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Lord_Karius 470 points ago +472 / -2 (edited)

Black people when white business owners never come back to Minneapolis: "racist white flight"

Edit: Also Minnesota has a "duty to retreat" law for business owners. Looters, come on down!!

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Grief 271 points ago +271 / -0

What the hell is duty to retreat?! Stand your ground!

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Lord_Karius 279 points ago +280 / -1

That's why the business owner got arrested. Cause in Minnesota you're not allowed to stand your ground and he did.

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thelastlast 259 points ago +259 / -0

is that or is that not completely against the constitution and ANTITHETICAL TO SURVIVAL OF THE SPECIES

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SadPangolin 291 points ago +293 / -2

They don't want the white species to survive.

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SimplePede 136 points ago +136 / -0

Give that man a cookie. He knows the score

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Dr_Falsey 100 points ago +100 / -0

It’s almost like he’s agreed the UN agenda about replacement migration or something. I’m sure it’s merely a conspiracy theory though. The UN was just playing yo.

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 102 points ago +103 / -1

Ever since Rhodesia they don't even try to hide it anymore

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bill_in_texas 47 points ago +47 / -0

Username checks out.

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 32 points ago +33 / -1

This reminds me, I need to order some Make Zimbabwe Rhodesia Again gear.

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NvJohansson 30 points ago +30 / -0 (edited)

I hear ya, l had an uncle who fought with the Rhodesian Light Infantry as an independent contractor. Toughest man i've ever met. Never spoke about it until when he knew he was in his final weeks. True horror stories.

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 28 points ago +28 / -0

That's so based. The old rhodesians were some of the fiercest militiamen in history. They sometimes had 30:1 kill ratios against communist invaders.

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Butthurt 20 points ago +20 / -0

Look up five Romeo Romeo on YouTube. Rhodesian war vet tells stories and updates regularly

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Rodrigo 11 points ago +11 / -0 (edited)

Can you say "Farm Murders?"

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Bestboy143 10 points ago +10 / -0

But it's not like African mobs are burning Nigerian immigrants alive in the city streets in broad daylight and torturing white farmers to death....

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Keiichi81 35 points ago +35 / -0

I suspect this sort of shit is to deliberately drive out stable business owners. When the stable businesses go, the neighborhood quickly turns to shit. Pretty soon you get "white flight" and the area becomes a ghetto. When the area becomes a ghetto, Democrats essentially have it on lock. None of those idiots rioting and looting are ever going to vote against gibmedats, so they'll be good little slaves to 'masa and vote for whoever has that D next to their name until the end of time, never really stopping to think why it is that their situation never really improves.

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KiltedTailor 15 points ago +15 / -0

Your correct, and this writer has lived thru a 'flock ' of black riots going back to the 1960's. It always the same pattern, and its always blacks, never whites, Asians, or Little Green Men from Alpha Centauri {Quick who knows the Quote?!]

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BarbaraManatee 4 points ago +4 / -0

Shot in the dark - Hitchhiker?

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CA-Patriot 2 points ago +3 / -1

Star Trek. Kirk said it while being interrogated by the Air Force. (I had no idea, but I Duck Duck Go'd it)

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671-EVIL 7 points ago +13 / -6

This is why I support planned parenthood. They will solve the problem.

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stormdraintrooper 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol. agreed.

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Where_my_country_go 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's (Gary) simply (Baltimore) not (Detroit) true (Chicago)

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LugNuts 16 points ago +18 / -2

More of a strain or a breed.

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Formerlurker92 19 points ago +19 / -0

Strain, breed, people. Whatever you call it they want the whites gone or so diminished they can never stand up again

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CowForCow 13 points ago +13 / -0

Isn’t it strange that the most successful animal on the planet earth only has one species?

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LugNuts 5 points ago +6 / -1

huh? All animals have only one species.

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trapwing 7 points ago +7 / -0

Black "folx" don't want their species to survive either with their high abortion rate.

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MAGAmanXXL 6 points ago +7 / -1

Exactly. And these people wonder why cops keep killing them LMAO

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hit_backspace 3 points ago +3 / -0

Bring in the militia.

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Afrikaner_Vrystaat 82 points ago +82 / -0

This is what the left want for us. Unable to defend ourselves and idly standing by as antifa thugs burn our cities and loot our businesses

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SemperFree 71 points ago +71 / -0

Tell cops to stand down, don't send in the National Guard, then arrest people for defending their property?

We have a god given right to defend ourselves. Laws passed by Minnesota Karens be damned.

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bill_in_texas 54 points ago +54 / -0

A jury might eventually let him go, but not before the city bankrupts his ass. So fucked up.

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thelastlast 26 points ago +27 / -1

boog? anyone? not yet?

come on the governors openly want us to.

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ProdigalPlaneswalker 31 points ago +31 / -0

This is where we are right now as a society:

  • Loot Target: OK.

  • Loot Governor's Mansion: Not OK

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MichelleObamasBulge 18 points ago +18 / -0

If you’re gonna boog you gotta be sure to pick your target correctly. Target the cause. Not the symptom. Don’t just lash out against exactly who you’re being pressured to lash out against. The other side not understanding this is exactly why we’re in this mess

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Johnfox13 14 points ago +14 / -0

Pedes when it exists, post the link for gofundme for John Rieple- I’ll spot $20 for this American patriot’s legal fees. Maybe Minnesota can have it go to their Supreme Court

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ohpleaseuhhelpame 13 points ago +13 / -0

I'm feeling really bad for that man..defending his business and livelihood, while that BLM gang is in town destroying and burning down businesses. Fuck those people. The fact that all businesses were closed due to Covid..loosing money daily..employees losing jobs and those BLM fucks are burning down buildings,so now all those employees have no job to go back to either and those businesses have to rebuild. If I were them I would say Fuck you Minneapolis and dont go back and build. Sorry for the rant..

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footinmouth 8 points ago +8 / -0

Don't worry, they will keep reselecting the jury until they get the people they want.

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AlohaChris 2 points ago +2 / -0

Voir dire, and all.

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bubadmt 6 points ago +6 / -0

Hopefully he has some sort of self-defense insurance to his name that he pays monthly dues for. The policy I have allows for unlimited criminal and unlimited civil cost payments covered, bail bond given up front, etc. So that would definitely make it a lot easier on him. The damage to his business might be another story though.

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CA-Patriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

recommendation on insurance?

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IncredibleMrE1 41 points ago +41 / -0

You are under the mistaken impression that they don't want to exterminate whites.

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AdoviFreon 18 points ago +19 / -1

It's the Minnesotan whites who've caused all of this. They're the worst leftist virtue signalers ever.

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agile_a 21 points ago +21 / -0

especially if you live in a Democrat area just leave it. If it's a purple area stay but if it's a Democrat area you're not going to be welcome there..

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PurestEvil 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's pure madness. It is anti-human, it's anti-LIFE. Even animals protect what they hold dear, but we are supposed to not self-defend? I repeat, pure madness.

But that is how socialism looks like - when total insanity runs rampart in a society.

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UsurpTheNarrative 2 points ago +2 / -0

Canada is a good example. It makes the people into the biggest Cucks imaginable.

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bubadmt 47 points ago +49 / -2

It'll never get prosecuted. Given the unrest and imminent threat to his person for great bodily injury if he were to step outside to retreat, it's completely reasonable to have opened fire when he did. No reasonable prosecutor would try to go forward with these charges because they know it holds no weight.

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SordidPontification 55 points ago +55 / -0

I'm not sure Minnesota has any reasonable prosecutors left.

I hope I'm wrong.

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TANSTAFL 10 points ago +10 / -0

Have u met our AG

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SordidPontification 6 points ago +6 / -0

Oshit, he's the Antifa guy?

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TANSTAFL 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not sure his membership card is current but close enough

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grad16uc 9 points ago +9 / -0

How is any reasonable person supposed to think that looters draw the line at stealing? Like who the hell would take that chance with a bunch of thugs.

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bill_in_texas 16 points ago +16 / -0

Let's hope you are right.

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bubadmt 10 points ago +13 / -3

I feel like they arrested him only as an attempt (a poor one, at that) to cool down tensions. They want to be able to point to something concrete to be able to show that they are taking action. Otherwise it may enrage the protestors more to see more deaths and a lack of action by police. The action is just in all the wrong places, but it'll correct itself soon after. I'm confident this will be dropped. 97ish percent of self-defense cases in the US never go to court because the standard of proving it is very high, but in this case, it's pretty clear cut enough to the point that no one can point and say that it would have been safer for the owner to let looters in and for him to step outside into the mayhem.

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Cyer6 20 points ago +20 / -0

No, it's my bet that because he's a "privileged" white guy who owns a business, they'll go after him to quell the outrage mob who will be following the case closely.

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Gwot0412 12 points ago +12 / -0

In the video in the article where officers are performing CPR on the criminal looter, there is someone yelling "we ain't even armed."

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SwampDrainerLocal911 18 points ago +19 / -1

So no qualms over the money an individual has to spend on bonds, initial consultation with an attorney, months of hell? Please tell me they were stomping a puppy or something.

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PotentialWizard 44 points ago +44 / -0

You can spend your life building a business but have to stand back and let some rioters burn it to the ground, because racism and orange man bad. Glad I don't live in Minnesota, the Soy State.

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Cyer6 18 points ago +18 / -0

So glad to be a Texan but I do feel for the patriotic MAGA pedes in these states. They can't fight back with the courts and the politics there. Sadly, I don't know if they'll ever come together and really make a strong stand. People will put up with anything if they have a warm home to go back to and a place to buy groceries.

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Building7 10 points ago +10 / -0

Enjoy it while you can, all the "based immigrants" Texas is importing are voting 75-80% for democrats and those new Texans see your lifetime of hard work as something they can get an elected official to vote away from you. Texas with current demographic shift is going to be blue in 2030 and solid blue by 2036.

You don't want to be demographically replaced? That means you are a racist.

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Cyer6 5 points ago +5 / -0

If that happens, it'll have occurred throughout the country. Even places like Wyoming where I grew up will be going blue. Or we may see a complete shift of thinking that lasts for a decade or two. Who knows, but one can hope.

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Building7 2 points ago +2 / -0

"When it happens".

There are no areas I am aware of in the US or abroad where non-europeans in indigenous European regions voted for a traditional conservative over an anti-European liberal. Imagine if you were able to immigrate to China and vote in their elections, would you support a party that defended Chinese culture or would you vote for whoever wanted to tear down Chinese culture and transfer the chinese wealth to your family. You will get a group of outliers who respect conservatism, but the more "diverse" an area gets the less likely you will get a candidate who supports conservatism.

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AdoviFreon 4 points ago +4 / -0

The Soy State that wishes it was New York.

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KekistanPM 42 points ago +42 / -0

SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.

If I were them I'd lawyer up and go after them with guns blazing, figuratively speaking.

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ChokingOnARedpill 16 points ago +16 / -0

At first I thought you were suggestioning we go get a lawyer, arm him, then head out to join the fight.

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45fan 11 points ago +11 / -0

Sounds like an awesome lawyer!

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hit_backspace 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sounds like Steven Crowder's half asian lawyer Bill Richmond

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Cheesemaker 30 points ago +30 / -0

To be fair, if you're in a state with stand your ground law you'll still get arrested. Unlike in most criminal cases, the burden of proof is on the defendant to prove they were standing their ground. Of course, most prosecutors will/should drop the case and it should never go to court if it's clear you were defending yourself. However, you'll still be arrested as its not the police officers discretion to make that judgment.

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Lord_Karius 14 points ago +14 / -0

Ah. Good point.

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Cyer6 9 points ago +9 / -0

It is a common practice within law enforcement to error on the side of making an arrest. The case will be forwarded to the DA who then has full discretion to proceed with prosecution or drop the case "in the interest of justice." It happens all of the time but the point is, the cops are able to remove themselves and their department from any public scrutiny and allegations that they "failed to act" or carry out their duties.

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brassmule 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because this happened during the current "no justice no peace" BS, then this guy is basically screwed by public opinion. He'll get the book thrown at him to try to placate the looting masses.

Justice is not blind in America.

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Moviefone_Kramer 7 points ago +7 / -0

The country is lost. The police have way too much power to arrest on pain of death at their whim.

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minur_ownbiz 3 points ago +4 / -1

Yep LEOs ARE the problem for enforcing unjust rules/laws/policies...

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 7 points ago +7 / -0

WTF? Even friggin' Oregon has Castle Doctrine (viz state supreme court precedent), and they don't distinguish homeowner from business owner.

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Rugar22 5 points ago +6 / -1

That's fucking stupid. All gun laws need to copy Texas now.

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Bunkerbaby 9 points ago +9 / -0

Nah all gun laws follow Arizona. Texas is alright but AZ is king for guns.

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Rugar22 1 point ago +1 / -0

Whichever is more free.

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brassmule 2 points ago +2 / -0

Arizona has great gun laws. As a Texas resident, really the only thing Texas has over Arizona is that you can, legally, shoot someone for criminal mischief (which includes property theft), as long as it is after dark. It's a holdover from the cattle rustling days.

However, Arizona has constitutional carry, an easy permitting process for enhanced and reciprocal carry, stand your ground, and castle doctrine includes your home, workplaces, and vehicle, all topped off by open carry.

Texas does not have permit-less carry and requires one to have a CHL if you intend to open carry a handgun (open carry of rifles is fine).

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Rugar22 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then my idea would go more extreme, allowing Texas's right to legally shoot a bad guy but, at anytime of the day and I wouldn't require any permits at all. Only thing that is holding you back is when the gun seller can check your background and deny you service if they feel your dangerous.

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NvJohansson 2 points ago +2 / -0

I hear Florida is pretty good too when it comes to "make my day" laws.

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Cyer6 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gotta luv Texas!

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Rugar22 2 points ago +2 / -0

I dream of bringing Texas style laws to Virginia once we get our state back.

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Building7 1 point ago +1 / -0

Northern Virginias growth has ensured that will never happen. Amazon has their HQ2 there now, you think they will want the H-1B gravy train to end?

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Rugar22 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not giving up that easily. Do I have to build a business empire like Trump and do this myself?

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Tookens 5 points ago +5 / -0

Good luck getting 12 people to agree with that. He'll never see a day of prison.

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TimeIsARetardedOval 1 point ago +1 / -0

Consider where it happened and what was going on. I imagine you could jury shop him into jail.

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wakingmajority 3 points ago +3 / -0

He needs to fight it in Court. No Pleas! No Deals!

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footinmouth 3 points ago +3 / -0

John Locke will arise from the dead.

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UsurpTheNarrative 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sounds exactly like Canada.

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brassmule 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

Stand your ground is traditionally only for when you are outside your home. In your home - and in most states, your car and place of business as well - Castle Doctrine, which is older than the United States, applies.

Stand your ground has a bad name because of the false media narrative around the Zimmerman case. The media loves to trot out stand your ground whenever they want to make a legal shooting appear unjustified.

I'm not a Minnesota resident and have never traveled there, so I am not familiar with whether or not castle doctrine applies beyond simply your place of dwelling but also to the vehicle or workplace. A quick look makes it appear that only in the place of ones abode do you not have a duty to retreat.

It's totally BS that you cannot feel safe in your own damn business. Where else are you going to retreat to, if not your own office?

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MaxineWaters4Prez 20 points ago +20 / -0

No, it's lose your ground.

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King 9 points ago +9 / -0

give up your birth right!

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MaxineWaters4Prez 14 points ago +14 / -0

Let them loot your store, you bigot!

Also your sentence is doubled because you're not wearing a mask!

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JustHereForTheSalmon 5 points ago +5 / -0

"Get in the boxcar, racist!"

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AlohaChris 2 points ago +2 / -0

Duty to retreat typically requires you to retreat only when you can do so in perfect safety, e.g.: you don’t have to jump through a glass window to retreat.

I failed to see how one can retreat in perfect safety in the middle of a riot.

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myswedishfriend 2 points ago +2 / -0

Better yet, don't say anything.

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CalamityFox 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have to retreat only if you cannot is deadly force authorized.

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Axiom502 1 point ago +2 / -1

Duty to retreat means unless your life is threatened and even if your life IS threatened, if there is a path for you to retreat you MUST retreat and not engage in with trespassers.

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Evei 87 points ago +88 / -1

"duty to retreat" laws are laws written by criminals, for criminals, and supported by criminals.

They are anti-freedom.

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NotRealDemSocialism 34 points ago +34 / -0

"Duty to surrender property when confronted"

What??

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bill_in_texas 22 points ago +22 / -0

The looter also had a duty to retreat.

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Walrus_Tooth 5 points ago +5 / -0

I’ve never understood any reason to afford any protection to someone actively and intentionality seeking to harm others

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hit_backspace 4 points ago +4 / -0

The DNC is pretty much filled with criminals. They also enable criminals every chance they get.

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ShitOfPeace 5 points ago +6 / -1

There are plenty of black people that obey the law and would like to be able to defend themselves. It's about whether you break the law, not your race.

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ShitOfPeace 0 points ago +2 / -2

What exactly is your problem?

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zwiebelsaft 2 points ago +2 / -0

They are anti-freedom.

Ding ding ding.

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ProphetOfKek 67 points ago +67 / -0

White leave: white flight

White move in: gentrification

Therefore: it’s racist to be white

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Malsikcuf 36 points ago +37 / -1

This why there are food deserts in urban areas. Hard to operate on a 4% margin when the employees and neighbors will steal more than that in inventory. And forget about the real estate value..

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JustHereForTheSalmon 15 points ago +15 / -0

I can't even imagine the hearbreak building a business from the ground up only to see it torn back town in ashes because of some outrage over something someone else did.

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independentbystander 10 points ago +10 / -0

>Soam peepo? Deed soam teeng?

F*king Ilhan Omar, I can't what to hear what propaganda soundbite they supply her with.

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farquhar 4 points ago +4 / -0

!Malsikcuf ,deerga

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footinmouth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thats why the Walmart near the current riots closed. They had to hire police to check receipts.

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Ricky_CIA 5 points ago +5 / -0

It's why they lost their spaghetti so fast when the "IT'S OK TO BE WHITE" 4chan op took place.

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DonatesOthersOrgans 30 points ago +30 / -0

Duty to retreat AKA curl up into a ball and die

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Lord_Karius 16 points ago +16 / -0

Yeah or run while you're livelihood is taken while you pray for insurance not to fuck you over.

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MrSir 8 points ago +8 / -0

Can you spray over your shoulder while you do a tactical retreat?

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johnbillaby 26 points ago +27 / -1

Laws from the days before they had people rioting in their streets, I bet.

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thegeebeebee 26 points ago +26 / -0

That's bullshit. Read about the French revolution, history of boulevards and 1917. Way too much evidence against that truly anti-human legislation.

Constitution respects the right to life.

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johnbillaby 18 points ago +18 / -0

They'll likely have to change the law now that they're a riot city and someone is caught up in this law. Then they can have korean roof campers.

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thegeebeebee 15 points ago +15 / -0

I like calling them Americans, but I know what you're saying and appreciate it.

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masculinist 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nobody would know what he's talking about if he wasn't specific

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SemperFree 7 points ago +7 / -0

Good point Jaques

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thegeebeebee 6 points ago +6 / -0

I just want some bread.

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preferredfault 3 points ago +3 / -0

Life and Liberty. The ability to operate a business is a liberty. Someone threatening to destroy that by committing a crime, is effectively taking away ones liberty. Constitution has all this stuff covered, it's just that Democrats like to ignore things that conflict with what they want to achieve.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 21 points ago +21 / -0

Sounds like the exact opposite just as North is the opposite of South, unbelievable. Most of those opportunists don’t give a damn about George Floyd just looking for an excuse to get free shit. Probably got a text: “Hey we’re rioting tonight.”

“About what?”

“Some guy got killed by the cops, idk I saw something on Twitter. Starts at 8pm.”

“Well, I could use a new TV. K I’ll be there around midnight.”

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Irish_Wolfhound 14 points ago +14 / -0

Most weren't even from the area. They bussed in for free shit.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 7 points ago +7 / -0 (edited)

I haven’t seen any stories about that, but I can totally believe, wouldn’t be nearly the 100th time that’s happened to perpetuate something. Some states reopening and where’s the “2nd Wave”? So they need something to distract attention, sorry to sound like a conspiracy theorist.

From what we know now, Floyd didn’t deserve to die like that, more will come out soon, whether on drugs etc. but a counterfeit bill, even resisting it was inappropriate use of force, he was cuffed, shouldn’t have died and the cops should have to go through a trial. But the real people who deserve to die are the looters. Some of the videos floating around, the lady in a wheelchair getting sprayed with a fire extinguisher, punched repeated, just for blocking a fire exit (turned entrance by criminals) the mob mentality is scary and disgusting. Why she was even there in the first place, I have no clue, maybe she thought she was doing the right thing to protest, but you don’t have to have been around long to realize how that was gonna turn out well. Our side protests, the place often looks cleaner and better when everybody leaves; vs the other side, it’s mayhem, people get hurt and it’s totally wrecked EVERYTIME, but look how it’s portrayed by the media.

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Amaroq64 3 points ago +3 / -0

Whenever a big leftist pants-shitting riot happens, I always hear rumors that they got bussed in and didn't even live there.

It's like America's enemies are using our taxpayer-funded infrastructure to move their troops to the battlefield.

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Ucanttakeskyfromme 7 points ago +7 / -0

i would argue i was sorounded and retreating in any direction led to me shooting

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myswedishfriend 3 points ago +3 / -0

Your lawyer can argue that. You shouldn't say anything.

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MindsetRoulette 7 points ago +7 / -0

retreat to where? into the riot? How'd that go for the lady in a wheelchair?

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fthecoup 5 points ago +5 / -0

Do they have self defense there? If so, is it excluded from use by white people?

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lanre 13 points ago +13 / -0

You always have the right to self defense. But corrupt police and prosecutors will still try to hang you for it.

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havemydata 5 points ago +5 / -0

"I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6"

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TheNotSoEvilEngineer 5 points ago +5 / -0

I say it is the DUTY to retreat for criminals when a law abiding gun owner tells them to get the fuck out of their property.

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MadMaxUSMC 4 points ago +4 / -0

Retreat where? The whole city is under attack.

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ProfessorRomendev 4 points ago +4 / -0

Leftists: Insurance companies scam people all the time out of health insurance and property, it's all awful and we need to replace a ton of it.

Also Leftists: lOl, jUsT uSe YoU'rE iNsUrAnCe To rEpLaCe wHaT tHeY sToLe

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Lord_Karius 4 points ago +4 / -0

Exactly

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TheYeeter 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also Minnesota has a "duty to retreat" law for business owners. Looters, come on down!!

Is there a source for this? Minnesota generally prescribes to a form of Castle Doctrine for defence of the home, (but doesn't seem to have a particularly consistent track record of how that applies to co-residents, though that's not relevant here). But I couldn't find any case law that would clarify whether those same protections extended to other places such as a vehicle or place of business.

Here's the relevant ruling from their supreme court:

We agree that when acting in self-defense in the home, a person should not be required to retreat from the home before using reasonable force to defend himself, regardless of whether the aggressor is also rightfully in the home.   Thus we adopt the following rule:  There is no duty to retreat from one's own home when acting in self-defense in the home, regardless of whether the aggressor is a co-resident.   But the lack of a duty to retreat does not abrogate the obligation to act reasonably when using force in self-defense.   Therefore, in all situations in which a party claims self-defense, even absent a duty to retreat, the key inquiry will still be into the reasonableness of the use of force and the level of force under the specific circumstances of each case.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170926191315/http://caselaw.findlaw.com:80/mn-supreme-court/1372291.html

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Lord_Karius 2 points ago +2 / -0

https://statelaws.findlaw.com/minnesota-law/minnesota-self-defense-laws.html

I believe especially for places of business you are not permitted to stand your ground. For home there may be a variation.

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thisisatestof2 2 points ago +2 / -0

These deals are smokin!

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ChelseaHubbell 2 points ago +2 / -0

Where was this guy supposed to retreat to? He's not a fucking ninja

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preferredfault 2 points ago +2 / -0

On top of that, how are you supposed to even have any reasonable expectation of safety if people are smashing through your door and windows all around you? Even if he just stood there at the counter while they took stuff, it would be entirely unreasonable to not feel like someone could attack you at any moment. People like this wouldn't just leave you alone to sit in your corner while they rob you.

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IncredibleMrE1 108 points ago +108 / -0

How dare you question Democrat laws, you racist fucking white male supremacist Nazi!

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Johnfox13 91 points ago +91 / -0

In Erwin v. State (1876), the Supreme Court of Ohio wrote that a "true man", one without fault, would not retreat. In Runyan v. State (1877), the Indiana court rejected a duty to retreat, implying it was un-American, referring to the distinct American mind, "the tendency of the American mind seems to be very strongly against" a duty to retreat. The court went further in saying that no statutory law could require a duty to retreat, because the right to stand one's ground is "founded on the law of nature; and is not, nor can be, superseded by any law of society."

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Paul_Revere 50 points ago +50 / -0

Whoever wrote that opinion is a man whose hand I'd like to shake.

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1A2A 28 points ago +28 / -0

Their opinion is a fucking fact.

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TheDespotofCartoons 17 points ago +17 / -0

Well, what are you doing still sitting around here? Go! Get this to his lawyer, PRONTO!

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Keiichi81 7 points ago +7 / -0

What good is an Ohio court decision going to do for a Minnesota business owner? I'm pretty sure that ruling only impacts residents of Ohio.

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TheDespotofCartoons 7 points ago +7 / -0

Well, I was going to give a pithy response, but DaDonDada1776 beat me to it with a well-placed and informative link. Thanks, Fam!

At any rate, that was a fair question, and I'm honestly glad you asked it. Never be afraid to ask questions, because that's the best way to get answers. ^_^

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neatneatknife 16 points ago +16 / -0

That’s the most American court decision I’ve ever read. It almost brings a tear to this centipede’s eye.

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Irish_Wolfhound 10 points ago +10 / -0

Minnesota ain't America anymore. At least not your America, white man.

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Walrus_Tooth 2 points ago +2 / -0

There isn’t another America. It’s something else entirely they want

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ClownTamer 35 points ago +35 / -0

Nobody. It’s supposed to be handled by insurance I’m assuming. I personally think the law is silly, and would rather give store owners the right to shoot anybody that tries damaging their property or threatening them. Anything less is assuming people are looting and rioting and burning things ‘with good intentions’ or something.

I don’t live in Texas or know their laws, but my Texan friends tell me that they’re allowed to shoot people for so much as suspiciously entering their general property line. I’m okay with that. No solicitors, and no one uninvited. Especially in rural areas where cops can be an hour away.

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fear_mongrels 33 points ago +33 / -0

Well in rural areas your can shoot, shovel, and shut up.

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671-EVIL 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hogs or wood chippers and lye are even better than shovels. There's no crime committed if there's no bodies.

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Canadian-Bacon 14 points ago +14 / -0

How to survive a slasher film:

Rule 1: Own a gun.

Rule 2: Don't not own a gun.

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ClownTamer 9 points ago +9 / -0

Never thought of it that way. They’re all basically ads for the NRA.

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Canadian-Bacon 4 points ago +4 / -0

I can't watch Scream 4 without thinking "how does this girl not carry a gun around with her at all times?"

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Rock_Flag_Eagle 9 points ago +9 / -0

And especially no contact tracers. Texas is definitely on my list of places to retreat to from the liberal shithole I live in. Don't worry, I'll vote red down the ballot and won't bring any drag queens with me.

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ClownTamer 9 points ago +9 / -0

I’m in the Bay and was of the same thinking, but my Texan friends all tell me that people in my area are fleeing to places like that and CO and trying to make those places more like here. I don’t want to uproot my very entrenched life here only to move somewhere else surrounded by the people I was trying to move away from.

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Rock_Flag_Eagle 5 points ago +5 / -0

I suppose I'd have to pick somewhere that degenerate lefties aren't fleeing to. Oklahoma is sounding pretty based and I've also mets tons of raging lefties that fled Idaho cuz they hate it so much.

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TimeIsARetardedOval 2 points ago +2 / -0

and I've also mets tons of raging lefties that fled Idaho cuz they hate it so much.

Desire to know more intensifies

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Rock_Flag_Eagle 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm doing my part!

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Labyrinth9000 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also, China does this by moving their han majority into tibet where they now overpopulate the region and kill off the culture. If one country does that to other, it would be a war crime like in WWII.

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Vassago77379 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can shoot someone for so much as looking in your windows here in the great state of Texas

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ClownTamer 4 points ago +4 / -0

Here in the Bay, you can probably be arrested for looking out your window with disapproval at rioters looting and hobos shitting in the streets after looting. I’m not sure how we still have stores here, there’s a lot of looting going on. Vegan people complain if they can smell meat from a BBQ. There are endless alphabet folks made of glass here.

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unable_afternoon 14 points ago +14 / -0

a well regulated militia is the only answer to this situation.

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hit_backspace 4 points ago +4 / -0

Since the government does nothing to protect its people, and allow criminals to run free as if it's The Purge, militias need to overthrow the tyrants.

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Westonian 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yeah I was about to post this. What if my shop is my livelihood? They've stolen all my merchandise and now I'm broke because the insurance company won't cover it. Now I don't have a home.

My shop is my home, by proxy. If that's actually the law, that's unconstitutional as fuck.

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Meddlesom 2 points ago +2 / -0

How could it possibly be your livelihood? Unless you're a tiktok nurse, your business, and life, are unessential.

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671-EVIL 3 points ago +3 / -0

In my book, there is no difference between defending myself in my home, my business or in the middle of the street. If my life is in danger, I defend myself, regardless of the location.

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IPMang 3 points ago +3 / -0

So I guess the police have a duty to retreat too if the police station is attacked?

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CleanLivingKing 2 points ago +2 / -0

[stonetoss] "Protect?"

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readyIgnite 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not your property to protect it would seem.

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Johnfox13 149 points ago +149 / -0

The story is bullshit because the Mogadishu police spokesman says ‘that a persons business property isn’t their home so his rights to defend it don’t exist‘. Get the fuck out of here with that un-American sentence.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 73 points ago +73 / -0

I'm entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

A man's business is his pursuit of happiness. The gun protects all three.

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KekistanPM 25 points ago +25 / -0

The left thinks business is the opposite of the pursuit of happiness. To them we're all wage slaves controlled by evil business owners with secret million dollar stashes who themselves are never happy because no amount of money is ever enough for them.

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The_Emperor 5 points ago +5 / -0

Among these are Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, AND the right to own Property. The ONLY reason Property isn't in the Declaration is because they didn't want to enshrine slavery in the Declaration of Independence!

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hit_backspace 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's time to exercise 2nd Amendment rights. The 2nd Amendment was written exactly for situations like this, where the security of a free State has been compromised.

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IPMang 5 points ago +5 / -0

"I practically live at work for a better life for my family"

Government:

"Weeeeelllllll... Teeeechhnically...."

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Thingthing22 5 points ago +6 / -1

That's what the duty to retreat law is. You have to flee to your home to defend your life and your property if under lethal threat.

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jive-ass-turkey 5 points ago +5 / -0

Amen, my business property is my livelihood.

You threatened my business, the way I put food on my table and feed my family?

You've done something worse than threaten my life, you've threatened by family's safety and well-being.

I value both dearly, but one of those far exceeds the other.

Fuck around with my business and find out which one.

Is there a link to this guy's legal fund?

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Barack0bama 86 points ago +87 / -1

its gonna get worse before it gets better, the rioters are amping themselves up and getting more and more violent. I fully expect dozens of people to be dead this weekend

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Johnfox13 47 points ago +47 / -0

It doesn’t help when the police basically say “don’t worry, loot and you won’t get shot! Or if you do they will get the book thrown at them wink wink

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ChaplainTappman 18 points ago +18 / -0

That moment when the police have the looter's backs over the tax-paying and law-abiding public.

Wth

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GooseHonkHonk 4 points ago +4 / -0

Clown World persists

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Meddlesom 2 points ago +2 / -0

The (bussed-in) looters and rioters get a pass because the cops killed a black guy. It's only fair.

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TimeIsARetardedOval 1 point ago +1 / -0

The cops are not your friends. They do what their masters tell them to do.

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ntvl 20 points ago +21 / -1

Just wait til unemployment runs out, then we'll see some real riots

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Barack0bama 25 points ago +26 / -1

just wait till they run out of food and realize they just burned down all grocery stores

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FuckReddit4545 7 points ago +7 / -0

And they'll wonder why businesses refuse to invest in those areas.

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NotRealDemSocialism 7 points ago +7 / -0

I honestly can't wait

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TimeIsARetardedOval 2 points ago +2 / -0

As long as tax slaves are too scared to bite back unemployment is going no where.

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weltbild 17 points ago +17 / -0

sometimes it just gets worse until it breaks

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OliverWillis 9 points ago +9 / -0

This. If breaking is inevitable, let's hurry it the hell up and at least eat popcorn while watching from a safe distance.

(That's only if it is truly inevitable... I'd much rather it not be)

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KekistanPM 9 points ago +9 / -0

Maybe all the businesses should quarantine themselves to flatten the curve of rioting...

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Harambe 1 point ago +2 / -1

The racism of certain groups is inevitable, so this shit is inevitable.

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Journey95 11 points ago +11 / -0

The police needs to do something, they are letting these lunatics do what they want

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America1stAndOnly 4 points ago +4 / -0

I picked up some more ammo today. Did a count of my supplies last night and found it wanting. Would still prefer to have more, but I think it will do for now.

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MLGS 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's going to be much worse over the summer, worse than that this fall, and half of the country will refuse to accept the results of the election no matter who wins.

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TimeIsARetardedOval 1 point ago +1 / -0

The world awaits our Caesar.

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here2red 77 points ago +78 / -1

Not shocked!! Blue state mentality

Rob someone's business?...please go ahead!

Shoot someone robbing your business? You're going to jail!!!!

Fucking ridiculous

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zettapede 6 points ago +6 / -0

The sensible thing to do is rob all your competitors and take the loot home.

That's some bad governing.

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zwiebelsaft 1 point ago +1 / -0

Honestly, the laws were on the books when the state was pretty much German, Irish and Scandinavian.

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Toughsky_Shitsky 58 points ago +58 / -0

After shit like this, why would anyone open a store in Minneapolis? Are margins super high to warrent the risk? No fucking way. Enjoy your food desert, dumbfucks.

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lanre 27 points ago +27 / -0

Oh they will. The populace will be too dumb to understand what's going on, and the politicians will continue to import tens of thousands of non-Americans to vote in our elections and deny us our right to representation.

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jive-ass-turkey 3 points ago +3 / -0

If the margin is that high maybe you could find a based Somalian immigrant here and hire them by email/phone and never actually set foot in the state.

There is no margin big enough to get me to move there I can tell you that much.

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Titus70 51 points ago +51 / -0

Just shut up and let them rob you or you're racist

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Genericwhitemale 12 points ago +12 / -0

Hate crime if you're white and shoot a black guy robbing you

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MLGS 5 points ago +5 / -0

A guy who lost his job because of blue state lockdowns that kept him from working but made him still pay his bills without any government support, tried to pay for something with a $20 that's no more fake than the hundreds of billions the Federal Reserve gave away to banks last month, then got murdered on live video is one of the saddest stories I can imagine.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 39 points ago +39 / -0

Duty to retreat = appeasement.

Appeasement never works. The bullies will come back wanting more, every single time.

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oh_hi_solidarity 16 points ago +16 / -0

Exactly. That's what they want.

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Abarth 32 points ago +32 / -0

All looters deserve to be shot. Just my two cents.

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ColinFlahertyDotCom 23 points ago +23 / -0

When someone steals from you they are actually stealing a part of your life that you will never get back. You only have a finite amount of time on this planet, and once you spend it working to make money to purchase things you need and enjoy in life, it’s gone.

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Memebomber 25 points ago +25 / -0

Minnesota is more Cucked than Sweden

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OliverWillis 3 points ago +3 / -0

They need to cut the state in North / South halves, or at least give MSP their own "state" with their own set of laws. Otherwise it's a great state.

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Memebomber 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have been there. Beautiful place. Like Colorado a lot of the state is bullied by the big, liberal population centers. Lots of states like that

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OliverWillis 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's my favorite place in the world to go camping out in the wilderness. So many good lakes that the typical person can't get to without a lot of effort.

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SadPangolin 22 points ago +22 / -0

Anarcho-tyranny strikes again.

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fear_mongrels 8 points ago +8 / -0

Damn you beat me to both comments you made!

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GatorGirl 22 points ago +22 / -0

This poor man - just defending his life, property, and livelihood - this is so upsetting

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Smurfection 20 points ago +20 / -0

Duty to retreat for business owners being robbed during a riot or any other time has to end. I hope the pawn shop owner takes his complaint all the way to the supreme court because the only reason he has a duty to retreat is because there's a very big distinction being made between a residence and a place of business.

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havemydata 18 points ago +18 / -0

Defending a cache of legally for sale firearms from a band of violent rioters is a noble act.

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EPic 13 points ago +13 / -0

Literally saving lives from joggers

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SquidThrowFaux 8 points ago +8 / -0

The filthy communists are calling them "rebels" for standing up to... Target and Wendy's.

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America1stAndOnly 4 points ago +4 / -0

I guess the Baonator couldn't stop them.

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electricboogaloo 17 points ago +17 / -0

What if we organize a well-regulated militia to replace the useless cops and treat the rioters as domestic terrorists? What’s the law have to say about that?

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1776-or-1984 12 points ago +12 / -0

Im down. My favorite thing is Constitutional stuff.

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cccpneveragain 10 points ago +10 / -0

It says it's "necessary to the security of a free State."

It certainly looks like there's a breach of security taking place there.

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TimeIsARetardedOval 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then the SWAT teams are sent to exterminate you. Or the Federales are called in to do the same. Either way the law comes down on you like a ton of bricks.

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Welcome to hell.

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Grilledpepe 16 points ago +16 / -0

How dare you protect yourself and your business

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CheckorHold 15 points ago +16 / -1

I saw people posting stuff on facebook comparing them looting and destroying stores to the Boston tea party. No, the equivalent of the Boston tea party would be to burn down the police station, and I bet you the police would shoot to defend that from happening. Notice the double-standard.

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MLGS 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's just as loathsome as that stretch a year ago where they all got the word to start smirking and saying that WW2 veterans were the real Antifa. Deranged communists who hate America trying to co-opt American symbolism is never going to work.

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TimeIsARetardedOval 1 point ago +1 / -0

Normies are stupid. Don't be too sure.

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minur_ownbiz 2 points ago +3 / -1

You are absolutely right. Boston Tea party equivalent would have been to burn down all police stations and the state capitols for tyranny such as lockdowns, police brutality, double standards in the justice system, etc etc.... but “muh law and order”...

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PedeInADeepBlueSea 14 points ago +14 / -0

"Duty to retreat". I didn't even know such idiocy truly existed. You are unable to defend your business because it is not your home. No, instead the business is the only reason they have a home.

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TimeIsARetardedOval 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're not allowed to defend yourself in your home with many of these fucking laws!

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FliesTheFlag 13 points ago +13 / -0

Nicest pawn shop store front I have ever seen.

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thelastlast 13 points ago +13 / -0

ok thank you now I'm furious for a few hours

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Omgwtfbbq 11 points ago +11 / -0

Don’t pawn shops have guns? He was right to shoot just so they wouldn’t take them.

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ChaplainTappman 4 points ago +4 / -0

Better the letters have illegal guns that one of the looter's lose their lives.

  • MN law
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Formerlurker92 11 points ago +11 / -0

What the fuck is this duty to retreat bullshit. I worked hard for my self and what I own. I will defend both with all weapons available and retreat if I think I should, not because you demand it

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unable_afternoon 11 points ago +11 / -0

a well regulated militia is the only solution to this type of scenario.

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unable_afternoon 1 point ago +1 / -0

what do you mean? that was more a case of a roaming looter and a small handful of minutemen.

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unable_afternoon 2 points ago +3 / -1

don't take responsibility for your own community. if anything happens just shelter in place and give all the power to the standing army of government enforcement.

extremely un-american.

you say arbery didn't deserve to die, but did that man standing in his path deserve to die? arbery was attacking him and trying to take his shotgun.
and how do they not have a right to stand on the side of the road while holding guns? they were not chasing him at that moment (nobody was in the driver's seat of the car). they were only standing in his path, and he charged at them. they weren't threatening or pointing guns at him and he attacked them.

those are just the plain facts. here's my opinion though: the world is a better place now that arbery is dead.

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unable_afternoon 3 points ago +3 / -0

So we have a scenario where one person is:
-standing at a checkpoint, armed. Nothing more. Police do this all the time. Nothing about this was threatening unless you think “being white and holding a gun” is somehow inherently threatening.
And another person is:
-running towards this checkpoint with intent to kill (which he tries to do when he attacks the man and attempts to take his gun. Arbery was unprovoked, unless you think every police checkpoint is provocation for a fight to the death).
How exactly were the white guys aggressors? You’re just saying these things without actually backing them up. Didn’t you even watch the video? It’s like your brain can’t process multiple things at once.

Not only did those two guys, according to you, deserve death for simply being concerned about their community and setting up a checkpoint, but now I deserve to be threatened with my life as well, all for having an opinion. You’re so emotional, like a hysterical woman.
How about I dm you an address where we can meet up at and you come put a gun to my head yourself, tough guy :^)

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bill_in_texas 11 points ago +11 / -0

That's so incredibly fucked up. You can't defend your business? Shit, with a mob of looters and arsonists running wild, I'd say the guy has an excellent "he feared for his life" defense. Duty to retreat? He was presumably inside his own store. Where the fuck was he supposed to retreat to? The bathroom in the back? What happens when the rioters torch the building? He just burns up in the resulting inferno?

Whole lotta WTF here.

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Vassago77379 11 points ago +11 / -0

Let me get this straight, the only one to get arrested In all this bullshit is the dude protecting his livelihood? Blue states are so fucked it's ridiculous

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TimeIsARetardedOval 1 point ago +1 / -0

Coming to the Red states soon.

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ScottyGunn 10 points ago +10 / -0

You are supposed to just let them loot the shit out of it, restock it and go home. They are busy "protesting".

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mugatucrazypills 10 points ago +10 / -0

Send in the Roof Koreans.

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Caitiffculprit 9 points ago +9 / -0

🤡🌎

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Brickman45 9 points ago +9 / -0

So we had our election year pandemic. Now, we are having our traditional election year race war.

What election year flair is next? Gay hate crime, me too 5.0, white nationalist terrorist attack, pro life radical is a racist, etc

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Vinyl_Hunter 2 points ago +3 / -1

Space Alien Invasion

Do you think they wouldn’t? Because they would. It doesn’t have to be any more “real” than this virus.

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EADReddit 9 points ago +9 / -0

Obviously that man on the sidewalk died of COVID

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Johnfox13 3 points ago +3 / -0

LOL

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Debutante 9 points ago +9 / -0

These rioters and looters are unwilling to let the legal system take its course. Or at least that is their excuse. This situation regarding riots brings to mind a method of riot quelling in the days following Dr. King's death.

Mayor Richard J. Daley (The Old Man -- not the son) identified rioters as arsonists and thus "potential murderers". On that basis, he issued an order for the police to "shoot to kill" or "shoot to maim". It's a matter of historical record. I was a little girl at the time, but as I recall, the rioting did not last long because of this order.

I do not think this modern method of allowing them to tantrum looting and burning at will yields positive results.

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suckmycorona 3 points ago +3 / -0 (edited)

Because the demonstrators and joggers are weak when either alone or called out on their BS they coward. I don't feel citizens should ever be fired upon but history as shown us that these riots can only be dealt with one way. Look up the Newark NJ riots of 1967. As soon as word got out that rioters were being thrown off roofs it ended rather quickly.

Spez (You horn blower) edit - The city has never recovered even this many years later. Yes politicians ruin things and they weren't favorable to the community at that time, but burning the place down just makes people blame you more for the cause.

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TheWolf 9 points ago +9 / -0

Absolute horse shit. If you live in the area you should go fight for this man.

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1776-or-1984 7 points ago +7 / -0

working on it

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suckmycorona 9 points ago +9 / -0

"We want to make sure that we do in fact have all of the facts moving forward. We don’t want to cast aspersions on somebody if in fact they weren’t doing anything wrong.”

But they already arrested someone. But clearly stated they don't have all the facts. What the ever living fuck.

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Slice 9 points ago +9 / -0

Sigh, Democrats enact stupid gun laws, criminals abuse those laws, democrats move away from criminal hellholes, enact stupid gun laws, criminals abus...

Democrats are the virus.

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Nadlers_Belt 9 points ago +9 / -0

The only part of Obama’s legacy that still remains.

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thegeebeebee 8 points ago +8 / -0

Isn't this just going to continue to drive capitalists away from locations where the risk to capital is just too great?

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TimeIsARetardedOval 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is exactly what the commies want. It's all part of the plan.

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Hektik 8 points ago +8 / -0

Why though? Didn't they call in the National Guard? Which means the cops weren't doing jack shit to protect his weapons stock.

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bellcurvestrikesback [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

natl guard will not arrive til late tonight

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KILLARY4PRISON 4 points ago +4 / -0

I watched the live feeds last night. The national guard was there and was cowering with the police at precinct 3. It was pathetic.

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utfanx2 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is outrageous! Time to start a full scale riotpeaceful protest for his release.

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Austin62Halo 7 points ago +7 / -0

Time to start a militia we must. This man and his business deserve that help. If your in the area I would encourage you to go Andy help defend local business.

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ColinFlahertyDotCom 7 points ago +7 / -0

The laws and people who “enforce” them are there to protect the morally corrupt criminals from the moral LACs. Until this fact changes, western civilization will continue to diminish and falter.

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Vinyl_Hunter 7 points ago +7 / -0

war is here

Enemies on all sides

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mortyball 7 points ago +7 / -0

Who will guard his store tonight?

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TheDespotofCartoons 9 points ago +9 / -0

Sadly, it's a bit of a moot point. In the article, it states that right after he was arrested, they looted with impunity (well, not in those exact words).

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Harambe 5 points ago +6 / -1

So police assisting the looters directly. lmao

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PinkoTheClown 7 points ago +7 / -0

Funny how we're told Minnesota is a "duty to retreat" state yet their own website says this.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.06

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.065

CTRL f "retreat" has zero results.

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PotatoFarmer20 7 points ago +7 / -0

Excellent dig. He had no duty to retreat. The "urban youths" were rioting and assaulting any white person they saw. If he retreated he would have been attacked again. He had reasonable fear for his life. Can fire not kill? Werent they lighting buildings on fire and beating every white person they saw? By going into his shop and locking the door he already had retreated. It is reasonable to assume that any person breaking in during a riot was not there to say hello.

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CantThinkOfUserName 7 points ago +7 / -0

Here's an interesting live stream I found covering today's riots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsnEis-U65o

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magaorg 6 points ago +6 / -0

Savages. At least one got justice. Poor guy.

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xdrunkagainx 6 points ago +6 / -0

Next time I bet he'll use Boogaloo Official Brand Rooftop Koreans.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 6 points ago +6 / -0

How bad is it that I’m not even surprised by this?

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Irish_Wolfhound 6 points ago +6 / -0

The cops won't protect you.

The National Guard won't protect you.

And if you protect yourself? Go to jail, white boy.

At what point do you finally admit you've been conquered?

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Meddlesom 3 points ago +3 / -0

Right... about... now

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Keiichi81 6 points ago +6 / -0

Elder also said he believes Minnesota’s “duty to retreat” law means a businessowner doesn’t have a right to defend their property with lethal force because it’s not their home.

No, it's just what enables you to continue living in your home.

Fucking cretins. Never live in a Democrat state, because this is the sort of nonsense they'll push on you. You can't defend your business from looters seeking to destroy it. They just expect you to turn tail and run while rampaging rioters set fire to your life's work and sole livelihood.

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CJBarnacle 6 points ago +7 / -1

White people need to get organized and QUICK.

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bellcurvestrikesback [S] 4 points ago +6 / -2

Large numbers of whites intermixed into the black majority among the looting

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RememberTheLiberty 6 points ago +6 / -0

Duty to retreat is hella gay

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PotatoFarmer20 3 points ago +3 / -0

Its Unconstitutional. Clearly.

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NvJohansson 6 points ago +6 / -0

Who would want to live in such as ass-backwards cesspool of a state?

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Meddlesom 3 points ago +3 / -0

Criminals.

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nachosamplerREBORN 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is how shit-hole cities and states become shit-hole cities and states. Businesses close, people leave. Nobody wants to live in places like this.

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Rich11 5 points ago +5 / -0

The area of the riots in Mpls has been a dumping ground since I was a child. Used to be blue collar and native americans. It's a sewer now. That was 50 years ago too.

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johnbillaby 5 points ago +5 / -0

This should be interesting.

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Democrats_R_Evil 5 points ago +5 / -0

Arm up pedes! Civil War is a comin.

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FuckReddit4545 4 points ago +4 / -0

The facts of what led up to the shooting are still being sorted out.

Better arrest this evil racist bigot store owner first though, no need to investigate before he gets tossed in a cell.

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Fuckreddit01 4 points ago +4 / -0

Fucking bullshit duty to retreat laws. Make it a SCOTUS case.

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Karmy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Does anyone else see the hand of Obama in this event? His entire MO was to separate and divide. During his term, race relations decreased by 50%. BLM and AntiFa were at the top of the news. Since President Trump was elected race relations changed due to his advances in laws affecting minority populations. All of a sudden, restrictions are being repulsed by the population at large because people want to get back to normal, and now we have this horrific and criminal death to George Floyd and the riots. What happened to George Floyd should never have happened but the response is what I question. I sense an outside force.

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Bunkerbaby 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wtf

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Rokaroo 3 points ago +4 / -1

Is Minnesota french for pussy?

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UsurpTheNarrative 3 points ago +3 / -0

Where can I offer a $500 bounty to break the legs of the guy who used the fire extinguisher on the crippled old lady? /jk... maybe....

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Znut55 3 points ago +3 / -0

they don't want to cause additional problems and have more accusations of racism...and the scum looters KNOW IT. How many times have we seen this same scenario during the Obama years??

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heyyoudvd 3 points ago +3 / -0 (edited)

I just put 2 and 2 together.

Maybe I’m late to this, but I just realized that Minneapolis is located in Minnesota’s 5th District.

Who’s the congressman in charge of Minnesota’s 5th?

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Ilhan Omar.

No wonder the place is exploding. It’s a Somali-filled shithole governed by a terrorist brother-lover.

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xBigCoffinHunter 3 points ago +3 / -0

Duty to retreat? What the actual fuck Minnesota?

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redditadminssuckit 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society.

Their peaceful and generous nature, even during trying times, make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture.

Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people.

Real estate values are fueled by the influx of large numbers of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nature, improving the success and safety of their communities,

Cities in which large numbers of African Americans live gleam, brightly shining as an example of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self- improvement earned with honest, hard work, and a self-reliant can-do nature.

Without their industrious and creative drive, we would undoubtedly be poorer as a nation.

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Randomite 3 points ago +4 / -1

I agree that MN ought to legislate Stand Your Ground, but tbh, this is the first/only pawn shop I've ever seen that doesn't have security bars on all storefront and doors so that people can't do a smash and grab. Since most insurance won't cover losses from rioting, this guy is suffering a major setback from this, even if MN doesn't prosecute.

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Flipbarryfromreddit 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’m so fucking angry rn I can’t even speak. Holy fucking shit. Why is he arrested for shooting someone robbing his store?????? WTF HIS PAWN STORE WAS “CLEANED OUT” these people are fucking savages!!!!!!!!!

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masculinist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Jessica McBride, the author of the linked article, practically doxxed the guy. Pretty strange how much of his personal info she put in there, including his home town and other businesses. It's like she wants something bad to happen to his family.

What's her agenda?

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HongKongFluey 2 points ago +3 / -1

Muh black lives matter

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DontTreadOnThee 2 points ago +2 / -0

PARDON!

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Dialectic 2 points ago +2 / -0

Duty to retreat is double speak for get shot in the back

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Cyber1776 2 points ago +2 / -0

You guys ready to realize what was going on with that whole Karen thing? How it was just a slur for white women? If you call the police on someone who threatens you and they are black, congrats youre a racist and your life will be ruined. If you defend yourself against attacks and they are black congrats your life will be ruined.

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Mintap 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is why they are using this guy as a catalyst instead of the "Jogger." The "Jogger" was in Georgia that has Stand you ground laws.

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Mintap 1 point ago +1 / -0

He was fleeing a felony and assaulted the two guys attempting to perform a legal citizen's arrest.

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no_antifa 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah yes.. CLOWN WORLD

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Iliketomaga 2 points ago +2 / -0

I haven’t been mad at a political story in a while but the fact that a city where my family lives is being turned into a war torn jungle and the cops aren’t even trying to stop it makes my blood boil. These rioters hate America, they burned they flag, get them out of our country if they hate it.

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Logan051361 2 points ago +2 / -0

So he is not allowed to defend his business?

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preferredfault 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

I can't possibly see how insurance would cover anywhere close to this mans losses if he were required to allow people to just loot. A pawn shop is a tricky business, with various value on items, that can be difficult if not impossible to account for entirely. It would be a nightmare to try to get insurance to cover everything. The best he could have hoped for is for it to cover his base costs, which would still put him out of business and in the hole once you consider that he would have to rebuild....after a pandemic lock down no less. Hell by the time he even got insurance to pay a dime, he would already be out of business.

I believe there is a federal law that says it is legal to kill anyone in the commission of a felony, and federal law would supersede local/state law. And it shouldn't matter if it's your home or not....if you own the business, that's no difference from being personally mugged in an alley.

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STIDGIT64 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here we have unequal justice 4. Useless cops murder a man then get fired . Now we have an innocent. Man in jail protecting his lively hood sorry but those fucking. Crooked cops should be held for any and all deaths brought about by their actions. I am sorry but seeing the video of 3 cops on top of one man that handcuffed behind his back well lets just say they are lucky. That someone with a concealed carry license did not take them out.

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Grady_Wilson 1 point ago +1 / -0

The local law says you can use deadly force if your life is in danger.

Well, being as they were looting and torching surrounding businesses I would argue that the pawn shop owner's life was in danger.

But a jury in a cucked state may find otherwise.

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DeeDay 1 point ago +1 / -0

I guess we need some training in America on proper disposal.

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Supersaiyanbroly737 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks Obama for culturally enriching the MN.

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BuyPepe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because the cops want the attention on the looters and the blacks burning down the city. They don’t want the focus being on their limitless ROE which allows them to shred the constitution and tyrannical rule with impunity.

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keep_winning 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank goodness the criminals were released from jail so they didn't get the wuhan flu.....nothing bad can come from that....right?

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SuckMyCuckSpez 1 point ago +1 / -0

That site is littered with ads

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lifeisahologram 1 point ago +1 / -0

Cadillac Pawn was completely cleaned out of merchandise after reports of the owner shooting a looter spread amongst the rebels

Looters be like: "How dare you stop us from looting, we're gonna loot you as revenge for you not letting us loot you!"

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freightallday 1 point ago +2 / -1

Why do I get the feeling this guy wasn't JUST defending his property. I think he was defending his life! Why do I get the feeling the perp had a weapon and was threatening him? Hardly anyone would shoot another human if they were simply taking something and didn't pose a risk.

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HeyZeusChristo54 1 point ago +1 / -0

Cops would rather let your family be raped and murdered than to enforce order and be called a racist. This riot is absolute proof that we do not need police when we already have a 2nd Ammendment and a God given right to self defense. Cops are not your friends. Fuck cops.

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bellcurvestrikesback [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Amen. They may actually do what the antilockdown protesters weren't able to: end the fear of staying home

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Abalone_Republic 0 points ago +1 / -1

Nah. They deserve no respect. They are picking the easy targets rather than the correct ones. That's not courage.

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The_Daydreamer 1 point ago +1 / -0

He was arrested for not being Korean.

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SAW2TH 1 point ago +1 / -0

So fucking backwards.

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offensivebias 1 point ago +1 / -0

True patriot.

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Kaboola 1 point ago +1 / -0

All this tells me is if there are enough people to break the law, there are no consequences

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BonerDonor 1 point ago +1 / -0

peak clown world

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Labyrinth9000 1 point ago +1 / -0

Rooftop Koreans 2.0

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remember1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

this is fucking clown 🤡🌎 world bro

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Eric-CIA-ramella 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's absolutely not true OP, they arrested a shitload of retards last night, no need to karma farm this isn't Plebbit

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returnoftherepubs 1 point ago +1 / -0

He should have said the were threatening his life and he couldn't escape

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Beastifus 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

Tough question: How do you respond when the police are coming for you for protecting your own property?

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PNWArtist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Minnesota has some bad laws, and a lot of bad politicians. But even MN can come back if she wants to. There are good men and women willing to stand up and fight back if they had the right leadership.

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Ghostphaez 1 point ago +1 / -0

Meanwhile, the 3rd police precinct is in the process of being looted and burnt down the the Commies.

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Milkbeer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Billy Bagpipes playing his song.

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TaggartCiscontinenta 1 point ago +1 / -0

LOL Cadillac Pawn. It’d be a miracle if a store by that name wasn’t looted.

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AdoviFreon 1 point ago +1 / -0

I hope they burn that city to the ground. That city has fostered this type of thinking for so long they can reap what they've sown.

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B1ueCo11ar 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you shoot someone, no matter the circumstances, your going to jail. Say nothing to cops. Get a lawyer. This doesn't excuse the other people not being arrested. But yeah you get in a gun fight your going to the clink for 24 to 48 hours period.

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BrewSwillis 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why are they calling these people "looters"?

They are robbers, or burglars!

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BrewSwillis 1 point ago +1 / -0

Calling them looters, is downplaying the fact that they are also either breaking and entering, or burglarizing/robbing businesses and people.

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ds420 1 point ago +1 / -0

Looting a pawn shop seems kind of dumb. The ones I have been in all sold guns.

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victory2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

Need roof top Koreans.

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Neonlightdistrict 0 points ago +1 / -1

Why did the store owner only shoot AFRICAN AMERICANS? that's the real question.

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MakeAmericaGreat9 -11 points ago +8 / -19 (edited)

If the guy shot someone robbing his store, as much as I disagree, he's at fault in Minnesota per the article.

I don't know much about laws up there but duty to retreat seems to be a thing there, which is fucking retarded.

You gotta know your gun laws before you open up on someone, your life and freedom depend on it.

Now if the perp had a gun and he had no choice, fuck that asshole.

Edit: down vote away, but I didn't write the law in Minnesota. Vote out communist politicians and FIX the laws

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Shadilay_Were_Off 22 points ago +23 / -1 (edited)

Unjust, unconstitutional laws ought to be ignored.

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MakeAmericaGreat9 -12 points ago +4 / -16

Right ignore them, then do life in prison. 🙄

Were not talking about fucking speeding here, were talking about murder. While I disagree with the law, you still can't just decide, fuck it, I'm gonna shoot someone then hope for the best.

If you don't like the laws, move.

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Shadilay_Were_Off 13 points ago +13 / -0

I might remind you that the law was once okay with slavery, women as second class citizens, and so forth. You've got a pretty shitty set of moral principles if they're predicated entirely on what the law allows.

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ColinFlahertyDotCom 4 points ago +4 / -0

The laws and people who “enforce” them are there to protect the morally corrupt criminals from the moral LACs. Until this fact changes, western civilization will continue to diminish and falter.

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suckmycorona -1 points ago +1 / -2

Well it is still current law as much as we disagree with it and what separates us is that we still what to go ahead, work, pay bills, support family and hopefully save enough to have a few years retirement. They are doing exactly what you are advocating, breaking the law and creating a scenario that they will have no future. Self preservation is a trait of intelligence and the people rioting are demonstrating that they have none. Stay the course everyone, go to work, build wealth, better yourselves which in turn makes you a better person to be around and others will appreciate it. Be a low life piece of shit like the rioters, well they can go F themselves.

Oh and if anyone knows where the service will be for the "demonstrator" who died, I'd like to send a gift basket, I'm thinking a MAGA hat and an American flag.

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MakeAmericaGreat9 -4 points ago +2 / -6

When it comes to going to prison for the rest of my life, yeah you kinda got no choice. I don't agree with the law, don't fucking confuse that. But I'm telling you Wtf else are you gonna do? You have insurance for a reason.

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Shadilay_Were_Off 5 points ago +5 / -0

But I'm telling you Wtf else are you gonna do?

Don't get caught.

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MakeAmericaGreat9 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well there's always that too lol

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Shadilay_Were_Off 2 points ago +2 / -0

Heh. My bad for misunderstanding earlier, but that subhuman thug that was looting the store absolutely got what was coming to him. If that owner winds up doing time for it, it'll be a great injustice :(

... continue reading thread?
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ForHumans 7 points ago +7 / -0

Ignoring unjust laws is as American as apple pie

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MakeAmericaGreat9 -6 points ago +1 / -7

NOT WHEN IT COMES TO GOING TO JAIL FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

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ColinFlahertyDotCom 5 points ago +5 / -0

That’s why you go to trial and hopefully get a jury of your peers who would put themselves in your shoes and understand jury nullification.

When someone steals from you they are actually stealing a part of your life that you will never get back. You only have a finite amount of time on this planet, and once you spend it working to make money to purchase things you need and enjoy in life, it’s gone.

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Meddlesom 1 point ago +2 / -1

Then roll over and die.

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oh_hi_solidarity 6 points ago +6 / -0

Wtf happened to America. Duty to retreat? Is this Sweden?

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DLane1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Worse than Sweden wherever Democrats have been allowed to fester.

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Ekgamut 2 points ago +2 / -0

1965 Act happened.

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MakeAmericaGreat9 0 points ago +1 / -1

Uh, it's been a thing for a while. I agree with you... Vote in new politicians if you don't like the laws.

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monkadelic 5 points ago +5 / -0

You are right about it being the letter of the law “duty to retreat”. So I don't think you should be downvoted. Typically pawn shops have a lot of guns. You retreat from that and allow a looting free for all, lots of death.

Also, if you write the words “duty to retreat” on anything, you're a loser imo

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MakeAmericaGreat9 2 points ago +3 / -1

I don't agree with the law. I most definitely agree that they could have taken guns from the store and went on a spree and could have killed him. Duty to retreat laws are fucking stupid.

In PA If someone breaks into my house without a weapon and I light them up, I'm toast. If they have my TV in their hands when I shoot, I'm going to jail. It's retarded. If they break in with a gun and I leave them on the floor in good. How stupid is that shit? Someone breaks into my house and I can't shoot them.

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monkadelic 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pardon me Mr. Robber sir, are you armed with a weapon by chance? Fuck all that. Im shooting first and asking questions later. My family's safety comes before that stupid fucking law. Glad I live in a better place with better laws.

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MakeAmericaGreat9 1 point ago +2 / -1

Dude I fucking agree. I have a child. If someone breaks in they are done. I'll go to jail so my child can survive. It's absolutely fucking bullshit that people go to jail for protecting their shit. Like I've said, I don't agree with the law, but it's still the law. Hopefully the jury acquits him

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ColinFlahertyDotCom 1 point ago +1 / -0

When someone steals from you they are actually stealing a part of your life that you will never get back. You only have a finite amount of time on this planet, and once you spend it working to make money to purchase things you need and enjoy in life, it’s gone.

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