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grenades_and_ham 160 points ago

Fauci has been in a government advisory capacity for almost 50 years. He's swamp.

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Mr_Dr_Jullian_Dunbar 70 points ago

He wants piles of dead bodies, LOTS of media coverage, high paying government "research grants", and complete power over millions of peoples lives.

When this stuff sinks in, like it has with me you realize how sick these people are.

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yukondave 17 points ago (edited)

Remember Fauci is not an Actuary. Why are we asking him anything about probability? He does this All from the safety of being able to blame Trump as well. No accountability.

Here is a really stupid quote from Fauci last week:

“I’ve looked at all the models. I’ve spent a lot of time on the models. They don’t tell you anything. You can’t really rely upon models.”

Fauci is not an Actuary. I dont ask my plumber about farming or my tailor about auto repair. My company sells life insurance. We still sell life insurance. Do you now why. Because you dont ask doctors to do statistical models. Somehow all of the insurance companies knew we would not have 2 million deaths in the US or they would have stopped selling life insurance. Instead they are having bumper sales of life insurance.

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Block_Helen 9 points ago

Good points. But it's also good to remember Greenberg's Law: "Don't ask the barber whether you need a haircut."

The barber will always tell you that you need a haircut.

And the epidemiologist will always tell you that you're going to have an epidemic and it's going to be bad. That is the end point of their usefulness. After that, you gotta get others to tell you what the best steps are. Actuaries can help.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 3 points ago

Right. We also need real numbers and current graphs. Models that can be reworked every day. They keep bringing out that same discredited chart. Dr Birx has said the initial models were based on China (?) and Italy. Why not throw out both and use a model based on South Korea and Germany? And include Sweden as a data line for comparison (since they are not shutting down their economy). Then include USA real numbers...

Then, to create actual context, overlay annual flu deaths. This would go a long way to helping everyone have a better perspective, something other than We Are All Gonna Die.

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Block_Helen 1 point ago

Yep. Worst case scenario models haven't come to pass anywhere, even in the hardest-hit regions. Why are we even talking about them?

We're not even counting CV deaths in the same manner as we count flu deaths. Flu deaths are historically underreported.

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Block_Helen 14 points ago

Trump is in a bind right now. Fauci is giving him bad advice and I think Trump knows it. But it would be politically dangerous - and would add to the panic - if Trump dumps him.

I think the way forward is to bring in more people with positive news about HCQ/Z-pack and ivermectin and whatever else is working. Let the good news take the stage. Get the supply ramped up (it's almost there). People want successful treatment - the holdouts will eventually have to give in.

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WinstonSmith1984 13 points ago

Agreed. He is a bureaucrat, through and through, incapable after 50 years of thinking outside the bureaucratic safe space. But I do not believe he wants more people to die.

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OneBreathe 5 points ago

Why not? Lotta of money to be made off death

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WinstonSmith1984 1 point ago

I choose to attribute his incompetence to a life time of bureaucracy in the absence of any proof to the contrary

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JGirl 2 points ago

I don't think he wants people to die anymore than the weathermen on the news want people to die when a tornado touches down. But for some reason, they get so invested in tracking it and ratcheting up the tension, that it seems like they forget that real lives are involved, not just eyes on them on the TV screen. I think Fauci is like that.

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WinstonSmith1984 1 point ago

That makes sense as well. A combination of basic bureaucratic culture and "this is what my office does; I'm busy!"

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nothomo 11 points ago

it's absolutely what he wants

he's financially invested in remdesivir. he doesn't want chloriquine curing his "market"

you haven't noticed that he never says it works not a single time, only that "from the reports he's read" everything is still anecdotal and he "cautions against" trusting anything unproven

meanwhile he's instructing the president to wait for proof over and over and over

the left always says trump never listens to his advisors (they're completely wrong of course) and in this case they're provably wrong

fauci is getting desperate now. if other countries start saying chloriquine works he's up shit creek. he can't control their media, he only has a pipeline to ours and he knows ours isn't 100% authoritative like china. eventually it's going to seep. he's banking on making lots of money before that happens

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SordidPontification 3 points ago

The double-blind randomized trials for HCQ are almost laughable at this point. We already have a control. We know what happens when people don't have any kind of intervention other than supportive care. Once they're on a ventilator, their chance is 50/50.

I can understand approaching this with an abundance of caution, but the profile of HCQ is well known. It's been around for a long time. The only question is whether the outcome is better with it than without it. It's also amusing because Remdesivir has less anecdotal experimental data than HCQ because it's an experimental drug. It's also incredibly difficult to manufacture.

This whole thing is frustrating to watch.

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jhutto 1 point ago

He wants to wait years for multi stage double blind trials and long term effects to be known before he can agree to any treatment.

I don't think he wants lots of dead, I just don't think he cares.. He is looking at a different point.. If we push a bad treatment it could harm people. My point and many peoples point is he should run the numbers. He is talking about hundreds of thousands dead through the course of this pandemic.

  1. Hydroxychloroquine and azathioprine have been proven to help, not a 100% fix, but help, with low number of complications. Why not let it?

  2. with 200k projected dead in the next 2 years I have to ask, how many of them would have died anyway? Data out of Germany, Spain, and elsewhere seem to indicate somewhere between 96 to 99% of the dead were already terminally ill.

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Staatssicherheit -30 points ago

Do you actually believe this or are you just blowing off steam?

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Luvmyhub75 36 points ago

He and Dr Birx have relationships with Bill Gates... that says enough!

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1776ThereIsaidIt 41 points ago

Anyone else notice how giddy Gates is over a pandemic?

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nastyn8 23 points ago

Fauci also dono’s to the Clinton Foundation... he is the scum of the earth, and the only embarrassment is that Trump has to allow his little bitch ass to speak at all.

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Staatssicherheit -43 points ago

That says enough, indeed. I don't think you are joking. You are being serious. That's frightening.

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Bouldabassed 18 points ago

To a spectator who has no specific opinion, I can't say you're offering what I would consider to be a compelling case. Just going around like "wow, you really think that? That's scary" makes you look like a complete tool.

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Staatssicherheit -11 points ago

Maybe. I'm just tired of arguing ridiculous points like Birx is evil because she knows Bill Gates. Or Fauci wants to see piles of dead bodies. If that makes me look like a tool, so be it.

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Bouldabassed 12 points ago

I understand the exasperation, but it only makes you look like a tool when you dont provide anything to counter it. Being so supposedly offput at how dumb someone's opinion is only to leave no reasoning isn't a good luck. If their opinion is so dumb, it must be quite easy to disprove.

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Arwyn3x 32 points ago

The very least Fauci wants is to limit the medicine uses against Covid-19 to patent medicine produced by companies he favors, so that we have to pay $1000/dose instead of $0.50/dose. That and enough deaths that we all agree to get the Gates/Soros vaccine.

The least, the very least, a well intended person would have said was "lets give it a try" - Fauci especially, since he knows this combination of medicine has been used against viral epidemics and has worked.

And further, Fauci knows Doctor Didier Roualt is a world renown specialist on communicable diseases and not a voo-doo doctor whose peer reviewed studies are a hell of a lot more then anecdotal.

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OneBreathe 3 points ago

BIG. PHARMA. FAUCI.

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Rodrigo 1 point ago

WELL SAID! As the resident Congressional representative of Islamic expansionism said, "It's all about the Benjamins!"

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Staatssicherheit -14 points ago

At least you are providing a motive other than "he wants to see piles of dead bodies."

Ok, financial motives. That's reasonable. How much money does Fauci stand to gain from making the $1000 drug the standard of care over the $0.50 drug? Is he a stock holder in Giled? How does he actually gain money? Beyond that, is he so evil that he would cause mass deaths in order to make some money?

The people you dislike are not 1-demensional evil, mustache twirling villains. Even China's evil acts are rooted in non-evil causes (wanting to protect their export economy for the good of their citizens). Start viewing people as people and stop ascribing movie villain motives to their actions.

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jigglyp33n 6 points ago

People used to believe in evil, that's how we got motivated to fuck up the Nazis.

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secrettrumpthrowaway 7 points ago

People still believe in evil but they’ve been trained to view it through the lens of capeshit and Harry Potter

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Block_Helen 3 points ago

In other words, imaginary evil that only special people ever get the chance to fight.

Instead of an everyday occurrence that we all need to fight.

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Bouldabassed 6 points ago

You are way too optimistic. While I can agree people are way too quick to jump to one dimensionality, there are some shitty people out there. No one is truly one dimensional, but people can get themselves to do and believe just about anything in exchange for self gain.

I'm not saying I buy the whole Fauci is bought by big pharma and will sacrifice thousands of lives for a big payoff, but dismissing it outright for no reason other than "no one would be that evil" is simply naive.

Similar to communist China. You really think that regime thinks much of its authoritarianism is actually for the greater good of its citizenry? That's laughable. Most of it is to quell rebellion and maintain their stranglehold on power. The CCP knows if they are ever ousted it will mean the heads of the party leaders paraded on pikes through the streets.

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Staatssicherheit -6 points ago

Would you sacrifice thousands of lives for a big payoff? I wouldn't. I don't think anyone here would. And I don't think Fauci would either. Is that being too optimistic?

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MSNPC_Snooze 16 points ago (edited)

Respectfully, yes. He was using meds off label during SARS with success. Suddenly this crisis requires a year long cycled lockdown and endorsement of Hydroxychloroquine 12-18 months out because off-label use is suddenly wrong? His motives don't matter at this point. He's not acting in the best interest of the country.

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jamesfinmadison 8 points ago

If you spend your entire lifetime viewing these pandemics as mere acts of nature that can't be controlled either way, then yes, people being elevated to positions of power via politics and money that would be less idealistic and more narcissistic, system friendly, makes sense.

Your naive world view is that there is an organizational hierarchy not controlled by politics, power, money, and human nature drivers.

Trump is an enemy of the system for that reason. If you can't see the system, well, why are you here?

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Bouldabassed 4 points ago

It's not a bad take and I would be inclined to agree but I do think it's a bit weak of grounds to be so offput by the opposite opinion so as to say its frightening.

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Staatssicherheit 1 point ago

Attacking Fauci with with wild, outlandish accusations (he wants to see piles of dead bodies) just makes people want to defend him. And insulates him from actual valid criticism.

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sharthappens 4 points ago

Any power the government has is not good. We've seen it time and time again. Stop giving so much credit to your keepers.

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Staatssicherheit -3 points ago

No. I will always assume people are rationale human beings with rationale motives that does not involve being evil just to be evil.

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WinstonSmith1984 2 points ago

Not sure why you are being down voted to hell for a comment like that.

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ThirteenPercenter -4 points ago

This is a pro trump group. Trump is in the government and has lots of power. You’re nuts.

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DJTrump2020 5 points ago

You sound as stupid as the people that say "you can't be anti-establishment and a Trump supporter, Trump is the establishment". No, Trump is in the government because we put him there to fight the government. We want less government. We don't care if Trump is the head of the government, that doesn't automatically mean we support the entire government, he was a grenade we threw in there. People like Fauci, people who have become career bureaucrats, are the deepstate. They're who we oppose.

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cjcivicx 2 points ago

Way off topic, but TESD Fan?

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kag-2020- 16 points ago

The CDC is literally advising doctors to presume they have the China Flu. Their data is laughably gamed.

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2016again 7 points ago

And the doctors are filling prescriptions for themselves for chloroquine.

orange man bad. chloroquine bad!

Info to the sheep.

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Staatssicherheit -6 points ago

Are there signs and symptoms of covid that doctors can presumptively diagnose covid while they are waiting for the swab results? Or should they wait for the swab results before giving HCQ?

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kag-2020- 11 points ago

I'm talking specifically about cause of death. If you were on your death bed and had a cough, they are being told by the CDC to presume they had it. No test result required. Completely fake data and they use it to destroy our country.

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Staatssicherheit -14 points ago

Do you actually believe it's as simplistic as having a simple cough on your death bed? It's other symptoms including fever. It's CT scans showing interstitial pneumonia. Doctors aren't idiots.

I've read their guidance. It said to go ahead and put covid on the death certificate if the doctor thinks it is covid, pending the swab results. After the results come back, they will make any corrections.

There are actually people here who thinks Fauci wants piles of dead bodies because he is friends with Bill Gates (who presumably loves death too). Which is fine. I'm more concerned about the Hodgkinson types who would act on these beliefs.

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HilarityComplex 8 points ago

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?

COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.


Any pending results of tests are exactly that. Pending.

All of those pending cases are currently being reported as new covid-19 cases as well as to the death rate.

Many cases aren't even expected to be confirmed according to the cdc's document.

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Gingersmom2009 7 points ago

Fauci consistently either downplays, or switches gears and doesn't reply to SPECIFIC questions regarding the HCQ/Z-pak treatment. He has the results and approval of the global medical community - but somehow he can't go all in. There is no money to be made in cheap decades-old generics. And now Ivermectin is being shown to kill the virus in 48 hours or less. COVID 19 may in fact be a parasitic infection and not a virus. (Malaria is parasitic as well.). Fauci and Birx are not on the right side of this - and they need go.

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Vegans4Trump 15 points ago

He works for China. He was in charge of the aids crisis and messed that up the same way he's messing this up. China used this virus to get ahead of us because our economy was doing great and there's was suffering. And Fauci is in charge of it

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry 13 points ago

He is a Hillary Clinton synchophant.

He cannot be trusted, in his current role.

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2016again 6 points ago

Very UN oriented, he is.

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2016again 5 points ago

So sad. But "they" are concerned about the earth. They look at humans as though we were cattle. i can't stand the man.

I would bet everything, including my life, that that mf is on chloroquine.

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ADAM_SCHITT 3 points ago

So basically he's never actually been a real doctor?

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MusicToMyEars [S] 94 points ago

Luckily our courageous President is hydroxychloroquine’s best cheerleader.

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Mr_Dr_Jullian_Dunbar 63 points ago

Absolutely.

Someone NEEDS to get this idea to GEOTUS as a recommendation:

  • catch it early on
  • drive up testing facilities that people dont have to leave there car -wait 15 minutes for the tests to come back
  • they come up positive give them a "grab bag" of the wuflu cocktail (aka Trump pills)
  • tell them to go home and call the clinic in 72 hours

Then TURN THE FUCKING ECONOMY BACK ON - THIS SHIT WAS A PSYOP FROM THE GETGO

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HockeyMom4Trump 20 points ago

This is the plan we need in in place. Let’s fire Fauci and get some people with common sense to run this show.

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Whoopies_tds 19 points ago

I hear-by nominate this Pede as Surgeon General of TD.win 👆

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NotProgCensored 3 points ago

Seconded

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Kanxo 3 points ago

The current problem with this plan are the first two steps. In my area (Southern CA, highly populated) testing results are STILL taking 7-10 days.

No idea why or how this is even possible but it's true. Where are all those 15 minutes machines going? Or even the 24-48 hour tests? I'm guessing it's a bottleneck at the state level because... well, CA obviously. That or maybe they need to deplete the 7-10 day tests first?

So if I ever get symptoms I have to go to the hospital to get these $1 drugs? I'm not waiting to get on a ventilator or 7-10 days before I try something that highly likely will work at the mild stage but what other options are there? Reality sucks.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 4 points ago (edited)

Call your doctor, your PCP. Smaller hospital pharmacies have a better chance of finding hydroxychloroquine pills than your local CVS. Get a prescription now, get in the queue for pills before you need them. They are currently very hard to find. I had to call four pharmacies before finding any after my PCP got me my prescription.

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MammasAlwaysRIGHT 3 points ago

I would also like the answer to this question.

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decaptcha 43 points ago

We would truly be screwed without President Trump having our backs at every turn.

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minotaurbeach 20 points ago

exactly, he earned my in-person vote

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thuggishruggishtrump 7 points ago

Yep, I've never voted before but I am this year, I can only imagine where we'll be if Hilary were president, hell we'll be answering to the one world government of the United Nations at this point.

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xiao_maga_part2 5 points ago

If we had a typical Republican-cuck in his place the media and dems would have eaten him alive by now.

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Mrsattorney 22 points ago

Nobody would even know about hydroxychloroquine/Zpak if POTUS hadn't spoken up to try to save lives.

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Mazelvote 12 points ago

Brand new results on 500 patients in Brazil to cheer about for President Trump : Hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zinc => no more deaths in the best hospitals in Sao Paolo following this treatment protocol !

https://thedonald.win/p/FMSuw77t/hydroxychloroquine--azithromycin/

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NotProgCensored 2 points ago

Very nice.

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avalonrose 6 points ago

He's got to make a mandate or executive order though, for all these jackhole medical people to be forced to use it when it's asked for. The epitome of evil not to give someone a medicine that has been proven to help. Off label prescriptions happen ALL THE TIME. Potus needs to address this issue ASAP, like today. And he needs to bring someone highly respected in the medical field with him on stage. It needs to be a BIG DEAL that all doctors are now advised to use it immediately on EVERYONE with a positive test.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago

And open up use for all medical workers who need a preventative therapy to keep them as safe as possible.

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Reddit2016 43 points ago

I wish we had some real reporters who would ask him this question on live TV. But we don't.

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Keiichi81 18 points ago

It's baffling to me how people here can continue to defend this guy as if he isn't Deep State swamp through and through.

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xiao_maga_part2 7 points ago

Instead we get that bitch asking Trump to clarify what the word "our" means.

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Cyer6 4 points ago

None of them are asking ANYONE about he HCQ, even though Trump has been pushing it hard lately. He's trying to make it a daily subject even though the press wants to dismiss it.

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HockeyMom4Trump 31 points ago

The whole thing is weird. We have shut down the entire state of MN. Closed beaches and pools for the summer. Destroyed families, Ruined our economy. And for what? We’ve had 24 deaths in our state from this virus. 24. The median age of the fatalities? 86.

Now I value life and I am sad for those victims and their families, but the response to this virus seems out of proportion. Death caused by alcohol is higher, and yet even during this pandemic we’ve kept liquor stores open because the Governor deems those essential.

I smell a rat. This whole thing is shady.

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PainCakes 6 points ago (edited)

I agree with your sentiment but I would agree that liquor stores are essential. Alcohol withdrawal is one of the few cases where the withdrawal itself is deadly as it can progress to an often fatal condition called delirium tremens that leads to severe neurological damage. Alcohol withdrawal is a very, very delicate process and abruptly cutting off millions of people can be a huge problem both for the people themselves but also the health care system.

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brother_red 5 points ago

I used to think Prohibition was simply the product of a bunch of goodie two-shoes churchy types.

Now, I've grown up and realized that alcohol and some people do not mix. Alcohol is responsible for millions of lives ruined - both the alcoholic and their loved ones.

I don't believe in prohibition - of anything - but I now see where the prohibitionists were coming from.

President Trump does not drink alcohol - and I am following his example. I don't miss it one bit, and in fact, my life is much better because of not drinking.

When you step back a bit, you can see just how insidious the whole drinking culture actually is.

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thuggishruggishtrump 3 points ago

Yet those same type of people who drink their lives away shame me because I use CBD.

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brother_red 1 point ago

It's all fun and games until you wake up one day in your thirties and you look like you're in your late fifties. Especially women. Alcoholism and too much alcohol party life young, means old and ugly looking much sooner. Or just dead from destroyed liver.

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thuggishruggishtrump 2 points ago

Thank goodness I never really enjoyed drinking much (I drink every now and then, like once every couple of months), even the few times I do drink I can see how people get caught up in it. I'll stick to hemp flowers.

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago

Oh, I don’t disagree. I am just trying to say that the government does not seem too concerned with deaths caused by alcohol, which are pretty high, yet for Covid-19 they have shut down tons of businesses and the death rate is not as high as many other causes of death.

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Lovepede 1 point ago

Shutting off industrial humanity is liberals/environmentalists sogging wet dream, and they're implementing it by this campaign of irrational fear and out of proportion response.

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Mazelvote 3 points ago

Fauci to cheer this => Brand new results on 500 patients in Brazil : Hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zinc => no more deaths in the best hospitals in Sao Paolo following this treatment protocol !

https://thedonald.win/p/FMSuw77t/hydroxychloroquine--azithromycin/

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MusicToMyEars [S] 50 points ago (edited)

rest of headline:

Note to Dr. Fauci: Stop Downplaying Hydroxychloroquine... It’s the World’s Go-To Drug yet only 27% of US Doctors Using It. Fauci May Not recommend it until 12 to 18 months from now!

ALSO:

  • Replace your worst case Models with latest info to reflect current numbers on graphs shown;

  • Overlay current & past Annual Flu numbers to give context to current Covid-19 numbers;

  • Remind the public that death rates are below 1% here and may end up being as low as 0.28% (according to your own paper published last week)

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Imransgarage 5 points ago

TFW millions of pedes are comparing to flu numbers that have already had the same issues as corona does now.

If they do this for corona, why do we not think that this same situation already applies to the flu numbers we have to compare to now?

It’s the same picture my pede.

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dakin116 5 points ago

Main difference is they don't run a flu ticker 24/7 on news outlets

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Cyer6 3 points ago

It is all in the media hype and energy they can get from something. The media can only go so long with a crisis before people start to get over-stimulated with the same thing every day. I'd say most folks are now sick of seeing 24/7 CV. I've tuned it out completely and just watch Trump's conferences. The yearly flu will never do what this CV has done for public interest and concern.

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Imransgarage 1 point ago

There was more than you think. Every pharmacy in the country+.

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AbrahamLincoln 36 points ago

Fauci isn't interested in any cure, he wants people to hide under their beds for 34 months instead.

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Gyrfalcon 11 points ago

At least thru the election.

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NotProgCensored 5 points ago

Boom!

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 3 points ago

He wants a "vaccine" that can't exist because this kind of virus mutates faster than the flu. It sounds like dystopian scifi, but they want you to get used to the govt forcing things into your body, eventually leading to things like brain chips. Similar to how they wanted to drug a country into being more accepting of "migrants."

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uvontheterrible 33 points ago

One thing that concerns me is that we've been using this drug in a clinical trial in NYC, supposedly on over 1,000 patients, for over a week now, and there has been zero information about any results.

Obviously there won't be any official data from the trial for quite some time, however, if the drug works as well as some have claimed, I would think we would be hearing tons of anecdotal stories from doctors and patients about people getting better.

Something just doesn't add up.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 43 points ago (edited)

There are tons of anecdotal stories. 2-4 doctors come on Laura Ingraham’s Show every night with them. See especially Dr. Stephen Smith. Plenty more on the internet. My own doctor (CT) is using it on me...

What concerns me is how Fauci is ignoring the World as well as these half dozen hospitals’ glowing reports. The drug is keeping people off respirators if given early enough. And the vast majority of people on respirators are dying. (An under-reported fact.) The drugs needed to sedate respirator patients suppresses immune responses in very negative ways.

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uvontheterrible 10 points ago

I don't really watch, cable shows, pretty much just look at what gets posted here. I've seen plenty of anecdotal stories, but not from the NYC trial. I would expect to see a lot more from there since it's close to home and such a large number of patients all being treated at once.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 20 points ago (edited)

Another worry: even knowing about the current study of 1500 NYC patients, the six hospitals using it in addition (with fab results), and the World’s doctors calling it their go-to drug... Dr. Fauci is still saying 12-18 months and talking about double blind studies blah blah.... as people are dying.

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HockeyMom4Trump 6 points ago

Double blind studies. So they are just letting half the people suffer who don’t get the Trump pills.

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Dominion_Weyoun 0 points ago

What 6 hospitals are using it?

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago

Smith Center for Infectious Diseases, Lennox Hill, Columbia Presbyterian, Plainview, Mount Sinai (also has begun convalescent plasma treatments), Stamford Hospital. Many more are involved in current study, I think 22?

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Dominion_Weyoun 1 point ago

Thanks, i only knew about Lennox

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GernBlanston1 14 points ago

If something/anything works the MSM will not mention it. It is that simple.

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Shakakka99 11 points ago

and there has been zero information about any results.

It takes time to doctor up phony results. Lost ballots however, can be found easily enough in the truck of any Dem's car.

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HockeyMom4Trump 6 points ago

Minnesota. Norm Coleman v Al Franken. Ballots were found in the trunk of a car. Almost all of them were for Al. Election stolen.

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WinnerChickenDinner 9 points ago

Henry Ford Health Systems is doing a trial of hydroxychloroquine on Detroit first responders as a preventative measure.

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/04/hfhs-leads-national-study-to-determine-drugs-effectiveness-in-preventing-covid19

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BuckyKatt60 5 points ago

You might want to check out Steve Bannon's Warroom: Panedemic youtubes. They interviewed a renowned oncologist from NYC who is working the front lines on this and he has said some hospitals that have instituted standards and protocols regarding Plaquniel, Zinc and Z-packs are seeing a very significant success rate. These successful hopitals need to get their standard of care protocols out to the rest of NYC and the country (if they haven't already). Start standardizing!

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Mazelvote 3 points ago

Brand new results on 500 patients : Hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zinc => no more deaths in Brazilian hospitals following this treatment protocol !

https://thedonald.win/p/FMSuw77t/hydroxychloroquine--azithromycin/

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago

Are they using the whole treatment? Z pack and zinc with it?

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StumpSmasher 3 points ago

When did they start? From my understanding it still takes 5 or so days to clear up.

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Dominion_Weyoun 0 points ago

Theyre probably giving it far too late

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StumpSmasher 2 points ago

I'm surprised CHO saboteurs haven't tried that yet, actually. Take a bunch of people who are already literally choking on their own lung juice, shove a pill down their throat and act shocked when it doesn't work fast enough to save them

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givethismanacoat 3 points ago

Are they giving the Zpac in conjunction?

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Gyrfalcon 9 points ago

And zinc? From reading the research 3 steps needed IIRC

  1. hydroxychloroquine - weakens/penetrates virus coating

  2. zpac - removes/treats opportunistic infections

  3. zinc - inactivates virus, needs to get thru coating, see step 1

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1776_DN 4 points ago

Most importantly, it will not be as effective on patients who are already in the severe phase of the virus. Intervention must happen before it gets that bad.

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MAGA_mantis 2 points ago

Upvote for the ching Chong China flu.

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Spezdrinksassjuice 2 points ago (edited)

How long have they been using it?

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realtorrich 1 point ago

Why put a negative "sad face" story on here with nothing to back it up and than not answer any follow up questions?

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mykillk 2 points ago

According to Trump on Thursday, it actually started on Tuesday, not the previous Friday. So it's been less than a week.

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Reddit2016 26 points ago

They keep pushing this vaccine BS, when they have medication that basically cures the Chy-na flu...what am I missing??

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HockeyMom4Trump 10 points ago

The $$$$$

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 2 points ago

The power etc. Go to banned dot video and watch the video with the big gas mask.

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Bax101 24 points ago

Fauci is Gates right hand man in this plan. He is a plant and wants to push the vaccine.

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Awesome 12 points ago

I think this is the most likely scenario, I think Dr Fauci is/was on his board too, plus the massive vaccine investments from Bill Gates into 7 vaccines lately for coronavirus.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 24 points ago (edited)

FYI - Columbia University in NYC has just begun a study of hydroxychloroquine as a preventative. They will give it to families with one at least one infected family member and see if it helps contain the spread. Good news.

I think we will need 1 trillion doses soon. It’s the cheapest and most accessible drug that is also effective in most cases.

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Work2gethrBiglyOrDie 3 points ago

Shouldn't they be adding zinc? What kind is best?

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MAGAlikethis 2 points ago

That's what the doctor in New Rochelle says. According to him, the zithromax helps treat additional problems, while the hydroxychloroquine allows the zinc to be taken in by the cells at a higher percentage.

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Imransgarage -1 points ago

It won’t slow the spread it treats the symptoms.

Let’s be realistic about this.

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MAGAlikethis 3 points ago

Yes, let's. It allows your immune system to kill the virus. It doesn't just treat the symptoms.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 3 points ago

...which in turn slows the spread. Especially the spread of death...

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Imransgarage 1 point ago

Ok it’s not that I’m not optimistic about it helping but I have seen nothing about it keeping from spreading. We can be optimistic and still logical.

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MAGAlikethis 1 point ago

Logically, there are always X amount of people living in each square mile of our country. This is directly related to the rate at which is spreads. This is why there is a wave.

Also, once your immune system beats the virus, you can't catch it again. And this is why although we will see additional waves of covid-19 later, they will not be near the size of what we are seeing now.

There's your logic.

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VDLPolo 23 points ago

But N95 masks are for carpenters and painters dr Fauci. Don’t you think you’re using them off label?

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PocketPosse 23 points ago

I am 100% confident in this drug for the simple reason that ABC David Muir hasnt dramatically told me that the Trump drug kills people for looking at it. They made news out of fish cleaner and that 15 person Chinese study, so I know they are itching to cheer for the cure's failure. They usually attack him even when he is right, so he must be apocalyptically right if they are silent.

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Supersaiyanbroly737 20 points ago

Fuck that cuck.

He was on record downplaying the Chinese virus a month ago. Then, in one of the briefings he also defended hls good buddy, the corrupt CHO director Tedros.

Fuck that guy.

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JudicialDredd 20 points ago

Fauci is a puppet.

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NostalgicFuturist 20 points ago (edited)

Yeah, here he is being alarmist and obstructionist (re hydrochloroquine), just like the MSM. Scarf Lady is also sketchy as hell. What kind of "expert" would say, “This is the moment to not be going to the grocery store"? As if every grocery store in America had delivery service. As if it wouldn't cause huge backlogs and long delays even where it IS available, while families go without food. Tone-deaf out-of-touch elitism. There's also plenty of suspect shit in her background:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSfP8sXtMbk

How many times are we going to see swampy people appointed to positions of power in our President's administration? Priebus, and Wray, and Kelly... The list goes on. I get that DC is 95% Swamp and good men and women are hard to find.. But why did Pence--the Silver Fox!--appoint two more Swampy Globalists? How are such people "qualified" when their backgrounds are so sketchy? Are there no non-compromised alternatives?

WTF

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HockeyMom4Trump 9 points ago

They need to start hiring more people from middle America that have not been living in the DC swamps.

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StumpSmasher 4 points ago

The sneaky members of the Swamp pretend NOT to be Swamp.

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NostalgicFuturist 19 points ago (edited)

Should you trust a man who fawns over Hillary and praises the director of WHO, a corrupt communist terrorist without a medical degree who deliberately caused many deaths in his own country and spreads lies for the country that owns his ass (China)?

The advice he gives is about as trustworthy as he is.

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MamaLlama4DJT2020 18 points ago

It’s been around forever, we know it’s safe, and it’s cheap. That’s why they’re not pushing it, there’s no profit in it.

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ZEEOHHSIX 16 points ago

I took that drug for months on deployment as a just in case type deal. No side affects just annoying. Like Trump has said what do we have to lose!?

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MusicToMyEars [S] 14 points ago

And yet he’s getting his own bobble head...

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/10873900-181/dr-faucis-face-will-soon

And may be voted People’s Mag Sexiest Man Alive. What a world...

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago

Ew. This is like Sports Illustrated destroying their swimsuit edition by throwing obese women in there.

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XirWokeMasterCuck 14 points ago

Please tell her (Hillary Clinton) that we all love her and are very proud to know her.

Warm regards, Tony

Anthony S. Fauci, MD

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MaxineWaters4Prez 11 points ago

Yeah don't use the established, cheap, safe, and nearly 100% effective drug we already have. Use some new, expensive, untested, and rushed experimental bullshit.

These fucking people...

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TRUMPets 11 points ago

I hate that Cuck!

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AngelMark 9 points ago

Why does Pres have this Hillary cunt licker up there with him at all ESPECIALLY if the Hydrochloroquine IS working??

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minotaurbeach 9 points ago

There is something swampy about this guy, like he has a hard-on for a higher death rate. Would not surprise me if he already has a stash of hydroxychioroquine for himself.

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Hillandbill 9 points ago

He's part of Big Pharma.

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Jabblemonkey1 9 points ago

Fauci is a swamp creature.

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RandomBoomer 8 points ago

If Fauci gets Covid you can bet Hydroxychloroquine will immediately be given to him and his family.

Hypocrite.

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Shakakka99 8 points ago

These things might assuage panic and save lives. Fauci's tongue still tastes too much like Hillary's asshole for him to do this.

A little too fucking coincidental this happened during an election year, btw. And only after it became apparent the left has not even close to a viable candidate.

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EnlightenedResident 7 points ago

Fauci is a little fucking bitch, such fem energy....

Re open the economy, keep NYC shut down

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mykillk 7 points ago (edited)

Holy shit, 51% of US doctors rated "nothing" as the best COVID-19 therapy.

They're listening to the MSM and it's killing people. Apparently TDS has infected the medical community too.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago

And so are blue state governors.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 7 points ago

Imagine if the people that trump brought on stage openly pushed HCQ. We would probably already be out of social distancing but we are going to continue doing the opposite until the little fucker is content.

Come on Trump kick the mother fucker out.

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NoMoreLies 7 points ago

Gee Dr. Fauci, I thought vaccines only prevent illness, not cure it. Maybe we should just give all the sick people vaccinations and see how it works out?

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Kekbewithus 6 points ago

“It's worth noting that Fauci has not spent any money to launch trials for hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine but has spent money on trials for Gilead's Remdesivir.

Incidentally, chloroquine is about .04 cents per dose internationally, which would come out to less than $1 per course, whereas analysts are predicting Remdesivir will cost around $1,000 per course.”

Fauci is a snake, it’s obvious where his motives lie.

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Pirate_Lafitte 6 points ago (edited)

This will all be over in a year and a call needs to be made now. If you are a general in the middle of a raging battle, you can't wait 12 months to decide to take a hill.

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Mazelvote 6 points ago

Brand new results on 500 patients in Brazil : Hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zinc => no more deaths in the best hospitals in Sao Paolo following this treatment protocol !

https://thedonald.win/p/FMSuw77t/hydroxychloroquine--azithromycin/

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NancyGhouloski 6 points ago

Fuck Fauci. For all the talk of "my decades track record" That means he dropped the ball for a -laundry list- of pandemics so far!

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RlzJohnnyM 6 points ago

THIS FUCKER IS IN THE POCKET OF GATES

WHO WANTS TO MAKE BILLIONS FROM A VACCINE

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Not_Even_a_Dentist 6 points ago

If I catch the Wu-Flu, I want the Hydrox, and if my doctor says no, I'm firing xer, and getting a new doctor.

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ubit 6 points ago

So far there are no consequences for blocking this medicine.

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physsijim 5 points ago

Can't have that. It might stop people from panicking!

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IYDKMIGTHTKY 5 points ago

They are making bobble-heads of this guy. It's getting a little culty.

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HockeyMom4Trump 3 points ago

Why would anyone want a Fauci bobble head? Seems like a weird business move.

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BetsyRossRocks 2 points ago

Yeah, they're made in CHY-NA

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Malfunction 5 points ago

Studies have suggested that coronavirus vaccines carry the risk of what is known as vaccine enhancement, where instead of protecting against infection, the vaccine can actually make the disease worse

So like a double yeti?

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Anyslogan2 5 points ago

Tucker summed him up very well. He is a ‘worst case scenario’ government official who has the luxury of not having to care about how this is affecting the economy or the future of this country. His job is secure. Trump has to balance safety with the survival of an entire nation and in some sense, the world.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 4 points ago

And here we are touting worst week to come. People are falling and dying of head injuries and it’s being shown as covid.

https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/2nd-coronavirus-patient-dies-in-lehigh-valley-he-was-61-and-from-warren-county.html

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MusicToMyEars [S] 1 point ago

A baby in CT died of SIDS, a week old. Had the virus on her. Headline read “First Child Dirs with Covid-19 in State”. No respiratory distress. No fever. Found dead in her crib.

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Khryn 5 points ago

These two sections are the most damning piece of evidence Dr. Fauci should be kicked from the Trump train:

It's worth noting that Fauci has not spent any money to launch trials for hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine but has spent money on trials for Gilead's Remdesivir.

Incidentally, chloroquine is about .04 cents per dose internationally, which would come out to less than $1 per course, whereas analysts are predicting Remdesivir will cost around $1,000 per course.

  • Huh. Sounds like someone has their hands in the wallets of big Pharma.
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TrumpTrainBot 2 points ago

WE JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING, FOLKS! THE TRUMP TRAIN JUST GOT 10 BILLION MPH FASTER!

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At that rate, it would take approximately 4.68 years to travel to the Andromeda Galaxy (2.5 million light-years)!

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Luvmyhub75 4 points ago

De Fauci is not to be trusted. I’m sick of his face!

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nothingberg 4 points ago

Zinc Ionophore

I wish they'd start talking about Quercetin, EGCG and Zinc. These work in exactly the same way as Hydroxychloroquine--they are zinc ionophores, carriers of zinc into the cytoplasm of cells to inhibit the rdrp enzyme the virus uses to replicate itself. Here this is explained in detail with NIH citations regarding quercetin

How Zinc ionophores (like Hydroxy|chloroquine, Quercetin) Inhibit the The Human Coronavirus from Replicating (and fight Cancer cells)


Spike S-protein binding

Quercetin actually works in 2 ways against coronavirus. As a zinc carrier, and also an entry inhibitor, according to the study that used IBM SUMMIT supercomputer to find the substances that bind to the spike S-protein of the virus inhibiting interaction with ACE2 receptors on cells, which coronavirus uniquely targets

Early research on existing drug compounds via supercomputing could combat coronavirus

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MusicToMyEars [S] 1 point ago

Excellent info. Thank you!

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christianknight 4 points ago

Fauci has toes to the Clintons. He is swamp.

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dakin116 4 points ago

Dude hasn't actually practiced medicine since the 80's, right?

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Genericwhitemale 2 points ago

the guy is 79 years old, why he’s up there and calling the shots still is beyond me

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago

If this were Game of Thrones, Fauci would be Littlefinger

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DX5_ 4 points ago

The one thing that frustrates me with this administration are the abundance of deep state advisers. Fauci is just one man in a long list of problematic people we've dealt with over the years. They should have dismissed him after learning about his relationship with Hillary Clinton. Does praising Hillary make someone incapable of an advisory role? Technically no, but 95% of the time yes.

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bikerbabe66 3 points ago

how about ToTrump - stop listening to Fauci - Hillary shill

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HockeyMom4Trump 3 points ago

This is exactly what we need to be doing. Good advice!

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 3 points ago

If DJT had hired a good AG, a good FBI agent, and not ever let little doomer Fauci and Scared Scarf Birx, we would have been better off. He hires the wrong people. I wish he would just fire them all and run it himself, it would be a magnitude better.

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mumblenuggets 3 points ago

The suppression of the cure is Democrat mass murder.

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Rodrigo 3 points ago

For whatever reason Fauci refuses to acknowledge that Hydroxychloroquine with Zinc has been reported successful against COVID-19 by many unrelated Medical authorities who do not know each other, and who are on different continents. Fauci - and numerous others - seem to be angling for a financial jackpot for Big Pharma. Not an utter surprise, since Big Pharma bankrolls politicians on both sides of the aisle. May be it's because a generic version of Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc would not generate a tidal wave of cash for Big Pharma. Even the Lefties in anti-Trump France are demanding that the Macron Government approve the use of Hydroxychloroquine be approved to treat COVID-19.

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KekistanPM 3 points ago

"BuT CV iS mOrE cOnTaGiOuS tHaN tHe FlU REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!"

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And_Im_Kenny_Rogers 3 points ago

I'm curious about how many deaths this country has per day and if that number has gone up significantly through this pandemic. I'm trying to figure out to what extent COVID-19 is replacing other deaths that would've happened. Does anyone know of a site out there that tracks overall deaths day by day and goes back a year or more?

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MusicToMyEars [S] 1 point ago

Excellent idea. It’s part of what I’d like to see every day on Dr Birx’s charts. I doubt comprehensive numbers in all categories will be available for a year. But we are charting real time annual flu deaths and those should be on her charts now. As context.

I did put a chart together regarding non-Covid deaths last year in the US:

https://thedonald.win/p/FMOFOzGq/much-needed-context/c/

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ShalomRPh 3 points ago

This hydroxychloroquine saved my life. I'm still in hospital but I can breathe again.

I don't care if you call it anecdotal evidence or what. It freaking works, or I wouldn't be here posting about it, I'd be down in the damn morgue.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 1 point ago (edited)

Most excellent. What other treatment did you have, including doses? Hydroxychloroquine 1000mg? Zpak 1000 mg first day, 500 mg after? Zinc? C? How long before symptoms improved? Would love to know.

Stay well...! Let us know when you’re discharged!

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ShalomRPh 2 points ago

Before hospitalization I was on Zelenko's protocol (HCQ 200mg twice daily, zinc sulfate 220mg once daily, azithromycin 500mg once daily, supposed to be 5 days but I quit the zithro after 4 because it ws giving me diarrhea).

In the hospital, they gave me HCQ 400mg once daily, plus IV cephtriaxone 1gm and doxycycline 200mg (? not sure on the dose of that) twice daily. This was from Sunday night until Thursday morning when they discontinued all that. Also methylprednisolone IV for 3 days, maybe 2, don;t remember. By now I'm back to the meds I came in on (heart stuff etc).

Took from Sunday night until Tuesday morning for me to start being able to breathe again. Still on oxygen, thry might let me go today or in the next couplee days.

Sorry for typoes, pain in ass to type with pulse ox on my middle finger

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago

Thanks for the details. Excellent share.

And so glad you are on the road to recovery. Think you will give blood after full recovery to share your hard won antibodies?

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ShalomRPh 1 point ago

Thinking about it. I hate needles. Might do it anyway. They're only looking for plasma, not whole blood. Still needs a needle though. Ugh.

(One way you could tell just how damn sick I was, was that I let them stick me as many times as they wanted without protest. It's like the phobia went away for the duration. Now I shudder when I think of it.)

My wife is also considering it. She thank G_d wasn't affected as badly as I was, she didn't need hospitalization, and she was never officially confirmed positive: when we went into the hospital (she was released, I was admitted), they tested us for about 15 different viruses, including 6 varieties of coronavirus, but not SARS-CoV-2... they retested me on the third day of hospitalization, which came back "detected", but she never got the official test. They just assumed that she was positive, so I dunno if they'll be interested in her plasma.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago

Fascinating. Thanks for getting back. Surprising how sparse antibody testing is. Yet it’s all still so new. Encourage your wife. Preserve your own blood for now. :-)

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10FeetHigher 1 point ago

Do you have COVID-19? Congrats on the improvement!

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aloha_snackbar22 2 points ago

Dr "Doom and Gloom" needs to step the fuck down.

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RandomBoomer 2 points ago

The Dr.'s first responsibility by oath is to save life and heal, not to accept deaths and postpone healing for what they think might be better for the population in the long run.

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Azarak 2 points ago

Anyone who actually dies from actual COVID because he/she didn't get the cure is paramount to MURDER. We are not talking about those that have an underling condition (like end-stage heart failure) that was going to kill them soon no matter what their COVID status.

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Liberty_Ship 2 points ago

I’m prepare to be downvoted because who cares. . To think Dr. Fauci wants ‘piles of dead bodies’ is seriously insane. Can’t tell if people are trolling here or what, but there isn’t enough tin foil left on the store shelves for all the hats needed in this thread.

Never go full retard.

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Arwyn3x 2 points ago

YES

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 2 points ago

I know we are going to have a press conference today. And I know some will get excited about trump beating down reporters. But that does nothing for me. Zero. Zilch. Nada. I make no money from that. I get no joys over it.

I need him to say this is over and that fuck face Fauci and fuck face Birx can go bitch but the American people need to work. That makes me money. Destroying Acosta makes me no money.

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rplgn 2 points ago

I dont like how health is being politicised. To what good, may I ask?

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RedAltoids 2 points ago

They'd damn well better be cranking up production of this stuff. Haven't heard a work about that.

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Trump2k20 2 points ago

He will never do that because it doesn't instill enough fear to keep people in their homes. Our government manages our behavior via the Nudge Theory and your suggestion assumes humans are rational and he believes we are not.

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jhutto 2 points ago

I'm a data person, not a medical person, so take this how you like.

Test results you see today are tests taken 3-5 days ago. Tests taken 3-5 days ago are from people who were exposed 5-14 days before that. Now you have rapid tests with results today mixed with those form days ago creating a type of bubble. It is very likely we have peaked, and the only reason we don't see it in the numbers is because of the way the numbers are generated.

If I am right, this time next week we will be half or a third of the daily totals we see today.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago

Excellent observation.

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PresidentPreston 2 points ago

Fauci’s main drawback, far as I can tell, is that he’s a doctor, not a decision-making leader capable of handling broad, intersecting dynamics. And that’s fine. But he needs to be kept in that lane.

For you baseball fans, this strategy is like asking your sidearmed, left-handed, 7th inning, matchup specialist to come out of the bullpen and not only start today’s game, but also start every game after that and then teach starting pitching to all the other teams in the league. How do you think that will go?

Fauci is a specialist in one sector of a huge society, and for some reason, governments and citizens have given him (and Birx, and a few others) the absolute keys to the kingdom to drive the overall, larger agenda simply because the “problem” happened to originate closest to their sector.

Doctors are important. But they aren’t capable of making decisions for 350 million people. That’s what we elected Trump and Pence for. The recommendations of doctors will always be narrow and always err on the extreme side of caution because that’s what they do. It’s what they know.

And it’s why their recommendations simply can’t be allowed to rule the day unchallenged.

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not_a_shill 2 points ago

Deep state is trying to hoard their supply of the drugs while they try to prepare a newsly patented vaccine they control the cost of. They know

Hydroxychloroquine works, because their Chinese handlers told them before the virus was ever released

Soon you'll see stories about how the white worlds hogging of the Hydroxychloroquine is racist against all the black and brown people who are suffering from malaria.

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Jabblemonkey1 2 points ago

firefauci

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TrumpOrTreason 2 points ago

So, literally, 3x fewer cases and deaths could happen if coward neverTrump doctors would care about their patients.

They’re literally killing people to spite Trump.

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MisterKpak 2 points ago

I wonder if Fauci just likes the attention at this point. Probably the first time people actually listen to him. Not his fault, its addicting.

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Block_Helen 2 points ago

Trump needs to get Fauci off the team. He is bad news.

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Kekbewithus 2 points ago

The top rated treatment by NY doctors at 42% was... “nothing.”

Only 25% of NY doctors are using Hydroxychloroquine vs. 62% in Spain and Italy.

How about we see the mortality stats of the hospital units recommending “nothing.”

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago

I’d like to see do many stats not shown. Hopefully they will be compiled soon. How many Covid-19 ICU patients had their annual flu vaccine? How many had a pneumonia vaccine? How many were on hydroxychloroquine for other issues? The list goes on and on...

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2016TrumpMAGA 2 points ago

The difference between Fauci and Trump is the difference between academia and the real world.

Fauci: We're going to have to have months of double blind trials, followed by ...

Trump: People are dying. We have evidence it works. Use it.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 2 points ago

Kudlow says we can go back when the health experts say we can, do when did we elect fuck face Fauci to be President???

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TwistedChemical 1 point ago

I can’t tell if this is some bullshit posted by left wing people so we parrot it and seem crazy. It certainly seems like it. That is ‘hating the dr’ and reee-ing him.

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Tayzi 1 point ago

Any pedes in the medical field? Not saying this is a miracle drug, but I'm curious if hydroxychloroquine can be useful for things like common cold, flu etc and there's larger reasons it's being suppressed. It's cheap, out of patent and apparently effective. Can't have that now can we?

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Druid_Con 1 point ago

Hes 79 years old he can't adjust or make a model if his life depended on it.

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GaiusOrangeJulius 2 points ago

can't make ANY kind of model.

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1776ThereIsaidIt 1 point ago

*#He'sWithHer

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Melthesender45 1 point ago

Also put up annual death rates of years and even decades past. That will include of where we actually stand based on population size and percentage of death rate.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 2 points ago

I put a chart together regarding non-Covid deaths last year in the US:

https://thedonald.win/p/FMOFOzGq/much-needed-context/c/

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Nadlers_Belt 1 point ago

Fuck off, Big PharmaFauci!

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guacisextra 1 point ago

Guys, I think we're forgetting one thing about being in a position that fauci is in. It's literally his job to be a naysayer and show the absolute worse case senario. Can you imagine how fucked we'd be if we had someone downplaying the ccp virus that started in Wuhan China? If someone told the president and the media "yea nothing to see here, drugs are being made, whatever. Not that many will get sick and like nobody will die" then we'd be F U C K E D.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 3 points ago

Money. We need money. Trump is President not Fauci. Let us work. Life has risks, so be it.

Economy > covid19 deaths

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FreeSpeechMaster 1 point ago

In our litigious country, I can see why Fauci won't commit to anything, until he's legally able to do so.

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january20 1 point ago

He's probably also on the payroll of big-pharma. Either that or owns lots of their stock.

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Lazerlylasers 1 point ago

Vaccine that doesn't exist yet is a game changer?

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 1 point ago

Does DJT know how much we fucking hate the cunt and Birx?

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OneBreathe 1 point ago

BIG PHARMA FAUCI AKA HILLARYS DOCTOR ADMIRER

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Omgwtfbbq 1 point ago

The FDA is always slow.

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10FeetHigher 1 point ago

The FDA has already approved it. It’s the swamp creatures who want you vaccinated and sick.

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Scroon 1 point ago
  1. Where's that 27% of US doctors stat coming from? I'm not seeing it in the article.

  2. That article is misleading...or badly written at best.

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IvIA6A 1 point ago

What have you got to lose?

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Thingthing22 1 point ago

This plus the flu (and everything else) is the problem. If it were the only thing people had to deal with we could've stayed open. It's not. It's an additional problem that massively complicates other things.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 2 points ago

Less than the flu. There ya go.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 0 points ago

Sorry but Fauci is in charge. Everyone who says it’s worse than the flu wants Fauci in charge. He is in charge.

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balko256 0 points ago

t_d is 9/10 times smart enough to sniff out media lies, but one thing media is still successfuly able to pull the wool over our eyes on is driving wedges between Trump's supporters and his advisers. Fauci has supported the majority of Trump's coronavirus measures, but they're able to blow up mild disagreements and still play Trump supporters against them and call them deep state, swamp monster etc.

It shouldn't matter if he was originally a hillary supporter either. Plenty of former Democrats here too. Fauci has supported the China travel ban and many of the measurements Trump have taken. Just because he's not a yes man don't let the media play you into turning on trump's advisors.

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MusicToMyEars [S] 1 point ago (edited)

It seems this thread has been removed from the HOT list. All views are now frozen. So you have gotten your wish that the discussion is now over. But whoever did this (if it was a moderator) fundamentally misunderstands what is happening.

I do not approve of the absurd character assassination regarding Dr Fauci going on in the thread. However, that is a symptom of the frustration and anger regular people feel about 1) government taking their jobs away and Dr Fauci’s perceived lack of empathy toward this economic crisis, and 2) Dr Fauci’s lack of support of hydroxychloroquine vs our President’s desire to get it available for everyone.

It is not us (participants in this thread) who are driving a wedge between Trump and his advisors. We do not have that kind of power. We are advocating for our lives, our jobs. We need this drug. We need to get back to work. That’s all.

Advocating for our lives and jobs is not driving wedges, it is not being a liberal shill. It is being an American. Plus, there was some life saving hints and important information in this thread. It was an excellent exchange of ideas and news.

Please do not turn this site into a two dimensional propaganda tool. It will lose all legitimacy to the normies, the independent voter, the mature thinker, etc.

The President has just ordered 29 million doses of hydroxychloroquine. I’m watching the Briefing now. CNN is driving wedges. Not us. Please don’t muzzle the discussion on this site due to some purity paranoia that working Americans wanting their lives back are somehow liberal shills. Or that people who want Dr Fauci replaced or put in his place are not supportive of President Trump.

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Ryanmaccdn 0 points ago

Agreed, I’ll take the advice of a well respected doctor over some 20 something cuck living in his parents basement in some do nothing fly over state.

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MAGAlikethis 2 points ago

I'll take the advice of 20 doctors over one Hillary-supporting doctor.