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Nrdrsr 77 points ago

i am skeptical about 2 TRILLION dollars for a disease that seems like it could potentially be a huge deal but for now doesn't seem more menacing than other illnesses

maybe i am not being fearful enough

also 2 TRILLION

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ThisTrainHasNoBrakes 22 points ago

This is on point. I am of the opinion we should be open for business. Wash your hands. However the economic damage is real and it is immense. We cannot allow our country to go out of business.

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Punk2044 10 points ago

The reaction was over the top, but I can understand the fear. China hid this for months, there was no medicine (until now the one being talked about), and no vaccine for it.

However the lock down won't last the months they are saying, people will only stay inside for so long before they say 'fuck it' and take the risk and get the economy going again.

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soyface_deluxe 9 points ago

Trusting the CDC to tell us the truth about the virus, is like trusting the FBI to tell us what really happened to Seth Rich.

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ChocktawRidge 1 point ago

The Fake News, Democrats and internet shills and their ingrained habit of making everything about OrangeManBad caused a lot of panic.

They are getting a lot of treasure for themselves out of that panic and this necessary reaction to mitigate the damage. Damage that their own hatefulness and lust for power created.

They have been unrelenting in trying to paint President Trump as incompetent in his response.

They are evil and their attempt to hold the country hostage, in total disregard for the suffering caused by their actions needs to be remembered, catalogued, and thrown back into their faces come election time.

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Jcholl9 3 points ago

Yep, Trump curse incoming!

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Malsikcuf 2 points ago

Cool, so we can bill the M5M for a large chunk of this, yes?

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dougf 2 points ago

How can it lead to massive inflation ? Or ANY inflation at all ? The whole country and possibly world is in a deflationary holding pattern. You could and they are going to, print money by the trainload to give people some income. And it won't be April. Not a hope for MOST of the economic engines of the country. More like May for say someplace like NYC.

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AlohaSnackbar 1 point ago

I'm in the same boat. My hope, for what its worth, is that since this money primarily goes to citizens and American businesses, is that it is ultimately treated as the largest tax cut in hist (even if only for one year). We'll see, but if we remove the kung flu from the equation, and call this a tax relief bill, well, there are some good points.

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yukondave 1 point ago (edited)

Evil China Wuhan Death Flu is showing 0.04 fatality rate versus the flu at 0.10 in Washington state. Washington State was the first to be hit and did nothing to stop its spread until Yesterday. Covid is following the same bell curve as the FLU so it should be done by April.

123 total Deaths from Covid 19

31,712 tested

2,469 tested positive

123 died

That is a 0.04 rate of death after being tested positive for Covid-19 and they do not have enough tests and that number will keep going down. That is half the rate of the FLU right now.

Washington has 86 deaths from the seasonal Flu down from 265 last year Total deaths from both to date is lower than last year so Covid-19 is hitting the same demographic and the Governor only yesterday asked people to stay home, NOT A LOCK DOWN That is because he is seeing the same numbers I am seeing from the WA Department of Health and CDC.

US CDC FLU Numbers to date

23,000 dead (In 2018 we have 80,000 die from the FLU)

1,130,489 Tested nationally, 231,654 tested positive

That is a 0.10 rate of death after being tested positive for the FLU right now

That Flu will kill you buy attacking your lungs and making you drown like the Covid-19

Edit: adding sources

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

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nutspanther 4 points ago

I hate to be a downer, but you forgot to multiply by 100. The Washington state fatality rate is 4% given those numbers.

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yukondave 1 point ago (edited)

Tell me where I am wrong:

China Virus: 123 / 2,469 = 0.04

This Year FLU: 23,000 / 231,654 = 0.10

Edit: Its still half the rate of the flu. I did one as a decimal and one as a percentage when both were decimal.

So Flu is 10% and China Virus is 4%

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Aslrightnow 23 points ago

I think at this point the panic has done more damage than the disease itself. I'd imagine this stimulus is REALLY about the fallout from panic.

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fuckyou 13 points ago

The government revoked our ability to provide for ourselves. Now the government needs to take care of us.

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MindsetRoulette 11 points ago

Compensate, not take care of.

it's unconstitutional to take a citizens labor/property without compensation.

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America1stAndOnly 6 points ago

Now the government needs to take care of us.

No. Now we need to take care of the government, before they take care of us.

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Keln 19 points ago

It's not the virus that is the problem. It's what the reaction to it is doing to the economy that is the problem.

These aren't normal times. Whether the response to the virus was right or wrong, the damage is done and small businesses and workers alike need relief.

Normally I am against any sort of stimulus bs, but state and federal governments have put too many in a terrible position. We need a financial ride through so we are in a position to roar back when this is over, instead of picking up the pieces on mainstreet.

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KekistanPM 12 points ago

We have 100T+ in unfunded liabilities; so what the hay, money is no object! How about we spend 4T if it makes people feel better.

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MAGAMANARFARF 2 points ago

Can I have 1mil if we’re doing it? I’ll spend it all before inflation hits

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Harambe 1 point ago

no we must destroy America because monopoly money concerns reee....

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Jcholl9 1 point ago

You mean to destroy America so we can eventually save it....

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MindsetRoulette 6 points ago

i see it more as compensation for Government policies taking control of citizen's labor/property. Which is unconstitutional.

In the future, the Government official making the call should provide immediate compensation or tax freeze for all Citizens effected by that policy.

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AnhHaiSaigon 6 points ago

Remember this and tell everyone you know to vote in November.

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nuts 4 points ago

the whole point is prevent things from getting worse, which is when preventative measures are most effective. people try to put in place proactive actions in a reactive situation, and it never works. it's better to be safe than sorry.

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westrock2000 1 point ago

Phantom menacing even.

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Ex-libtard 1 point ago

Its not even as bad as the flu. Manufactured crisis.

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Fabius 1 point ago

The government overreaction is why we need 2 trillion dollars.

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_Cabal_ 53 points ago

Congress, as it exists today, was never supposed to exist. This version of Congress was never the intention of the Congress established by the founders in the Constitution. Congress is entirely broken and corrupt and must be torn down and reformed from the ground up.

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ADAM_SCHITT 22 points ago

TERM LIMITS

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Keln 19 points ago

Repeal the 17th amendment

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MichaelHall1 3 points ago

What's the history of the 17th? Was there a problem with the system before? Or was it a case of Congress seeing a way to give themselves life terms and almost no accountability? It seems easy enough for the states to repeal the 17th. I know an Article V Convention has never been done and is generally considered next to impossible, but this issue seems like a slam-dunk for the states: they should all agree to repeal the 17th. Would Congress then repeal the repealing? What's to prevent amendment ping-pong?

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publ1us 10 points ago

The bigger issue is that people won't understand why it should be repealed:

“The improbability of such a mercenary and perfidious combination of the several members of government, standing on as different foundations as republican principles will well admit, and at the same time accountable to the society over which they are placed, ought alone to quiet this apprehension.”

The Federalist no 55

I'm pretty sure the "problem" that led to it was the perception that it's "undemocratic" despite that being the idea. The Senate, House, Presidency, and Supreme Court all were elected through entirely different means to prevent an outside entity from taking control of everything, due to the diversified source of powers. One of my favorite parts of the Federalist Papers talks about how Philip of Macedon gained control over the Amphictyonic League, and drives this point home very well.

The framers knew what they were doing so much it still blows my mind. Yet, some fresh out of college dipshit thinks they know better.

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AlohaSnackbar 2 points ago

I find it easier to frame it in a "states representation" argument. At current, we have 50 state governments that have exactly ZERO say in the federal government, and that is a recipe for tyranny.

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publ1us 1 point ago

I agree with you, but that can be a tough sell for someone who unironically thinks the idea of “equal state representation” is an outdated relic (one facet of that being people who want to move to a national popular vote for President, which would further erode the foundation that was begun with the 17th amendment). Some people think California and NY should run the entire country because they have more people... Or conversely, they think Wyoming and Alaska should have no say because they’re sparsely populated. I reserve the deeper argument for those cases.

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PeePeePooPooTrain 7 points ago

We need to vat clone the founding fathers and vote them in

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AbrahamLincoln 7 points ago

1913 was the worst year in American history.

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kag-2020- 5 points ago

Gave the Senate to the Commies running Federal Reserve and they already had the House in their pocket.

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Foobar789 47 points ago

It's really quite enlightening when we see how absolutely ineffective our congress really is... It takes a massive global crisis for these clowns to act like they even care, and even then they are more loyal to their special interests and pet projects.

This bill should be 1-2 pages. Period.

Drop all the pork.

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VetforTrump 8 points ago

Their masters will kill them dead.

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flashersenpai 3 points ago

You can't write a usable contract in that many pages. Silly measure of whether a bill is good or not.

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Dereliction 14 points ago

Yeah, I mean the Constitution is what, one page?

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LacyLiberty 14 points ago

Four pages, I think. Seems like a reasonable standard, no?

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Dereliction 6 points ago

You're right, four pages. You're also right about a reasonable standard.

"Four pages, anything else is clearly bullshit pork."

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Fabius 3 points ago

Four pages to set up the greatest government to ever be conceived on planet earth, 1200 page Obamacare Act.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago

And here we are in 2020 arguing about what the words meant after adding 27 amendments.

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Fabius 3 points ago

There is no argument. It's all very clear. Don't let them gaslight you. It's even written in English.

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AbrahamLincoln 10 points ago (edited)

Senate is fucking braindead if they added a legalized election fraud provision. So of course that's what they did.

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HilarityComplex 7 points ago

Damn. I was afraid they left that shit in there.

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UpTrump 41 points ago

China just got us into 2T more debt

Fuck China

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Tranny_Fluid 24 points ago

They must pay

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AmazingAlphonseA 7 points ago

They will.

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NostalgicFuturist 14 points ago
  1. Decouple economies

  2. Declare them an enemy state

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AmazingAlphonseA 7 points ago

Or put a 10% tax on all Chinese imports and let Capitalism do it's thing.

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NostalgicFuturist 7 points ago (edited)

Continued industrial spying and intellectual property theft are not business as usual. Cyber-attacks are still attacks. Laissez-faire doesn't mean letting a hostile foreign power threaten our economy and our national security.

Declare China an enemy state. Universities, Big Tech, the media, Diane Feinstein, the Bidens et al, anyone who accepts money from them or spreads their propaganda is collaborating with the enemy and committing treasonable offenses punishable by law or military tribunal.

Prescott Bush (who started a family tradition of war-profiteering) got away with this sort of thing with the Nazis.

"A firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism... His business dealings...continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act..."

http://archive.is/BrcnD

I don't know if that law is still in effect, but if not a similar law should be passed.

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Trumpchoochoo 2 points ago

Or just take it over and rename it New Texas.

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PaineThomas 3 points ago

Nuke Beijing

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NostalgicFuturist 3 points ago

Tempting. But I can't help feeling sorry for the vast numbers of Chinese who are more victims than collaborators (or maybe both). There are millions and millions of Chinese who hate a regime that's doing things TO them but nothing FOR them. But anyone who speaks out gets disappeared or run over by a tank.

There are--maybe--signs of hope. According to this report, even Xi's cronies in the CCP may be getting fed up with his brutality, incompetence and power-mad neo-Maoism. A coup in the works? It's possible.

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/03/24/china-communist-party-members-share-letter-urging-removal-of-xi-jinping/

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InTheArmsOfThePepe 11 points ago

I went into this mess suspecting this whole fiasco was an elaborate means to get some "payback" from our recent China deals.

2T for a "pandemic" that was merely a blip on our flu season radar? That already has a cheap and effective cure?

Yeah, I'm skeptical as hell about this saga.

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trump_lsd 0 points ago

As if anyone actually cares about the national debt lmao. That time passed long ago.

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the__rev 36 points ago (edited)

I wish we could fire every one of those motherfuckers and have zero new legislation for a period of two years, after which a whole new gang gets elected and starts over.

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OnlyMAGA4EVA 13 points ago

I wish we could fire everyone of those motherfuckers

I'd like to walk through and tag a number of them for hanging, but that's just me.

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The_Almighty_Kek 4 points ago

It's not just you, believe me.

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Warren_Puffitt 4 points ago

Username shows commitment and intensity. Good Pede.

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America1stAndOnly 3 points ago

Swift trial and swift punishment.

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Former_RM2 9 points ago

Did you know that Texas only convenes their legislators every two years? Seems to be working for them.

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Getfuckedcommietrash 4 points ago

Texas is the best and last free state

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left_reddit_for_this 8 points ago

Texas is being invaded by a foriegn horde. It's almost worse than cali. How long do you expect that freedom to last when your state is becoming mexico 2.0?

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TruthIsForceOfNature 7 points ago

I actually was just thinking the other day we need a Constitutional Amendment creating a process for a people's referendum to vote "no confidence" in Congress, at which point every currently sitting member can finish out their term but is no longer eligible for re-election.

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lefty295 13 points ago

Congress should have term limits anyway I think.

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acebart3 4 points ago

Convention of states. There is a way but it’s damn near impossible

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sharkman100 2 points ago

I agree.

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mykillk 35 points ago

Democrats stripped out $3 Billion for oil purchases to restock the Strategic Petroleum Reserve which has been tapped in previous years to generate revenue to fund various legislation and not replenished.

They're calling it an "oil bailout" when it's not even a bailout. It's a smart move to buy oil when prices are very low to replenish the crucially important SPR. It's a purchase of a commodity on the open markets and none of the money goes directly to specific oil companies as a bailout. But none of that matters to the Dems they are absolutely intent on destroying the oil industry.

As someone from an economic region heavily dependent on the oil industry for good jobs -- FUCK YOU DEMOCRATS!!

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The_VeryStableGenius 12 points ago

Moreover, in a time when oil is low, and we are enjoying the result of booming oil industry in the US, purchasing from domestic companies would be of significant value to industry, the economy, and it's employees. It's win win win win

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Cup_O_Covfefe 5 points ago

FUCK THEM.

Granted, Obama drained the strategic reserve of N95 masks, so I guess its just how they operate.

Fucking locusts.

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CarlosDangerrr 2 points ago

When I looked into this a few days ago it seemed like the amount that the US gov could buy wasnt that much. (I still think filling it up is worth doing) I think the max capacity is around 720 million barrels and it currently somewhere in the mid 600 billion barrel level.

From the last annual report I could find: https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2020/01/f70/2018%20SPR%20Report%20to%20Congress.pdf

"The SPR entered calendar year (CY) 2018 with 662.8 million barrels (MMbbl) of crude oil, and at the end of CY 2018 (as of December 31, 2018), the SPR held 649.1 MMbbl"

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mykillk 2 points ago

50-80 million barrels of new demand is a pretty big deal.

I think Trump release some more in 2019 as well.

$3 Billion / ~$30 barrel is 100 million barrels

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CarlosDangerrr 1 point ago

You can find the current amount of reserves here: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W

It looks like you are correct. in the beginning of 2019 SPR had 649,139,000 and ended with 634,967,000 barrels

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CarlosDangerrr 1 point ago

Here is an article which makes the argument in quite a lot of detail why SPR purchases will not be large enough to make a difference. I still think the US should do it but in the strategic way the author argues for.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4332736-q2-2020-oil-glut-will-be-unprecedented

Trump’s announcement should be viewed in the right perspective. In our view, it does not mean that the United States will buy non-stop to reach the maximum storage level. This does not make sense because SPR crude inventories are already quite high and US domestic production is elevated, at least for now. The SPR purchases are meant to give downside protection to crude oil prices. It is quite possible that the government has a floor level in mind (maybe $20 or $25). In this case, there will be a mechanism to gradually make crude purchases below this threshold.

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mykillk 2 points ago

Yeah so instead of finally inserting some stability to the oil markets by asserting a floor, now there's nothing holding it up and protecting against further declines. Prices are so low right now that any further drops could be catastrophic. First mass layoffs and then oil companies folding up left and right.

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Choppermagic 32 points ago

Mail in ballots = 600M democrat votes all from China and Ukraine

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The_VeryStableGenius 10 points ago

I propose that congress permit me or any other random nobody to collect votes from the representatives not present and in quarantine, and that I be permitted to deliver them to the house floor for immediate tabulation.

What do you mean that's insecure and rife for abuse? Seems fine for California

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IAmAnElephante 32 points ago

I want to know what the fuck is in this goddamn bill. How does this fucking thing go from 1.3Trillion to 1.5Trillion to 2trillion. All wreaks of poison pills and bullshit. I blame both sides

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FreeBased1 6 points ago

Well buddy, they're gonna have to pass the bill to see what's in it. That's the way it works.

Besides, who doesn't love surprises?!?! I like surprises.

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America1stAndOnly 2 points ago

I feel like Lando talking to Vader when it comes to this bill.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 1 point ago

Wasn't the first proposal $500b?

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Bdoncford 10 points ago

Yea all this money is going to my first son when he's born next month. I am still working and don't need it

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dakin116 5 points ago

lucky enough to still be employed through this. Great idea !

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trump_lsd 3 points ago

Dated advice. Time to buy a firearm was 1-2 months ago. Stores are all sold out. And if you live in a state where non-essential businesses are closed down..lol.

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trump_lsd 3 points ago

Definitely. Stay safe pede!

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PepesCovfefe 2 points ago
  1. Shotgun 2. Sidearm 3. Sig MPX. Order of Priority if you don’t own any yet. Sidearm: glock, smith and Wesson, h&k - 9mm will keep rounds consistent for when you go big with the MPX.
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Fabius 1 point ago

I want a rifle before I get a shotgun. Not a lot of penetrative power on a shotgun (non-slug), and the range isn't great. A rifle round will go through pretty much all natural, day to day cover. I'd even take a bolt action at this point. The fighting isn't going to be close range. It's going to be a strategy of rifle deterrence, imo.

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PepesCovfefe 1 point ago

Are you in US?

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NET123 2 points ago

Unfortunately waiting for communist state Illinois to accept/deny my FOID application.

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Berkeley 28 points ago

Hell no. Trump, don't fall for it !

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free-money- 23 points ago

Donald Trump don't trust Congress!

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PaigeAshley 16 points ago

CONgress is Asshoe!

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Spezial 14 points ago

Congress is asshoe!

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xBigCoffinHunter 13 points ago

Congress is Asshoe!

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GaiusOrangeJulius 12 points ago

Congress is asshoe!

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unicornpoop 8 points ago

Congress is ASSHOLIO

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1776-or-1984 1 point ago

Chongress!

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AbrahamLincoln 26 points ago

Apparently the House already went home for the day. Meanwhile senate will stay up all night jerking off and refusing to tell us what's in the bill.

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1776forever1776 22 points ago

Have to make sure their insider trading is set first.

Folks, we have to reinstate the constitution as written. The only provision? If you’ve worked for the previous Government, you cannot work in Government ever again. DRAIN THE SWAMP.

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Spirit_of_Resistance 7 points ago

Politicians need to be taught to be afraid again.

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VetforTrump 5 points ago

Or their family members.

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xBigCoffinHunter 11 points ago

Went home? It’s barely fucking lunch time?

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free-money- 8 points ago

Yep! Want to see all the work they got done today? See: https://www.c-span.org/video/?470651-1/house-pro-forma-session

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AbrahamLincoln 1 point ago

I'm amazed they came in at all.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago

That's a long day for politicians. Why that's barely enough time to get drunk and molest your underpaid assistants.

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MrAndersonMAGA 6 points ago

pass the bill to see what is in the bill???

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Oizen 3 points ago

We wont be able to know whats in it until we pass it tho

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Kaiheitai 25 points ago

Wow, another completely retarded government spending spree just because of the sniffles pandemic. Dems get oversight on which companies get pieces of the $500 billion. Gee, wonder where they'll go. Also, pay attention to the companies that get this money - and which CEOs get multi-million dollar bonuses paid for by you, me, our kids, their kids, their kids...

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DigitalDemocracy404 5 points ago

This exactly. The markets will come back without trillions of dollars of bailouts. Extend small business loans and help companies with unemployment insurance. Beef up medical funds and call it a day!!!

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TheMutualist 2 points ago

Fortunately unlike Obama's abysmal bill this only gives out loans to big businesses. The only exception are planes because they pose security risks if underfunded.

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UpTrump 24 points ago

Idiots on reddit are going to take the 1k stimulus as a sign that "UBI works, drumphtard"

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GideonBayle 19 points ago

dont tell them about their taxes next year. let it be a surprise.

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GilaMonsterous 9 points ago

Assuming they pay taxes.

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Coalville 4 points ago

Shh, don't type that sort of logic. A lib might read it.

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Marble68 3 points ago

I think the stimulus is tax free.

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NoBrakes2020 3 points ago

TINSTAAFL

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trump_lsd 1 point ago

Yeah, that doesn’t apply in this context. TINSTAAFL here will be the pork-legislation included in the bill, and also the probable inflation that will happen soon.

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UpTrump 1 point ago

Their argument is that UBI saves you money even if taxes go up

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Fabius 1 point ago

Lol, they don't pay taxes.

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ChrisTheSoberITGuy 8 points ago

Yyyyyup. I would love it to be implemented on a monthly basis just to watch them realize what happens when that $1000 is devalued.

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Fabius 2 points ago

Gas, $1000/gallon.

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TheMutualist 4 points ago

Idiots on Reddit are going to be mad when they realize that they only get $600 if they refused to work last year.

Whaaa

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America1stAndOnly 2 points ago

I think this is another 4-D chess move by Trump. If we get a stimulus, he can give the people aid they desperately need right now, but also show how much of a toll it took to do it, and why doing such a thing permanently would be unsustainable. In addition, this is also waking people up to the need for strong and secure borders.

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Kielo2 24 points ago

I hate politicians. Period. That’s why I love trump. Imagine a congress and senate full of DJT’s

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DaLaohu 9 points ago

I think work would actually get done.

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BaldyGull 3 points ago

And twitter would be lit. The political scholars of the past scribed their thoughts and opinions and they would do so again.

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American-Free-Man 3 points ago

Under budget and ahead of schedule.

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America1stAndOnly 2 points ago

They'd meet for 1 week a year and get everything done better than every other congress before them.

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Spezdrinksassjuice 2 points ago

I'm so hard I could cut diamonds just thinking about it.

Not gonna lie though, they would probably all be so damn stubborn toward eachother because they are all alphas it may not work. You need some beta bitches in the room (Amash I'm looking at you)

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Fabius 2 points ago

Negotiation isn't about power, it's about good deals. There are no losers in a good deal.

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Fabius 1 point ago

My dick can only get so hard.

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sharkman100 24 points ago

Anyone else getting sick of the “we’re all in this together” bullshit?

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model 8 points ago

We're all in this together, COMRADES.

$$$ for all, COMRADES.

1776, ASS-HOOOES

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leftists_are_trash 4 points ago

100%

I'm still working, and between state and federal and property tax, pay just a hair over $60k in taxes a year.

Won't be getting a check and instead will be funding checks for everyone else.

It was a shit idea when Yang proposed it and it's a shit idea now.

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America1stAndOnly 3 points ago

It's really weird since I'm working a job that is considered essential and getting treated worse than ever now.

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HilarityComplex 3 points ago

YES

The constant lecturing on every media outlet and coming from useful idiots out in public is driving me fucking insane.

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Fabius 1 point ago

I'm only in it with Americans, and then only half of them.

Sorry, not sorry.

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HumanSomewhere 23 points ago

this is gonna bring the markets back...i dropped a chunk of my tax returns into the market, buying things like carnival cruise lines, other tourist/entertainment stocks that were the hardest hit

most were down 70-80%

i'm up 50% already. i expect 150% returns or better

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StunLikeAnAntelope 11 points ago

How I do miss r/wallstreetbets

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1776-or-1984 2 points ago

My favorite autists besides you guys here obv

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BigCovfefe 5 points ago

Careful, you don't know where the bottom is. The unemployment claims are gonna hurt.

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HumanSomewhere 4 points ago

i think the bottom was already priced in. the hit on gdp is going to print better than people expected. most people are still working, losses in some sectors will be offset by a glut in others.

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ColludingWithAmerica 1 point ago

Maybe for day traders and the options retards over at wsb. No need to sell unless you’re gambling with rent money.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago

I'm buying more ammo.

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Joesf23 23 points ago

Fucking market shed like 900 pts after bitch pelosi said no vote today, then communist dumbfuck sanders threatened to hold up the senate bill to try and shakedown more free-bees for everybody. Every time we get close to a deal, some democrat finds a way to torpedo it. They are holding the country hostage because they know once this passes, the markets will take off and the anxiety of the unemployed will drop off a bit. Democrats are evil people hate this country

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Spezdrinksassjuice 7 points ago

Threaten to put Sanders in a room with Rand unless he plays ball

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SpezsWifesBull 5 points ago

I love it, but I’d hate to do that to my boy Rand. No person should ever be forced to interact with a communist.

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Spezdrinksassjuice 4 points ago

Good point. Probably be more harmful to Rand than anything. Having to listen to Bernie ramble about "BILLIONHARES" could make a person lose their fucking mind.

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dakin116 3 points ago

Evil bitch

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VargVikernes 2 points ago

Bolshevik Bernie

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TrumpTrain 22 points ago

Like Mark Levin said last night, “I don’t give a damn what’s in it. I wouldn’t vote for it. Not with 2 trillion in stimulus. That’s irresponsible.”

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xiao_maga_part2 19 points ago

A relief bill for Americans and small/medium businesses shouldn't be more than a page or two. But then Congress wouldn't be able to give money to their pet projects and bribe their donors.

Bailouts for industries and larger companies should be separate legislation.

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America1stAndOnly 2 points ago

I've been talking to my mom more frequently these past few days. Sadly, she has some pretty bad TDS and has had it since the 2016 election. It got so bad that politics of any kind could not even be discussed around her. Weirdly enough, she brought up politics this past week, and she was even somewhat calm. She mentioned the initial stimulus bill from the senate repulicans and how it was ridiculous about it being 240 pages. The next day when we spoke, we talked about the changes and I mentioned the 1,400 page democrat house build. I was amazed when she expressed how there was no way that could be on the up and up.

I thought it was impossible, but my mom might be recovering from her TDS. Dare I dream that maybe she can completely recover by November and vote for Trump? Well, the democrats seem to be helping her recover with their recent actions at least.

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Fabius 2 points ago

My wife is the same way. Not TDS, but she's nominally a Democrat. Lately though she's been coming around.

I think they're starting to realize they've been lied to. Over and over again. Every time the media said, "The walls are closing in" and "The beginning of the end" they've been proven wrong. After three years, it begins to wear on you.

The breaking part is the social justice stuff. I'm a glorious straight white man, she's a chicana. Whenever she hears Democrats casually talk about how straight white men are the devil, she thinks of her husband, and her mixed race son who is pretty fucking white and has an English name. It's starting to dawn on her that they're talking about her family.

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Throwaway1337 22 points ago

Relief for all, or none.

If this is truly an emergency that's so dire it requires sending tax dollars in a direct check to people, then I deserve my share even if I make 99k.

Veto this socialist garbage

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VetforTrump 22 points ago

If they pork up our emergency bill, veto it. I'd rather lose everything than to let them win...

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RedSocks157 21 points ago

Will everyone stop freaking out about this?

We have two choices here with what is happening to the economy. We can prop it up, or we can let crash out completely. Nothing would make Democrats happier than seeing the market go all the way into the shitter, because if it does, Trump loses the single biggest thing that he has going for him in November and they will hammer it day in and day out until he's out of the White House.

The economy needs to be supported, and regular Americans who are out of work need to be supported right now. It's not ideal, but the government is actually doing its damn job and protecting citizens with this - it's not some massive, unending entitlement program that will drain the federal budget for the next 100 years. It's an infusion of cash in multiple places to keep the overall economy alive.

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ElGuapo 9 points ago

Thank you for being one of the few people in this site that hasn’t broken down into hysterics in order to rile everyone else up and actually use reason and a level head to look at what’s currently happening.

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UpTrump 5 points ago

Just take it from China. Fuck China

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commies0ride0free 1 point ago

I saw somebody say were even with China now, I support that let’s just call it even and forgive our debt to them.

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Tilethewall2 -3 points ago

It is 100% unending entitlement. If you allow business to be bailed out every single time there is an issue, they never fear a hardship. I had to close my business. I do not qualify for any sort of relief. It is what it is and we will manage this. I will homeschool my 3 kids while my wife who is a federal employee will now be our main support. There are many more like me who are not fretting over our vacation home maid not showing up and getting a government handout once again. This is absurd.

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SmelterCityShotgun 10 points ago

I feel the same way. If the government told these people to close up shop, the government should be responsible for keeping them stable while their doors are closed. This isn't the sub-prime lending crisis where that industry clearly shit the bed, this is a public health problem.

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NuclearDreams 2 points ago

Exactly this. People can't seem to tell the difference between what happened in the 2008 mortgage crisis and what is happening now. These businesses aren't companies that made bad choices or who didn't save anything for a coming storm. They were literally shut down by their governments whether they wanted to or not. Now unless you're a major company who operates with millions in gross revenue, you're not going to be capable of paying expenses and employees through a month of being shut down no matter how much you had saved up.

This was unforeseen by the business world and couldn't be prepared for. They need some help.

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Tranny_Fluid 14 points ago

I think you are underestimating the economic damage that would be done letting so many businesses fail all at once. Think great depression but 10x worse. That price seems to high for me.

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BestTimeToBAlive 10 points ago

It’s not actually a “bailout” in economic terms since the companies have to pay the $ back, with interest. Only IF the $$ is solely used to pay your employees or rent, does it become a grant that doesn’t need to be paid back.

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RedSocks157 5 points ago

You literally don't know what is in the bill. The individual payments have a set number of times and amount given. Small businesses can apply for a loan to pay their employees, pay their rents/utilities and other operating expenses, ect. This will enable small businesses (less than 500 total employees) to stay in the black while this blows over.

You're lucky enough to have a vacation home that has it's own fucking maid, and you're on here attacking a bill that will keep regular people and small businesses going until the economy levels out? Give me a break. If you have enough money to own a vacation home then you're gonna be fine, but millions of workers and businesses aren't that lucky and will need a boost to get through this. If they don't get that boost, then we WILL get another depression and Trump will likely lose the November election because the Democrats will scream to the high heavens that he presided over a failed economy.

We need Trump in office. We need the economy to bounce back from this quickly. If you had your way, both of those things would be nigh-impossible.

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commies0ride0free 5 points ago

I think he was being facetious about the vacation home and maid, could be wrong tho

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RedSocks157 1 point ago

Yeah, someone else pointed that out and I think you guys are right. Still, it was pretty poorly worded.

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commies0ride0free 0 points ago

You’re right about that for sure

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americathegr888 3 points ago

He doesn't have a vacation home and maid, dude, you just misread what he was saying.

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RedSocks157 1 point ago

If that's what he meant, then it's extremely poorly-worded. The point about his plan destroying pretty much everything stands though.

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The_VeryStableGenius 0 points ago

Great, so issue loans. Not checks. Checks are a redistribution of wealth away from the responsible into the hands of the irresponsible.

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RedSocks157 14 points ago

Not true. I'm very responsible financially, but my job doesn't pay enough for me to have an emergency savings account right now. The budget is razor-thin for me, and believe me, it's not because I'm driving a Jag or living alone in a house with 4 bedrooms or some shit. I'm incredibly lucky in that my job is considered essential, but if I had to stay home and wasn't getting that paycheck, my finances would completely break down in around 2 weeks.

Wealthy =/= responsible, virtuous, or any other particular trait. There are some correlations, but at the end of the day wealthy people are just wealthy. If the economy collapses the wealthy would be fine, but millions like myself and the company I work for would be ruined and the country would suffer enormously for it.

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Shockrocks -1 points ago

If you were financially responsible you’d have enough money to sustain for several months. Most people are terrible with money. And even more still don’t realize just how bad they are with it. If you can’t sustain more than two weeks you are living right to the edge of, and likely above your means. Not saving, at any income level, is irresponsible.

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RedSocks157 0 points ago

It's very easy to criticize someone else's financial situation when yours is comfortable. You don't know me, you don't know my means, you don't know what I spend money on or where I invest it. You actually might know my gross income because I mentioned it in another post, but regardless, the bottom line is that you don't know shit about my real-life finances so criticizing them online is pretty much pointless and makes you look like a condescending ass.

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Shockrocks 1 point ago

Sorry I upset you, but I’d say I’m close to the mark given your response, the name calling gives it away. Money has a way of stressing people out, but I’ve found it’s a lot like weight - once you confront it you can change/control it. God-speed friend. Have faith in God, and do your best, that’s all any of us can do.

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RedSocks157 2 points ago

You're right that I don't have much savings, but I'm in my 20s and not making bank at my job yet so right now I'm building my career and trying to put myself in the best possible position for my future. I'm not fiscally irresponsible, I don't live above my means, and telling me to trust God after you insult my intelligence and sense of responsibility doesn't really make up for it.

Fortunately I'm still working right now while many others are laid off. And it's really none of your business, but I do have a "savings" of sorts in the form of a nice self-directed investment account that I've built for myself over the last few years. It's just difficult to access since I would have to sell things and then transfer the money which takes several days, and also a major part of my long-term goals as far as financial growth so I'm trying very hard not to break into it regardless of the situation.

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Shockrocks 2 points ago

Thanks for taking time to respond. I don’t know if you have a budget tracker, every expense and every income, every month. If you do, you are ahead of most people. If you don’t I would suggest making one. It is the easiest way to lay it all out and see where your money is going. It sounds like you are making strides and working diligently to better yourself, I applaud you and your efforts. I still stand behind my original statement. Investing is a great thing to do, after you have built a savings that will allow you to weather the loss of a job, natural disaster, etc...for several months. The savings is priority one for the reason you laid out by stating you wouldn’t make it more than two weeks without a paycheck. My intent is not to insult you, I’m sorry you took it as insult, but rather to help you protect yourself, and your hard work. Thanks again for the discourse, it is nice to be able to have a civil conversation. God-speed and keep persevering.

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NuclearDreams 1 point ago

This is fucking ridiculous. There are people out there who are fiscally responsible and still live paycheck to paycheck. It doesn't mean those people want government help or a bailout or UBI. But they are still living within their means.

Not everyone is in the same situation as you are nor do they have the same options. Not everyone can be a computer engineer or a doctor. There are some people who are trying to do good, honest hard work without complaining about it that still need each paycheck in order to survive.

Everyone should try to save a little. But to claim that everyone should have several months worth in a savings account no matter what is ignorant and it demands things which are impossible for some people. Again I'm not saying the government needs to ride in and save these people. But to act like it's a binary situation where either you have months worth of savings stored up or you're financially irresponsible is just a way of acting superior to other people and not extending any sort of thought or compassion behind what might have led a person to be in that situation.

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americathegr888 0 points ago

This won't actually prop it up, though, it will just put people who pay taxes on the hook for even more taxes.

Which will actually fuck over the economy even harder.

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RedSocks157 4 points ago

Do you really think it's as simple as that? We are so far beyond having a budget based on the federal government's actual income, and I strongly dislike that, but if we think in those terms right now the economy will crash so hard you'll see unemployment in well over 10-15% long after the virus is gone. All those people will end up on the welfare system for a VERY long time, because the businesses that employed them will have shut down completely instead of just having to send a few people home, and it will take years for all those businesses to be re-created.

It's propping it up by ensuring that those businesses and those people survive the scare financially, at which point they go back to work and the businesses reopen. That's pretty much a literal example of propping something up. I don't think you fully understand the large-scale economics and societal stuff at play here.

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americathegr888 1 point ago

Have fun living in the Communist States of America, then, because that's what this does.

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RedSocks157 0 points ago

It literally doesn't, because there is no nationalization of any companies here, but whatever man.

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Cup_O_Covfefe 0 points ago

Yes, I'm sure you'll be sooooo happy with the election fraud holding your government check.

Maybe you can take a selfie with it when Trump loses at the last minute in every single state when "more boxes of mail-in ballots are discovered".

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RedSocks157 1 point ago

And if you got your way, you could take a picture with the headlines about him losing when the economy is completely destroyed and he gets blamed for it. The state of the economy is the absolute best indicator of whether or not an incumbent president will be re-elected.

Maybe you could throw in a selfie with all the headlines screaming how Trump doesn't care about poor people and businesses for good measure.

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Cup_O_Covfefe 3 points ago

Those headlines are already all over genius.

Your and my votes don't matter if 10 ballots show up with the same "Pedro" on them.

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RedSocks157 -1 points ago

We can and we will deal with that. But right now, this is the crisis at hand. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

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Cup_O_Covfefe 4 points ago

That's whats happening to US!!

We can support this bill by calling for the election fraud to be removed!!

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Fabius 1 point ago

You let that election fraud amendment go through, its all over, buddy. You better be clear on that. Republicans will never win an election again.

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RedSocks157 1 point ago

From what I've read there's money for absentee ballots, but not forcing states to do same day registration or any of Nancy's other bullshit. Absentee ballots are already a pretty regular thing especially for the military although they are abused by the libs for sure. As long as there's no same day bullshit or any of the other crap they use to pump up their numbers, it's nothing that can't be combated. We're already cleaning up voters rolls thanks to orgs like Judicial Watch.

Also, as Hannity and O'Reilly pointed out during their discussion on the radio yesterday, there's nothing in this bill that the Republicans can't fix later especially once we reclaim our majority in the House.

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Fabius 1 point ago

It's not ideal, but the government is actually doing its damn job

The government caused this shit. The government shit all over itself and now it has to clean it up.

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magaorg 21 points ago

I heard bloomberg could give ever american a million dollars and still have billions left over. Why not just enforce this?

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Evei -1 points ago

because that would be 350trillion dollars, which he doesn't have.

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Hillarysudders 12 points ago

Woooosh.

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Barkumo 7 points ago

We know, that's the joke.

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RedSocks157 3 points ago

Do you have a link? I know the Senate bill still has the dumb art funding, but I haven't seen anything about it keeping the mail in (fraudulant) ballot bullshit from crazy Nancy's bill.

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WildSauce 7 points ago

That money is in the form of grants for states. Individual states can choose to take that money or not. The states that already do vote by mail will take it, and those that don't will ignore it. It makes no difference, and if 0.02% of the bill must be wasted on nonsense like that in order to pass then so be it.

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smackdownUSA45 19 points ago

I'll take my $1200 and pump that shit right back into the local and state economy.

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TrumpTrain 7 points ago

Literally inflation

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acebart3 5 points ago

I was thinking this too, whereas we are doing okay, we aren’t spending in luxuries like eating out. Maybe we can help save some small family owned restaurants and businesses.

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commies0ride0free 3 points ago

I will be using part of mine on a small, local pest control business

Any small local business is a good bet

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TheDrunkPooe 18 points ago

I heard Schumer is out touting that he put language in there to ensure the Trump family of businesses won't profit or benefit. I wonder if he and his fellow politicians were so noble to apply the same standard to themselves or are ethey just going to stick to insider trading and consultative kickbacks...all legal for them of course.

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GeneticsGuy 6 points ago

It literally says in the bill that "No son-in-law of the President can get loans for their business."

I bet they'll let their own children though.

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Muh_Wailing_MXbabies 4 points ago

Gov Pritzker of Illinois and HYATT should have the same rule then!!!

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Yucky 3 points ago

It also blocks members of congress and their families' businesses from receiving aid, so it's not just targeted at Trump. Although he probably would suffer the most since he owns travel/hotel related stuff and also owns the most.

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RedWhiteBlue15 17 points ago

Is there any consistent information on this thing yet? I keep seeing all of these contradicting posts. Is this the original bill or one that was modified with some of crazy nancy's bullshit? Any version of this with ballot harvesting cannot be passed. Yet people keep saying it's still in this bill for some reason.

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free-money- -9 points ago

What do you think, in your heart of hearts, that the bill they're about to vote on contains? Does it make you happy?

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VetforTrump 4 points ago

Unless it ruins them, I. Not happy.

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free-money- -1 points ago

Ooh, I hit a nerve. Keep those downvotes coming.

Right now there's a democrat talking about how they're increasing healthcare spending, saying it's still not enough. Maybe that gives you an idea.

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jb12780 16 points ago

There’s your pork. 25 billion to the mismanaged MTA led by Cuomo and his cronies.

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BadManOrange 9 points ago

Awful. The MTA is a disaster. So much corruption. If the MTA wasn't such a mess it wouldn't bother me so much. NY's transportation system needs an overhaul/update. Unfortunately, that money won't see a single real project.

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LavonAffair 2 points ago

What is MTA?

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Joeyc1 2 points ago

I'm gonna take a guess using context clues and say something like Manhattan transportation association

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DJTrump2020 2 points ago

My guess is Metro Transit Authority

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Deaditewater 2 points ago

Guessing the metro transportation authority

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HeavyVetting 8 points ago

AOC didn't want Amazon's help, so we get the bill instead.

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theycallmekek 16 points ago

500 Billion Dollars to Massive Corporations. Another 2 Trillion added to the national debt without a second thought. This is disgusting.

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Cyer6 14 points ago

And this all could've been avoided if the media hadn't hyped the shit out of this virus and caused panic and hysteria. That always causes politicians to go off the rails. Just look at mass shootings.

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Pomilui 7 points ago

Bailouts / Arts foundations? Going to watch R senator breifing

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the_pragmaticist 4 points ago

I'm opposed to any form of help to anyone in this case - it's a bullshit shutdown, tons of theater, and no value in any of it. That said, I do have a hard time with the hate on big corps in this case. I work for a F200 manufacturing corp and we're getting hit HARD. Demand for product is around zero, we're shutting down almost all factories globally in 30+ countries, and we have tens of thousands of people out of work. We cannot afford to pay them while we're shut down. I don't care how rich the CEO is - we don't have cash to cover operating expenses that don't lead to product.

It's not my company's fault that regional and local governments are forbidding people to come to work, and not our fault that a bullshit panic made our product demand evaporate, and not our fault that maintaining our investment grade and financial ratios so that we actually have investors requires that we don't sit on enough cash to idle for weeks or months on end at full cost.

The bailout isn't going into some rich leader's pockets in our case, at least - it's going to avoid unpaid furlough of our US citizens who are getting fucked over by their own government. Come to think of it, government is the cause and the solution to this issue, eh?

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nuts 2 points ago

blame republicans for wanting that.

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July_1776 16 points ago

I'm a liberal now

WHERE MY CHECK??

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Throwaway1337 9 points ago

You mean your own tax dollars, which you don't even get if you make more than 99k?

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MaxineWaters4Prez 2 points ago

It's my tax money and I want it noooooowwww.

877-TAX-NOW

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Wyomex1964 16 points ago

Why is it that the government can send millions and millions to help aid other countries but they fight over helping there own people it’s beyond me ....

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Viiiii 6 points ago

It’s easy to understand. The US gov is irredeemably corrupt, and politicians receive kickbacks for sending ludicrous amounts of money to shithole countries with little oversight.

I think saying that “I don’t understand”, even if sarcastic is counter productive. We need to shift the Overton window and start calling a spade and spade. The gov is corrupt to the point that only citizens physically removing politicians will make a difference. The swamp is NOT going to prosecute or punish itself. That is up to WE THE PEOPLE

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trump_lsd 5 points ago

Stop asking silly questions and pay your taxes you rich American. Shalom!

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OGTD1 3 points ago

We all know that money comes back around. CLINTON Foundation...

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flashersenpai 1 point ago

Do you ever wonder how the US is able to just put their military wherever they want? Bribing other countries with aid tends to help with that, among other things.

It's not so simple.

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kSfp 15 points ago

Or they could, ya know, go with President Trump earlier on about effectively cutting taxes to zero for awhile so people could recover when this finally is over.

Because they are essentially just giving us back more of our money and then effectively pumping more money into circulation.

Yay inflation!

But yes, a lot of people do need the help right now.

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REE_WUZ_KINGz 11 points ago

Been saying this for a while -- they're playing hostage with our own goddamn money and then asking us to kiss their ass as if they are creating this money out of thin air. Clown world.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

What if he takes all these huge loans then tells them to fuck off and not repay a dime. I thi k that is the plan.

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anotherunperson 7 points ago

"essentially just giving us back more of our money"

They're giving other people your money.

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grapenuts 3 points ago

they should have worked with banks to defer mortgages/rents for landlords somehow. You can live off $100 of carefully bought food for weeks. There arent many other absolutely necessary large expenses than those 2

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MaxineWaters4Prez 3 points ago

Fuck that shit, flatscreens for everyone!

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BladderBeerPoopin 2 points ago

I literally don't know anyone without a large flatscreen. 65" for $399.

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MaxineWaters4Prez 1 point ago

A throwback to the 0bama free shit check. Was supposed to stimulate American business, instead everyone bought flat screens.

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BladderBeerPoopin 2 points ago

I remember. Fucked up shit man.

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Pomilui 4 points ago

Thanks for the link.

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redpillsrus 15 points ago

Yesterday a post outlined how Dems were trying to sneak in a provision to allow volunteers to truck in absentee ballots in unlimited numbers "so people wouldn't have to go to polls". A technique used to steal votes in California. Do we know if this made it to the version being voted on? I scanned the text and couldn't find it but want to be sure.

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MakeAmericaGreat9 12 points ago

Ballot harvesting. If it's in there Trump better not sign or he signed away his reelection

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GeneticsGuy 9 points ago

This provision is not in the Senate bill, fortunately.

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MakeAmericaGreat9 3 points ago

Thank god

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KaliyugaNavigator 3 points ago (edited)

This is the only things I'm concerned with atm

Spez: Ctrl f'd for 'vote' on the current Senate bill and nothing is coming up, so hopefully those provisions have been completely removed....?

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BladderBeerPoopin 2 points ago

Same here.

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WildSauce 3 points ago

That was in the House bill, not the Senate bill. The House bill is a steaming pile of trash that shows how Pelosi cares more about scoring political points than helping Americans.

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REE_WUZ_KINGz 15 points ago

When will we know what Commie pork is in it??

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AmericaFirstMAGA88 11 points ago

As soon as some Based Patriot blows the whistle. Really wish Rand could be there

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GEOTUStheGREAT 5 points ago

Unfortunately they’ll have to pass the bill to see what’s in it 😂

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VetforTrump 4 points ago

Assume it and ull be correct. Trumpnought to read the shit they put in it publicly and then tear it up and yell at them to fix it right or go home. Of course if they fail to act rationally martial law is an option.

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HowFreeIsIt 4 points ago

Even at it’s cleanest, it’s al commie pork. Anytime the government is handing out piles of cash to “the less fortunate” and failing businesses it’sa socialist move

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jb12780 15 points ago

2 trillion is a hell of a lot of money no matter which way you way you look at it.

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InTheArmsOfThePepe 6 points ago

But going where? That's the $2T question

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Kelemor88 5 points ago

Not compared to the universal health care Bernie wants. Add like 9 trillion a year in deficit spending

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KekistanPM 6 points ago

"We know you're all hurting and need money right now...but before we give you anything, let's spend a whole day talking about how great we are for giving you anything."

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StunLikeAnAntelope 4 points ago

Liberalism survives on the constant need to keep a fantasy alive.

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Melthesender45 2 points ago

They have to or they feel they do.

Trying to load it full of pork and globalist crap even pissed off my liberal friend and he stays as far away from politics as he can get and he still heard about it.

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Spirit_of_Resistance 12 points ago

Make Politicians Afraid Again

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trescommaclub 14 points ago (edited)

Let's be real, this bill is going to hurt America more in the long term than it will help in the short term. 1400 pages of pork bullshit. Trump should veto if it passes.

Cool, keep downvoting but enjoy your socialist check and higher taxes/inflation.

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Nielspeterdejong 6 points ago

The 1400 bill wasn't passed I believe, I think this is another bill?

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HeavenlyTrumpets 6 points ago

I don't think that's what the Senate is voting on. The 1400 page bullshit is what the Houseput up.

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RedWhiteBlue15 14 points ago (edited)

I don't trust this shit at all right now. No one is giving us the full details and this is clearly different from the original Republican drafted bill. It has been increased from 1.3 to 2 trillion. So what is the extra cost for? President Trump cannot cave into this if any pork in that bill. Veto this shit if necessary and just reopen the country.

Don't give the democrats a single fucking thing. Relief aid is irrelevant if it means the destruction of our country through ballot harvesting and immigrant invasion.

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inksday 3 points ago

The original proposal was 1.8 trillion, it hasn't grown that much. Most of which I imagine is going towards the extra month of unemployment benefits.

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jb12780 14 points ago

If a democrat says he likes it (Durbin), I’d be skeptical at best.

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etnguyen03 13 points ago

VETO NOW

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JW_Rock -2 points ago

Yeah right clown.

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UpTrump 13 points ago

China and the MSM teamed up to overthrow our entire economy. And it worked.

END CHINA RIGHT NOW

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Captain_MAGA 13 points ago

Just cancel the whole thing. Trump is right, the cure can't be worse the problem.

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_RODNEY_DANGERFIELD_ 12 points ago

Know what's funny.
A comedian telling jokes in an empty room is fooling no one but himself.
A politician giving a speech in an empty room is fooling everyone and himself.
I quit stand up for 12 years.
Know what I did?
Sold aluminum siding.
Came back.
Made it big.
Think about it as you listen to these idiots.

(RIP Rodney Dangerfield)

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free-money- 12 points ago

Chuck Schumer: "It was worth an extra day or two to improve this legislation."

Don't worry everyone, they're not pushing bad things! They just improved it!

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Bax101 12 points ago

Time to buy more guns.

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VTmaga 2 points ago

And a bigger safe, I suppose.

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Jcholl9 12 points ago

What a joke man... Trump should take this Bill and set fire to it on live TV!

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TheOutlawPepeWales 3 points ago

He's not going to get good press no matter what he does, so he might as well do the right thing or it's just going to come back next flu season. The federal government doesn't have the authority to soak the taxpayers to "make everyone whole".

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jb12780 11 points ago

Enough with the speeches just fucking vote already.

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HeavenlyTrumpets 2 points ago

no kidding

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DeathBattleFan123 11 points ago

I'm just going to be using whatever money I get to pay my taxes with.

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AIDS1255 3 points ago

I'm not touching it. It's gonna sit in my savings account and collect interest until we see how it will be paid back (via higher taxes or something like that)

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VetforTrump 1 point ago

Interest? Spend it, its yours

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Satellite 11 points ago

Can someone bullet point what pork was added for me. Currently working

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trescommaclub 8 points ago

"We have to pass it to find out what's in it"

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zaneosak 11 points ago

This is different than the package Trump was endorsing Sunday afternoon? I thought they went back to that after Pelosi failed to put her wishlist in a house bill.

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TurdSammich 10 points ago

idiots.. " we turned the 70 billion to 130 billion.. is it enough?? Probably not..."

Fuck yeahhh DEBT! Thanks media hype machine!

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VetforTrump 1 point ago

Debt will be meant gless when we win. Its never getting paid back

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MetallicOpeth 10 points ago

if that $400 million for the voting passes America is completely fucked

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ohhwerd 10 points ago

oh fuck off schumer, where is my tiny violin for the democrats, boo fucking hoo

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unicornpoop 10 points ago

What has our congress sold us out for now? $1200 won't even pay bills for one month.

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SameCookiePseudonym 10 points ago

they will be passing another one in a month, except it will be against a backdrop of overflowing hospitals and 10k+ new deaths per day

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Chalwa222 -7 points ago

Ok Cuomo... this whole thing will blow over in a few weeks once people go back to work and move on with their lives.

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SameCookiePseudonym 22 points ago

I would love to be wrong, but that's what the numbers suggest. Number of new deaths per day doubling every 5 days, currently at 140.... 140 * 2^(30/5) = 8,960 deaths per day in 30 days.

Yes, social distancing will slow the spread, but we won't see its effects until at least a week from now. Deaths are a lagging 2-3 week indicator. So acceleration of death numbers is unlikely to decline within next 3-4 weeks.

I'm sure you've seen it, but the report from ICL (which most governments are listening to) is quite sobering: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

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DemsFuckKids 5 points ago

but we found the cure

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HilarityComplex 4 points ago

You're trying to project simple equations onto the emergent, chaotic flow of nature.

It doesn't work. Never has, never will.

These same sorts of models are used to build your weather forecasts for two weeks out at a time with an abysmal degree of success.

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trump_lsd 2 points ago

You’re going to be downvoted by the “iTs jUsT tHe fLu” crowd (half of this site) for providing math & a source lol

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Chalwa222 1 point ago

It's all hype my friend. This is the way most diseases start, then they begin to plateau. Only people who are dying from this were already on their death beds. Italy has such high rates, because they cannot keep themselves from kissing each other when saying hello. New Yorks numbers are currently growing because the disease is still relatively new to the area, and because the filthy leftist degenerates have shit hygiene.

You will see, as Presidents Trump's approval rating continues to sky rocket over his balanced approach, there will be less and less coverage. Just watch. They are already trying to censor him.

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trump_lsd 24 points ago

“Only people who are dying from this were already on their death beds.” - A person who sticks their head in the sand to find comfort. Yikes.

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GaiusOrangeJulius 1 point ago

Two important facts: 1. No one knows what the mortality rate is. 2. The mortality rate is much lower than the current numbers suggest because of all the undiagnosed cases.

Okay, here's a third bonus fact 3. Stopping the U.S. economy will kill more people than any virus could, and if you shouldn't need me to explain why.

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trump_lsd 1 point ago

All I’m saying is that perfectly healthy people are catching this and dying from it.

Why exactly did you waste effort commenting something useless? Your 1 & 2 “facts” are in complete contradiction. Concerning the third “fact” - ...than “any” virus could? What a ridiculous thing to say. People made it through the Depression, they’ll make it through whatever this turns out to be.

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Chalwa222 1 point ago

"Yikes". You sound like a r/politics cuck. Fuck off faggot

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trump_lsd 1 point ago

Only faggots still use reddit. Though, you’re a person who has the inability to admit when they’re incorrect, then gets angry about it..you’ll fit right in.

... continue reading thread?
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honolulu_blue 1 point ago

Remember - every day in 2019 about 7700 people died in the USA. Even now, it isn't clear that the number will be higher in 2020.

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trump_lsd 5 points ago

I wish we could bet on comments here. I don’t think things will be as horrible as what that dude is saying, but I also don’t think things will just simply blow over and we’ll “move on” in a few weeks time.

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Spezdrinksassjuice 1 point ago (edited)

It's not "just the flu" but this isnt the end of days.

I'm leaning toward people will be over this shit by summer and the media onto a new "scheme" by then

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ohpleaseuhhelpame 6 points ago

a reminder of what a socialized nation would look like...poverty level living for anyone but the ruling class.

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BathouseBarry 10 points ago

Whats in the damn bill!!!!!???

THIS IS OUR MONEY / WEALTH

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pedeypete 9 points ago

You've gotta pass it to know what's in it.

Worked for Obummercare.

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GideonBayle 6 points ago

ive been all over about this. its scaring the shit out of me that we haven't seen the bill yet. its gonna be a fucking train wreck. spineless GOP probably caved to over half of the Dems fucked up demands.

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Captnyestrday 1 point ago

There is a very good chance of this. Almost certainly caved to a few. The Dems are flaunting it already. Chuck was so proud of their "Improvements"

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TheMutualist 10 points ago

So the 'new' Senate bill is almost exactly the same as the original Senate bill. All it does differently is give the arts endowments some money and provide some additional oversight... on loans. Which have to be paid back.

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Pomilui 8 points ago

was it $500 million in arts endowments (arts = rich money laundering)?

SPEZ: I'm all for small / mid business loans, and as long as the IRS / FBI isn't the oversite org, maybe it will be ok.

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_bryan 10 points ago

Ballot harvesting?

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UpTrump 10 points ago

IS ABORTION IN THE BILL OR NOT

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flashersenpai 1 point ago

goooood question

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Captain_Triips 10 points ago (edited)

Four Republican senators are warning that they will oppose fast-tracking the $2 trillion coronavirus response package unless a “massive drafting error” in the legislation, which they say would create an incentive for employers to lay off employees, is fixed.

these rich morons think an extra $600 a week will make people not ant to go back to work. Have they ever seen an unemployment check? They are like $400

and you only get like 26 weeks worth

"Wow, that puts me up to $13k a year. Fuck you hedge fund job"

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SameCookiePseudonym 1 point ago

I agree with the reporters questions, the optics are really bad. Aren't there a max number of weeks of unemployment anyway?

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SameCookiePseudonym 1 point ago

Can you do that? There are similar problems with immigration and max visa length, e.g. people in Thailand going to Cambodia overnight on day 89 to "reset" their 90 day clock. The solution is to make the limit "90 of the last 180 days". You could probably do something similar with unemployment.

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SameCookiePseudonym 1 point ago

I agree. But the optics aren't good. We'll see if the democrats choose to fight it or not

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buco 3 points ago

Bolshevik Bernie just announced he wants to hold up the vote too because of "Muhney for comphanies."

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AmericaFirstMAGA88 9 points ago

Would rather not watch a pbs stream... but I want to keep and eye on this to see if anyone calls out some hidden stipulations involving vote harvesting or green-new diversity bs.

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AmericaFirstMAGA88 5 points ago

Thank you, Pede MAGA/KAG

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

Wtf, updated u because I cannot see a reason they downvoted u.

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Pomilui 9 points ago

PBS?!!!! BRING ON THE WHITE HOUSE CHANNEL OR CSPAN FFS!

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YOLOSwag_McFartnut 9 points ago

Our government is so ridiculously dysfunctional.

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ralphw 9 points ago

What a bunch of crooks and liars. And pedos. And idiots. A small computer program could do this job in 1/10000th the time and for far less $$.

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YOLOSwag_McFartnut 2 points ago

while (true)

{

Console.WriteLine("Useless bullshit");

}

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Strategerium 5 points ago

Dems lied people died.

Dems lied people died.

Dems lied people died.

Dems lied people died.

Dems lied people died.

Dems lied people died.

....

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PyroSphere 9 points ago

I sure hope they don't hurt themselves doing their job. Obvioulsy, the dims practice the 'pace yourself, don't race yourself' mantra.

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LittleBlackKat 9 points ago

Nothing that Congress does actually helps the American people. They a bunch of useless scumbags.

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GaiusOrangeJulius 8 points ago

What a bunch of blow-hards. This is an exercise is listening to people who love to hear themselves talk. I don't trust anyone who talks just to talk.

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Haram__ 8 points ago

Can't stand listening to crying chuck

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Evergreene 8 points ago (edited)

just tuned in with some dude telling a very emotional story. Is this about voting on the Chinese virus package or something else?

edit - NM, he's on topic now

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SirSeizureSalad 4 points ago

It's always about something else.

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Evergreene 3 points ago

this is this stuff that absolutely drives me mad. do they all have a story to tell, can they just talk about the pros and cons of what is being proposed then vote .. they are using too many extra words .. lol

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Yeti 8 points ago

Lots of Pelosi's porkfest are in the Senate's project.

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astro_eng 8 points ago

Bye freedom, it was nice while it lasted

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astro_eng 19 points ago

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

Ronald Reagan

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45IsNumberOne 7 points ago

Just vote and shut up already

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VisualScience 7 points ago

Turns out this bill has a massive incentive for companies to lay off workers. No shit. That's always the result of free money for no work.

https://archive.is/wip/pbnUd

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Rainman 2 points ago

Interesting just how bad professional legislators are at writing legislation huh?

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Muh_Wailing_MXbabies 7 points ago (edited)

**UPDATE: GOP Senators Graham, T. Scott, R. Scott & Sasse will hold a news conf at 2pm ET abt COVID bill, warning they may block it due to concerns abt "a strong incentive for employees to be laid off instead of going to work." @OANN

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sharkman100 3 points ago

I fucking HATE rick Scott. Terrible terrible terrible republican and person

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JW_Rock 1 point ago

I'm from FL and he was a great Gov. You might not agree with everything he does but the man can lead.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago

Rick Scott vetoed a bill to end permanent, life time, til the day you die, alimony and shared parental custody. He's a slime ball.

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Spezdrinksassjuice 7 points ago

Linda Graham can sure talk a good game on Hannity (he's on right now) but every time I want to believe him...i think about how he is trying to sneak in citizenship for illegals and bullshit like that in his plans and I get pissed.

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Spezdrinksassjuice 3 points ago

Typical politician. Says what you want in public but behind closed doors he is probably kicking it back with Dems having a good laugh and a cocktail.

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sharkman100 4 points ago

Bad

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Chestbras 3 points ago

On one hand, you'd think money could be used to pay student loans, and buy stock on the cheaps, but the people receiving this will dump it on a new tv and such. So, short term inflation.

It should be used only to buy 100% Made in America.

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nuts 2 points ago

the whole point of a stimulus bill is for people to buy stupid shit (hopefully from local, small businesses), or just pay bills, to drive some growth. this isn't even a permanent change, it's a provisional payment to assuage the damage caused by the corona virus. stop bitching over every little thing and look at it from another point of view.

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unicornpoop 2 points ago

I applied for unemployment, and it is less than a third of what my normal salary was. And I have 2 dependents.

edit: I made about $1000 a week. Unemployment says my payments will be $275 a week.

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Tomboy_Patriot 2 points ago

Source

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Thatunknownguy 7 points ago

yay! debt!

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Hillarys_Diaper 1 point ago

I'm exhausted.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

I'm pissed...it is getting close to time to do more

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Hillarys_Diaper 1 point ago

Trump is racing for March 31st. Follow the money. The stocks are rebounding. Short term bond yields are in high demand because they are negative right now. This bailout package is causing investors to dig us out of Corrections In our negative stock market gains.

We are climbing out and defying the Odds pede.....By christ KEEP PRAYING!!! There is hope yet!!!!

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Nrdrsr 7 points ago

it's rubiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

💦 💦 💦 💦 💦 💦 💦 💦 💦

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AbrahamLincoln 5 points ago

Quick everyone, dispel with the fiction!

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SameCookiePseudonym 2 points ago

literally opened the page for this comment

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trump_lsd 6 points ago

ITT: No one has any idea what’s going on, or what even constitutes a “good” solution. The people in government don’t either. Chaos time, baby.

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HilarityComplex 5 points ago

Top down management of society causes myriad and numerous unforeseen consequences.

We know that.

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Spezdrinksassjuice 6 points ago

Say you were a 19 year old in college and weren't working and didn't file taxes, would you still get 1200 bucks?

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SameCookiePseudonym 4 points ago

I don't think so. But if you're using 2018 returns, then presumably you were a dependent for your parents. So they would get some $ for you, I think.

(not an accountant)

EDIT: That's if the minimum requirement is still even in there. I've got no clue

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thatalexchick 6 points ago

Ugh im going to throw up. STFU chuck

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Indianapede 6 points ago

At work here. Did they pass it yet?

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mikeroolz 16 points ago

It had to be delayed when suddenly Cory Booker began fellating Cuck Schumer right there on the Senate floor. It was a disgusting display, and very very disrespectful.

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sustainable_saltmine 7 points ago

nipples protruding

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KaliyugaNavigator 2 points ago

nipples micropenis protruding

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mikeroolz 2 points ago

micropenis protruding inverting

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Indianapede 4 points ago

Was that his Spartacus moment or Caligula moment? Impeach them for withholding aid!

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GaiusOrangeJulius 2 points ago

Agreed. I remember when Dems would wait to become president and be in the privacy of the oval office before resorting to such unnatural acts!

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AbrahamLincoln 2 points ago

He's going to have to pay two actresses to pretend to be his girlfriend to make everyone forget about this.

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FredBoulderdash 3 points ago

Nope, still making their dumb 5 minute speeches. Just get it done, imo.

Anyone, please correct me if I am wrong.

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unclesmeege1 6 points ago

I'd appreciate some help from a bona fide pede! Can Nobody post to reddit's The Donald anymore??!! (This LOOKS) like the goto site but I'm wondering if TheDonald is coming back if they can get moderators? Thanks, Smeege

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StunLikeAnAntelope 10 points ago

You can still post to Reddit T_D but don't bother. This is the new site. It shall be bigger, stronger, and shall achieve speeds previously thought impossible by mankind.

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DangerousMAGAtour 9 points ago

Its never coming back. Reddit will die off first.

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BigCovfefe 5 points ago

What is reddit?

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Warren_Puffitt 5 points ago

I mean, who would really want to, and who would go there to look at it? That site got the Kung Pao Flu before it was trendy and everybody beat feet. This is the place.

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trump_lsd 1 point ago

Imagine still using reddit lmao

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flashersenpai 1 point ago

The mods closed off TD on reddit because they were being throttled, then replaced by reddit admin's mods. Not sure if it's open again, but if it is, that's not the same people anymore.

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free-money- 6 points ago

"Pass the doggone bill! Now!"

continues talking

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Liberty-Or-Death 4 points ago

Lost my job. In 2019, I sold some of my 401k to help out my mom and dad. My mom was on a ventilator twice last year. I paid off their mortgage. Now with doing that, it puts me outside the stimulus income range. Now, my job paid nowhere near tgat number. Fucked again.

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FakeNametag 2 points ago

I haven't looked at the details for over a week, but I think they were going to determine eligibility for the checks based on 2018 income. Many people have not filed for 2019 yet and they just extended tax day out to July.

I'm hopeful. I had unusually high income in 2019, so if they use 2019 income I'll be fucked too.

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AbrahamLincoln 6 points ago

Wasn't the senate telling us they did this last night?

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AmericaFirstMAGA88 21 points ago (edited)

They do everything so slowly because of set procedure. I believe they still have to have another vote or 3, followed by a 2 week paid vacation in Bermuda, then they send it to the house for a humdiddily-doo of a good time.. AND THEN it goes to Trump to be signed.

As is Tradition.

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commies0ride0free 3 points ago

Wait, you’re saying this ISNT what the founding fathers wanted?

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ohpleaseuhhelpame 5 points ago

The agreed last night and would be back this am to vote..

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minotaurbeach 6 points ago

Without Trump, none of these Democrats would have done anything, but take off to their secluded masons ignoring the cries for help from common wage citizens, and yet again- which is commonplace in California, give our actual aid to a Foreign government they wish to control now that it is in a weak state.. or to pass abortions for everybody when it is over- cause- that might misplace migrants waiting to come get their free welfare paid for by the workers left to die.

Our economy actually colapses with out American workers.

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Chodeus 7 points ago

That makes me feel a lot better! This bill is still wayyyy too massive thought!

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Jcholl9 2 points ago

As long as it doesn't fund any democrat project I'm happy...

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American-Free-Man 2 points ago

Also says that the bill is only 1% different from what it was. It isn't this mass re-working that the Dems are trying to claim to save their image.

So in other words the Dimwits didn't swoop in to save America like they want people to believe. Shit after I heard chucky on the floor last night that's what I thought. *shocked I tell ya, Shocked!

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joebud 6 points ago

How can you even watch this, Democrats piss me off too much and I can't skip ahead when it's live.

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DAR1783 2 points ago

Are we? Its an improvement over the house bill from Pelosi. But I'm not clear on which bill and what's going on. That's probably intentional on congress's part.

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LightBeacons 6 points ago

Schumer stroking himself in full view of NOBODY! Senate Chamber is empty

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IsrorOrca 5 points ago

Do we have a link to the bill to read the exact text? I don't understand the payout situation... It sounds like if you make $95,000, you'd get the full amount and if you made over, the amount decreased.

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jb12780 5 points ago

So the vote will happen in about 6 hours right after everyone says their piece

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YOLOSwag_McFartnut 5 points ago

Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap.

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Nrdrsr 5 points ago

those people in the front are not social distancing at all

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Daemoness 2 points ago

Only filthy plebs are infected , not important people. Not even joking ; that's probably what they think : Remember when Joe Biden publicly complained about tourists in DC and how bad they smelled?

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MericatheMAGANIFICEN 5 points ago

So my question is...if I am still working during this downtime( I'm a healthcare worker making a few dollars over minimum wage) am I going to get a piece of this or since I've been working im not considered an "eligible individual"?

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Muh_Wailing_MXbabies 4 points ago

Yes

Based off tax data from 2018

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Tomboy_Patriot 1 point ago

What if you haven’t filed 2018 taxes?

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Bunkerbaby 1 point ago

Then you get nothing

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JusticeForJuicy 3 points ago

I am pretty sure every individual who earned less than $75,000 will get the $1200, regardless of lost wages or not. Plus they are adding $500 per child.

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magaorg 3 points ago

Or under $150,000 joint income with a spouse. (thank god for my lovely wife that raises my kids!)

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The_VeryStableGenius 1 point ago

Is it still pegged to those who actually worked and paid taxes?

Or are those on the government dole with 8 kids which haven't been impacted at all getting 5.2k?

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JusticeForJuicy 1 point ago

Who the hell made less than $2500?

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the_pragmaticist 1 point ago

Realistically speaking, they're not out of work because of this and therefore minimally impacted, no?

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white_redoubt 1 point ago

Not if they started working this year. What about a house wife?

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Bunkerbaby 2 points ago

A lot of people In school in 2018

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lefty295 1 point ago

I read that part got taken out.

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GeneticsGuy 3 points ago

You still get it from what I understand.

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sharkman100 -1 points ago

What if you only got $2 back? So I only get $2??

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unicornpoop 1 point ago

They are using your tax return as verifiable AGI, as well as dependents.

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IsrorOrca 1 point ago

The question I have...Is there a hard cutoff at $75k (or per media sources now, $95k) or is it a diminishing return if you made over the $75k (or $95k)?

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HeavenlyTrumpets 1 point ago

The last version I saw was diminishing. For every $100 you make over $75,000, you receive $5 less. So it diminished up to $99,000, and that's when it disappears.

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mty_green_go -3 points ago

Fucking bull shit faggot shit

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Ipray4potus 5 points ago

President Trump said he was happy with the bill last I heard.

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TheMutualist 1 point ago

Because it's essentially the Senate bill with dumb House additions like arts funding.

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CmonGubMintGibMe 5 points ago

Been away from my desk most of the day... did any of Pelosi bullshit make it in:? Daca, ballot harvesting, etc...?

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PoohClimbsTrees 2 points ago

I don't think we even have the text yet

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sustainable_saltmine 4 points ago

[Exclaims in Dark Helmet] "What are you debating!? You're always debating! JUST VOTE!

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Muh_Wailing_MXbabies 4 points ago

Jay Sekulow said he doesn’t think we’ll see a final vote until Friday (this was per his radio broadcast at lunchtime)

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lmao 4 points ago

if they're still going to vote why are these deceivers saying they're about to pass it?

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baufan2025 2 points ago

They've already indicated on both sides itll be passed.

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Satellite 2 points ago

Just like the last two times

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EggOfDelusion 4 points ago

All I want to know is if I'm getting my Trumpbux. Is it means tested again?

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FuckPlebbit 9 points ago

Won't matter considering Pelosi looks to be blocking it again, even with Schumer saying there's an agreement in place.

She's so drunk she probably doesn't know shes fucking her party over.

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model 4 points ago

Let her block it.

Trump should just issue an executive order declaring all forms of income tax theft and increase tarrifs on everything to pay for essential government operations, hell print $$$ from the fed to make it work out. The economy will explode.

Then charge every congressman who's been on the hill for over 10 years with wholesale treason, do it the democrat way, charge first, then investigate until you find something

Meanwhile, hit China with a virus bill equal to our current outstanding foreign debt

Also, mass deportations of all illegals

Also, defund PBS and PP

Also, defund universities

problems solved

bill clinton is a rapist

lock her up

Epstein didnt kill himself

his name was seth rich.

ok im done now

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unicornpoop 2 points ago

clean bill or bust.

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The_VeryStableGenius 2 points ago

Trumpbux is theft, just like all wealth redistribution.

It ought to be a loan, or nothing at all.

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trump_lsd 3 points ago

Thanks for the insight, Chuck. You lost your job due preventative measures to combat a global pandemic? Oh, your state also closed all non-essential businesses? Just take out a low-interest loan from the federal govt! Shalom!

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EggOfDelusion 1 point ago

They already stole our money. We are just getting it back.

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Captain_MAGA 4 points ago

Trump needs to bend China over the table after this. No lube, go in hard, fuck them with higher tariffs. Make it financially unfeasible for businesses to work with them and bring those jobs back home.

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POWESHOW 4 points ago

Yo, so I’ll be real with you all. I have a salary position. I’m in no risk of losing my job. Based upon 2018 taxes, I’ll get the full 1,200. Based up 2019 taxes I would get zero.

I am literally benefitting more from this a fuck ton. I’m currently scanning Amazon for new TVs. I fucking love TrumpBux.

God bless you Donald Trump

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whocaresguy420 8 points ago

Shop local pls. Avoid CIAmazon and China shit.

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trump_lsd 5 points ago

Because local stores manufacture their TVs in-house, totally.

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308freedom 6 points ago

Make Zenith Great Again.

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Snugmeatsocks 7 points ago

Shit son, that’s your money. You’re just being allowed to spend it on yourself. You earned that money. It was stolen from you

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BitcoinTrump 2 points ago

I'm buying some more BTC, surprise I know.

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KekistanPM 4 points ago

They bloviate while people who lost their jobs worry about their families.

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Omgwtfbbq 4 points ago

There’s still a ton of pork in it, I’m guessing. This isn’t the time or the place.

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DemsFuckKids 1 point ago

hopefully trump makes sure it's a great deal

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Elephant_Trump 4 points ago

Can someone with knowledge and understanding of this bill explain what exactly this will do to our voting requirements/mechanism?

Does it allow "ballot harvesting"?

What are the stipulations on the "vote by mail" aspect?

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CarlosDangerrr 4 points ago

Well in what I think is the most recent text put out last night (link below - page 141), it has removed the $2500 requirement.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16v7waHtp7mIwTSr7kEkdmzh5cMIM-JFj/view

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Cup_O_Covfefe -18 points ago

Oh fantastic, so all the illegals get a check too.....

Fuck these cucksuckers.

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lefty295 1 point ago

I thought the less than $2500 part got removed?

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Jcholl9 4 points ago

I really hope this bill won't fund murdering babies or fund any crazy dem projects...

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sustainable_saltmine 4 points ago

While Nancy keeps playing her games, half of all the gains the Dow made today dropped in the last half hour. It was up over 1000 or so, but now only up 495.

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GaiusOrangeJulius 4 points ago

What if Don Jr. wants to get a burger from a small burger joint that got $ from the bill?

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HowFreeIsIt 6 points ago

He pays the tab and leaves a hefty tip. Because he's a classy individual

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LightBeacons 4 points ago

how long are D- Senators going to ramble and rant before the actual VOTE? Just STFU and VOTE. Just pass the POS and get it done.

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magabirdlady 4 points ago

Did Pelosi close Congress or this fake news.

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RedSocks157 4 points ago

You must be joking. She really shut it down rather than have the vote? They're probably trying to put together a strategy to tank it. The American people and economy don't have this kind of time right now, fuck.

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RedSocks157 2 points ago

Apparently Amash was saying he might kill that. Because of course Amash would do that. He's such a fucking idiot.

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RedSocks157 2 points ago

He actually is such a traitor to conservative ideals that he switched to independent. There was an amazing video of this woman crushing him during a townhall during that fiasco. They'll still get the D's off the hook though.

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Tomboy_Patriot 3 points ago

Cunt

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BestTimeToBAlive 2 points ago

They should ALL not get paid until the country is fully back running.

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Truglow 3 points ago

I say screw the money handouts. Maybe help for the small business community and the medical profession but this is ridiculous. I myself don't want other people's money. Handouts and democratic pork in this is going to come home to roost in a few years and it's not going to be pretty.

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Tylerlc22 3 points ago (edited)

So what happens if I have a new account than the one I had from 2018 returns... WILL MYUH MONEY FINE ME!?

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n0kx 3 points ago

I really hope we get term limits for Congress in the very very near future. It should end a lot of the BS we're seeing.

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BadManOrange 3 points ago

I'll gladly take the money. I have lots of projects around the house that need to get done, so it'll get put back into the economy as long as people are able to get to work.

Anyway, I'd love some no bullshit clauses. Businesses that make over $500M of annual revenue should be barred from applying the stimulus to anything except the purchase of tangible assets in the United States or non-executive compensation for employees based in the US. No stock buybacks, no giving execs bonuses, or other bs. Invest in the US.

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whiskey_shitz 2 points ago

Yep if they send me a check it's going right back onto the economy. That's a big part of why they do it I think.

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I-am-but-an-egg 3 points ago

Me too!

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whiskey_shitz 1 point ago

You'll shoot your eye out /s

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FuckPlebbit 1 point ago

I've been eyeing up a 1911 ever since a friend of mine got one, so I think that's what I'll be using it for.

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Foobar789 3 points ago

Where is the Fast Forward button for these wind bags... Ugh. Just vote already!!

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Tatanka 3 points ago

So does anyone know how much each person/household getting?

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JusticeForJuicy 1 point ago

Last I read its $1200 for individuals making less than $75,000/yr plus $500 for each child.

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AbrahamLincoln 2 points ago

Good. This bill should be 10 pages long.

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iminurbas3 3 points ago

Pretty sure they removed the lower barrier so you could have made $1 and get it if you filed

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iminurbas3 1 point ago

You should fill out the non-filers info here:

https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/non-filers-enter-payment-info-here

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whocaresguy420 2 points ago

worked sales in 2018 made jack shit because I got paid my commissions in 2019 due to a long sales cycle. made under 10k and my accountant said not to file last yr since it was under that 10k.

looks like no trumpbux for me and I recently lost my job.

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MothershipV 3 points ago

It says it will use your 2019 return, which is the one you would've filed this year in 2020

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whocaresguy420 2 points ago

That's good at least. Thanks.

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Brokenhammerthing 2 points ago (edited)

Im all for people getting help if they really need it, but the comment at 1:05 is what’s wrong with the world today:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gTfuY0T557o

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UpTrump 2 points ago

That dude is a fucking idiot

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Brokenhammerthing 4 points ago

Ultra mega idiot. News flash. If you’re in debt you don’t have money!!!

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Spacecat518 2 points ago

Is there a way Trump can release some sort of emergency funds to citizens without congress? Or line veto what they’re trying to pass now?

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DaLaohu 2 points ago

Line vetos have been ruled unconstitutional.

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