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posted ago by Aclothorsomething

These two agencies need to be gutted and reformed immediately following this pandemic.

Before this Chinese Virus arrived in the USA, the FDA and CDC were in full PR meltdown about "EVALI" AKA, the "vape epidemic."

From September 2019, until late January 2020, both FDA and CDC were consumed by this absurd quintain-- and it is not the reason--but rather evidence of how far they have their eyes off the target of public health.

"SAVE THE CHILDREN!" was their best argument against ecigarettes, but the facts never lined up with their narrative and the artificial crisis over vaping and "EVALI."

Legal e-cigarettes, used by adults to quit tobacco did not cause a single injury during the vape pandemic. Not in the USA, and not in the rest of the world where millions of people continue to vape in safety even today.

Black market cannabis cut with Vitamin E and laced with the drug 'spice' did cause injury and death in America. It was explained very openly and early by the magazine Leafly. Yet because of their (CDC/FDA) lies sustained for 6 months, many adults switched back to tobacco, and many kids continued to pick up their dab pens and get sick.

FDA and CDC are public health failures. Change my mind!

They had mostly lost international credibility for un-truthful PR and dubious regulatory responses during the fake EVALI outbreak (See Public Health England's many responses to the FDA's coming vape bans). Now, their inability to field functioning virus tests and inability to modify the bureaucratic testing criteria in a meaningful way reveal that they are incapable of handling a real crisis.

They are only capable of managing the crisis if it is the one that they make up, but this one was made in China, not Washington, DC.

If GEOTUS turns out to be right, and safe mix of chloroquine+azithromycin is an efffective course of treatment, May HHS and its corrupt subsidiaries suffer every lump of the Trump Curse. You are fired!

These two agencies need to be gutted and reformed immediately following this pandemic. Before this Chinese Virus arrived in the USA, the FDA and CDC were in full PR meltdown about "EVALI" AKA, the "vape epidemic." From September 2019, until late January 2020, both FDA and CDC were consumed by this absurd quintain-- and it is not the reason--but rather evidence of how far they have their eyes off the target of public health. "SAVE THE CHILDREN!" was their best argument against ecigarettes, but the facts never lined up with their narrative and the artificial crisis over vaping and "EVALI." Legal e-cigarettes, used by adults to quit tobacco did not cause a single injury during the vape pandemic. Not in the USA, and not in the rest of the world where millions of people continue to vape in safety even today. Black market cannabis cut with Vitamin E and laced with the drug 'spice' did cause injury and death in America. It was explained very openly and early by the magazine Leafly. Yet because of their (CDC/FDA) lies sustained for 6 months, many adults switched back to tobacco, and many kids continued to pick up their dab pens and get sick. FDA and CDC are public health failures. Change my mind! They had mostly lost international credibility for un-truthful PR and dubious regulatory responses during the fake EVALI outbreak (See Public Health England's many responses to the FDA's coming vape bans). Now, their inability to field functioning virus tests and inability to modify the bureaucratic testing criteria in a meaningful way reveal that they are incapable of handling a real crisis. They are only capable of managing the crisis if it is the one that they make up, but this one was made in China, not Washington, DC. If GEOTUS turns out to be right, and safe mix of chloroquine+azithromycin is an efffective course of treatment, May HHS and its corrupt subsidiaries suffer every lump of the Trump Curse. You are fired!
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Mad_Hattie 6 points ago

Very good points.

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Aclothorsomething [S] 4 points ago

If it was on topic, I would give a shout out to all the thousands of small business owners running vape shopw that have endeavored to help people quit tobacco with e-ciagerettes, only to be be stripped of their first amendment rights to explain the best strategies for doing that. FDA considers helping somebody quit tobacco a "medical" procedure and forbids vape companies from discussing it with customers.

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Mad_Hattie 2 points ago

Using children as human shields to take rights away is the same thing they are doing today and you pointing that out is good.

How many are still trying to do prohibition 2.0 even now by closing bars and banning alcohol as "nonessential".

Just like how they combatted black market thc vapes by banning flavors.

How they created the TSA.

Security theater does. Not. Work.

And what sense does discouraging groups of more than 10 if 75 people are in the store with you grabbing more toilet paper??

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whoscout 3 points ago

100% agree CDC and FDA should be replaced entirely with new agencies starting over and not allowed to hire previous CDC/FDA employees. Though to be fair in the vaping case, is it a lie if no one believes you? :)

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556x45mm 2 points ago

I smoked cigs for 20 years, I switched to vape pen back in Feb 2019, never touched a cigarette again. Problem is now, my vape pen is a Camel product called Fuse Alto, the vape pods are made in China. I'm going to look for a new vape product that's made in USA, anyone know of any? (Preferably a pen with disposable pods)

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Mad_Hattie 2 points ago

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556x45mm 2 points ago

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Mad_Hattie 2 points ago

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