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wong 261 points ago +262 / -1

Hold up, he hasn't won till they've counted all the ballots they haven't found yet!

magabigleague2 206 points ago +208 / -2 (edited)

I wouldn't hold my breath. In 2018 it looked like we won a ton of incumbent seats that were historically red in California and lo and behold we lost every single one of them after ballot harvesting.

kekpower 183 points ago +186 / -3

THIS! This never gets mentioned! Election Night 2018: there were TWENTY congressional seats “too close to call” in CA. 7-9 days later ALL TWENTY went Dem. A statistition did an analysis on the likelihood that all TWENTY could go Dem after being “too close to call” the night of the election. Someone linked to it on T_D. It was like a 1 in 4 billion chance. The Dems cheat where they can get away with it!

DickTick 51 points ago +52 / -1

That last sentence is the key to the whole thing... They only do it in states where they have full power and control....

-Howitzer- 48 points ago +48 / -0

It will be voter fraud and Republicans will roll over and say nothing.

VetforTrump -1 points ago +2 / -3

How do you know? Is it a guess, u going going on past experience? Things have changed.

phate451 1 point ago +2 / -1

Past experience says 100%

murderhornet 14 points ago +14 / -0

As unbelievable as it is, and at least in CA, they had passed a law that allowed for ballot harvesting.

that1guy1981 11 points ago +11 / -0

It wasn't a they, it was a him. California Secretary of State Alejandro Padilla, changed the rules to allow for ballot harvesting. It wasn't even a law, just one crooked secretary of State, Alejandro "Alex" Padilla.

splink 7 points ago +7 / -0

Remember the Soros project to get all Secretaries of State into the Dem camp? He focused on that because of garbage like this being possible from that position.

LetFreedomRing 3 points ago +3 / -0

And Attorney Generals from all over the U.S.

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Carry_Your_Name 66 points ago +66 / -0

Nevertheless, the main reason was the dozens of GOP lawmakers' retirement all because of the collusion hoax, leaving their seats empty and up for grab. If they had stayed, the GOP would by no way lose its majority considering congressmen have a 90-95% successful rate of being reelected. Paul Ryan was only in his late 40s or early 50s, and yet he quit in June. Simply put, they handed over the majority to pelosi. Many of them were nevertrumpers. They'd rather lose the majority than standing with the president.

WinnerPlaysTCU 34 points ago +36 / -2

Thats ok though for the long run honestly. The sooner they left, the sooner we could flush them out. Sort of like how we had to lose in 2012 for the reaction to be strong enough to get Trump. Never Trumpers -> Dem losers that the people tire of -> MAGA Party members

hypebeast420 21 points ago +22 / -1

I agree. I supported Romney against Obama in 2012 (who wouldn't?) but wow he's really exposed himself as deep state. Think we'd have just more of the same old if he won.

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ChrissyBlatantFraud 22 points ago +22 / -0

How quickly people forgot the RNC rigged the primary for mittens.

In the long run the RNC played themselves because IIRC, that rule that rigged the primary for Romney gave Trump the nomination.

Hjfp5 17 points ago +17 / -0

100 times this. This is the specific reason I will never donate money directly to the RNC for the rest of my life. He was going to be the nominee and they disqualified and replaced all his delegates at the 11th hour right before the convention. They are no better than the DNC in this respect.

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namechangearoo 6 points ago +6 / -0

Man I missed Ron Paul until Trump came! Everyone should still read his manifesto. It was very enlightening.

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magabigleague2 1 point ago +1 / -0

In hindsight I'd rather vote for Obama than that traitor Romney. At least with Obama you knew what you got. Romney however...

Also Hindsight on McCain. What the hell was I thinking.

hypebeast420 1 point ago +1 / -0

Controlled opposition, and also shitty planning by the RNC. There are some who still deadass support Palin, even though it was clear from her first Katie Couric interview that she was a mess. Can you imagine Trump answering questions from Katie Couric that awkwardly?

Now, I like that Palin helped hop on the Trump Train, but she's useful as a campaigner, NOT actually as VP.

SaratogaPatriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Great way to look at it. Are there significantly less retirements this time around?

Techrev 2 points ago +2 / -0 (edited)

Yeah, IMHO, 2012 was a massive win. It drained part of the swamp. Probably the worst part of it.

TommyLasordasBallBag 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not to mention taking the house and Senate because of the tea party movement pretty much crippled Obama's reign of terror. That's why they off'd Scalia. They couldn't get Congress.. so they wanted the supreme court. Enter Merrick Garland, deep state judge. Luckily cocaine mitch put that out. 12-16 were crazy times

BKav 8 points ago +9 / -1

In other words they were pussies and either didn’t believe “their beliefs” or wouldn’t support another who believed in “their beliefs”. They can all rot in hell or better yet gitmo.

AngelMark 3 points ago +3 / -0

They retired because they were part of the kiddie fucking money laundering treasonous SWAMP!

nakedjay 2 points ago +2 / -0

A bunch were neocons and they knew that their corrupt practices and kickbacks wouldn't happen under the maga movement.

VetforTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

The bad guys had R's by their names but were deep staters

bitterbut_true 29 points ago +31 / -2

They WON'T ballot harvest or scam this one. Garcia is safe. They want MAGA to rejoice and think--'wow we can win!!, the margins are just too big'.

How stupid would they be to scam this one and set off ALL the alarms now, over what?... a single solitary 6-month seat in the House.

They'll deliberately let this one slide...They're saving up for the BIG DANCE in November.

DoYouBelieveInMAGA 17 points ago +17 / -0

Interesting take, seems logical. On the other hand, the Dems just don't care and they always get away with anything.

Bubtwilu 12 points ago +13 / -1

They don’t care about alarms. The cheating has been obvious for years and yet nothing happens to stop it or hold people accountable. I would not be surprised at all if the mail in ballots are 90% blue and this is stolen. We will complain and Trump will tweet and in a week it will be forgotten with no investigation.

Psilocybik 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think Trump will win but if he loses due to mass fraud, he'll overturn the results somehow. The patriots won't let us get robbed by the Democrats, Trump is our last shot at rooting out all the massive Dem corruption in this country.

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Psilocybik 1 point ago +2 / -1

Good vibes your way my friend!

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DickTick 7 points ago +7 / -0

We should have a way where everyone gets to vote together on the most underrated comment each week.

You would deserve it for this week.

ADAM_SCHITT 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is the correct answer. This is a meaningless seat, they're trying to prove that mail in ballots are fair so they can fuck us in November.

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Toughsky_Shitsky 64 points ago +67 / -3

Trunks of cars decide elections in today's America.

Prove me wrong.

HockeyMom4Trump 35 points ago +36 / -1

I can’t. The trunk of a car won Al Franken his seat in MN years ago. I think he started the trend.

Psilocybik 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's still Norm Coleman's seat, in my mind. Fucking hope Jason Lewis takes it from that hag Tina Smith.

HockeyMom4Trump 2 points ago +2 / -0

JASON LEWIS! I hope he wins too. I am voting for him.

Taqiyya_Mockingbird 27 points ago +28 / -1

You have to call it a bomb threat first so that you can lockdown the scene and have your agents go in and secure the boxes. Like in Broward, 2018. Wait... Broward?? Why do I know that name?

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namechangearoo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Every damn time.

lalicat 16 points ago +17 / -1

Democrats created a fucking banana republic.

Toughsky_Shitsky 10 points ago +11 / -1

On purpose. Look how easy it is to fleece citizens of banana republics ... Venezuela, for example.

axrevolutionai 9 points ago +9 / -0

Storage units in middle school gyms are pretty influential too

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winsome 18 points ago +18 / -0

Brenda Snipes

SixteenBeatsAOne 6 points ago +6 / -0

a. k. a. Marhan

DoYouBelieveInMAGA 7 points ago +7 / -0

"Just tell us how many votes he is going to win by and we will finish counting."

SenditDownrange 4 points ago +4 / -0

Have all the dead people and illegals had a chance to vote yet? We all know how slow they can sometimes be...

coupgardener 115 points ago +119 / -4

Maybe I should take a run at some local office... California could use more Hispanic Conservative leaders running on a campaign based on common sense American values.

I don't have that street cred as a fighter pilot like Mike does tho :/

liberty4alll 40 points ago +58 / -18

Seriously. California needs more Hispanic conservative leaders to use their influence among Californians. Imagine conservative rallies in Spanish? Hispanics would vote big time for someone who resonates with them. Remember, Hispanic values ARE conservative values.

Fabius 55 points ago +64 / -9

Imagine conservative rallies in Spanish?

Americans speak English. I don't give a fuck if you vote red if you don't speak the language of this country. Don't get cucked into the identity politics of the left where you have to give up your country to foreigners to elect someone with a red tie. Fuck that.

I'll never vote for anyone who speaks spanish as a primary language, or panders to "hispanics" on the campaign trail. Diversity is not a strength. All identity politics does is turn our country into a battleground drawn along ethnic lines.

liberty4alll 13 points ago +22 / -9

Dude. Believe me. I get it. I hate it too. Truly, from the bottom of my heart I believe identity politics is ripping this country to pieces. HOWEVER, look at why democrats have taken over every single minority demographic - in spite of them having absolutely insane policies. It’s cuz democrats are simply better at building trust with those constituents. That trust is how you win them over. I hate that human nature is this way, but it’s just the way people are wired. Some of us (you and I included) don’t need no pandering, but, sadly, most people do. And if a conservative leader happens to speak their language, and happens to eat their food, then use it to TAKE BACK THIS COUNTRY!

Fabius 30 points ago +32 / -2

HOWEVER, look at why democrats have taken over every single minority demographic - in spite of them having absolutely insane policies. It’s cuz democrats are simply better at building trust with those constituents.

The reason they build "trust" with those demographics is because they speak to their racial heritage, and in so doing create racial division and infuse that into our political system. Look how much time is spent already making racial policies to deal with the unending cluster fuck that "diversity" has given us. Really look at how many of our problems come from this so called strength. It has already totally handicapped this country, maybe permanently. What else do we talk about in America besides race?

When the Germans, Swedes, and Italians came here in the 19th century, our politicians didn't speak German or Italian to them, or tell them that we needed a German or Italian on the Supreme Court, or in congress, or anything else. They were expected to learn English and become Americans. And because there was no welfare state propping them up, it was in their best interests to assimilate as quickly as possible. They knew they would never be rich, or even well off, but the hope is that their children would do better because they were born and raised here, not in the old countries.

Compare that with "hispanics" who come here. They speak Spanish in the home, teach their kids Spanish first, rely on the schools to teach them English as a second language, and many take government welfare so they never have to assimilate. The majority don't want to be Americans. They love Mexico and teach their kids to love Mexico, not the U.S. The majority do not love this country. They see it as them "getting one over on the stupid gringos", and celebrate their demographic dominance.

The jury is out on whether or not the 2nd generation will behave this way, as American culture is still the strongest and most attractive in the world. But it doesn't help with Democrats (and you, apparently) constantly reinforcing this ethnic separation by speaking a foreign language. It creates division, whether you see it or not. It paints them as others, and tells them subconsciously that they aren't "real" Americans, because they need to be pandered to. It's the same thing Democrats do to blacks, and look at the black Democrat constituency.

I'm married to a woman of 2nd generation hispanic descent. My kid is mixed race (if you want to call it that - I don't). You have no idea how infuriating it is to know that one day some fucking libtard is going to indoctrinate my kid that white people (his dad) are the devil that keep down brown people (possibly him). They're going to tell him that he can't succeed here because of racism, and that because he is brown (kinda) that he will never belong. Fuck that. I tell my kid every day about the past glory of the United States. The moon landings. I tell him his great grandfathers fought in WW2 and defeated totalitarianism. I tell him he's an American, and that's it.

I get wanting to celebrate the culture of your ancestors. But there is a place for other cultures in other nations. There is only room for one culture in the United States - American culture. Anything less will destroy the country you think you're saving.

cluckingducks 14 points ago +16 / -2

This is terrific.^^^

axrevolutionai 9 points ago +9 / -0 (edited)

I agree with you. normie Mexican American parents do not teach their children that their culture is so amazing because of Europeans and other cultures. Their sweet bread is French, their tortillas are Arabic, their music is German, their religion is Roman, all of their political leaders studied in Europe. Also, they got to be a foot taller, lighter skinned, and genetically hardy because of Spanish, French , and German blood mixing with the natives

but instead they dream of a new Atzlan, not realizing Mexico would be dead and a footnote in history if Europeans had never conquered it. They shun their half European blood even though everything great about them is because of it. Yeah, the Aztecs recognized the zero before any other culture mathematically, but they didn't know what to do with it so they were quickly eclipsed by Asians and Europeans.

My mom is from Mexico and my dad is American, so I have Mexican heritage on one side but My parents raised me to only love America and to be very aware of what her culture actually meant. My great grandfather on my mom's side blue eyes and blonde hair even. American Liberal "latino" culture is brainwashing and sets Hispanics back. There's no reason young Hispanics should be walking stereotypes, whether it be Latino gang member or the Mexican version of hicks. It'd be a completely different country if they all had chosen to integrated and assimilated the way Italians and Greeks did. Also, our country would be absolutely majority white and liberal identity politics would have NO place. Instead, you have kids in Mexico and the US who glorify the cartels and pretend they're black so they can say they're brown

liberty4alll 7 points ago +13 / -6

I don’t disagree with what you’re saying. And well said too. You described the American way it ‘should’ be. The way it was. But you gotta wake up to the fact that this is a different landscape than back when immigrants came through Ellis Island. We can reminisce and talk about the good ole days when men were men, but being stubborn about your way or the highway is part of the reason why people who SHOULD vote conservative DON’T vote conservative. There are sick and twisted people voted into high positions of vast power, all because they did a better job of convincing immigrants that they belong here. Those evil people work their asses off to normalize pedophilia, normalize corruption, normalize government bondage, normalize socialism. And they’ll continue to destroy everything that is good and wholehearted and pure in this country if you keep dismissing the modern needs our non-white neighbors. This isn’t the 1850s anymore.

Fabius 13 points ago +15 / -2

I'll be the old guard then. When I'm gone what happens to this country is up to you.

If you want English as a second language in this country and endless waves of diversity until white europeans are a minority in the country they built, that's on you. But I'll tell you, it will be the United States in name only. We're already in decline, and our best days are behind us. What do you think we'll accomplish as a nation with 180 different languages spoken and every street you turn down has a different race and culture? How will we accomplish anything great when everyone is accused of racism or sexism or Islamaphobia or Xenophobia every 10 seconds? Notice they don't have these problems in ethnically homogeneous countries.

No friend, America's future is an endless discrimination lawsuit stretching into eternity as hundreds of ethnic groups try and carve out little enclaves for themselves from the rotting corpse of a once great nation.

Sting 5 points ago +7 / -2 (edited)

I think the point is that we use Spanish - because it’s what they speak - to get them to understand why they should speak English - because who else is going to tell them?

The young can be convinced by truth, can be educated about American culture and what it means and what it stands for .... or we can allow Spanish-only speakers to be the one and only influence in their lives.

Like it or not, unless immigration is ground to a complete stop (it should be), they WILL have enough votes to turn our nation blue. Permanently. We can try to reach them and bring them to our side on OUR terms (not by selling out) or let their masters control their minds uncontested.

If you were going to drop flyers on your enemy to convince them to defect, throw off their masters and join you, would you write it up in English based on principle or their own language so they could read why they should defect to your side?

liberty4alll 4 points ago +5 / -1 (edited)

E Pluribus Unum. United We Stand. Indivisible. One Nation Under God. Hallelujah Amen. I want all those things as much as you do. And it can happen once we get these backward policies out of our lawbooks. To do that, we need to reach out to our neighbors on their terms for the sake of the nation we so dearly love. It’s not ideal, it’s not what was done in the past, and it might feel scummy to you - but it’s either that or heil fuhrer Biden!

And for the record, I’m not advocating changing our language. Of course not. I’m advocating building trust with our neighbors who would otherwise vote for monsters, simply because they feel those monsters act more sympathetic than you.

DoYouBelieveInMAGA 3 points ago +4 / -1

This country won't last 100 years.

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Walrus_Tooth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I dislike having to pander and sell out our nation so people will fight evil. Those don’t sound like good people at all, and proves many horrible things folks say

Yucky 1 point ago +1 / -0

Add this to your list of past greatness:

We build the Golden Gate Bridge during the great depression in FOUR YEARS.

If you were to claim you could do the same project today in four years, you'd be laughed out of the room.

America absolutely was greater in the past.

lixa 7 points ago +8 / -1

English should be the only official language of this country. If you want to live here you learn it before you arrive. Nobody should be allowed to get by here without it. If I was going to other countries I would expect to speak their languages. I don't think they should cater to me.

Sting 2 points ago +6 / -4

I agree - but look at their young people: No one in their lives is going to tell them that. They were fed nothing but anti-American information since they were born. Who is going to tell them the truth? Their parents? Their complicit teachers?

If we tell them - in English - they won’t get the message and we are losing the war for their minds. If we tell them, in Spanish why they should speak English, some of them might realize that our side is right.

Churches that preach only to the converted don’t grow.

lixa 1 point ago +1 / -0

The problem is that by teaching them in Spanish you’re not treating them as American you’re treating them as Mexican (or whichever country) living on our land. I think we need to find ways to treat them as American, and bring them into our culture. Not to make them more separate. Either they should want to be American and that is why they are here or move out. Step one is no more Spanish or Chinese or whatever language in any official capacity (and we can tell them that in their language) and zero benefits that natural born citizens don’t receive. Then they have opportunities and freedoms within our system. I don’t think people can be told the truth to believe it, only shown the truth so they feel it for themselves. It’s not a quick process. We need to dismantle all the things that pander to them. And show them the true American culture. They are very hard working people, I think they can fit right in. We shouldn’t be concerned about losing votes- if someone doesn’t speak English they shouldn’t be a citizen and shouldn’t be voting. And if they are that’s the problem that needs fixing.

BasedMedicalDoctor 2 points ago +2 / -0

The problem is the US has no official language like many countries. We speak English more than any other language but we never actually established an official language. We should have (or still should now).

lixa 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep I know that, I’m saying English should be the official language and the only official one. That it isn’t is mind blowing!

splink 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, we did have a vote on English or German back in the founding days and English was chosen.

Persistence 5 points ago +11 / -6

Look you dipshit, we either judo throw their attempt to control us or we get fucking steamrolled by racism. I would mich prefer everyone to speak english but at this loint it is 100% unfeasible to do that.

axrevolutionai 6 points ago +7 / -1

I think it's unrealistic for people who came here elderly. I don't expect great grandma to speak English. Let her speak Italian, Spanish, Chinese, whatever

but anyone under 50 and kids especially by law should HAVE to learn English ASAP, set a time limit on it, and if you don't know enough by a certain date, you're out of here

coupgardener 3 points ago +7 / -4

Not sure what this argument about language is... you guys do know that it's possible to be fluent in 2 languages right?

FLOTUS knows 6.

thingaboutarsenal 1 point ago +4 / -3

It basically boils down to SpEaK fUcKiN EnGlISh! A real way to win people over, tell them not to speak the language of their family. The Cubans in South Florida are going to really endear to that message.

Fabius 2 points ago +5 / -3


Persistence 1 point ago +2 / -1

Dude getting all of them out at this point is 100% an impossibility. The best we can do is stop more, which suprisingly most of the 2nd gen ones agree with. Based on My anecdotal evidence its probably 7/10 hate illegals with a passion you cant imagine because they actually have to live with these retards.

Im not saying dont stop ollegal immigrants, just that our best option is teaming up with them since they are the only group left that values family and god. Them and the Muslims, who the (((media))) also conveniently tries to get us to fight with.

Isnt it kinda strange you dont trust the (((media))) regarding anything but somehow when it comes to mexicans and muslims, the two groups who have our same values, you suck their dick?

Stop and question why do they want to instigate a fight between us?

Perhaps we might see who the real enemy is?

Aroid 1 point ago +1 / -0

The media doesn't try to turn us against Hispanics or muslims. Quite the opposite, in fact. Many Americans hate them because they come here looking to conquer our nation.

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Fabius 7 points ago +9 / -2

It just shows your lack of knowledge of American history to say such a thing, which is typical in that you have no ties to the U.S. greater than a few decades, maybe less.

Somehow I don't remember "Italian as a Second Language" being taught in every public school in the nation.

coupgardener -7 points ago +2 / -9

Mexicans sure as fuck weren't passing legislation on what the school curriculum was in the 1980's. White people had full control of this country for over 250 years so don't blame me for the retarded decisions of your grandparents. I was born into this country and I'm trying my best to salvage the mess that whites made of it.

And as for having no ties, my family moved to California in the 1830s. We weren't pussies who only came to America once the streets were paved with gold.

If you feel threatened by another group of people, it's because you lack confidence in your own superiority. Judging by the lack of quality in your replies, it seems to be warranted.

BasedMedicalDoctor 4 points ago +5 / -1

No race should feel superior. There is only American vs Un-American. I’ve met tons of Americans of all races and tons of Un-Americans of all races.

Yucky 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ha! Well said. Love seeing the rancor on TDW. I love you all.

coupgardener 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, it's nice that we can actually have real debates on here and can say what we're all thinking. Despite all the talk about whites and hispanics in this thread, I don't think there is any real hatred, maybe just frustration.

The only group that I genuinely place above others are "Americans". It's my opinion that the demographic war has already been lost and we need to shift to winning the culture war if we really care about saving this country.

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axrevolutionai -8 points ago +3 / -11

Back to stormfront with you. People like you probably believe in one drop rule..yet you probably have percentages of African or native Indian in you like everyother wanna be Aryan who tries to act tough (when you're just a mutt like everyone else)

coupgardener 2 points ago +3 / -1

The first thing I said in this post was that I'm mexican. Are you retarded or did you just never learn to read? No shit I'm mixed race, detective.

axrevolutionai 0 points ago +3 / -3

I only saw the post, downvotes, and did not realize you were the Mexican poster.

then you were being sarcastic? I hope so, because Italians, Irish, and Hispanics face the exact same issues..we are technically white but our cultures are very different than Anglo Saxon culture. Italians and Irish thank God assimilated without losing their culture..but I feel it's already too screwed up for Hispanics. The rest of us who aren't brainwashed just need to vote Trump, live good lives, and hope the American way prevails

coupgardener 0 points ago +3 / -3

My apologies. Yes, I was being sarcastic about the micks and wops comment. My point was that we aren't the first or the last group of immigrants who got shat on when we first came to America. The Irish and the Italians both assimilated and I have no doubt that the same will happen with Mexicans.

The issue is that a bunch of people on this website are from red states and they don't realize that Mexicans and Asians are the most conservative people in California. Whites here are the ones dragging us towards communism and controlling hollywood.

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UpTrump 10 points ago +10 / -0

Too bad a majority of them vote blue. What went wrong?

coupgardener 12 points ago +13 / -1

Pre-Trump Republicans played 2d chess. They made it a huge campaign issue to deport illegals, but they never did a single thing to actually keep them out. Thanks to those geniuses, we got stuck with a huge Mexican American population that votes against their own values just because Republicans gave themselves the reputation of being anti-hispanic.

Take a look at how Cuban Americans vote. They won Florida for Trump in 2016.

thepilotofmoya 3 points ago +6 / -3

No we have a huge Mexican problem. Nothing American about them.

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Sting 7 points ago +7 / -0

I was born here of conservative immigrants who spoke Spanish and learned English immediately upon arrival.

Most of that generation and my generation vote red because of the lessons learned fleeing communism.

The sad fact is that - even among historically conservative Cubans - the young skews left.

The VAST majority of immigrants, even legal, vote Democrat. We have to turn off the pipes. Moratorium on immigration is the only answer, or we will lose our country.

Not maybe. Will. We will lose it.

MLGS 7 points ago +7 / -0

They're Natural Conservatives who then turn around and vote overwhelmingly for communists, every single time.

Sting -1 points ago +2 / -3

Partially because the only message they hear is from people willing to go to them in their language.

You can’t tell a nine year old child “here is why America is great and why you should learn English” if they can’t understand what you’re saying. Their parents aren’t telling them! We are giving up on “converting” them to Americanism if we let their minds get filled with liberal mush uncontested.

Stubbornly crossing our arms and saying we “shouldn’t have to tell them” is to give up on trying to win their minds to our side. They are children - they aren’t going to figure it out on their own if their parents and schools are giving them nothing but unAmerican drivel. We’re going to just cede the battleground because “we shouldn’t have to” talk to them in Spanish to show they WHY they should speak English?

Then who else is going to tell them?

Fabius 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're acting like they don't speak English. They do.

Speaking to them in a foreign language just creates division, and sets the cultures against each other. You should question why you'd want leftist tactics when all they've ever done is create conflict.

Americans speak English. It's actually patronizing to speak to Americans in a foreign language, as if that is somehow more acceptable to them than the mother tongue of our nation. You're creating division and conflict when you do that. Treat them like Americans and they'll act like Americans.

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Aroid 1 point ago +2 / -1

Hispanics are conservative towards their own culture. They're pretty liberal towards mainstream white American culture.

grassshrimp 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe many are socially conservative, fiscally socialist. I don't know, just speculating based on other South America, Central America Countries.

EvensoAmen 8 points ago +8 / -0

It starts with one. Do it!

Fabius 4 points ago +6 / -2

Why do they have to be hispanic?

coupgardener 7 points ago +8 / -1

I was talking about me since... well I'm hispanic. There's a really huge opportunity to win a cultural victory here in california if mexican americans can just be convinced to vote in line with the conservative values that they already have.

It's basically just us and the irish keeping the entire church system running over here.

Edit: Hispanics voting Republican would also have the bonus side effect of the Dems offering to build the wall themselves lol

Fabius 4 points ago +8 / -4 (edited)

well I'm hispanic.

This means nothing to me. Does it make you happy or upset that I'm not acknowledging your race?

There's a really huge opportunity to win a cultural victory here in california if mexican americans can just be convinced to vote in line with the conservative values that they already have.

You call them "mexican-Americans". Are they Mexican or American? Are these people incapable of hearing a message of conservatism from someone who isn't brown? Or is it more about race than conservatism?

You say they're already conservative, then the problem is they won't vote for white people. Right?

Sorry dude, but you're literally proving that all this "diversity" brings nothing but ethnic conflict. Why would I want a bunch of hispanics in charge in the country my ancestors built? Why would I want them in my country if they hate my race so much, that despite being conservative, they won't vote for a white person, and will only vote for a hispanic? Why am I civil to people who want the destruction of my race, in my homeland that my ancestors built?

I don't expect you to answer these questions, because the answer is that different races and cultures cannot live together in peace. THAT is human nature.

Listen, I'm sure you're a cool dude but your political prescription for me is that I should just let hispanics rule over me and shut my mouth. Why can't I have the same racial bias as hispanics? Shouldn't I be able to say that I want white people representing me, just as hispanics only want hispanics representing them?

I'm sure you're probably thinking, "These fuckers are racist", but this is not a view that hold alone. I'm just honest enough to tell you about it. The left feels the same way, whether they admit it or not. Hispanics feel the same way, whether they admit it or not (and lets be honest dude, you know hispanics want hispanics in charge, and ya'll aint too friendly with the blacks either.)

Sting 3 points ago +4 / -1

You’re 100% right about a lot of this. Fuck, I think we need an immediate moratorium on immigration NOW. My parents were born in Havana but I am American, my kids are American, and I don’t want Mexicans deciding their future.

The Mexicans are already here. They will - whether I like it or not - decide elections going forward. Unless they are rounded up and deported - which they won’t be - they will decide elections. Immigration fucked us.

Now, these Mexicans have children.

Their parents and teachers speak to them in Spanish and fill their minds with lies and liberal ideas.

That can continue uncontested - or we can speak to them and preach to them and battle for their minds. We can cede control to liberals who brainwash them or we can feed them the truth and open their eyes about why our country is so great and why they should learn English and why our side makes more sense and why they should abandon nonsensical liberal ideas.

We can fight back or just roll over and take it.

They are already here. They will vote. I would rather try to get through to their young people instead of surrendering more and more of them to the liberals that surround them and radicalize them uncontested.

Think of it this way: Liberals try to BLOCK our attempts to speak to them and get through to them. Why? And when has doing what liberals want us to do worked out for us?

coupgardener 2 points ago +7 / -5

Listen here, Fagius. I'm more American than you will ever hope to be.

You're projecting harder than R2 on Tatooine. You and your 4th grade reading comprehension couldn't even interpret my original comment correctly and immediately got defensive about race. Despite your immediate display of stupidity, I gave you an honest, friendly answer. Now I won't.

If you knew your head from your ass then you would have realized that CONGRESSMAN MIKE GARCIA, the man who this entire post is about, is a Mexican American who just pimpslapped a WHITE liberal cuck in the heart of Cucklandia, USA. If you want to make it about race then how about you grow a pair of balls and stop your white women from spreading their retarded commie ideas like they spread their legs. The truth is that you're probably some faggot virgin NEET who would rather blame his failures on competition instead of his own laziness.

ANYWAY... I don't give a fuck about race. All I care about is minimizing government, enforcing the death penalty for corrupt politicians, and empowering individuals by strengthening the bill of rights. The best way for me to do that is by fighting locally here in my state. My state is fucking California. So excuse me if I have to exploit every advantage I have available to me just to get a god damn toehold here. Yes, I WILL 100% absolutely play the fucking race card if it means removing these commie leftists and saving the State and Country that I love.

I bet you're from some deep red state and you've had it easy your entire life. Your whole neighborhood already agrees with your politics. Not mine. I've never been fortunate enough to have a single real life political discussion where I wasn't outnumbered by cucks ree-ing at me. I'm fighting an uphill battle every day to turn CA red. You? I bet you've done nothing but sit on your ass while allowing your state to go purple. Fuck off.

liberty4alll 3 points ago +4 / -1

I’m with you on this. Trump didn’t win by running the usual outdated and massively ineffective campaign. YOU CAMPAIGN TO WIN! By whatever tools God gave you! Our cause is right, and deserves more than just sitting back and bitching about ‘I shouldn’t have to cater to people because my ancestors didn’t have to’. What a crock of shit. California is desperate for men like Mike Garcia and yourself to shake things up. Anything to save our great republic.

thepilotofmoya 1 point ago +5 / -4

You sound like a dreamer or one of those people that thinks he's more deserving of the United States because our ancestors beat your ancestors and took it.

coupgardener -1 points ago +3 / -4

Your ancestors took it and then your generation gave it away for free. Congratulations on being a cuckold.

thepilotofmoya 3 points ago +5 / -2

I'm not giving shit away, dreamer. Now do kindly go to hell.

... continue reading thread?
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Sting 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m American from Cuban immigrants. Our young people are voting Democrat in larger numbers every year.

Breaks my heart but Cubans won’t be reliable conservative votes going forward. Numbers are turning pretty quickly.

Yucky 2 points ago +2 / -0


Get involved with your local Republican party at the county level. Meet people. Attend events. Get acquainted. They'll always be looking for high quality candidates. Hopefully there is nothing in your background that might disqualify you.

Go for it!

OGcentipede 1 point ago +1 / -0

You don’t need to be a fighter pilot - you need to be a fighter who fiercely represents constituents. That’s it.

BKav 1 point ago +1 / -0

DO IT, unless you are just shilling right now....then don’t!

tankmanban 1 point ago +2 / -1

Run as a democrat and say you're a Muslim and you're considering transitioning to a woman or man or to super woman.

BigFreedomBoner 1 point ago +1 / -0


krazikofiman 33 points ago +33 / -0

Here's hoping they don't steal it from you, Mike!

FaRmErX2000 27 points ago +28 / -1

I'm still waiting for Hawaiin Judge to rule on this matter

CurvedLightsaber 3 points ago +3 / -0

This meme will never get old. I’m not saying that sarcastically, it cracks me up every time.

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Neonentity 22 points ago +22 / -0


This is gonna freak the dims.

JuanTitor 15 points ago +15 / -0

I honestly think they only flipped it in 2018 because of fraud, but maybe not. Perhaps a lot of moderates in the district bought into the anti Trump hysteria in 2018, and have opened their eyes. Or maybe the Wuhan coronavirus kept all the dumb, easily manipulated people away from voting.

I do know that there are a lot of middle class voters in that district, so many of those that might have identified as democrat even 2 years ago might have realized how bananas the current democrat party is. I think a lot of people in even LA will secretly vote Trump in 2020 while talking crap on him. Like one of the main mods of the LA subreddit was eventually pretty upset with the shutdown, but then the hivemind went after him, and he probably recanted. But if he is aware enough to have seen the madness, maybe he secretly has pivoted off his never Trump mindset. Probably not, but maybe.

Inspector_Cheez 8 points ago +8 / -0

FOX friggin' News calling the House for the Donks when California's polls still had hours before closing DIDN'T HELP EITHER.

JuanTitor 6 points ago +6 / -0

As soon as the Murdoc sons took over, the ship started sinking, as they seemed to want to join the cool kids table. Maybe Tucker and Gutfield's ratings have made them see the light just some, maybe they even listened to some of Tucker's points, but I don't know.

lixa 3 points ago +3 / -0

I would like to see NO results until polls are closed in the whole country.

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JuanTitor 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah, no chance California goes for Trump, even with no voter fraud, but certain districts have a chance of going back, especially if fraud is cut down.

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JuanTitor 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have some friends in a band entrenched deep in the current LA hipster music scene, and yeah, everyone was PISSED about AB5. One of the guys is pretty conservative, but seeing all the crazy friends they have getting upset over it was refreshing; I guess most people are capable of reason once something personally effects them financially lol.

cciv 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, many were predicting a win for Smith, or at the worst a narrow loss. But if Garcia wins by double digits... ouch.

UpTrump 17 points ago +18 / -1

Not if the mail-in ballots have anything to say

Tomorrow on CNN:


JuanTitor 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wonder if fraud is down right now because the masterminds have bigger things on their plate. Defending Obama and Biden is far more important to their cause than one house seat, and with all that has come out, that is no easy task, even with all the money in the world.

Moreover, Schiff, who probably is a key person in So Cal voter fraud, has his hands full too; even Satan himself has limited intelligence and manpower. The bigger the lies and fraud, the more effort the attempted cover takes, so I don't think they had many competent spare hands. Oh sure, I'm sure people like Maxine Waters weren't busy, but the dem leadership knows that she is only good for putting in front of a camera to yell.

youknowthething 5 points ago +5 / -0

You make a good point. Focused and what the hell to do with Joepedo and team cover up.

Taupkek 12 points ago +15 / -3

Have they counted the "found in the trunk of a car" and "look what turned up at the airport!" votes yet? Because its not over until those are tallied.

CantThinkOfUserName 12 points ago +12 / -0

It's a 12 point lead, the dems have only pulled this off when it was only a 1 or 2 point margin in the past. Also this is a special election with another election coming up in November. The risk/reward to steal this isn't worth it.

Ragnar_Danneskjold 5 points ago +6 / -1

What risk though? When has the Left's attempts to use fraud, deception, criminal activity, or abuse of power ever had a risk component? When have they ever tried and missed and then been held responsible? They literally used the IRS to destroy conservative political groups, and then used the FBI to outright try to rig a Presidential election and get the oncoming President's appointees imprisoned. And we even know all of that now and where's the risk? None of them are going to prison. None of them are even getting fined. Each and every one of the ones responsible will get a cushy book deal, a speaking tour, and a job on a Leftist news talk show for a 7 figure salary. When there is no risk, there is no reason not to try. If you pull the fraud off, you win big, if you fail, nothing happens and you try again next time.

Consequences don't apply to the Left because they are the party of the State, and the primary function of the State is to protect the State. All the bodies responsible for dealing out consequences are dominated by the Left.

WinnerPlaysTCU 3 points ago +4 / -1

The risk was made much higher when POTUS started tweeting about it a few days ago. He set a trap. They could either lose it clean or meddle and get caught in the trap. Maybe they decided with everyone watching that the risk was too high

Ragnar_Danneskjold 5 points ago +5 / -0

But again, there's no actual real risk. Are they going to jail? No, they control the courts. Are they going to get fined? No, they control the regulatory agencies. Are they going to get "DESTROYED" on Twitter and YouTube? No, they control both of those and can ban and delete at will. Are they going to get called out by the media? No, they control that and will spin a narrative that they were the good guys all along.

All the people against them can't really be any more against them, and all the people for them aren't going to be persuaded not to since the Left controls every single method of conveying information to another person outside of directly speaking with your mouth to their ears. Public opinion and the historical narrative will be whatever the Left decides it will be, and there will be no legal or financial repercussions since all those in charge of dealing those out are fellow leftists. There is no actual risk. They've realized that James Woods making a scathing and witty Tweet and the Daily Wire or PJ Media writing an article taking their defense apart doesn't really matter. The people who read that stuff are already against them, and the people who are for them won't be convinced. Public opinion just doesn't really matter anymore. They can invent as many votes as they want to claim they won, then have their media and social media lackeys go out and make sure history remembers the narrative that they won fair and square and anyone who disagrees is silenced, investigated, or jailed.

The Left is immune from real consequences. I'm sorry, it hurts to see that and know it's true, but it is.

The only real consequence they're not immune to and that has any chance of stopping Leftism once and for all instead of staving it off a few more years is the one consequence we can't even talk about yet much less have the stones to implement.

Waicool -2 points ago +1 / -3

Whatever dood

UpTrump 7 points ago +7 / -0

Give them a few weeks

youknowthething 4 points ago +5 / -1

I don’t know how much more I can handle. If they pop the trunk on the LeBaron and people casting votes inside their coffins..speechless

grenades_and_ham 3 points ago +3 / -0

Did you say John Voight's LeBaron?

grenades_and_ham 2 points ago +2 / -0

Im feeling like Costanza now, JON.

MLGS 1 point ago +1 / -0

They couldn't pass off finding 15000 ballots in a trunk in an election with ~150k turnout,

rebelde_sin_causa 10 points ago +11 / -1

This stinks already. What, they just stopped counting and called it a night at 10 pm Pacific, with 76% of the vote counted?

SoldierofKek 9 points ago +9 / -0

My favorite part is the gaslighting. They said it was too close to call, with 75% of the vote counted he was winning by 60%. I'm sure all of the uncounted votes are all democrats

DarkRiver 9 points ago +9 / -0

Garcia should be vigilant otherwise Dems will bring in boxes from sunken Spanish armadas

HemRoidRage 6 points ago +6 / -0

Historically. Every time a libby tries to rewrite history it backfires miserably. Reclaim your state Californians.

yper 5 points ago +5 / -0

“We did make history this evening,” Garcia said. Republicans have not flipped a House seat in California since 1998. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

ImperialxWarlord 5 points ago +5 / -0 (edited)

I’ll believe it when I see it. He’s got a good 18K lead. About 13% iirc. But let’s see how far the Dems will go to win. Maybe his lead will be too great, maybe not. After all the previous stolen elections had a difference of 1-2% not 13%. God I hope I’m right.

tr808 4 points ago +6 / -2

They’re gonna rig this. Just watch.

Top-Secret-KGB-Agent 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s not over until the Democrats “find” a bunch of boxes of votes.

kidfromtheplayground 3 points ago +4 / -1

Right now he is some 80,337 votes and she has 62,998, I think they can scrounge up some 18K votes easily enough and steal it. Ballot harvesting is literally the legal Dem way to steal elections. Thats when they turn in the harvested ballots at the very end of the day so they are not counted until days after.

Cyer6 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have to believe Garcia's team and many conservatives are on the look out for any fuckery going on with the vote count. In fact, the whole nation is watching including Trump.

Fremium2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think they can scrounge up some 18K votes easily enough and steal it.

Then they could have done it to win in the first damn place.

ModsBanPaleos 3 points ago +3 / -0

God please

Nanteen 3 points ago +3 / -0

But wait what about the ballots currently being filled out at the California DNC office.

Those gotta be counted too.

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LArnix 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would like to see him win but we all know how this plays out. At least most of the country is on lockdown to watch it...

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doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Assuming that late-reporting votes do not change the overall result, an outcome that seems unlikely at this stage but not yet final or certain given the peculiar nature of California’s mail-in voting system."

Lmfao. Let's all pretend the emperor has the finest new silks on here. We all know the dems cheat like mother fuckers.

Bilabrin 2 points ago +2 / -0

We'll see.

Tardigrade 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is the most optimistic Ive been in a while that people are growing tired of the dems clown reign.

VetforTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Where are the missi g ballots the left will produce?

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FragoDelight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mike actually had ground game. Every day driving to work for the past 4 months or so (guessing here), saw regular looking blue collar folks posted up in the beds of their trucks near major intersections with giant signs for him.

The other girl? Nothing but shit slinging flyers in my mailbox. It was the same thing with the gal who beat Steve Knight - saw no shit slinging from Knight or Garcia, that nonsense is all one way.

MammasAlwaysRIGHT 2 points ago +3 / -1

Bring in the harvested ballots

MrTrumpsWildRide 2 points ago +2 / -0

How to win: Don't be a loser.

Take notes, cucks.

SJBHamilton 2 points ago +2 / -0

California has a HISTORY of flipping early results overnight. We have to wait until all the results are in.

Batman 1 point ago +1 / -0

But what can we do to stop states from going to mail in (cheat) by mail? Now I hear MN is considering it?

murderhornet 1 point ago +1 / -0

Vote "Ballot" Harvesting is legal in California. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_harvesting California "Republicans prepared to match Democrats on 'ballot harvesting.' Then came coronavirus" https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/04/28/california-republicans-were-prepared-to-match-democrats-on-ballot-harvesting-then-coronavirus-happened-1280474

MAG_n_KAG 1 point ago +1 / -0

"A model on 'How to Win'"

Its simple really. You just have to MAGA

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Lawless 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh this a very good sign imo

PresidentPreston 1 point ago +1 / -0

The moral of this story is that good candidates win, even in California.

....as opposed to just “having the right positions on issues,” I mean. Humans are emotional creatures, and as much as we like to think we’re rational and logical, we still make our decisions (especially the most important ones, paradoxically) on gut feelings and instinct.

When it comes to candidates, this is where the “I’d like to have a beer with him” criteria comes from. That stuff matters a lot. More than it should.

We don’t vote for robots, we vote for people. If you really only cared about positions on issues, you don’t need a human for that. Just have each Party program a Representative Voting Robot and fill it with all the platform points.

But that’s not how it works. We elect people, and so experience, character, and vision matter.

TLDR: Recruit and run better candidates and you’ll win more elections, even in California.

doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks I'm sure no one has ever considered this.