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posted ago by LaymanLeathers (edited)

I just dont get it. No matter what I do Trump is evil to him. I'm listening to him and hes talking about how Twitter got mad at trump for talking about joe Scarboroughs murder situation. Hes saying "trump is saying it with no facts. Hes the biggest liar around. Hes drafting a bill to go after the social media companies that are just silencing him like they're supposed too. I just want the truth. Trump should be lucky I'm not suicidal"

Pedes it kills me to see my family go through this. I'd appreciate it if anyone reading this as any similar situations they might want to mention because man, I just dont understand how my own dad can have so much hate in his heart and still have the nuts to say he cares more about the consitution than anyone else. I'd do anything to shake my family awake if I could.

I just dont know if they can be saved. I show them the facts, the statistics. They just go right back to whatever cnn tells them. It's so sad. The level of insanity is just tough to think about sometimes. I am fine pedes dont worry about me. I'm short on cash and I need a cavity filled sometime soon but my business will be running soon. Mentally I am strong, soon I will be financially not close to broke. All my money went to starting my business so yeah, low funds got me a bit stressed. I guess I just want to know if there's any other pedes out there in a situation like mine. Maybe we can debate who's got the craziest families. I try not to bring family into this but it just sucks to hear my own dad falling over himself to shit on the president for literally anything and everything under the sun without having a single shred of self awareness. My dad cares more about making sure everyone understands he doesnt like trump than he cares about his own mental health or sanity. The others in my family arent any better. They genuinely believe if trump wins again america is finished while they in turn root for the team, and vote for the very people destroying america. I just dont know why I can't get them to see it.

Edit: they've been this way for a while. I'm 21 now and I always grew up hearing how it was "a womens right to choose" so I took my mans right to choose and chose to not sleep wit no how ass bitches. My dad always walked around saying "I'm a democrat. My dad was a Democrat, his dad was a democrat, weve always been democrats" it's sad my own dad isnt smart enough to see the sheer stupidity in just the very words he says. Vote D because its who you have to vote for no matter what and that's how itll always be to them. Yet I'm the evil one for saying they are following nothing but dumb bullshit. Its truly wild

I just dont get it. No matter what I do Trump is evil to him. I'm listening to him and hes talking about how Twitter got mad at trump for talking about joe Scarboroughs murder situation. Hes saying "trump is saying it with no facts. Hes the biggest liar around. Hes drafting a bill to go after the social media companies that are just silencing him like they're supposed too. I just want the truth. Trump should be lucky I'm not suicidal" Pedes it kills me to see my family go through this. I'd appreciate it if anyone reading this as any similar situations they might want to mention because man, I just dont understand how my own dad can have so much hate in his heart and still have the nuts to say he cares more about the consitution than anyone else. I'd do anything to shake my family awake if I could. I just dont know if they can be saved. I show them the facts, the statistics. They just go right back to whatever cnn tells them. It's so sad. The level of insanity is just tough to think about sometimes. I am fine pedes dont worry about me. I'm short on cash and I need a cavity filled sometime soon but my business will be running soon. Mentally I am strong, soon I will be financially not close to broke. All my money went to starting my business so yeah, low funds got me a bit stressed. I guess I just want to know if there's any other pedes out there in a situation like mine. Maybe we can debate who's got the craziest families. I try not to bring family into this but it just sucks to hear my own dad falling over himself to shit on the president for literally anything and everything under the sun without having a single shred of self awareness. My dad cares more about making sure everyone understands he doesnt like trump than he cares about his own mental health or sanity. The others in my family arent any better. They genuinely believe if trump wins again america is finished while they in turn root for the team, and vote for the very people destroying america. I just dont know why I can't get them to see it. Edit: they've been this way for a while. I'm 21 now and I always grew up hearing how it was "a womens right to choose" so I took my mans right to choose and chose to not sleep wit no how ass bitches. My dad always walked around saying "I'm a democrat. My dad was a Democrat, his dad was a democrat, weve always been democrats" it's sad my own dad isnt smart enough to see the sheer stupidity in just the very words he says. Vote D because its who you have to vote for no matter what and that's how itll always be to them. Yet I'm the evil one for saying they are following nothing but dumb bullshit. Its truly wild
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LaymanLeathers [S] 2 points ago

Yup. I've heard em talk about how "trump has even convinced a lot of the police to be on his side"

They genuinely believe trump is trying to take over the world when it's really them.

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LaymanLeathers [S] 2 points ago

It's scary too tbh. Just because I'm watching them vote for exactly what they are scared of what they think trump is doing.

I openly tell them sometimes that I haven't missed a single trump tweet in years now I'm pretty sure and what they say about trump isnt true at all. They just stare at me like I'm some kind of crazy person. I dont care lol. It ain't about me. I was already saved.

I'm just trying to get them to look up a trump rally and watch it all the way through, just once. Go check out the mans twitter just once. Nope, they wont do it. No matter what. Sad for my family. They have good intentions but terrible ideas sadly. Just terrible ideas.

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jughaid 6 points ago

He's too far gone at this point, I'm afraid. You could ask him to do you one favor -- all he has to do is watch Tucker Carlson for one week. Tucker is not always the biggest Trump supporter and he comes off as a very congenial person, so hopefully it won't be too off-putting for him. Might open his mind a bit without him knowing it.

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LaymanLeathers [S] 2 points ago

Sadly I dont think that's happening. My dad literally thinks trump brainwashed me. Anything I show him he immediately assumes are alt right white supremacist retard morons only a deranged conspiracy theorist would listen to.

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jughaid 3 points ago

Well, advise you to find other topics to talk about when you are together.

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LaymanLeathers [S] 3 points ago

Pede, if only I could describe to you just how shallow some peoples personalities can be sometimes.

They are great people. I know they have really big hearts deep in there. It's just wild how even their regular conversations are as deluded as they are.

It's more with my dad than the others in my family. They are all equally insane but my dad in particular as to make it a point to be extra so he doesnt appear weak. Thus exposing how he's actually one of the weaker of them all. I love them, although I'm not entirely convinced they love me no matter how much they try to make it seem that way.

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neverreddit 3 points ago

I’m right there with you. Had to cut off contact with my insane siblings when corona started as they were literally hoping it would be as bad as possible (I.e. tons of people would die) just to make POTUS look bad. I’ll attempt to reconnect after the election but it’s just too tense right now.

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neverreddit 3 points ago

The only thing that can have ANY power over someone like this is if someone they respect says Trump isn’t the devil. Who does your dad respect? Look up to? Have any of them supported Trump? Or not even supported but even said isn’t the worst thing to happen to our country?

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LaymanLeathers [S] 2 points ago

Oh pede this is going to sound embarrassing but the only thing I can remember is those times where he was telling me about how Michael Moore really makes "some of my favorite movies"

"He's got really good movies"

I genuinely dont know pede. He thinks obama is like god basically but Obama hasn't gave him shit so I don't know how he could look up to a nobody like obama. I actually dont know if he's got any good role models. That could he apart of the problem.

I cant really talk to my family about role models or anything like that. They dont have those kinds of conversations. It would be uncomfortable to them and they would rather argue that I'm harassing them than have a conversation about god, trump, or anything even remotely controversial to anyone that isnt just straight up vanilla In their conversation skills.

Michael moore pede... 😂

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Jcholl9 5 points ago

It sounds like your Dad just wants to believe that everything is okay with the world and to do that he needs to see Trump as the bad guy.

Not ready to see the truth yet... By accepting the truth his whole world will come crashing down.

Love him and protect him

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LaymanLeathers [S] 3 points ago

Aye pede. Love and protect. It's just alarming to me that I'm loving and protecting the people that probably agree with the same policies as the Minneapolis protesters that absolutely do not love or want to protect me 😂

I do hope my dad will take to his grave the knowledge that the only trump supporter he truely knew was his one and only son and I wasn't anything like cnn keeps telling him to think we are like.

I genuinely dont think they would like me at all if they knew I was against abortion.

Haha I wasnt against abortion when I first found this sub back a few years ago. The people here still took me in and educated me. We got some fine folks here. It would be nice if I could get my parents awake enough for me to send them our baller memes without them thinking I've mentally snapped from their perspective

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milpede0306 2 points ago

this sounds like my dad also.

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Jcholl9 2 points ago

My Mom is slowly accepting the truth but still finds somethings hard to accept...

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DicksOutForHarambe 4 points ago

This is why durham and Barr need to bring charges, cnn can't hide from that...

Sorry man, my mom same way. When I ask her to back up russia or flynn situation she freaks out and basically hangs up the phone.

When I was a kid she would say shit like all Republicans are racist.

My parents are divorced. She is late 60s about 10 years ago she had a nice boy friend... after a couple years she broke it off saying he was to conservative. She chose a life of loneliness over a companion with different views on politics. Its sick and I just try to maintain a loving relationship with her and keep her from programming my kids with that crap.

There are frens out there bro. You not alone.

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LaymanLeathers [S] 4 points ago

Its wild stuff. My dad is awful close to 60 and it's crazy to see him tell me what I have to do to be successful and if I don't, life is a total failure. Yet when I look at what he's accomplished over his life, it isnt anything I want to be apart of.

I guess each person is an individual. It sucks that I cant help my family to get away from the insanity but at least I was fortunate enough to save mine. Against all odds.

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StaceCadet 4 points ago

My parents always thought Trump was kind of a rich sleaze ball, well before he ran. They don’t care much for him now, to say the least. Same parents that used to tell me, in no uncertain terms, that the government had no qualms about killing people. Same parents that used to teach me to look for the lies in the media. They now watch cnn. But, I know they’re Patriots, and they’ll demand justice when the media can’t control the narrative anymore. It’s just a matter of time.

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LaymanLeathers [S] 3 points ago

My parents watched every episode of the apprentice. Nowadays theyll say whatever the news tells em. I firmly believe they blurred their lines from fiction and reality. Something wild like that

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leonine6 3 points ago

It does hurt to be in this position with family. Most of mine won't even bring up politics . Originally they thought they could 'educate' me with their CNN talking points but I always had actual facts from sources they couldn't dispute. They have enough logic to know I am right but their 'feelings' are so much more important. I love them because they are family but I have no respect for them. I hope you have some friends you can vent to who feel the same way as you. That can keep you sane!!

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RatsCatsBats 3 points ago

TDS is not something you can just flip off. It’s a slow brain rewiring process to be redpilled. Since political talk can be heated try using humor as a way to point stuff out. Don’t let the Left add a schism in your family unit. It’s always sad seeing family members fight over politics, that’s just giving the enemy what’s they want

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LaymanLeathers [S] 3 points ago

It just sucks pede. I think I was so lucky to manage to unbrainwash. I had enough time alone to really smoke some blunts and ponder what I was dealing with when I first started the red pill process. The first stone that was turned so to speak. I just dont think the same perfect storm of circumstances are going to come together for them. I see many others waking up. I was just hoping my family would be one of them. I was hoping I'd be able to point out some facts and their whole house of cards would fall and they'd wake up like I did.

Because I'm in a particularly individual situation unique to my family and my family is FUCKING LOONEY TOONS sometimes I have to have conversations with them about totally unrelated topics and then I have to slide in the nuance. My family really mentally unwell I believe. On the surface it doesnt look like it but I personally believe it. So the range of conversations we can have is limited sadly. So when I talk to my dad I talk to him about the progress I'm making on my business and I'll use that as an opportunity to talk about trumps lower taxes and stuff. I just dont think itll be enough though. They just bought into the narrative and cannot comprehend a world were someone would logically vote for trump

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Trythisagain 3 points ago

Just prove everything with the facts, physical facts from reports and videos. Some people don’t like it When they are wrong or “don’t want to admit they’re wrong”, just give the facts that’s about all you can do. Or, ask him for the proof that shows the President is bad, not going too be easy.

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LaymanLeathers [S] 2 points ago

Alas pede, they dont care about the facts that dont support their narrative. I've tried that thanks for asking though.

"Grab her by the pussy" is enough for them to never look back on how big of a nazi trump MUST be. It doesnt matter what facts I use 😔

They are pro gun Democrats that "just want common sense gun control" and would vote for that even if it meant to total gun ban. They are stuck in 2007 no matter what I do

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nuhbin 3 points ago

some people need authority, so they fetishize those in power

they create a belief system that allows them to believe that those in power are better and wiser than themselves

when someone comes and shows them that their belief system is based on lies they have to choose a new path:

1.) dig in their heels and refuse to ever believe that they might have been wrong, vilifying the person who shattered their illusion

2.)admit that their belief system is bullshit and start learning, again, how the world works

anyone who is angry about trump is likely too set in their ways to take path 2, so orange man bad forever

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LaymanLeathers [S] 2 points ago

My dad falls into #1

I'll tell him how he's wrong and he literally has an inability to "lose" an argument.

It's gotten to the point where I dont even try to red pill him anymore because it just seems to drive him farther into insanity. He uses it against me even if whatever he's saying makes less than zero sense.

I think at some point, as much as I love my dad I'll just have to set him free to fall into the pit of hell itself. I dont think I can save him. Frankly I feel uncomfortably fortunate that I was saved. Had to have been by God the only way I can seem to work it out. I just wonder why I was saved but not my family.

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LaymanLeathers [S] 1 point ago

Sucks cutting off friends but I've learned that most people dont have much value anyway if you even have to consider cutting them out. At least it opens the opportunity for better friends coming up. I personally dont have much time for many friends nowadays since I've started building my business which it seems to me most of my old friends really weren't interested in so it wouldnt make sense to drag them along. I'm mostly busy trying to fix too many problems to be able to keep much contact with people. I spend a lot of time on this sub, on my business and sleeping. Friends are cool but eh, I kinda like making wallets and stuff.

Honestly I think I'll keep it that way until my business is up and around so I'm not really concerned with maintaining any relationships outside of business relationships

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YugeBallsBelieveMe 2 points ago

Same with my dad, we just don’t talk politics, they can’t handle it

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LaymanLeathers [S] 1 point ago

Same pede. They just cannot handle the speed of the centipede

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Horst_Nordfink 2 points ago

If I had a family this far gone I would take a pair of cable cutters and literally cut the cord on their cable connection for their TV and slap the cable down on the table in front of all of them. I would explain that the cable networks are not their news, not their friends, and do not have their best interests at heart.

Four years ago this might have been an extreme response, but the last term has revealed the cable networking for what it really is. It is vile poison. Get your family away from cable networking ASAP. Heck, just pull out some board games if you have to and demand that your family spend the time on family connection.

I'm not married, and have no kids, but I swear if I ever did the one thing we would never have under my roof is a cable connection.

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LaymanLeathers [S] 1 point ago

They watch way too much tv.

It's just the nature of it. Hours of shit content. Like bruh, if you're gonna binge hours of content at least make it packed full of all kinds of different content. My parents? No. Theyll take big bang theory and then complain when it's over. It's just the same show, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

My family the type of people that would report anne Frank to the Gestapo complaining that they think anne frank is reporting people to the Gestapo cutting the cord to the tv is just asking for trouble. I honestly cant spend any time with them because they're SOOOOOO BORING. I guess the only reason I'm still around is because maybe, just maybe I'll have a random conversation and I'll be able to drop a red pill and maybe that'll be the one. Hasn't happened yet though