saveMySpeech [S] 4 points ago

If this is working for you, feel free to tell me to fuck off, I won't be offended

Nah, you might be right. This works for me as I like building a knowledge base with all the info I learn and I add them in. The reason for so many links in my thought was that some people prefer editorialized links whereas others prefer more official sources. So I don't know which one serves the best for whom.

However going forward, I will keep your advice in mind and try to provide 2 links only maybe - one which is official scientific community, other which is editorialized media one. Sorry about that.

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DemigoD 2 points ago

You're good bruh

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671-EVIL 27 points ago

the WHO announced it would now resume its global trial of hydroxychloroquine, after its data safety monitoring committee found there was no increased risk of death for Covid patients taking it.

So the MSM propaganda outlets who were warning us about the 'severe side effects' were full of shit. Surprise.

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Vests123 3 points ago

Surprise, surprise...POS Never Trumper Cavuto was even saying "people are going to die" if they take it.

So sick of these haters and disinformation liars.

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UpTrump 2 points ago

They're trying to get us to fund them again. Right after we defunded them, they said masks could be harmful

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HocusLocus 13 points ago

Maybe you need to lock yourself in the control room and Harrison Bergeron everyone.

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Tardigrade 3 points ago

You link a full-length movie with no other explanation or context in response to a message board comment? I like your style.

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HocusLocus 2 points ago

Can roll up into a little ball and survive In space. I like your style.
Tardigrade Force!

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neoPede 20 points ago (edited)

TBH the mainstream narrative itself for coronavirus is playing a lot like a sci-fi movie. HCQ had a part in destroying their narrative too.

Bill, get the Antidote. We're almost there!

It is I, Lord Donald. That antidote is going nowhere. You will never stop me muwahahaha.

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Tonightm01 18 points ago

It doesn't really matter at the end of the day. As many of the countries are at their heart just blindly following the advice from "leftist scientists". They plan to keep countries in lockdowns until they collapse.

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Keiichi81 18 points ago

So in other words the World Health Organization accepted the recommendations of a fraudulent company no one had ever really heard of which claimed to have data no one ever bothered to verify, and set official WHO treatment guidelines upon which numerous countries rely - including terminating their hydroxychloroquine study - based on totally fabricated results concocted by a a bunch of scammers.

Sounds like we did the right thing by no longer funding those chucklefucks.

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mightiest_m 15 points ago

What the fucking hell?
So it's basically a medical company who's entire purpose was to make up research to discredit hydroxychloroquine and Trump?

People died because of this. Who was funding these guys? (Let's be honest it's either Dems or China)

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whocaresguy420 8 points ago

Why not both?

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saveMySpeech [S] 5 points ago

either Dems or China

why repeat yourself?

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GrandInquisitor 2 points ago

Deep state

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upvotechamp 15 points ago

At a press conference on Wednesday, the WHO announced it would resume its global trial of hydroxychloroquine, after its data safety monitoring committee found there was no increased risk of death for Covid patients taking it.

I wonder how many people died because of this bullshit

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STEVE_HUFFMANS_BULL 13 points ago

> some journal published shit because of nebulous business kickback scheme reasons instead of actual science

> who could possibly do this horrific thing?

> The Lancet

> itallmakesensenow.jpg

All autistic pedes, I ask that you please join me for a moment of screeching incoherently into our computer microphones

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saveMySpeech [S] 3 points ago

Has The Lancet been involved in other shady shit?

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STEVE_HUFFMANS_BULL 4 points ago

You know the “vaccines cause autism” meme? The actual story there is:

> late 1990s

> absolute cunt Andrew Wakefield works for a company that’s researching an MMR vaccine

> he says, fuck it, why not whack some competition, writes a paper that says the other MMR guys’ vaccine is linked to higher autism rates

> The Lancet are the only morons willing to accept some kind of payoff for publishing his hot shit

On the plus side, Wakefield lost his medical license after all that got made public. On the down side, you have Karens who think that paper and random .wordpress.blogspot.com blogs are more authoritative than the entire rest of science

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Peony 0 points ago

You're a pharma shill

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Turtler 3 points ago

The better question is if there is any shady shit The Lancet HASN’T been involved in.

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GrandInquisitor 1 point ago

Some journal? This isn't SOME journal. It's one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world. Think about the implications of that.

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BoughtByBloomberg 13 points ago

And the entire fucking conspiracy comes to light.

We KNEW this drug is safe. I have given it to HUNDREDS of patients over the years. Literally NONE of them had anything more severe than mild nausea. Because we know EXACTLY to the milligram what is a toxic dose.

But hey WHO and the FUCKING WORLD just needs ONE study because ORANGE MAN BAD!

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saveMySpeech [S] 2 points ago

Also remember:

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/Hydroxychloroquine.pdf

For over 50 years, CDC said hydroxychloroquine is safe to take for any length of time, safe for children, safe for pregnant women when taken to prevent malaria. Then suddenly "experts" started claiming it can be fatal and dangerous and what not.

For anyone who tries to argue you about the side effects, show them this and read the "Adverse Events" on page 12 PDF:

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article-pdf/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/33312601/kwaa093.pdf

This concerns the entirety of HCQ use over more than 50 years of data, likely millions of uses and of longer-term use than the 5 days recommended for Covid-19 treatment.

Nevertheless, even if the combined HCQ+AZ produced a 10-fold higher incidence of fatal Torsades de Pointes and long QT-interval syndrome than either agent alone, and even if both events were 10-fold underreported in FAERS, thus hypothetically giving 1200 fatal events, that would still be very small compared to the millions of uses of these medications that the FAERS database represents.

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trescommaclub 12 points ago

All because orange man bad

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verycute 5 points ago

That's just a bonus. This is mainly about money from patented drugs.

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JamesComey 11 points ago

So the hyped studies were a total complete dumpster fire of bogus data sources from a plainly obvious source. Yet made it through peer review and were spread worldwide. Nice.

I hope that some people will make the connection that this is the same sort of garbage "science" being used to gin up global warming hysteria. Unfortunately I don't think we are that lucky.

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MeatloafFvck 11 points ago

HCQ works, my wife’s 81 year old uncle took it while suffering from Covid 19 and double pneumonia - he is also a regular smoker still

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4moreyears 10 points ago

Odds this company is connected to Gilead, the Gates Foundation, Fauci, or all three?

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IvIA6A 9 points ago

Adult content model 🤔. I must investigate

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canadianhere 5 points ago

Asking the right questions.

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AtariArtist 9 points ago

People are dying from the riots they caused.

We're real close to Civil War 2.0 if they don't get on top of this shit - like yesterday. I'm not talking announcements - because words aren't the only thing that's cheap.

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anon572759 3 points ago

How many people died cause of this piece of shit got HCQ taken off the table around the world?

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RollWave 8 points ago

Another employee listed as a marketing executive is an adult model and events hostess.

porn stars are allowed to get day jobs in marketing. nothing wrong with that.

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aintgotnotimefothis 7 points ago

I think that the implication is that any company worth listening to would not have to use a stripper for their marketing director.

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saveMySpeech [S] 2 points ago

and who joined the company 2 months ago. All employees joined 2 months ago...

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r_u_srs_srsly 4 points ago

I'd love to see one other reputable medical company with with a prominent executive that moonlights as a porn star.

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FragrantDude 8 points ago

Headlines proclaiming deadly effects will make it hard to recruit patients to key studies, [White] says. “The whole world thinks now that these drugs are poisonous.”

Looks like the leftists were successful, then. Now it's an uphill battle to explain that 50 years of safe usage overrules 3 shady papers that the company won't even give up the source data for. Fun...

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Kaboola 8 points ago

I'm so glad to read this. I ran into the lancet paper and had suspicions with it's lopsided control vs treatment numbers. I'm surrounded by leftists colleagues but feel reaffirmed about continuing HCQ in hospitals.

Funny thing is that I barely have any covid patients in my hospital now. Even suspected ones. Even with testing every admit.

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saveMySpeech [S] 4 points ago

Here's more:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

https://www.medicineuncensored.com/a-study-out-of-thin-air

https://zenodo.org/record/3873178

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-the-lancet-observational-study-surgisphere/

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/06/02/surgisphere-and-their-data

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/concerns-build-about-surgisphere-corporations-dataset-67605

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS0140-6736(20

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2020822


Also remember:

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/Hydroxychloroquine.pdf

For over 50 years, CDC said hydroxychloroquine is safe to take for any length of time, safe for children, safe for pregnant women when taken to prevent malaria. Then suddenly "experts" started claiming it can be fatal and dangerous and what not.

For anyone who tries to argue you about the side effects, show them this and read the "Adverse Events" on page 12 PDF:

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article-pdf/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/33312601/kwaa093.pdf

This concerns the entirety of HCQ use over more than 50 years of data, likely millions of uses and of longer-term use than the 5 days recommended for Covid-19 treatment.

Nevertheless, even if the combined HCQ+AZ produced a 10-fold higher incidence of fatal Torsades de Pointes and long QT-interval syndrome than either agent alone, and even if both events were 10-fold underreported in FAERS, thus hypothetically giving 1200 fatal events, that would still be very small compared to the millions of uses of these medications that the FAERS database represents.

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spezisthedevil 8 points ago

Arrest Dr. Fauci, Bill Gates, everyone who works for Surgisphere, and every other globalist scumbag NOW!

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Speakersheep 8 points ago

Hey I watched the Bourne movies yesterday and they take out a guy from "The Guardian" in one of the films. Even Hollywood doesn't have a problem taking out that trash

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such_is_life 8 points ago (edited)

And they called us conspiracy theorists! We were right all along!

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GrandInquisitor 1 point ago

Many conspiracy theories are wrong, but many are right.

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Tellguy 7 points ago

This is so fucked up. It's idea laundering. And it reminds me a lot of Fusion, the company that produced the fake Steele dossier.

Worst of all: Many scientists must habe realized something was off, based on papers published. They decided to not speak up in time. All that grant money won't be risked to save some human life.

Disgusting.

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GrandInquisitor 2 points ago

Yup, besides a handful of doctors, or similar, where were the rest that knew it was being lied about as to its dangers?

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South_Florida_Guy 6 points ago

Anything is possible when you're living in HONK HONK Clown World!

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Grady_Wilson 6 points ago

Of course the entire denial about the benefits of HCQ is pure trash.

The amazing part is how willing 'respected' medical journals were to publish this pure garbage solely because it fit the Leftist agenda.

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GrandInquisitor 2 points ago

I can forgive most people for just not knowing, but I can't forgive those who know and or have the duty to evaluate objectively. That's malpractice, that can cost lives.

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Grady_Wilson 1 point ago

Leftists and Globalists don't give two shits about people's lives.

All that matters is their end goal of taking over the world.

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2016TrumpMAGA 6 points ago (edited)

So these asshats relied on data from a single source, after screaming from the rooftops that we needed more studies to determine if HCQ was a viable treatment?

The studies were co-authored by the firm’s chief executive, Sapan Desai.

Desai has been named in three medical malpractice suits

In 2008, Desai launched a crowdfunding campaign on the website Indiegogo promoting a wearable “next generation human augmentation device that can help you achieve what you never thought was possible”. The device never came to fruition.

Peter Ellis, the chief data scientist of Nous Group, an international management consultancy that does data integration projects for government departments, expressed concern that Surgisphere database was “almost certainly a scam”.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to find an Indian committing fraud.

A search of publicly available material suggests several of Surgisphere’s employees have little or no data or scientific background. An employee listed as a science editor appears to be a science fiction author and fantasy artist. Another employee listed as a marketing executive is an adult model and events hostess.

While Surgisphere claims to run one of the largest and fastest hospital databases in the world, it has almost no online presence. Its Twitter handle has fewer than 170 followers, with no posts between October 2017 and March 2020.

What do you want to bet this firm was chosen by Indians at the WHO?

Fucking third worlders.

hydroxychloroquine study and its lead author, Mandeep Mehra

Another Indian? Shocking!

Until Monday, the “get in touch” link on Surgisphere’s homepage redirected to a WordPress template for a cryptocurrency website, raising questions about how hospitals could easily contact the company to join its database.

What kind of a moron do you have to be to do business with a company without even scouring its website? People at the WHO had to know this guy was full of shit, but chose to use him anyway.

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GrandInquisitor 1 point ago

oh they just used them to take out HCQ, nothing more.

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r_u_srs_srsly 6 points ago

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

Chicago-based Surgisphere has not publicly released the data underlying the studies, but today Desai told Science through a spokesperson that he was “arranging a nondisclosure agreement that will provide the authors of the NEJM paper with the data access requested by NEJM.”

(from the sciencemag copy: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling)

The authors of the paper didn't even get to see the raw data from this fake company

They're just now preparing an NDA for the authors to check

What the actual fuck is the definition of an author then?

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RedStateRedditor 6 points ago

That's some CIA shit.

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GrandInquisitor 2 points ago

Yup, was just about to say that above.

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Paul1149 5 points ago

The problem is that the public's attention span is so short, due to media manipulation. This won't be reported in the MSM, which has moved on to other lies to win the day for the Left.

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kekkk 5 points ago

Of course they did. It was so obvious how bullshit their opposition to it was.

These people really are sick.

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Neonentity 5 points ago

This is who manufactured the fake data used as cover to besmirch and ban an effective cure for COVID-19.  The mushroom public is still gaslighted against it even as it is adopted successfully and without question as the front-line medication nearly everywhere else in the world.

The mainstream media has incessantly propagandized against an effective cure to a pandemic while insisting we stay away from each other, abandon our livelihoods, close our schools, and hide our faces like lepers.

This is about controlling you and setting us up for the latent violence being revealed right now.  

The sooner everyone realizes that the CCP and the DNC are two faces of the same entity, the better.

We are at war.

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Flipbarryfromreddit 5 points ago

The fact they stopped this miracle drug has always seemed evil to me!!!!!

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BonerDonor 5 points ago

I was skeptical at first when everyone was saying that HQC is being suppressed. I'm not skeptical anymore.

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SpaFixr 5 points ago

More fake news debunked. I’m shocked.

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rbobjones69 5 points ago

Sounds like this year's Fusion GPS?

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saveMySpeech [S] 4 points ago

That's exactly what I thought.

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SoldierofKek 4 points ago

Awesome. When I get health advice...it's really important that it comes from a guy sporting a 70s porn stach.

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Maga_Factory 4 points ago

Trump needs to take funding WHO completely off the table in any capacity.

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saveMySpeech [S] 5 points ago

He announced it 4 days ago! It didn't get covered because of the riot bullshit

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Maga_Factory 2 points ago

I thought he was floating reduced funding

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predator2811 4 points ago

One look at Surgisphere's website (the fake company) is enough to realize that it's a phony entity.

Someone gave them a bogus report and paid them to publish it, and I'd very much like to know who.

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predator2811 3 points ago (edited)

Also, respect to The Guardian. They're leftist trash, but they at least had enough integrity to investigate and publish a story that runs against their narrative. I wonder what CNN would do in their shoes.

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GrandInquisitor 2 points ago

You gotta remember they also published the Snowden stuff, right?

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SoldanoSlo 4 points ago

FoLLoW tHe ScIeNcE

Lanshit

NewEnglandUrinalofMedicine

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tangerinemanbad 4 points ago

People need to hang for this. Publically.

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783hz 4 points ago

THIS is the smoking gun for any non-retarded person.

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Rubberbunnies 4 points ago

“In 2008, Desai launched a crowdfunding campaign on the website Indiegogo promoting a wearable “next generation human augmentation device that can help you achieve what you never thought was possible”. The device never came to fruition”

WHERE HAVE I FUCKING SEEN THIS BEFORE? Him and Gates both need to be tarred and feathered.

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BeachCruisin22 4 points ago

The politicization of medicine is the lowest of the low, they need to stop

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MuslimMAGA 4 points ago (edited)

I know about this drug from med school. It’s used to treat and as prophylaxis for malaria. It was never considered a controversial drug or one that had serious side effects. The only notable contraindication was having G6PD deficiency (common in the ME) in which case this drug could potentially cause hemolytic anemia. The media treating it as this super toxic drug raised huge flags for me. They were lying pure and simple. Every drug has side effects so it’s always a matter of assessing risk/benefit. And I think anyone can agree that the benefits of being a potential definitive cure for covid19 outweighs the risks.

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verycute 4 points ago

So the MSM didn't care about data, they had an agenda. This is just going to provide them with a scapegoat.

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TrumpLovesYou 3 points ago

Posted! Thanks!

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savage 3 points ago

This is unreal. Excellent find. I've also been seeing a lot of bullshit about hydroxy being too dangerous, but I'm pretty sure this is the same medication myself and thousands of other soldiers took each day while overseas (Army). I was on this stuff for a full year, 2011 to 2012. Somehow I have retained my faculties.

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GrandInquisitor 3 points ago

Right, and if it's too dangerous to take for covid, why isn't it too dangerous of a side effect profile for lupus or malaria?

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VLADIMIRPUTIN 3 points ago

Typical Democrat Move

Shades of the Piss Dossier

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GrandInquisitor 3 points ago

What's so egregious is that these studies being published in well respected journals established even in very smart people's minds, that HCQ wasn't effective.

The Lancet is one of the most respected medical journals in the world. How did this get published without proper editorial or peer review? This makes me deeply fearful that like the most "prestigious" universities or media outlets, when push REALLY comes to shove they will transgress their professional or academic responsibilities to propagandize the public. Please may it not be so.

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cellardoor 3 points ago

This reminds me of that guy at Sandyhook who did the ‘autopsies’

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Blindsummit 3 points ago

If even The Guardian is reporting this it must be be bad. Really bad.

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Killerko 3 points ago

I've seen today in work that on BBC NEWS they were talking about Hydroxychloroquine and in quite a positive way.. :o I totaly did not expect that to see on the BBC.

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JohnBarron 3 points ago

wuut.

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kikomonday 3 points ago

The number of HCQ doses given in the world for one of the most ubiquitous diseases in 3rd world nations is in the billions. No mention of serious side effects. Here's how the media lies but only in the strictest legal sense it's not a lie. I'm a physician (surgical not an cardio expert). HCQ I believe is assoc. w/increased QT intervals, very minor. Is this an "arrhythmia" in the very strictest sense? Yes, but every single person's EKG over age 60 has this. Its nothing, its not even mentioned after I've spoken to hundreds of cardiologists pre op. And the media will report it as it has been, and thousands of elderly will refuse to take HCQ. The media will not only kill, they will kill the elderly, my father, your grandpa and grandma. Next to children the most innocent and gentle people in this country. The media is so evil, so heartless, and worst part is they will get away with it.

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OrganicVandal 3 points ago

I am so tired of faggot energy.

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hillaryisgoingdown 3 points ago

She blinded me with "science" ... and those big titties

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Block_Helen 3 points ago

Makes you think about what other total garbage these Vaunted Journals are peddling.

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MAGA_MEME 3 points ago

Go search any database related sub reddit or SO for surgisphere. You won't find anything. It's a fake database.

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Lazarus327 3 points ago

I just sent this to my wife, who is a lefty, though not crazy. She just likes the welfare programs for the most part.

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saveMySpeech [S] 2 points ago

Here's more you can send:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

https://www.medicineuncensored.com/a-study-out-of-thin-air

https://zenodo.org/record/3873178

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-the-lancet-observational-study-surgisphere/

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/06/02/surgisphere-and-their-data

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/concerns-build-about-surgisphere-corporations-dataset-67605

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS0140-6736(20

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2020822


Also remember:

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/Hydroxychloroquine.pdf

For over 50 years, CDC said hydroxychloroquine is safe to take for any length of time, safe for children, safe for pregnant women when taken to prevent malaria. Then suddenly "experts" started claiming it can be fatal and dangerous and what not.

For anyone who tries to argue you about the side effects, show them this and read the "Adverse Events" on page 12 PDF:

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article-pdf/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/33312601/kwaa093.pdf

This concerns the entirety of HCQ use over more than 50 years of data, likely millions of uses and of longer-term use than the 5 days recommended for Covid-19 treatment.

Nevertheless, even if the combined HCQ+AZ produced a 10-fold higher incidence of fatal Torsades de Pointes and long QT-interval syndrome than either agent alone, and even if both events were 10-fold underreported in FAERS, thus hypothetically giving 1200 fatal events, that would still be very small compared to the millions of uses of these medications that the FAERS database represents.

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pizzzzaaaa 3 points ago

Why am I not fucking surprised. The left is terrorists.

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CannonballJunior 3 points ago

Holy guacamole Batman!

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GrandInquisitor 1 point ago

Why are you an anti-science bigot?

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DaoDeDickinson 3 points ago

Wow, this Desai character better get the death penalty if this is true.

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4218 3 points ago

FUCK WHO? FUCK WHO

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RocketSurgeon22 2 points ago

Learn how WHO classifies Pedos. Also learn how they supported Germany in letting foster kids live with pedos.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/germany-s-secret-paedophilia-experiment-1.2897942?mode=amp

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driveshack 2 points ago

adult content model? You mean a stripper whore

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ObongoForPrison2020 2 points ago

Sadly, we will never know what would have happened with the Chinese Virus if we had just taken common sense measures like washing our hands a few extra times a day. Instead, we went full Commie and destroyed everything.

"The shutdowns are working!!"

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maxkenn 1 point ago

Some countries did just that, and it worked out fine for them.

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minotaurbeach 2 points ago

Programmer Dude and his pornstar girlfriend, not scientists and- Not Doctors, but made a google for medicine, based on what symptoms it is most likely prescribed for- and convinced real doctors that it was real!

There are only two employees, and they make up additional names

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/surgisphere.572452/

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FAQ-REDDIT 2 points ago

Ok that is where our ( The USA ) $400,000,000 tax dollars to the WHO was spent.

WHO is fucking retarded.

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MadRussian 2 points ago

Jesus, it's like Mass Effect Andromeda hiring practices applied to healthcare analytics. Wonder if the "adult content model"'s main qualification was "I HATE MEN".

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GrandInquisitor 2 points ago

The lead investigator (name redacted for privacy purposes) was a trans black disabled furry, who also did NOT have compromising footage from Epstein's island. University of Barbados Medical School, 2019.

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MadRussian 2 points ago

Ohho, I bet it also enjoyed deer scritches.

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Chopblock 2 points ago

Asking for a sticky is like asking for an ‘I love you’. If it doesn’t come naturally it’s not worth it.

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saveMySpeech [S] 2 points ago

Just wanted eyes pede.

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Chopblock 2 points ago

I love you... welcome to Cosco

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SomethingNondescript 2 points ago

Anyone got more info on that "Marketing Executive"? You know...for science.

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_bryan 2 points ago

Insane.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 2 points ago

A search of publicly available material suggests several of Surgisphere’s employees have little or no data or scientific background. An employee listed as a science editor appears to be a science fiction author and fantasy artist. Another employee listed as a marketing executive is an adult model and events hostess. The company’s LinkedIn page has fewer than 100 followers and last week listed just six employees. This was changed to three employees as of Wednesday.

40million lost their jobs based on information gathered by six people, none of whom are scientists, researchers, statisticians, or doctors of any kind.

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BaconIsNotHaram 2 points ago

Clown world honk honk!!

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TenScoops 2 points ago

honk honk 🤡

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66_Chevelle_SS 2 points ago

Looked up Bunty soap. It's a fake soap company.

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Ralphusthegreatus 2 points ago

The damage is already done. Social Media and the MSM have already told the public the drug is horrible and there is no changing that. There is a large amount of people who will live another 50 plus years and will go to their grave believe hydroxychloroquine is an ineffective drug that kills people.

The top story on google right now on hydroxychloroquine is titled "Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t prevent coronavirus infection, study with more than 800 people finds". This is propaganda. Nobody ever said it prevented the virus. But now in most people's mind that means it doesn't work. This along with the countless other deceiving headlines is how people get their news. It's right out of the Nazi playbook.

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GrandInquisitor 2 points ago

i talked to a nurse online i know, and asked him about Remdesivir versus HCQ. He said HCQ doesn't work, and doctors wouldn't use it nor recommend it. I sent him that poll about all these doctors worldwide using it, and the studies about its promise. He hasn't responded. It makes me think a lot of medical professionals don't know either.

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Skywise 2 points ago

slashdot is having a cow right now pulling a Dan Rather.

Yes yes - the study was faked - but what it said was TROO! Trump was wrong!

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kjj9 2 points ago

There were hundreds of stories about this on /r/pol a month ago. As far as I can tell, zero covering the retraction

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GrandInquisitor 1 point ago

It's trump medicine. Imbibing it or defending it in the slightest will cause one to come down with a bad case of fascism.

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linereddit 2 points ago

The President Trump love, the President Trump protec!

My President, you always lead, but you are NEVER alone!

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Grond999 2 points ago

What a medical clown show. A disgrace on so may levels.

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Kimball_Kinnison 2 points ago

So who is the science fiction writer?

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ToxicMasculine 1 point ago

Archive link in case compromised: https://archive.fo/5miYt

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masculinist 1 point ago

First author is a Harvard prof, we should call for his ouster

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derekjackski 1 point ago

why did the west have to import diversity, which has destroyed social cohesion? Everything the media does, as in pushing any narrative to discredit Trump, Brexit, border control, is in pursuit of advancing diversity. It needs to end. But "conservatives" cave on everything. Pretty soon, Republicans for Reparations will be a thing.

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HiGloss 1 point ago

I'm keeping my eye on this to see if anything more comes out but on this surface this looks ridiculous. It's like basing national policy on a twitter post of an unknown user

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Supersaiyanbroly737 0 points ago

Is the stripper hot?

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OrangeElvis 1 point ago

I am hugely disappointed there are no links to her photos. Seriously, wth am I paying for here?!?