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weltbild 112 points ago

I read Nancy Pelosis district got poor sanitary conditions. Start there

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Isolated_Patriot 36 points ago

For as long as covid-19 exists.

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Meegs294 22 points ago

Forever*

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trumpORbust 44 points ago

No -- Cali is very valuable property, costal beauty, great climate for farming -- just evict the bums and pressure wash it edge to edge.... But never give up a square inch of American territory

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1776-or-1984 18 points ago

Pressure wash Cali edge to edge, you heard it here first folks. What a great idea.

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WOMP_WOMP_FAGGOT 4 points ago

That's a great username.

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Dead_Sennacherib 7 points ago

Also there are literally MILLIONS of good solid conservatives here. We don't have a voice, because we're continually outvoted/cheated by liberals - but we are here.

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Pray4USA 2 points ago

This!! Cali Pede reporting in!

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RobertSparks777 5 points ago

Hear hear!

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Pray4USA 2 points ago

Or it’s Cali pedes!!

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lancerprime 1 point ago

Now when you say pressure wash you mean flamethrowers right? It's the only way to be sure the virus is gone after all.

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grenades_and_ham 2 points ago

Hans bring flammenwerfer

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1776_Say_Can_You_See -3 points ago

put em all in a camp and turn on the gas

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christianknight 1 point ago

Forever

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lefty295 5 points ago

I heard CA is supposed to drift away from continental US in a few million years, can we speed that up in any way?

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Cyer6 24 points ago

No. CA is a beautiful state. Maybe just a big tsunami that comes in and washes away all the coastal leftists should do it. Leave all the based people in the Central Valley, northern and mountain areas to take it over.

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ohpleaseuhhelpame 26 points ago

California is a beautiful state..which is why we must fight to save it. Got to get rid of the political ruling class.

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Beardedtrump 16 points ago

This, we need to figure out how to win the next gov election.. we have enough people.

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christianknight -2 points ago

Not happening

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STEVE_HUFFMANS_BULL 6 points ago

Good news: the San Andreas Fault basically splits on that exact boundary

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K-Harbour 4 points ago

One solution (already done by President Bill Clinton in Utah): declare the entire coast and 20 miles inland a national preserve. Current residents have life lease, but no new property ownership.

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Marshall 1 point ago

Utah has a coast line? I've never heard of a lake having a coastline.

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BonerDonor 3 points ago

Yeah but then the ocean gets AIDS

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Cyer6 0 points ago

And the bubonic plague

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-REEEEEEEDACTED- 4 points ago

PERMANENTLY

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Kinestron 2 points ago

I live here but if that is what it takes to reduce progressivism, I'll take whatever hardship comes this way. I don't like all the people that are encouraging more government intervention and suspension of freedoms.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago

Just san Fran, LA and sacramento

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Liberal_gun_guy 5 points ago

She’s San Francisco right? Man fuckin FILTHY city. Makes Boston look like a gem.

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K-Harbour 1 point ago

Order $500 million in poop cleanup aid and send troops in to make sure.

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RoboChomo 0 points ago

I work in downtown SF, or rather I did before some Chinaman decided to eat Pangolin. I went back last weekend and rode my bike around downtown. Trash everywhere; far more than usual. Turns out normally the businesses all clean it up but I guess they are cutting costs.

Lunatics were everywhere, doing crazy people shit. Normally the background noises of the city muffles their insanity but with that gone you were now hearing every raving nutjob in a 2 block radius all at the same time. SPOOKY. Walking dead type shit.

SF IS ASSHOE

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SecularConserv 38 points ago (edited)

It's about time

I used to hate when people said "security theater"after 9/11 But what we have been doing has been quarantine theater

It makes no sense to have people in clean parts of the country not working and confined to their homes while people from the hotspots spread the disease throughout the country.

If quarantining people into a geographic area is a violation of their rights it's no more a violation of their rights than what is being done closing businesses and enforcing stay at home rules.

Tha There had been an approach that has all of the cost with none of the benefit.

The reason we have been doing what we have been doing is political not Medical

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_bryan 3 points ago

No more a violation than the abomination that is the current state of the 2A.

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patriotmaga 39 points ago

DeSantis isn't "whining", he and we Floridians are pissed. Over one million New Yorkers fled the State, mainly the City, and the number one destination has been Florida.

And if heat really does slow the coronavirus, Florida is in a good place. It's hot this spring! Next 4-5 days it will reach the lower or mid 90's in Central Florida.

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KekistanPM 27 points ago

They should be pissed...not just because some of those NYers may be carriers, but because traffic is about to get much worse and the amount of bitching about "rednecks" and "i like X better in NY" will go up about 10000%.

EDIT: Oh and also "wow, things are so much cheaper here...I think I'll stay and vote Democrat."

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_bryan 9 points ago

Well then you should start passing laws barring New York assholes from moving there. As we’ve just seen, you have the right to keep people out.

But you can’t do that because every R state is run by corrupt republicans.

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1776_Say_Can_You_See 2 points ago

Considering Trump relocated from NY to Florida that is a bad idea!

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_bryan 0 points ago

It's gotta stop somewhere, unless you want every mega-city to fill up the entire country.

If you do nothing, in less than 50 years we will have a billion people in this country.

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DoYouBelieveInMAGA 1 point ago

Yankees are the worst.

Florida isn't really southern anymore though. I mean, it stops in north FL.

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Razeontherock 8 points ago

As someone else mentioned, warmer climate alone doesn't stop Wuhan virus from spreading and killing people. I'd be very interested in studying the effects of sunbathing though! Several hours, many days in a row. Not to get a good early season base tan, although it would do that too. It might boost our immune system so much the virus doesn't stand a chance? We lose the ability to create vitamin D via exposure to sunlight with age. Vitamin D is a key component of our immune system. Who knows what else sunlight does? Sunlight is magic. A well designed test might show 25-50% reduction in infection and also that much reduction of symptoms in the already infected? Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Can't believe New Yorkers would be so irresponsible as to flee, except - of course they would. New Yorkers gonna New York.

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dukeofdoorcounty 6 points ago

When the sun is above 50 degrees from the horizon, you get UV B which helps you make vitamin D, and the UV is tough on viruses

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Ha! The sun rarely gets that high here. Just starting to now, but only briefly. Interesting fact

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dukeofdoorcounty 1 point ago

It will around noon in mid-April

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mrspaulrevere 4 points ago

There is some reason to think the virus doesn't like hot steamy weather. In those areas where it's humid as well as hot, it would be interesting to see if the spread begins to slow.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

I have read this too. In my experience extraordinarily low humidity is good for my health, while high humidity damn near kills me. My bias is to expect our arid west to be a good area to recover, but yes it will be good to have data on this variable.

Also, a pallet of goods in cardboard boxes, will direct sunlight reduce the time this virus can live on the surface? If we aren't careful we might just reinfect everybody simply from cargo.

I really like the idea of everybody having a supply of HCQ

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christianknight -3 points ago

Sun also damages your DNA.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

I'd take those odds. Sunshine State looks good from WI, lol

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Vests123 4 points ago

I'm glad that the temps will be hot...hopefully it will stop the spread of it.

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MustangManny 2 points ago

The virus or New Yorkers?

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Vests123 4 points ago

Hopefully both.

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White 3 points ago

Heat doesn't slow COVID-19 it seems, based on the fact it's spreading like crazy in areas in southern hemisphere that's already hot summer. Could be wrong, but that's what I heard from a couple sources.

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Vests123 5 points ago

What if it's from people flying to those areas? Like the New Yorkers who flew to Florida.

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White 1 point ago

People flying to Africa?

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Redheadgrrl 2 points ago

There’s a lot of Chinese business in Africa

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DisgustedByMisleadia 4 points ago

The Southern Hemisphere just entered their fall season.

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_bryan 1 point ago

Probably people assume that based on regular flu. But this is different.

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K-Harbour 1 point ago

Because it is a cold virus.

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christianknight 14 points ago

New York is such a dump. Never liked the people from there either.

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Snypr18 9 points ago

Right? Who knew that living in a crammed, over-priced, over-taxed, and over-policed city would give the inhabitants a shitty attitude?

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_bryan 6 points ago

They can’t even wash their hands.

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christianknight 4 points ago

To busy waving it around swearing at people.

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SecularConserv 14 points ago

Well yes I live in Florida

I think Ron should have been turning them around at the airport

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idonthaveahobby 10 points ago

My sister is a doctor in one of the Miami hospitals and is working in the COVID unit.

They have a surge mostly from the NYers that came down even after they were told by their doctors in NY to quarantine while they wait for their COVID results. Instead, they drove or flew to FL. Then, when results were positive their doctors in NY told them to report to the ER of local hospitals. So they just waltzed in to hospital, not giving a shit about anyone else.

Miami/Ft. Lauderdale is also getting the cruise ship passengers where S. America and the Carribean refused to let them entry.

She tells me everyday how bad it is. She does not have proper PPE. Has to wipe her equipment down each day and place it in a baggie in the COVID unit because it is all the hospital has. Yet, one hospital in NY is going through 77,000 masks per day. WTF.

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SecularConserv 9 points ago

If they had stayed where they were we could have flooded that area with PPE and whatever equipment was necessary

But this is the behavior we can expect now

It's no longer the United States. Now it's Central America Somalia Syria

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Razeontherock 6 points ago

Obviously! How irresponsible of New Yorkers to spread it like this.

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SecularConserv 2 points ago (edited)

I'm not saying in their position, if I had the option, I would not run

Natural survival Instinct

That's why it has to be enforced

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

I'd love to see it. Would've loved to have seen travel from Iran shut down immediately. We'd have less than 1/2 the cases.

Can't believe we let people simply detour to other places then fly in without quarantining them

Here we are ...

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thingaboutarsenal 5 points ago

To be fair. Whining about New Yorkers coming to Florida is a daily occurrence for all Floridians.

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RahkeemTheMachine 22 points ago

None of this is constitutional. I don’t give a shit, this is America. Imagine if the colonists just stayed inside because people might die? That should have just surrendered to Germany in WW2 it would have saved lives.

Freedom isn’t free you pussies, every liberty you give up today is gone forever. Have fun explaining to your kids when Mark Zuckerberg is telling them when and how often they’re allowed to play with their friends.

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LiberTerrarium 2 points ago

Rights can be suspended for a definite period of time with habeas corpus.

Did the colonists stay inside because of the threat of things like yellow fever and the other very real contagions that swept through cities regularly? No. Without refrigeration, modern vaccines, and remote delivery, people would die if kept inside. Instead, they banned people from coming in and from leaving. There is precedent.

You may not like it and it leads down the slippery slope, but yes you can be forcibly quarantined. It's in the same vein as national security.

Because the health of a nation is national security. Keep the citiots in the cities and let the rest of us form herd immunity, take chloroquine as a prophylactic, and get this economy going again.

NYC can catch up to the rest of us when it burns out. Just like yellow fever in the colonial period.

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RahkeemTheMachine 8 points ago

You know they’re talking about may or June to start opening back up right? How many people are gonna sit there with no income or food for 2 more months? The shit show hasn’t even started yet.

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LiberTerrarium 1 point ago

The question/comment regarded constitutionality. The point is, incoming riots, chaos, etc., the quarantine would be constitutional.

In terms of the incoming chaos you mentioned, I agree with you entirely; however, that is a practical matter to be considered along with constitutionality. In fact the practice model was already tried in New Rochelle with the Guard. The government is always 2 to 3 steps ahead of our civil liberties.

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Staatssicherheit 1 point ago

Quarantines are unconstitutional? Can you point me to the relevant part where this is illegal?

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jubale 9 points ago

You have the right to free assembly. Government is forcing people to not leave home.

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Staatssicherheit 1 point ago

The right to peacefully assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Does the first amendment invalidate all public health laws? Interesting topic. I'll have to delve deeper into this when I have time.

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RahkeemTheMachine 6 points ago

Which part of the constitution covers forced quarantine?

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Staatssicherheit -1 points ago

The legality of public health laws are derived from Article I.

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almond_activator 2 points ago

Powers must be explicitly granted to the government; unlike almost every country in the world, we're running a whitelist, not a blacklist, at least in theory.

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Barbs -10 points ago

You could end up killing someone by not knowing you’re carrying the virus and spreading it to a person who could have a critical reaction. Most likely somebody you’re close to.

If you’re fine living with that then nobody is stopping you from doing what you want, just keep in mind the longer you do that then the longer this plays out for all of us.

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RahkeemTheMachine 8 points ago

This applies to every day life. You can accidentally kill someone a million different ways, you don’t sacrifice your job and ability to feed your family over it

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 4 points ago

Given it’s no worse than the flu I’m fine going back to normal life right now

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BigCovfefe 2 points ago

Bad argument.

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ChuckedBeef 19 points ago

Watch for the numbers coming out of those areas to suddenly get a lot better. Citizens will not like this at all and their leadership will probably do all they can to avoid it.

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Razeontherock 7 points ago

Better? Infections are skyrocketing in FL, deaths are increasing too. It's spreading and now we know why. NY certainly hasn't turned the corner on this for the better. What areas do you refer to?

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DocOne 5 points ago

He's talking about the plaquenil/z pak trials curing people in the very immediate future, on the order of days now, and the democrats trying to downplay the success.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

6 days or less and virus free, yes. Which is why the NY Governor has decided to deprive infected people in NY of it, even though the lion's share of it in the whole Country is there.

To get it in NY you have to be hospitalized, at risk of dying, AND lucky enough to be the 1/2 of a clinical trial of it that isn't getting a placebo.

Cuomo is hoarding it. Just like ventilators.

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Patriotwings 14 points ago

Don’t give up in us in CA. Many Pedes here.

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ChuckedBeef 10 points ago

Probably the most outside of Texas and Florida, we just get drowned out by the voter fraud and illegal aliens. If you haven't noticed, CA leadership is the tip of the anti-Trump spear. The last 3.5 years have basically been California trying to overthrow the Federal Government, and the Federal Government needs to fight back.

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Razeontherock 6 points ago

No soup for you! Only wall!!

I kid. We love our CA pedes. I love my Sister in CA, even though she's a dumbass. Separately, she's become a liberal since moving there 30 some years ago. (Hopefully not a leftist) Makes it a lot harder to still love her, but I manage.

Fighting voter fraud in the whole Country is priority #1. Maybe that would turn CA around? At least in some areas?

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christianknight 9 points ago

Rs are trying this too. Its literally martial law.

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Barbs -1 points ago

You should check out the videos from India where they’re dragging people off motorcycles, or dragging them off the sidewalks, and caning them in the streets for ignoring the social distancing orders.

We’ve taken a very light approach so far because this is America, but we still have to protect people. That’s the President’s number one priority.

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Loyal2Liberty 3 points ago

The President's number one priority should be to uphold supreme law of the land: the Constitution. The average American citizen shouldn't even have to think about the federal government unless they import goods from other countries, when voting, and during wars with other nations. Individuals and local/state governments have ceded far too many liberties and responsibilities to the federal government. Downsize the federal government, end the FED, abolish federal income taxes/social security, and reclaim individual liberty.

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_-Th0r-_ 3 points ago

You forgot to add they’re emptying prisons.

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DeeboIsBack 2 points ago

Lol I've said it before and I'll say it again. I truly hope this virus only kills the stupid.

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Eric-CIA-ramella 1 point ago

Yet another example of not understanding community spread.

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The_VeryStableGenius 1 point ago

But you have to put a stay on arrests first!

That's why we banned guns!

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triggernometry 1 point ago

sending troops to arrest Americans for being in the wrong state.

But I thought borders were bad?! Why are Democrats such xenophobes?

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uvontheterrible 115 points ago

Do it. Quarantine the hot spots and let the rest of the country open back up. It's the only approach that makes sense.

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xiao_maga_part2 65 points ago

Plus all the leftist and media douches in NYC reeeing over this will provide endless entertainment. Trump can just tell them, "oh you like China's handling of the crisis, let's give you a taste of that in NYC".

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whocaresguy420 28 points ago

weld these liberal douchenecks into their apartment for "The Greater Good"

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McFatty7 5 points ago

"Rule for thee, not me!"

REEEEE!

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ordinary_love 1 point ago

Suddenly these folks will stop REEEing at the idea of being out by easter. Suddenly that becomes the greatest idea ever

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sustainable_saltmine 12 points ago

I dont live in NYC or JC or any of the urban areas. unless this is selective to just those areas and not the whole state, no.

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uvontheterrible 34 points ago

Unfortunately there are about 6 counties in NJ with a lot of people who commute into NYC and as a result those counties now all have high infection rates. Same goes for counties in NY and CT.

The entire NYC metro area needs to be quarantined, but I agree, it should not be entire states.

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sunnyingreenfield 15 points ago

Really hoping this does not impact entire states.

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saltyliberaltears13 16 points ago

I live in upstate NY we have a few counties with 100+ cases but most of the counties with farm land such as my own have less than 6. So I hope we don't get quarantined because of the shithole city. Would be the perfect time to divide NYS into autonomous regions

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Razeontherock 0 points ago

Most of the Country geographically speaking has Counties with 0 infections as the largest number. The second highest category is Counties with 1-4 infected people.

Give them a chance to get better! Realize how selfish and irresponsible you're being! NY State is HUGE, what is so important about leaving that it's worth spreading it to areas that literally have 0 infections?

Same goes for NJ. Not huge obviously, but still lots of really cool and beautiful places, with wonderful variety. Lock it down at the State border. This is not forever. HCQ has been donated by the millions, domestic production in WV has restarted and is scheduled to ship by late April.

We can turn this thing around, beat it, and get medicine to everybody that makes it no worse than a bad flu for 6 days. No dying, not even any side effects. Maybe we even develop herd immunity?

NY got most of the initial millions of doses of HCQ. Obviously Cuomo is hoarding it rather than using it. Just like ventilators. Keep your infections there! It'll be longer before us in rural areas of the Country have any substantial supply of HCQ.

Have a little respect for the rest of the Country!

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Mexicola1976 7 points ago

One note faggot.

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christianknight 4 points ago

Quarantine NYC.

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xiao_maga_part2 11 points ago

It would make more sense to quarantine the hot zones like New York metro and start opening the rest of the country for business. I would even be in favor of increased aid for the areas that have to be quarantined if that allows the rest of the country to return to a degree of normalcy.

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INK10 10 points ago

There's a huge hot spot in Ocean County NJ. One town with 236 cases as of yesterday. The people there will not stop congregating in large groups, they travel from NJ to NY like most people visit nearby towns. Surrounding towns are suffering because of these morons. Quarantine them, and the number of new cases will fall dramatically.

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friendofharambe 9 points ago

This is correct. This area is all Hasidic Jews. I have been unable to find a good article online to show this, maybe somebody can help. When I search, I just find articles about anti-semetism being prevalent. But talking to friends there, they say it is all because of the Orthodox Jews and their practices and disregard for avoiding gatherings.

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masshole3 3 points ago

Look up Lakewood, NJ. Big problem. Lots of Hasidic Jews who think they can do whatever they want. Not sure why they have to be so fucking defiant, but defiant they are..

FYI, Jersey pede here (yeah, I know -- user name doesn't check out -- originally from Massastupitts).

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Greenetarpaulin 1 point ago

Not sure if this is what you’re looking for. I noticed these 2 articles in the last couple of days. One is about Jewish in NJ and the second claiming that the death rate among British Jews is high as ell.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8160827/New-Jersey-cops-forced-break-wedding-Jewish-community-people-ignore-social-distancing.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8159589/Jewish-leaders-urge-community-preserve-life-amid-coronavirus.html

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

This is strange. With all the health concerns addressed effectively in the law of Moses, they should be especially keen to observe common sense precautions that limit the spread of infectious disease. They should be eager to sacrifice for the benefit of their fellow man i.e. neighboring towns, States, the rest of the Country.

If they want to gather in large numbers for corporate worship despite making their own sick, at least self-contain. This is just common courtesy.

Now I'm worried about the Amish communities out here. No known large outbreaks yet, maybe only because of no testing. Will they be equally irresponsible?

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INK10 2 points ago

I don't understand this either, but they kept their own schools open at least a week, maybe two, after the public schools shut down. I don't think it's the entire community who are breaking the laws, but apparently enough people are so that they have, at last count 236 cases within one town.

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INK10 1 point ago

As for the Amish, aren't they kind of self quarantined anyway? As far as I know they don't really mix with other people that much, they don't travel much. I'd say they're pretty low risk. They also tend to obey the law.

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xiao_maga_part2 6 points ago

DeSantis had to order a quarantine of people traveling down from NY, NJ and CT for 14 days in Florida to keep it from blowing up in his state.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 1 point ago

Texas governor did the same, although it's only being enforced against people arriving by air.

No border checkpoints.... yet.

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rn10950 5 points ago

Same with Kiryas Joel/Palm Tree NY. This is a map of Orange County, NY case totals as of yesterday. Notice Palm Tree, a town that is approximately 1 sq mile with a population of 35,000 people. I live in a neighboring town, the people in KJ (Palm Tree) are the same as the people causing the problem in Lakewood, NJ. I can 100000% vouch for members of these communities (as well as Monsey, New Square, Bloomingburg, and Williamsburg and Crown Hts Brooklyn) being morons, and quite frankly, assholes in most cases. This is something you have to see in person to truly believe, but these communities and their upper leadership of rabbis are some of the most corrupt organizations to ever exist, easily giving the Dems a run for their money. In KJ, the people vote according to who their top rabbi chooses. Therefore, in order to get 35,000 votes in Orange County, politicians often kiss the ass of KJ (and the other communities mentioned) because if they remain in good graces, there is a massive voter bloc to pay them off. If you oppose them for any reason, you are automatically anti-Semitic whether you mentioned religion or not. Here is an example of this in action, their town wanted to annex 500 acres from a regular town a few years ago, the locals STRONGLY opposed it, there were bills worked on by the NY legislature to control the annexation process, and Cuomo vetoed them, surprisingly a few days later, $250K landed in his campaign account. In fact, the OC NY executive has been pushing for a quarantine of KJ since last week. King Andy hasn't even mentioned it.

There is a lot to see here, if you are interested here are a few more articles describing this cult and their DEEP corruption:

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Gingersmom2009 2 points ago

Absolutely spot on. The police are still busting up weddings in Lakewood. That's why their numbers are through the roof compared to the rest of Ocean County. We're in NJ, but way south of Philly -- very rural, very few cases thank God.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

I'm familiar with Ocean County. Obviously it's not LBI since there's no Hasidic Jewish community there. What town?

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INK10 3 points ago

Lakewood. Now also Jackson and Toms River where Hasidim have spread out to. Lakewood had 236 as of Friday, Jackson 57 and Toms River 69. By Monday I'm sure those numbers will be much higher. Lakewood went from 144 to 236 in one day.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Thank you for the info. I will not chop off the feet of the messenger. My heart is heavy for this area.

My County here in WI, which has vastly more land area than LBI, more than 20 miles per side so more than 400 square miles, has 30 some cases. High for WI. Without spring break transmitting it from NY NJ and CT via FL, we'd probably have less than 5 like most other WI counties. Actually most have 0, but we wouldn't be that good anyway. West from here and it's like that all the way to the left coast.

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Maga_with_theD 2 points ago

From CT. Fairfield county is not representative of the rest of CT. Although I have seen a lot more NY plates on the highways recently.

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TJKong 1 point ago

"Fairfield county is not representative of the rest of CT."

From CT as well......Amen to that!

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

How are you going to do it less than the whole State? And people in NJ commute to the city all the way from the Delaware water gap. You can make the trip on I-80 in about 45 minutes. CT maybe has less long distance commuting, but again how do you lock it down less than the whole State? Practical solutions please.

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Based_Trumpster 8 points ago

So, the President does have the authority, gotcha.

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ForHumans 7 points ago

He's saying they can't quarantine a specific region within the state, only the entire states themselves.

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Gingersmom2009 0 points ago

That's not what I heard an hour ago. Portions of NJ & Connecticut.

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SameCookiePseudonym 4 points ago

I think OP is saying that Trump wouldn't be able to quarantine "only NYC" even if he wanted to; he can only quarantine whole states at a time.

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SecularConserv 5 points ago

This is a national emergency

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ianpatrick1966 6 points ago

Lets hope NY, NJ, and CA are quarrantined off. Maybe with a nice big beautiful wall.

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SecularConserv 0 points ago

We can send Snake Plissken in with the Trump pills

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USA_is_best 3 points ago

Someone call up Kurt Russell! We've got a sequel to make!

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SecularConserv 3 points ago

They've already cast Brie Larson

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Gingersmom2009 0 points ago

You obviously have NO idea what South Jersey looks like, south of Philadelphia. Rural, farmland. And VERY few cases.

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ianpatrick1966 0 points ago

State is blue, you're slightly incorrect -- I give no fucks about those places.

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PepeKek2020 5 points ago

https://www.cdc.gov/sars/quarantine/exec-2004-04-03.html

Title 42 United States Code Section 264 (Section 361 of the Public Health Service [PHS] Act) gives the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) responsibility for preventing the introduction, transmission, and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and within the United States and its territories/possessions. This statute is implemented through regulations found at 42 CFR Parts 70 and 71. Under its delegated authority, CDC, through the Division of Global Migration and Quarantine, is empowered to detain, medically examine, or conditionally release persons suspected of carrying a communicable disease.

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couranto 5 points ago

Is that you Cuomo?

Trump can't quarantine. He can only impose directives to keep us in state.

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Diana 3 points ago

The list of quarantinable diseases is contained in an Executive Order of the President and includes cholera, diphtheria, infectious tuberculosis, plague, smallpox, yellow fever, viral hemorrhagic fevers(such as Marburg, Ebola, and Congo-Crimean), and severe acute respiratory syndromes.

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/historyquarantine.html

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NotOkayToLikeAmerica 2 points ago

Nor research performed, but I thought that the CDC was given the ability to quarantine with force of law during the recent Ebola outbreak

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Fuck that. Quarantine the State borders. Can't separate the tri-state metro area, it's all basically NYC.

I know the rural areas of NJ well. I sympathize, but there's simply no other way of doing it. Lock it down. Many live in those areas and commute to the city. Equally impossible to stop the spread throughout CT. Locking down its border to RI has apparently already started. Look at the numbers for MA and obviously they've made no attempt to do this at their border with CT. Will it spread just as bad through VT NH and ME? Hopefully the low population density means no. Hope is not a strategy.

It's not cruel and unusual punishment to be confined within NJ State lines. Lots of area to enjoy! Have a heart. The rest of the Country needs you to be responsible. Spring breakers from your area have already brought it to FL, and from there it made it to my County in WI. We have 30+ cases in my County, whereas most WI Counties are still 0. The second most number of cases is WI Counties with 1-4.

These numbers hold true from here all the way to the left coast. Just a few population centers that have more. For example Iowa has 0 dead. 6 Counties with 5 or more infected people.

Stop spreading it! Give us time to get these people better. Let's beat this, please.

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Gingersmom2009 0 points ago

No one is commuting from Cumberland or Salem Counties into NYC to work. We're south of Philadelphia.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Sure. And I have no idea how many from there commute into the metro Philly area. Surely allowances will be made for interstate commuters, but that's also a major vector for spreading this highly contagious disease.

Locking down State lines is the only sensible thing to do. There's no other way to contain the Nation's #1 hotspot which still has 1/2 the cases in the whole Country.

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SecularConserv 0 points ago (edited)

By County

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NocturnalPatrol 2 points ago

Isn't that what South Korea did? No need to pull the plug on the entire economy. Just isolate the serious cases, and move on. This thing has been on the loose in China since November, and maybe that's why quarantining entire provinces didn't do anything. It had already spread to the rest of the country, and the rest of the world, by that time.

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HartianX 3 points ago

People also seem to forget the 2-4 week incubation period where it's spreading without symptoms. So when a case does crop up they've had it for a while.

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Qualmow 1 point ago

Will it matter with all of the truckers on the interstate anyway?

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Eric-CIA-ramella 1 point ago

You realize it's not that simple right? Unless you managed to keep all New Yorkers, friends of New Yorkers, and friends of FRIENDS of New Yorkers entirely locked in place, the virus will spread everywhere. The transmission rate is three times higher than the seasonal flu. If you hear of one case in your area, assume three more are infected and they don't know it.

NYC shouldve been quarantined completely in March but Cuomo was too much of a faggot because he complained about the same "violation of freedom" and that "the panic of the virus is worse than the virus itself". He was wrong, and now people are dying.

The same shit will follow for everywhere in the US that thinks quarantine isn't necessary for their community. It may be perceived as a grab on freedom, and it is, but the invisible Chinese-made enemy doesn't give two fucks if you're "free" to carry on with your daily routine or not.

Over half of the US will get infected, they key is to do it slowly and not fuck around letting it all happen at once. Take this shit seriously pede.

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TheOutlawPepeWales 55 points ago

We've been self-isolating. None of the task force guidelines carry the force of law. This is an extreme measure that should be strictly scrutinized and as narrowly tailored as possible, unlike the heavy-handed universal approach some leaders are taking where the data doesn't support such a drastic response.

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Mad_Hattie 21 points ago

Yet places are still threatening or actually arresting people who don't.

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SiBear117 19 points ago

Chicago for one. Lil' Mussolini the mayor and her henchman are threatening to take people into custody after a warning, then a citation.

A huge # of people are thumbing their noses at this highly unconstitutional BS.

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SameCookiePseudonym 6 points ago

Meanwhile leftists call Trump a dictator when he's actually been trying as hard as he can NOT to act like a dictator.... delayed invoking the DPA, refusing national lockdown, etc

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_bryan 4 points ago

You also going to drill a 3rd hole in your AR and make yourself a constitutionally protected machine gun? Oh that’s right nobody actually cares about the 2A.

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christianknight 4 points ago

Refuse the order and watch what happens. Police voluntell people what to do all the time. They lie about it too here in FL.

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_bryan 2 points ago

Good. Just like they do for the 2A.

If one can be infringed they all can be.

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cjcivicx 13 points ago

In Alaska, we have less than 100 cases statewide, and our largest cities are ghost towns...

It’s fucking moronic.

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Barbs -1 points ago

In order to know how to properly plan for this they need a baseline measurement to know how far the virus has spread. 15 days should be one day past the maximum incubation period for the virus, so anyone now showing symptoms should be self-isolating and taking all the precautions. Plus they haven’t spread it to more people.

Once they get this baseline then they can make better decisions on where the disease may pop up, and under what conditions, so a large portion of the country can safely return to work.

That seems to be the plan they’re working on anyway. The President said he’ll most likely have a decision on Tuesday, since Monday is the last day of the initial phase of the plan.

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uvontheterrible 24 points ago

Quarantine and lockdown are two different things as I understand it.

Lockdown basically means you need to stay home and only go out for essentials, but you still have some basic freedom of movement in your local area.

Quarantine means you cannot leave the area, so if NYC has a high infection rate, don't allow people to leave NYC and carry the virus to other parts of the country.

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magabigleague2 29 points ago

New Yorkers are going to be fleeing after this announcement. They're going to spread it even worse in the short term.

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uvontheterrible 36 points ago

They've already been fleeing, that's the problem.

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Isolated_Patriot 18 points ago

"Social distancing means driving six states away to infect my family, since I'm not working, right?"

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INK10 1 point ago

So true.

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USA_is_best 6 points ago

Yup. Texas is imposing a 14-day quarantine on anyone flying in from NY, NJ, CT, and New Orleans.

So is Florida, but its not really being enforced. The state is just basically trusting that travelers will listen and quarantine at their destination.

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INK10 2 points ago

Florida needs to do the same. So do the small towns in NJ that are being infected by willing carriers.

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bronnakus 7 points ago

Along with a trillion other things our mom cough cough i mean governor is forcing on us

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Cup_O_Covfefe 9 points ago

That's what they're responding to....states all over the eastern seaboard are raising the alarm.

Maine is taking action now too, I heard.

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magabigleague2 8 points ago

Is it time to build a wall around NYC?

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nothomo 3 points ago

<loads up and plays The Division again>

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Good! MA is wishing it had done that.

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ronburgandy 7 points ago

I was stuck behind an idiot with New Jersey plates driving through my neighborhood in Kansas at 15 mph.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

He was trying to spread it to as many people as possible, obviously.

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acada 4 points ago

My sister and her husband already fled upstate. They're in a house alone self-isolating, but people have been fleeing for a while.

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MichaelHall1 8 points ago

I saw this TV series. It wasn't very good and was canceled after the first season.

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Brucesky420 5 points ago

Yea quarantine means no one in and no one out without proper permissions. Honestly, I don't think it will do much good. It's already pretty much everywhere. Just be smart people

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SecularConserv 4 points ago

Yes it will make a difference

You can contact trace and contain it in areas with very few infections

We need to shut off New York with same as we are stopping flights from other countries

Why does it make sense to stop flights from Europe into the us but the let anyone from New York run all over the country

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Same for NJ and CT! Utterly impossible to separate these 3 States. The NYC greater metropolitan area includes all 3, and huge numbers of people commute from much of NJ and CT to NYC. No way to contain that except by isolating these 3 States as a group.

Within those States they can try to limit the spread into their more rural areas, but they still have more infections there than the rest of the Country. Seal those State borders!

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SecularConserv 2 points ago

I used to live in Connecticut so I can tell you it's very much a county thing

People from the Hartford area aren't going to New York or Boston very often

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

True! And long distance commute from CT to work in NYC isn't nearly as prevalent as it is in NJ. But where do you make the cutoff point and still effectively reduce the spread?

State lines seem the only practical way of going about it to me.

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SecularConserv 0 points ago

Counties

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Gingersmom2009 -1 points ago

Get some new material. You know nothing about New Jersey. Up the thread you claim to be from Wisconsin. South Jersey is FARM LAND. I live here.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

You're just being mean. And stupid. Nobody ever moved? Ever?

I was born in NJ and lived there for many years. I know most of the State pretty well. There is LOTS of farmland, including the NW of the State which is a beautiful area. Its not called the Garden State for nothing.

Pine barrens too. I've gone camping there. I've sailed the whole coast, including through OPSail '76.

POTUS has authority to seal State lines. If you're not commuting to PA, why would you care? And those that are commuting to PA as a lot of NJ residents do, I would expect exceptions to be made because POTUS is a smart man. No way to just seal off partial areas of States though, nor do we have resources to prevent those infected from crossing State lines while letting everyone else go. Of course that would be the preference.

These restrictions should be able to be removed before Memorial Day, so they wouldn't even affect anybody's summer plans. Let's ALL have a great summer! Cheap gas, every place will be super clean. The rest of the Country can't do that if people from NY NJ and CT keep infecting the rest of the Country.

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Imransgarage 2 points ago

Right tons of doofuses have been calling what we’ve been experiencing a “quarantine” when that only applies to a tiny fraction.

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_bryan 6 points ago

Rules don’t apply to New York liberals. Didn’t you know?

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Liberty-Or-Death 5 points ago

I'm in Colorado and went for a drive. We're supposedly on lockdown, but driving past Lowes, Home Depot, Sams, Safeway, etc, you wouldn't know. The traffic looks normal for midday.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Groceries and home improvement are essential! What about gun stores?

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Pedutoisacuck 0 points ago

Same in my corner of Western PA. A week or two ago it was a ghost town but the amount of traffic and people out on foot is beginning to look like normal. Except of course for 90% of the businesses being shuttered.

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ProphetOfKek 5 points ago

We are in a pseudo-quarantine. You won’t get federal charges for being out and about. Not sure what his regional quarantine means, but I’d assume it has actual teeth.

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gamingthisandthat [S] 40 points ago

I live in NYC BTW.. SHHH dont tell anyone that i love our president ;)

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SnipedYou 18 points ago

You are not alone.

Jersey City imposed a curfew on Bars at 10PM on Thursday 3/12, while NYC kept theirs open over the subsequent weekend. BDB and Cuomo are to blame for NYC rapid spread, they made some awful decisions leading up to this mess.

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Mad_Hattie 8 points ago

A family got arrested in NJ for having a wedding at their own house.

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INK10 11 points ago

I think they only got a summons. Same group is still congregating in large groups and basically thumbing their nose at law enforcement. Our idiot governor Murphy is encouraging their behavior by warning other NJ residents not to be Anti-Semitic. Seriously.

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SnipedYou 3 points ago

Isn't there a rule of no gatherings greater than 10 in NJ? I don't know what the consequences of breaking that rule are. Would they be able to have guests attend virtually? They have been disbanding Weddings in the Hasidic areas of Brooklyn too.

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Mad_Hattie 6 points ago

They did have 50 people but it wasn't a public place. It was a private home. (Jewish Wedding)

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lefty295 8 points ago

I live on Long Island, I'm furious Cuomo didn't cut off the city like a month ago. NY politicians always cater to the city, and you can see this with how long it took NYC to close schools and how the fucking MTA is still running full time and hasn't even cut their schedule yet.

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MustangManny 5 points ago

I live in the upper Hudson Valley area, and I'm also mad at Cuomo for that. Our area is flooded with NYC people, arrogant fucks.

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lefty295 1 point ago

Upstate (I know you guys don't call your area that, lol) is awesome. Love going up there.

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Mr_Beanths 3 points ago

I lived there for 5 years. It was ridiculous how many liberals said I was their “conservative friend” in order for them to try and appear open minded to other liberals.

Anyway, it was so easy to piss them off if you wanted to have a discussion. I don’t miss that place at all, but I do miss the food and spring nights on restaurant patios.

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AmericaFirstMAGA88 33 points ago

Quarantine all the demonrat hell holes.

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SecularConserv 5 points ago (edited)

The Democrat area where the infected are

Unfortunately how long will it take for one of those 9th Circuit Court judges to fuck the entire United States

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duckstuck 30 points ago

In before NY, NJ, and CT governors down play the virus and say that Trump is over reaching when he's thinking about instituting a quarantine.

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UndercoverFilmWorker 25 points ago

As a New Jersey resident this is the move.

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Cheynemak 12 points ago

NJ resident as well. I need more details of the quarantine before I agree this is the move. Is it just restricting access in/out? Will there be a predetermined time frame? Or will more measures be placed as well? I’m on the fence pede. All in all I just want this shit over with, and if trump and his advisors think this is the best move, then let’s hunker down.

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Razeontherock 3 points ago

Hi Cheynemak! I can give you some info:

there is no legal basis or precedent to shut down a whole community. Presidential authority can shut down State borders for purposes of quarantine. There is no predetermined timeframe, although the 2 week incubation period is a significant factor.

None of this affects life's necessities; you can still grocery shop, go to the Dr. Some places are restricting going out for a walk, which I think is bs. Easy to keep 10 ft away from anyone.

I've been studying maps by County. Here in WI and west til you get to the left coast, the single largest number of infections by County is 0. That's right, most of the Country geographically speaking has not one person that's tested positive! The second highest category is Counties with 1-4 infections. Shouldn't be hard to get those people better, especially once we get some HCQ which is currently being hoarded in NY. Cuomo is denying its use to infected people unless they're hospitalized and part of a study, which might mean half of them are on a placebo.

Thank you for your responsible consideration of all the available info. I'm not sure how effective State measures can be to stop the spread into rural areas? I think it's worth trying.

We should be able to responsibly get much of the Country open for business soon. That will greatly mitigate further economic damage. Not continuing to spread the infection is the bare minimum. If we could get a supply of 9 HCQ pills to every man woman and child in the US this would basically just be a bad flu it takes 6 days to get over, but no deaths or side effects. Everybody could go back to work except those in high risk groups might want to continue to self isolate. If we didn't give any HCQ to those in flyover country we might be able to do this with as few as 2 billion pills of HCQ. We don't have nearly that many. Millions have been donated to US, domestic production is re-started in WV with product scheduled to be shipped by late April.

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SheepleMaster 2 points ago

Makes you wonder why the leftists demanded testing kits and ventilators and opposed HCQ. They don't want this disaster over or resolved.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

True dat! A ventilator doesn't even increase our chances of survival much.

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SheepleMaster 1 point ago

I meant more that ventilators are harder to produce, deploy, use, etc. The left and MSM don't want an easy solution. They want us all locked down, obedient, force vaxxed, and tagged.

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sustainable_saltmine -4 points ago

as another NJ resident, nope.

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latinolizards4trump 9 points ago

As another Jersian, yes I support this move, if it means getting the fucking country back to normal.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Thank you!

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SecularConserv 4 points ago

I've heard that it's best to shoot the infected in the head

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Barbs 1 point ago

Ok Xi, calm down there bud, lol.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Don't believe everything you hear

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Mad_Hattie 21 points ago

I'm ready, I have enough popcorn in NJ for the upcoming shitshow.

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sustainable_saltmine -4 points ago

hope you're still getting a paycheck during all this. luckily I am but the longer this goes on the more businesses are going to close or lay people off to cut expenses and not just the people who work at minimum wage jobs. what happened to "the cure cant be worse than the disease"?

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Mad_Hattie 16 points ago

Your faux concern for my family is noted.

We will be ok despite your salt.

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sustainable_saltmine -4 points ago

faux my ass. and I'm not concerning.

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Mad_Hattie 6 points ago

I'm saying you don't give a shit about me or my family.

Which, you don't. You want to be right.

I did not call you a concern troll so don't put words in my mouth.

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aangler100 1 point ago

You can leave, if you go though 14 day quarantine.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Sounds sensible to me! Except, how would this be monitored? If anybody so quarantined were tested twice, once upon entering on the first day and sent back with a positive test, the rest tested 14 days later and allowed to pass if still negative - we just don't have resources to do that.

Lock down the State lines is the only practical means I see

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aangler100 1 point ago

My idea is the best idea

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Everyone's is! Lol. There's no way to accomplish it though. We're quasi putting everyone through a 15 day quarantine which will be complete this Monday morning ...

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aangler100 1 point ago

I know I have not been in 6 feet of anyone, I accomplished it. It is just that easy.

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Ultimaterializer 18 points ago

I live in NJ. This would be an incredibly dumb idea for those of us who aren't leftist communists.

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sustainable_saltmine 7 points ago (edited)

careful, saying something like this will get you labeled a "concern troll" and unleash a torrent of downvotes from people who get to live in red states not currently locked down. why those of us who support the guy cant once in a while disagree with him on something, even strongly, without getting hate on here is beyond me. it's not concern trolling, it's legit taking issue with something because you're in the affected group. all I want is to be able to just go back to my normal life, come and go as I please and not worry that some government decree says I cant go out unless its deemed an "essential reason".

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christianknight 4 points ago

I agree but wouldn't localized quarantines be better than a national one?

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Bullelk -2 points ago

Buddy I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. You aren't going back to a normal life unless more drastic measures are taken in these hot spots. The media against Trump and them using this virus is a hoax. The virus itself is not, however.

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Bullelk 1 point ago

Why

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Gingersmom2009 1 point ago

I agree. New Jersey is two separate states. I live way down here, 40 minutes south of Philly in the farm land, and compared to Bergen county it might as well be Iowa. There's a reason it's the garden state. You can't treat it as a single entity.

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keepwinning 17 points ago

And just like that, all the virtue signaling governors around the country will left their shelter at home

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GuacBowls 16 points ago

I lost my job Friday. I need this plan.

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sustainable_saltmine 19 points ago

this is unfortunately gonna keep happening, even to salary workers the longer people keep shutdowns and quarantines going. businesses cant go back to normal, owners looking to "trim the fat" anyway they can just to keep from going bankrupt. the 15day thing was fine but now it's taking care of those at risk and letting the rest of us move on. we cant stay in suspended animation while this virus "runs its course"

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dakin116 6 points ago

Fully agreed, im in IT at one of the labs administering the test but I wouldn't be shocked if I'm laid off if this goes beyond April

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SecularConserv 5 points ago

Harvard and MIT say it will only take 2 years

I wonder how many hundreds of billions will be giving to Africa over the course of two years

We just handed them 11 billion dollars

And 350 million to illegal aliens

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

15 days ends Monday. Everybody could responsibly go back to work with a supply of as little as 9 pills of HCQ, if we also knew enough z pack was available. I have no idea what our supply of z pack is. If we gave 0 HCQ to anyone in flyover country where there's 0 confirmed positive cases we might get by with as little as 2 billion pills of HCQ. We don't have nearly that many. We've had millions donated to the US, and domestic production has restarted in WV with product scheduled to ship by late April.

NY has most of our current supply and is hoarding it. They're prohibited from giving it to infected people unless they're at risk of death and also in the half of the clinical study not being given a placebo. Their number of infected vs dead reflects this strategy. They're down below 1% dead now, but still have nearly half the cases in the whole Country.

Sealing the State lines is the only responsible course of action, and that's meaningless unless you include NJ and CT. Maybe these 3 States can minimize the spread into their rural areas, it's certainly worth trying.

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nds19 15 points ago

Hmm, I disagree with the idea of any quarantine. If you're old or have a condition stay home. Take some damn personal responsibility. Suspending your natural rights in the name of a temporary (if at all?) security is a slippery slope.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Sealing the State borders is the only sensible course of action, and well within the law. Shutting down even one entire community has no legal justification or precedent, and lots of legal liability.

Returning to work responsibly will be tricky if we're not given a supply of HCQ.

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debi_birx_scarf 15 points ago

Forced to do the job of an incompetent NY governor.

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Bigtex15 -3 points ago

"Dems bad because dem"

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incogneato 12 points ago

Hope y'all got plenty of popcorn and diet covfefe, because I think we're gonna be watching the live-action version of Escape From New York.

Anybody seen Snake around?

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SiBear117 11 points ago

There are no major problems in Chicago or IL.

The hospitals are NOT overwhelmed.

There is no panic.

There is a hospital near me and it is quiet like it normally is.

Lil' Mussolini & Gov. Fat Boy are lying.

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Razeontherock 0 points ago

About 1000 confirmed positive in 1 County. That's a PROBLEM!

Glad to hear your healthcare system isn't overwhelmed. That's the whole point of all this "flatten the curve" stuff. It's working.

I agree your Governor (and my WI Governor) are being tyrants. They should be deposed like tyrants.

Opening stuff back up should be concurrent with getting people a supply of HCQ, IMHO. 15 pills is enough for both preventative use and to get you through if you do catch it. Can't we do that? If you get really sick go to Dr and get z pack and maybe a little more HCQ. I have no idea how our supply of z pack is.

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NPC1234567 11 points ago

And Los Angeles and San Francisco.

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RegularAmerican 6 points ago

This would be hard to do to LA because it's not so much a city it's an entire county of smaller cities and suburbs.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Not any different than NYC, except NYC sprawls over 3 States.

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SecularConserv 2 points ago

Roads can be blocked

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mrspaulrevere 1 point ago

Choppers and drones fly.

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aangler100 1 point ago

I think it will be by county. And mainly Target people who are not being safe in those areas. And if you want to leave you need evidence of 15 day quarantine.

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Copenhagen23 10 points ago

As long as I can maintain my bills then ok.

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friendofharambe 10 points ago

I live in the NJ county with highest number of cases. I go out of the house and am very careful so my elderly family does not have to. It is amazing the amount of people i see in stores or in gatherings.

Nobody listens to Murphy, because he has no claim to be able to care about life. Nobody listens to Cuomo for the same reasons. The average person inherently (even if subconcious) does not follow Democrats directives about life because they know they dont care about it.

Unfortunately we need the President to step in and do what Cuomo and Murphy can not accomplish. Block us off and let the country get through this.

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SD_Pede 6 points ago

Most people in NJ and NY are selfish douchebags anyway. I lived in Bergen County for a year after being in San Diego. Night and day difference in quality of the people.

100% they'll do whatever they want for themselves and then move into other states and fuck them up too. Pennsylvania needs a wall.

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friendofharambe 1 point ago

It amazes me how the area is so wealthy and the people so stupid. I am usually well behaved but when out for food and I see people wearing masks wrong or touching their face while wearing gloves, I yell at them to embarass them and say they are stealing them from people who actually need the supplies like docotors. Its quite fun to do!

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MAGALauncher 2 points ago

That’s because a good 90% of the 100k+ salary earners are corrupt pieces of shit and laws get broken and circumvented left and right. These little bullshit towns are all in bed with their local PDs. I lived in bergen county for a few years and The Sopranoes really wasn’t too far off with how fucked up, underhanded, and illegitimate most of the wealthy and powerful truly are. Hell there’s a town there that’s barely a square mile in diameter with it’s own PD, fire dept. etc. and the cops clear 100k EASY. All about who you know (and who your uncle knows).

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ForHumans -2 points ago

NY is already giving it to people

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Staatssicherheit 0 points ago

I don't think they have a placebo arm? I think it's all treatment arms. The malarial drugs, the HIV drugs etc. They are bending over backwards to get something out there.

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ForHumans 0 points ago

That's for the study. Any doctor can prescribe it.

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ForHumans 1 point ago

Oh, that's new. Bummer.

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RockyMin 0 points ago

That's only democrat governed states tho.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

ForHumans:

NY has most of the supply of HCQ in the nation and is hoarding it. Restricted from getting it unless you're hospitalized, at risk of dying, AND selected to the half of a clinical trial that isn't being given a placebo.

This strategy is reflected in the numbers: still almost half the cases in the whole country but deaths are now below 1% of the confirmed positive cases in NY.

Only sensible course of action in light of these facts is to seal the State borders, which necessarily has to include NJ and CT because the tri State area is impossible to control.

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Leiloni 9 points ago

Please not South Jersey. They have few cases and people cross state lines to PA and DE frequently just as a normal course of life. This would be a huge disruption and cause more problems than it would solve here.

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aangler100 2 points ago

I think it would be by county. Heck, the President maybe trying to get the Governors to do it themselves?

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Gingersmom2009 1 point ago

Yes. Didn't he just send a letter to the governors, like 2 days ago, instructing them to divide their states up by county - with 3 risk categories? I saw this on conservative treehouse I believe.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Leiloni Ocean County has a hotspot. More infections in one town than in all of Milwaukee. Spring breakers from NJ have already spread this to my rural area of WI. We're containing it. Most Counties from here west all the way to the left coast have 0 cases.

Please help us beat this!

NJ is only included because the NYC metro area is impossible to control. I was born in NJ and lived there for many years. I know the metro areas including Philly have massive interstate commuting and commerce. Allowances will be made.

What we mainly need is a supply of medicine to everybody. 15 pills of HCQ is enough to use both as a preventative and a cure if you get infected. That requires 5 billion. We have millions, with production restarted in WV and ready to ship in April. I have no idea how much z pack we've got but I wouldn't want to take that as a preventative measure.

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CaptainChrisPBacon 1 point ago

NYC is a cancer and he is trying to keep it from spreading to the rest of the Country. It is not like he said up and one day said they Quarantine NYC for no reason. NYC is a shithole.

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PianoPede 8 points ago

Thoughtful! We are lucky to have a real leader at the helm

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xiao_maga_part2 7 points ago

Ooh a real life version of The Siege.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Not so bad being quarantined to having to stay within your whole STATE.

There is no legal basis or precedent to shut down even one whole community. Nobody is prevented from life's necessities; grocery shopping, going to the Dr. Some places are stopping people from even going outside for a walk, which is bs. Staying 10 feet away from anybody is easy unless you're in an urban area, which is a whole different ballgame. You should still be able to go hiking in a State Park, for example.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Well that sucks. In all 3 States? Beaches would be hard to enforce 6' spacing. Regular parks might be too? State Parks? Should be easy to do that on your own! People may congregate at a trail head or crossing. Slow you down to keep your distance. Still pretty easy to do though.

Is this by order of Governor?

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tangerinemanbad 7 points ago

Well fuck this. I'm from ct and I think that's a bunch of bullshit.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

tangerinemanbad:

I lived in CT and my Brother has for 4 decades. Please allow me to explain why this is not bs:

most of the Country geographically speaking has 0 people tested positive in most Counties in the whole State. The second largest category is 1-4 people infected in the whole County. Please, let us heal these few people without barraging us with more infected people!

We can turn this corner very quickly throughout MOST of the Country if we just stop spreading it. NY has almost half the cases in the whole Country. The tri State metro area is impossible to control, so NJ and CT have to be lumped in with NY.

We could all go back to work safely Monday if we had 5 billion HCQ pills to give every man woman and child in the Country 15. We don't. (Assuming we have enough supply of z pack to treat all the sick) If we give 0 to those in flyover Country with 0 people tested positive and 9 to everyone else, we might be able to do that with only 2 billion. We have millions. Domestic production has restarted in WV, with product scheduled to ship in late April.

NY has most of the supply of HCQ and is hoarding it. Not even giving it to infected people unless they're hospitalized, at risk of dying, AND in the half of a clinical trial that isn't just given a placebo. In light of this, sealing the State lines is the only sensible course of action. This isn't forever. Should be over before Memorial Day. Plan roadtrips! Gas will still be cheap all summer.

Sailing is a great idea ...

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RicottaPrime 0 points ago

Why? This was almost always going to happen. It's why I got out of NY last week and headed south.

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tangerinemanbad 5 points ago

Well good for you. Sone of us dont have the option to just up and run,

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RicottaPrime 2 points ago

Exactly, so you stay where you are. Sounds like you wouldn't be leaving CT anyway, regardless of quarantine. So why get upset over quarantine? If I hadn't had the option to go south, I'd have fully expected (and accepted) that a quarantine was coming to NY.

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sustainable_saltmine 3 points ago

because how long is this going to go on? all anyone wants to suggest is more quarantine

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RicottaPrime 2 points ago

I'm guessing he'll put it in place until the number of daily new cases starts to decline?

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aangler100 1 point ago

That is the number we are looking for, unfortunately some states are rigging their numbers.

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Razeontherock 0 points ago

RicottaPrime, you, Sir, are an irresponsible asshole! Spreading it from NY all over the rest of the Country that has 0 infected people.

Unless you tested negative after a 14 day quarantine, in which case thank you for taking responsible precautions.

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RicottaPrime 2 points ago (edited)

Dude... What the crap? Why such a hurtful response?

I'm a young freelance guy who lives alone in NYC. All my work got cancelled for the next 3 months. I stayed inside my apt for almost 2 weeks; rarely went out except for food/groceries/going for a walk. I intended to wait it out, in the city, but the cases kept piling up and more and more things were being closed down. I have clinical depression/OCD, so this was not a good situation for me.

Over that 2-week lonely period, I was getting increasingly anxious and depressed, and my parents kept asking me each day over FaceTime if I was sure I didn't want to come down and ride this crisis out with the family in FL. Eventually, after a horrible panic attack, I caved in and told them I'd like to come home. They were thrilled and relieved.

I wore a mask to the airport, on the plane, and until I got home. I didn't sit near anyone at the airport or even on the plane; no one was in my row, nor in the row in front of me or the row behind me. I've now been home at my parents' for over a week, self-isolating. I have not gone anywhere. I've been terrified of getting symptoms, both for my own sake and my family's, but my parents keep reassuring me that I took precautions and did what I was supposed to do.

Also, why would I need to "test negative" after a 14 day quarantine? You do realize they only give you a test to begin with, if you have severe symptoms. And you also realize that even if I got symptoms and was positive, I'm still doing exactly the right thing: self-isolating.

So please, tell me how I'm an "irresponsible asshole"? Spreading it "all over the country"? I wasn't aware that going straight home to stay with my family was "all over the country". What is your problem??

... continue reading thread?
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Copenhagen23 2 points ago

I read that everyone will be getting an additional $600 on top of unemployment pay every week. That is the only way I can stomach this. That plus the stimulus check is just enough to make ends meet for the month.

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aangler100 2 points ago

You should be able to leave, if you can prove you are healthy and did a 15 day quarantine

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Impossible to "prove" unless it is monitored by health officials. Great idea but we just don't have the resources to do it.

Sealing the State borders of NY NJ and CT is the only sensible course of action. Should be able to lift those restrictions before Memorial Day so it doesn't even impact summer plans. Should be a great summer! Cheap gas, every place clean ...

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aangler100 1 point ago

For Americans working together nothing is impossible, nothing.

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sustainable_saltmine -2 points ago

yep and now the local national guard is going to come looking for you soon

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RicottaPrime 1 point ago

Huh? That makes no sense. What are you talking about?

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Cyer6 2 points ago

He's trolling. Ignore

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SD_Pede 7 points ago

He's going to shut down the airports.

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Cyer6 3 points ago

And he can shut down the interstates to everyone but commercial vehicles.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Commercial vehicles can be stopped too. "Essential businesses" gets harder to define that way. Obviously I want that unrestricted. I'd like to see interstate truck drivers given priority to get HCQ right behind healthcare workers, which I hope are already on it in addition to PPE head to toe.

If the preventative benefit works then they aren't spreading it.

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pizzzzaaaa 7 points ago

The NYC wall just got 10' taller!

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Infuriator 1 point ago

Quad bricks

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TrumpBrickBot 1 point ago

QUAD DAMAGE!

FOUR BRICKS! FOOOOOOOOUUUUUUR! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS CENTIPEDE IS ABOUT TO DOMINATE!!!

THAT'S 167135 BRICKS HANDED OUT!

We are at 23.5407478218641642017634080% of our goal to BUILD THE WALL starting from Imperial Beach, CA to Brownsville, Texas! Lets make sure everyone gets a brick in the United States! For every Centipede a brick, for every brick a Centipede!

At this rate, the wall will be 1837.82379793207793732144620 MILES WIDE and 489.796474760597558589856095 FEET HIGH by tomorrow! DO YOUR PART!

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tonightm97 7 points ago

For a country the size of America, you really need to do this. You can not lock down entire states and expect millions of Americans to stay in their houses. It's fucking impossible to police.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Sealing State borders doesn't mean you have to stay in your home. You're free to roam the State. Just don't spread the infection to other States.

NY has half the cases in the whole Country! Seal it in.

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 6 points ago

At this point who cares if we get it? It’s like getting the flu and just as dangerous as the flu.

No quarantines. Open the country back up and let us go back to work. We have a cure for the seriously ill.

This has gone too far by several magnitudes.

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Razeontherock -1 points ago

We do NOT have enough HCQ to manage this, yet. Mostly because NY has most of it and isn't even giving it to their infected people. Also, "seriously ill" = facing death with this stuff. A slow, miserable and panicked death that Drs are almost powerless to help. And it leaves you with permanent lung damage if you do survive.

This is completely avoidable.

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Gingersmom2009 2 points ago

That's why Trish Regan got canned. She said the same thing weeks ago.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Correct. However, NY having almost half the infected people in the Country is NOT. And they are spreading it throughout the rest of the Country, including where we were basically free from this virus.

Stop the spread! Seal the State lines, it's the only practical way.

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irongeek 6 points ago

Florida is getting flooded with snowbirds, mostly from New York. This has to be stopped!

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OC_NewJersey 6 points ago

Well pedes, wish us luck. Hopefully we won't have to go full Snake Plissken in the near future.

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Mexicola1976 5 points ago

Not a fan. Let the governors and mayors fugure shit out.

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sustainable_saltmine 6 points ago

problem is their response has been act like a Gestapo too. lock everyone at home and tell them you cant open up your business unless you can telecommute or do curbside pickup or delivery, and if your business cant survive indefinite lockdown, oh well

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anotherunperson 4 points ago

The governors of one state are not accountable to the governors of another state. Only the feds have the power to stop travel from state to state.

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mikeroolz 5 points ago

President Trump's clear-headed leadership through this crisis will be the final nail in the Democrats' coffin.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Let's hope!

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mikeroolz 1 point ago

Normal people see him confidently making rational decisions and acting "presidential". Even people who don't like the way he talks will respect his actions and recognize his strong leadership through a tough time.

Don't worry, the Twitter and Reddit cuck mobs don't represent REEEEEality.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

I still hope for a major landslide! 49 States. (I have no hope for Hawaii)

There are ways we can navigate this whole mess successfully.

At the same time, we all need to be prepared for the worst case scenario which includes a big igloo coming from everywhere at once

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MindsetRoulette 5 points ago

Please don't close all of NYS because the cities are in chaos.

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saco 3 points ago

I'm in the same boat. I do not live in NYC, but the rest of the state routinely gets dragged in to their mess!

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Dialectic 2 points ago

They aren't in chaos. More media bullshit

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MindsetRoulette 4 points ago

forced mass unemployment is no joke.

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Dialectic 3 points ago

Well that's true.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

MindsetRoulette please realize what's happening. Millions of doses of HCQ has been donated to US. Most of those are in NY and Fredo has refused to give them to all your infected people, which are nearly half of all the infections in the whole Country.

We need to seal your State lines to prevent the spread. Should be able to lift that restriction before Memorial Day, based on getting a supply of HCQ to everybody for preventative use. 15 pills is enough for preventative use and to get you through if you do catch it. Turns scary plague of death with no cure into a bad flu you get over in 6 days with no death and no side effects. People really sick even so go to Dr to get z pack and maybe a little more HCQ. Everybody's fine.

We can do this! Keep spreading it from NY (and NJ and CT) and we're all in bad shape. Right now most of the Country, most Counties have 0 people tested positive. Second biggest category is 1-4 infections per County. Most flyover States only have 6 counties with 5 or more infected people, those are the population centers many of which only have 30-ish cases per County at most.

Please help us beat this!

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MindsetRoulette 1 point ago

oh i get we need to contain and keep morons from scattering across the globe. But if we lock down the rural around the cities, there's no rural yo support the cities.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

The foodchain isn't locked down. Nobody's stopping a farmer from farming. From there to produce in restaurants is surprisingly few people. Not sure if they've changed anything about how they do things, but they're all "essential businesses" and not shut down.

Manufacturing and packaging happens mainly in urban (and some in suburban) areas though. That supply chain is all messed up. We really need to get the economy going. Trump pills for everyone!

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Kinestron 5 points ago

For the love the Constitution, tread carefully on this.

I just watched an Anthony Pompliano stream where Rhode Island is going house to house looking for coronavirus victims and they wanted to shut their border. They were told that was not allowed so they are pulling people over automatically if they have a New York license plate.

We are seeing examples all over the country where freedoms are being trampled. This has got to stop. Recent stat by Rush of 300000 hospitalized and 60 MILLION infected by swine flu yet it is essentially forgotten.

I don't like what is going on economically and politically.

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sustainable_saltmine 2 points ago

this. the solution cant just be "everyone is locked at home until we decide it's over or we fine/jail you".

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_TheConsumer_ 5 points ago

It sounds like NY/NJ/CT would be quarantined within their own states. I don’t think this means people are quarantined in their own homes.

Any pede think differently?

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sustainable_saltmine 4 points ago

I mean I'd be partially ok with that just because I dont really have plans to travel out of he state soon, I just want this "everyone has to stay locked in their homes unless they have an essential reason" crap to end.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Agreed 100%!

There is NO legal basis or precedent to shut down even one whole community. Tons of legal liability though.

Can reduce restaurants and bars to takeout / delivery / curbside only. I have no objections to this, think it's really sensible, and am proud of my fellow countrymen for being ingenious about how to do this.

Shutting down theaters hurts me; I'm a musician. Also a really sensible measure. Gatherings of 10 or more? Any number is arbitrary. Less supportive but no strong objection for 15 days.

Whenever bars are allowed to reopen here in WI it's going to be CRAZY! I will continue to self-isolate through that.

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Cyer6 3 points ago

This would be the only thing that makes sense for our country. They can shut down the airports and interstates to keep those states generally isolated. Keep them only open for commercial trucking and air flights. Then let those states develop a Herd Immunity because at this point, there's no other choice. A vaccine is too far away.

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MorbidRabbit 1 point ago

I don't think it would be that bad if you're free to roam the state. But I personally wouldn't trust the government to stop there.

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SnipedYou 5 points ago

Jersey City imposed a curfew on Bars at 10PM on Thursday 3/12, while NYC kept theirs open over the subsequent weekend. BDB and Cuomo are to blame for NYC rapid spread, they made some awful decisions leading up to this mess.

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Usadave85 3 points ago

They still have bars open?

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SnipedYou 2 points ago

No, they closed bars and restaurants on the 15th.

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Gingersmom2009 1 point ago

But they were all in encouraging people to get their collective asses to all the "lunar new year" celebrations the previous month. They brought it on themselves.

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mrspaulrevere 2 points ago

Heard a story here in the corn belt, fairly large Midwestern city...a bartender put a combination lock on his back door when the bars were closed. He lets certain customers have the combination and they can sneak in for a drink. Just anecdotal but from someone who would know.

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cygnus_x 4 points ago

This is the best approach. No need to quarantine a whole state if only select counties have high infection rates. Just quarantine those counties and maybe the adjacent ones

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sustainable_saltmine 3 points ago

well that's at least more reasonable. but I cant support keeping all aspects of life on pause for months on end longer than they already are

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Razeontherock 0 points ago

Disagreed. People commute all the way from the Delaware water gap to NYC. The trip can be made in 45 minutes along I-80.

Sealing the State lines is the only way to prevent continued massive spread to the rest of the Country. Please realize how much of the Country has 0 infected people! Help us beat this. Not being able to leave the State is not that big a deal. Should be able to lift that restriction before Memorial Day, won't even affect Summer plans. Should be a great summer; cheap gas, every place super clean

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joebud 4 points ago

DO IT

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letrain 4 points ago

Interstate commerce? Hard to say the federal government has the ability to prohibit movement between states...

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

POTUS can definitely do this, it's well within the law. Commercial truck drivers should be second priority to get HCQ as a preventative measure, behind healthcare workers who I hope are already on it. Then the drivers can't spread it. Then commercial vehicles can be allowed to pass.

Treating the cargo shouldn't be impossible. Hopefully it's already being studied how long this virus can stay alive on various surfaces. Cardboard boxes and wooden pallets are probably very different from hard surfaces in this respect. Expose a skid full to some rain and it's probably altogether different yet again.

Lots of room for cutting corners to spread infection. Greedy assholes gonna mess everything up. Only option to that risk is further disruption of the supply chain.

China owes the rest of the world a debt it can never repay!

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dakin116 4 points ago

Needed to be done a week ago, but I'll take it

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Fack it needed to be done in January.

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PleaseHonk 4 points ago

Love this

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MythArcana 3 points ago

Quarantine Los Angeles and open the rest of the state up.

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Not possible. People commute to LA from all over. Now if you seal the State line and manage your intrastate affairs that way, I'm fine with it. You're infections will skyrocket though.

Most responsible way to do this is starting in areas with 0 infections test everybody or just give everyone a supply of HCQ. 9 pills is enough for preventative use and at least get you started if you catch it. Buy you some time to get z pack and some more HCQ.

This might be doable Monday except NY is hoarding most of the HCQ. Not even giving it to all their infected people.

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SheepleMaster 1 point ago

Isn't there a declaration against hoarding?? Seize the HCQ if so.

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Captain_Triips 3 points ago

if we continue to live this pandemic movie script, this does not happen until it is too late

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speedychef 3 points ago

Guess that would make sense.. stop spreading your illnesses to us in flyover country.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Exactly!

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SplitStreamPP 3 points ago

I live in the eastern part of CT. Feels like too late for a quarantine to matter.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Not too late to matter and here's why:

most of the Country, the number of tested positive cases per County that has the most Counties is ZERO infected people in the whole County! The second largest category is 1-4 people tested positive in the whole County.

Please help us by not sending infected people here! We're containing it and can get these people better if NY would stop hoarding all the HCQ and not even giving it to your infected people.

We're about to turn the corner in most of the Country. Isolate the hotspots and we should be able to get substantial areas back to work soon. That includes NY NJ and CT lumped together because the greater NYC metro area is impossible to control. The border to RI is easy to control, especially since most of the traffic is along I-95. I bet MA is wishing they had sealed their border with CT, look at their numbers!

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Gigglygirl 3 points ago

The issue is NYC did a stay at home order but not a real quarentine. Everyone just left and took it with them.

No one is listening and there’s little enforcement. Lock down all roads for 10 days as any hot spots arise.

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mrspaulrevere 4 points ago

Cuomo will whine "I don't like it, that's not who we are!" That gives him cover when Trump (an actual leader) drops the hammer.

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Dialectic 1 point ago

You want people shooting at police and military then? Americans don't allow that sort of bullshit

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Razeontherock 0 points ago

Fully legal to shut State borders, well within the law.

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Dialectic 2 points ago

You have states that are burning their economies to the ground, forcibly destroying businesses and livelihoods.

And then we could see feds come in and say these disaffected people can't get out to try and rebuild elsewhere.

Seems like a recipe for disaster.

Is the idea to reopen businesses within the states and then temporarily shut borders? Maybe that's ok.

But this is all extremely, extremely infuriating given how fucking weak the virus is

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

Unfortunately my State newly has a D Governor that is also burning our economy to the ground.

Big picture is this has been in the works for over 100 years. If you check my history there is only 1 thread I've created in a very long time, and it discusses this big picture.

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Diana 3 points ago

Martz bus in my area has stopped making runs to and from NYC and Philly.

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Dialectic 3 points ago

And what about the businesses there? They just go tits up for the flu then?

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sustainable_saltmine 5 points ago

if we dont stop "quarantine culture" from becoming a thing now, theyll start doing it every year at flu season now. "aBUnDAncE oF cAUtION"

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Genericwhitemale 3 points ago

Lol Minnesota is on lockdown as of today. I don’t live there but it seems like an extreme measure for a state with about 300 cases.

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archdog99 3 points ago

This is where GEOTUS wins. The DEMS will keep pushing the "guidance measures" while stoking the flames of panic. So call their bluff, push for full national guard takeover of certain parts....

...oh look, Cuomo doesn't want to go there now.....

Cuomo via WSJ “I don’t know how that could be legally enforceable, and from a medical point of view I don’t know what you would be accomplishing.”

Call their bluff.

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habanero 3 points ago

Should quarantine SF as well, for a good measure. Shit in the streets can't be good for disease transmission.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Cleaning the streets before it gets hot would make too much sense, Pelosi would never allow it.

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KarlHungus53 3 points ago

I can see the headlines now. "White Nationalist President Donald Trump locks down the country's most diverse states to commit ethnic genocide."

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astro_eng 2 points ago

Is this the beginning of the breakup as foretold by Igor Panarin?

http://90.146.8.18/infowar/DOKU98/9/panarin4.jpg

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SisterCovfefe 2 points ago (edited)

They did this in Spain and prohibited non commercial traffic from the Basque Country and Catalonia. The Spanish govt made use of the time they bought to set up field hospitals etc in other areas.

Then they extended it to the rest of the country because people were leaving the cities and going to their second homes.

Not sure it helped in the end but it may have slowed things down for a couple days.

(and it could be argued the Spanish govt squandered their opportunity by placing stupid supply orders from outside Spain)

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redknight80 2 points ago

This should be done, indeed, but I don't like the idea of him giving any advanced notice of this - you know people who were slightly considering departure will likely preemptively leave now...

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SD_Pede 4 points ago

Would you rather have tanks show up on the George Washington Bridge in the middle of the night?

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redknight80 0 points ago

Doesn't need to be tanks on the road if he announces say the morning of or something..come on now, fellow Patriot; you know I don't mean to have tanks on the bridge....

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Razeontherock 0 points ago

Not the only option.

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Evei 2 points ago

Can we just wall off NYC like the movie?

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Bringbackthedon 2 points ago

Without doxing my local. Would it be safe to assume if a “quarantine” is enacted Would You be able to drive 3 minutes down the road to get groceries? Or is that state dependent?

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ailurus 2 points ago

Probably a good idea, but if it happens I really hope its on a county by county level not a state by state level. Up here in upstate NY, my county has (as of 11:34 AM this morning, according to the county dept of health website) 9 infections and <100 people under investigation. So no need to quarantine us!

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sustainable_saltmine 1 point ago

this. if its preventing people leaving the state, fine whatever, not a fan of people in the suburbs being treated like the cities. a lot of us in the suburbs depending where you are in the state arent even liberal, we just get forced to suffer with them

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cccpneveragain 1 point ago

I'm not sure if you saw or not but if it will make you feel any better when the President was leaving the USNS Comfort sendoff he mentioned in a brief interview it would be "parts" of New Jersey and Connecticut. It also sounded more like it was to prevent the masses of people fleeing the city to Florida and such.

I hope for your sake they go easy on it or at least restrict it to the city. I'm from a red state too. Sorry about all the people throwing shit in your face. Sometimes I think people forget we are all among pedes here. Others are just assholes.

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Razeontherock 0 points ago

Plenty of reason to quarantine you! Most of the Country, most Counties have 0 people confirmed positive per County. Second biggest category is 1-4 infections per County.

Sealing your State lines (including NJ and CT because of the metro NYC area) is the only sensible thing to do. This restriction should be able to be lifted before Memorial Day. We can ALL have a great summer; cheap gas, every place clean ...

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

Perfect. Close the deep state in.

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Marshall 2 points ago

Do it. The death toll is exploding in those states.

New York last week 56 deaths Statewide. Today its 719+, 517 in NYC alone. New Jersey last week. 11 deaths. Today it's 138+ Connecticutt last week. 4 deaths. Today its 24+

Extra testing has increase confirmed cases and reduced death rates, but it's still killing in exponential increases.

Source John Hopkins Tracker.

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HubriantNectarine 2 points ago

I can’t see how it is a good idea to pre-announce like this. I imagine the highways out of NY/NJ are going to be filled with Wuhan Virus rushing into neighboring states this weekend.

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BeanieRed 2 points ago

"WTF, I love States rights"

  • Cuomo, probably (well not probably, he's already said it)

Can we have the same consideration for abortion, gun control, etc.?

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The_Kuru 2 points ago

Who is gonna bring them food? Those loads must pay a fortune because no one will want a back haul of anything coming from there and when you get back to the midwest or wherever, they won't load you because you've traveled in a hot spot area within the last two weeks.

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rickscarf 2 points ago

People hated the "Terrorism Threat Level" color chart, but I wonder if they could do something similar for cities and states.

Like maybe:

Green- Normal, wash yo damn hands you heathen

Yellow- Elevated, respect social distancing rules, limit extracirriculars (ok to go to work and shop for food/clothes, but maybe don't go to the movie theater)

Orange- Stay at home orders other than essentials

Red- Quarantine time, everyone stays at home and essentials are delivered

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tinkesquire 4 points ago

Sounds like a Chicom level fascist plan to me.

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Bringbackthedon 2 points ago

You have had too much to think! To the FEMA camps you go!

I feel yah B

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

rickscarf, what's on the table here is simply stopping the spread from the Country's #1 hotspot to the rest of the Country.

That's a sensible course of action.

Some State and local restrictions are too tyrannical IMHO. Can't go outside for a walk? Eff that. Easy to stay 10' away from anybody, unless you're in an urban area. Even then you should be able to drive to a State Park and go hiking, for example.

This and closing gun stores are really the only things I've heard that I have really strong objections to, so far. 2 weeks is a sensible time frame because of the incubation period. Forcing businesses to close? Not a fan. Theaters and other large gatherings makes sense.

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Mother_of_gains 2 points ago

Just wall off new York City.

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k614 2 points ago

I'm in favor of one for California as well, but permanently.

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AngelMark 2 points ago

Hot spots as in places with a lot of individuals w sealed indictments??

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Conservativechick 2 points ago

This just makes sense.

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CA-Patriot 1 point ago

Quarantine any state where they are not allowing treatment. See how that goes over with the voters. I see patriots storming governor's mansions...

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saco 1 point ago

There should be a permanent quarantine on those areas. Liberalism is far worse than coronavirus.

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WeinerLapTop 1 point ago

Snake Pliskin intesifies.

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Rugar22 1 point ago

Now let's get most of Virginia opened back up.

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sustainable_saltmine 2 points ago (edited)

fuck you. why you people are downvoting a loyal pede with a legit gripe, I cant believe.
you other folks are upvoting this thread like crazy because you dont live here, and love to discount us as "liberal hellholes".

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SecularConserv 2 points ago

It's reality is what must be done to stop this

I'm sorry about your feels

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sustainable_saltmine 14 points ago

I still have a job, salary so I'm fine. I've been a Trump supporter since inception. yes I'll still vote for him but this is the first time I've had a serious problem with one of his decisions. it's not my choice to live in NJ, sick and tired of everyone blowing us off as a "liberal wasteland" just because we're outnumbered by them. most of us that support Trump and live here have no choice. our whole life is here. we cant just uproot it and go live in bumblefuck in the midwest.

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BuckMontrose 4 points ago

Don't sweat it 'pede. I get the same thing since I'm in California. I constantly hear "just move" or the "build a wall around California" Phhhht... whatever. I know exactly how you feel.

Just remember one thing, you are not alone. You will never be alone. Think of it as we are freedom fighters behind enemy lines. 🇺🇸👍

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MURDER_ALL_MARXIST 2 points ago

What the fuck do you want him to do? Not quarantine NY and NJ and let your fellow residences spread the plague all the fuck over? Grow the fuck up, put your big boy pants on and deal with it. Trumps going to make tough choices that adversely affected us all at some point. That's why he's president to make those hard choices. Go to the store and get supplies and stop whining.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

I know ehat you mean we don't want to "force" treatment, we want to overrule dumbass Governors who deny lifesaving medicine from sick people. We have millions of doses. We have less than 100,000 infected. We could cure them all!

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White -1 points ago

You want medicine that has boy passed any real trial to be forced on people, but are against a quarantine to stop all the idiots from fleeing the city and spreading it everywhere? Fuck you.

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dakin116 2 points ago

If youre a homeowner up there can't you sell it and move to literally anywhere else? Houses are half what a POS is in NJ. If you rent or bought a house for less than 20% I get it though

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

This thread isn't about hating on NJ. It's about not sending infected people from the #1 hotspot in the Country to ruin everywhere else, too.

Now stop hating on bumblefuck midwest. Most towns are less than 3,000. NO crime. People are actually NICE!

No HCQ. NY is hoarding it all, not even treating their infected people with it. They could (almost) all be virus free in 6 days, and we wouldn't have to worry about this ...

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SecularConserv 0 points ago

It's reality it's what must be done to deal with this

It makes no sense to have people from a hotspot spread out all over the country infecting everyone else

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sunnyingreenfield 5 points ago

We are all pedes. Some of us are behind enemy lines because leaving is not an option. So we stay and fight.

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USA_is_best 4 points ago

I don't give a damn what happens to you people.

You are an asshole. I can guarantee you are a miserable person.

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lefty295 3 points ago

Lmao, you sound like the biggest pussy ever. You know Trump lived in New York right? Go fuck yourself, or maybe your sibling? I know some of you like that stuff.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Pierre, that's completely inappropriate.

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SD_Pede -1 points ago

Who's choice is it to live in New Jersey if it's not your choice?

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

It's not possible to leave. You have family, employment, other ties. People live there for the. opportunity that simply doesn't exist elsewhere.

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RegularAmerican 10 points ago

That's not how Americans should act. I don't like that "screw you I got mine so good luck" attitude people get when they don't have to deal with a problem as bad. You sound like that guy sitting on the boat laughing while us on the other side sprung a leak and are desperately bailing water.

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HilLiedTroopsDied 1 point ago

Don't say you're considering it, JUST DO IT. Now those on the fence about leaving are going to. Maybe he's playing 4D chess while I'm stuck in 2D

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NeoPepe 1 point ago

Lock them up!

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xBigCoffinHunter 1 point ago

I mean it’s not like these people in those areas will ever like him anyway

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NecturusMaculosus 1 point ago

Quarantine all the blue States. Reopen all the Red States. MAGA, BABY!

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CaptainChrisPBacon 1 point ago

The South Shall Rise Again! It was a motto said for many years after the Civil war.

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UnlikelyWolverine 1 point ago

For the love of God, NORTH JERSEY!!!

Here where I am there are two....TWO positive cases so far and we’re doing great with distancing and stay at home but because the shitbags from the north, yet again, can’t do things right we’re suffering. I fucking hate this state.

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polish_snausage 1 point ago

All of NY or NYC

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Legskinner 1 point ago

Shut down all flights leaving NYC (JFK and that other shitty airport La Guardia) and checkpoints on interstates. The New Yorkers enjoy fleeing the Martha’s Vineyard, Florida and Colorado.

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nachosamplerREBORN 1 point ago

LOL - the fastest way to get Democrats to stop extending the quarantine is for Trump to force a Quarantine.

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polish_snausage 1 point ago

Right, why didn’t their governors do this already? Wtf

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jschmid4 1 point ago

The Republican Lincoln had to do this to the Democrat states in rebellion in the South.

Precedent for this mighty move by the God Emperor to today's Democrat states in rebellion!

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sniffyJB 1 point ago

BOOGALOO ZONE!

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AIDS1255 1 point ago

I wish they would include Marion county (Indianapolis). Folks are completely ignoring the lock down order here and the cases in the county are really taking off

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ArchieInTheBunker 1 point ago

They need to stay out of Ohio, we're full.

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SemperFree 1 point ago

Escape from NY!

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Razeontherock -1 points ago

No, don't. Please.

That's the biggest part of our problem in this crisis right now; people have been escaping from NY.

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RicottaPrime 9 points ago

Huh? You don't have to quit your job and move away. Just stay there where you live.

You're saying you can't move away... but you're upset with Trump for potentially preventing you from moving away? Sounds like you wouldn't be leaving regardless of if there's a quarantine or not.

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sustainable_saltmine 1 point ago

no what I'm talking about with the moving away thing is the usual talk on here all the time of how "NJ/NY, etc are liberal hellholes and even the pedes who live there deserve what they get". it's not like I have the ability to leave NJ, even if this were a normal time, to escape the liberalism here. I'm stuck with it. therefore I'm sick of being lumped in with the rest of the hatred for my state.

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RicottaPrime 3 points ago

Oh, I understand that. Yeah, I know what you mean.

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GooseHonkHonk 5 points ago

I'm on lockdown in WA, myself. I don't know how a federal quarantine will differ.

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USA_is_best 2 points ago

It won't Just seems to be a lot of people in here with pitchforks ready.

On top of that, latest research says the peak of the virus will be mid-April, so at most its a few more weeks that some parts of the country have to deal with for a bit longer.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

Only talking about sealing State borders here to stop the continued spread from the Country's #1 hotspot, which is NY. NJ and CT are part of the NYC metro area, so impossible to separate them.

Activity within those States is a completely separate matter.

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tangerinemanbad -7 points ago

This. Hartford county here. This is bullshit. I'm immunocompromised and he wants to effectively sentence me to a bubble with this virus running rampant. That's a death sentence.

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MURDER_ALL_MARXIST 4 points ago

So what should he do different? He should allow NYer's and NJer's and CTer's spread the plague around some more? It's easy to say you don't like something. It's harder to come up with a better solution. He's president and has to make difficult calls. You're not going to be forced into a shelter with sick people STAY THE FUCK HOME and you'll be fine.

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thelakeoutwest 0 points ago

Im proud of the west coast. When you look at the infection map, the east coast is disgusting!!!!!!

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Razeontherock 2 points ago

The west coast infection map is also disgusting. Nothing to be proud of there, sorry.

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Independenceforever 0 points ago

Let me get the virus, swear off hospitals, and beat it or die.

May all you slaves have a nice life.

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Reelect45 1 point ago

Begond cuck!

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independentbystander 0 points ago

DO EET

LOCK THEM UP

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UsurpTheNarrative 0 points ago

I like the idea of Democrat cities under Quarantine by POTUS just so I can savor their reaction. And stopping the spread is good to.