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TheMagaMan 120 points ago

Over 80 percent of all deaths in us from virus are those over 65any from a nursing home. Chance of dying within 20 to 50 is less than .2 source https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-new-age-analysis-of-risk-confirms-young-adults-not-invincible/ I'm just gonna keep posting this now. I'm convinced this whole thing is the common cold and the rest is Chinese propaganda

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HockeyMom4Trump 100 points ago

This is article makes it seem like young people are getting more infected, but when you read through the article and look at the stats, it is low. I think the MSM is really causing hysteria

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Nostradumas 93 points ago

Yes the MSM wants you to be afraid. The purpose of the news is not to inform, it is to influence opinion and create outcomes

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deplorablewhitey77 64 points ago

Ohio health department wont turn over data, it was showing Ohio had lowest national average, so Monday Acton stopped releasing data. Shutting down primaries, and businesses in a power grab. I know no one who has tested positive. I do know a month ago, some virus hit and alot of people had it.

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RahkeemTheMachine 71 points ago

Get President Trump to suggest postponing the presidential elections. Shit will get fixed in a week.

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ChestyPuller502 33 points ago

This is the way to go here. Trump stays President until things get back to normal. Everyone is back to work in 2 weeks.

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deplorablewhitey77 20 points ago

Hillary and others have already started pushing for all mail in ballots.

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HockeyMom4Trump 6 points ago

Yeah, no. Not loving that idea at all.

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain 9 points ago

Unfortunately, this is not allowed by the Constitution. My understanding is that he cannot exceed his term in office. If it came to that, the rules of succession would go into affect, and we would likely end up with a dem. I was reading about this the other day.

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EX818 6 points ago

I heard stipulations involving different rules while under a national emergency. Must be fake news... time to research for myself

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain 5 points ago

Well, it was just one article I skimmed through, so it may not have been 100% accurate, but they said the law is very clear, and he couldn't possibly stay in office longer than normal. I do agree with the idea though. If he did say he was going to postpone the election, this shit would end by the end of the day.

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago

They've canceled or postponed everything else. Might as well keep up the trend.

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RumDrummer 24 points ago

My whole family went through something towards the end of November.. These covid symptoms sound really familiar.

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unicornpoop 20 points ago

My whole family had unusual respiratory symptoms for the whole month of January. We took medicine and rested. Just took forever to go away.

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RumDrummer 10 points ago

Same, it seemed like it was going to last forever.

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Sumarongi 4 points ago

I had a ‘mailaise’ for three weeks in January. Lots of people in restaurants etc coughing

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DocOne 5 points ago

My boss did too, around Dec/Jan and was hacking his ass off for a month or so, a real dry cough, no fever but did have some shortness of breath. We have a small office but none of the rest of us caught anything despite being well within coughing distance the whole time. Neither did his 70-something mother who just moved into his house.

I don't necessarily think it was CV but if it somehow is found out that it was, I'm gonna be real pissed about this whole thing?

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cuckslasher 4 points ago

i had that in november

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Trumplovinmama 2 points ago

Same here. Missed a week of work! It was horrible. Took forever to feel back to normal.

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Gmoney 2 points ago

my daughter had some nasty infection and a fever too. Just gave her meds and eventually she was fine. then i got it. my throat was so fucking swollen i was gagging on my fucking uvula. went to urgent care and they gave me prednison and antibiotics and i was better in about a week. luckily i was out of work that month from being hurt so im thinking i didnt spread it to anyone.

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deplorable-d00d 3 points ago

my throat was so fucking swollen

antibiotics

Then it was bacterial, like a strep infection, not viral. Don't spread incorrect information.

... continue reading thread?
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deplorablewhitey77 14 points ago

I know 3 kids in different families that ran fevers with bad headaches. The rest of us had respiratory symptoms and headaches. Those tested for flu was negative. We were told a virus and to treat with over the counter medications.

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Dialectic 12 points ago

I won't say what we had WAs for sure the China virus, but my kids had a serious flu in January and my wife and I had a cough/fever. Im not sure. Maybe it was the chinese virus but maybe it was just normal Ohio flu

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commies0ride0free 9 points ago

Feb 1st my husband had respiratory symptoms, fever, only wanted to sleep. Feb 14th I had the same thing plus an INSANE headache. Kids have had colds in and off all winter, ya know, kids.

If it was in CHYna in November is was DEFINITELY all over the US before now.

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MW23232 2 points ago

Yep, my fam had something weird, a horrible cough mainly, in January, and I know quite a few people from other states who also all told me they had had some weird cold thing in Dec., Jan. & my sister also in Feb. But HOW do we really know the alleged facts and figures we are getting thrown at us NOW are not all made up for . . . reasons? They were screeching no tests available just a short time ago, now everyone knows where to get them, and can, except me and all the people I know? And think about who we are getting these current facts & numbers from. This one web page handily sprung up & has the monopoly. I have too many questions to just accept it all as fact. Especially with the myriad stuff that as been told to us that we know was 100% not true in the recent past. Especially since POTUS entered election.

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ricky_spanish 9 points ago

My family also went through this, including two people in their mid 80's. Everybody survived, just took weeks to get fully over it.

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Bombshellacking 2 points ago

For 2 weeks I had swollen lymph nodes the size of grapefruits, very painful and scary. Doctor said I probably picked up a virus from my kids kindergarten. This was 3 weeks ago. I have no doubt now that I had the china flu.

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h3xAd3c1m4L 2 points ago

My wife believes she had it in December. It was the shortness of breath that made us think that could have been a possibility.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago

Not 100 sire but I got the crud in January and it could have been.

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Nostradumas 8 points ago

Never let a crisis go to waste

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MW23232 4 points ago

I hear you. I am not in Ohio, I know a lot who are in Ohio tho, weirdly enough. A bunch of us, out of a few hundred people all over the US talking abt it, got sick in Dec., Jan., Feb. Recovered. Are not sick now. A lot remembered having a weird cough from whatever it was a few months ago.

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Stonewallsam 3 points ago

You can't get tested in Ohio unless you are seriously ill so they have no idea how many people actually have it. I know people who have tested positive and some that have symptoms but can't get tested because they don't need hospitalized. It's crazy.

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deplorablewhitey77 4 points ago

I find it odd, when they were testing people who were experiencing symptoms, the negative results where surpassing the positive. Akton first claimed over 100, 000 ohioans could be infected, then had to come out next day and say she was questimating. Monday they stopped sending the number of tested to cdc, ( it looked like ohio had lowest in nation) Tuesday they started shutting everything down including primary, even overruled the judge who said voting would go on Tuesday.

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WeAreTheMillers 3 points ago

Yes. My wife and I and our 1 year old all got influenza b I think but they weren’t clear on it being that they said just a strain. We were felling crappy for a whole week. My babies birthday was Jan 20th and that’s when we traveled back to Bay Area. We got it from my niece who got from her little Italian friend who had just returned to states. Now we all had a cough. I noticed it was extra deep. We all recovered in about a week. So I’m not saying... BUT IM SAYIN

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NaCl_Miner 3 points ago

What’s the end-game?

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Pedeville 13 points ago

Politicians gonna use this as a reason to take away our liberty

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MACA 9 points ago

Already happening. Try to go to a bar or a basketball game right now.

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HockeyMom4Trump 3 points ago

or even an ice arena to practice hockey

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Pedeville 5 points ago

Norwegian government trying to pass laws to get more power under 'crisis' as we speak. Then they're gonna use those laws to send taxpayer money to their friends because of 'muh climate crisis'

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RapidAsparagus 3 points ago

Like income tax?

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 8 points ago

What I think is happening here:

The United States has a lot of financial obligations. We have a military to fund, we have Social Security obligations, Medicaid and Medicare, and interest on our debt.

The conventional way to fund our obligations is via taxes on United States citizens. In 2018, the IRS collected 3.5 trillion in taxes.

But there's another way to fund our obligations: Treasury Bills.

Now that they've crashed the economy, it's accomplished two VERY important things for the US economy:

  1. A year ago, the United States paid 3% per year to borrow money via 30 year Treasuries. Now it's less than one percent, a reduction of over 66% in borrowing costs.

  2. When stocks are cratered, investors buy bonds out of fear. When investors have no idea how low the stock market will go, bonds are the obvious place to invest.

As Rahm Emmanuel famously observed, "Never let a crisis go to waste."

And that is where we are at. We are at a turning point in the global economy, where countries all over the world have been spooked enough to liquidate their investment in stocks, and they will soon pour into bonds.

This is remarkable, because it not only provides trillions of dollars for the USA, it does so using dollars that are overseas. China, Japan, the UK... They will all be buying US Treasuries.

It's almost as if the Federal Reserve figured out a way to get the rest of the world to pay America's taxes.

Here are the top three holders of U.S. Treasuries:

  1. UK

  2. China

  3. Japan

At this point in the post, you're probably wondering why it was necessary to crash the economy. This is for a couple reasons. The first is that you need to instill fear in people, to get them out of the stock market. When people feel secure, they invest in stocks. The second is that the U.S. needs to get the interest rate down. IE, when treasuries are only yielding 1%, the maintenance cost is 3X cheaper than a year ago, when they were yielding 3%.

When all of this blows over (and it will), the United States will be in an incredible position, with trillions of dollars in cash exchanged for Treasuries yielding just one percent. This stockpile of cash will go a long way towards paying our present and future financial obligations, mostly at the expense of Japan and China.

TLDR:

This is a con, designed to make China, Japan and the UK fund the United States government.

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Sumarongi 3 points ago (edited)

Sort of. You are on the right track.

Because of the tariffs China was low on FX/dollar reserves(which they need for international trade), They’ve been selling treasuries all last year, but that caused a problem because it pushed up the USD, causing a flight of capital and making their international trade even more expensive. In sept the reached a crisis where the market was saturated with treasuries causing the repo market to seize up, which forced the FED to step in and start buying treasuries to keep liquidity in the system(this caused a huge run up in stock prices in the next months) But China was already in a deflationary spiral and had to destroy inventories to keep prices afloat (I.e.swine flu avian flu) and prevent unemployment and social unrest. This only worked for a month or two until they had to remove the liabilities from their balance sheet(retired savers , and political dissidents)

Herro Virus. Herro lockdown/quarantines.

It was, at the same time, used as a propagandistic weapon for the west crashing our markets and driving demand for their US treasuries holdings (which they have continued to unload into the repo market) shoring up their cash and allowing them to continue the Ponzi scheme a little longer.

All this will end when China becomes illiquid(run out of treasuries and fx/reserves) their system will crash and bring down all the BRI partners(Italy, Portugal and Spain) who has written loans in yuan last year to roll over their own sovereign debt,

This will rip BRI partners out if the EU and that will cause that structure to fully collapse, (at least the EURO as a common currency)

I don’t know when this will happen, but I suspect it will be ‘when the fever breaks’ Prepare for the fireworks

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 1 point ago

Great insight, I'm bookmarking this one. I think the Covid panic is bigger than just the pandemic, it's about finance too, as you've observed.

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TrumpsThrowaway 5 points ago

I say let them. The more hysteria they drum up, the better it makes Trump look when this whole thing inevitably blows over in the next few months.

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Scooby 3 points ago

They're going to say that the quarantine saved us all. Guaranteed.

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Stegosaurus_Soup 2 points ago

NEWS is just the cardinal directions in a different order, N,E,S,W, designed to direct your thoughts.

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spezisapedo 1 point ago

the infection rates arent good. I have no idea but im getting the idea this is serious

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CarlosDangerrr 12 points ago (edited)

This is accurate. The china virus attaches to ACE2 enzymes/receptors. Young people have lots and lots of them. Old people have few of them. So young people can actually more easily get infected.

BUT... If the the virus binds up ALL the ACE2 receptors in the body then the person is fucked bigly. Since young people have tons of ACE2 receptors, so some of the free/unattacked ACE2 enzymes are still able to regulate the critical body systems, and we get a little sick (or not sick at all) and our white blood cells fight the china virus off in a week like it does for every other common flu.

Interesting fact: Women have more ACE2 than men. So young females are more likely to get it but less likely to die from it. The issues is young people getting it and spreading it to old people. Young healthy people are basically not going to die from this unless they have some existing immune system suppressing condition. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16303146

Another fact: I learned all this while being stuck in my house.

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wethepepe 3 points ago

This is a dumb question but here goes.

Why can't we just get more ACE2 enzymes?

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CarlosDangerrr 1 point ago (edited)

Definitely not a dumb question. But as I research this topic, it is very clear that this is extremely complex. I am not a scientist and have very little background in the necessary fields and I would inevitably end up misleading you with whatever answer I wrote.

But I felt it important to point out that the fact that young people are more susceptible to getting the china virus and also less likely to die from it, are not conflicting statements, even though it sounds like it would make no sense.

If you want to try to learn more about try this video by a doctor that I'm watching now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vZDVbqRhyM

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HilarityComplex 6 points ago

They started pushing that nonsense right after the news showed young people going about their daily lives.

Quick! Scare them so they get in line!

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MW23232 3 points ago

You sure got that right!! Some say they arent going to let anything interfere with their partying, and plan to go on Spring Break, regardless. That did it, now this comes out about young people.

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HockeyMom4Trump 3 points ago

Yes, and the age range they list for young people is very broad. Like 20-49. There is a difference between 21 and 47.

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MythOfNeutrality 4 points ago

Hockey Mom - Fellow Hockey Parent here in MN..... I am MAGA all the way, and hate the MSM. But I just saw video from my good friends in Franklin, TN who have a family of 11 kids. Both parents and 3 of their 11 children have it thus far. Their oldest, 20 yrs old daughter, is on the floor trying to breathe and the hospital turned her away a few hours ago - hospital said don't come back unless she turns blue. She has no history of asthma or other respiratory issues. She in in excruciating pain. They are saying this is nothing like the flu. I am not trying to scare people, but I think the prudent ground here is to take precautions..... and at the same time, tell the MSM to get bent for their desire to see this thing damage our country for their political gain. We have to have a better way than just shutting down the whole of society though. The more draconian the local, st, and fed governments get with restricting movement combined with rapid job loss and people running out of resources, the more likely we are to have civil breakdown. I don't want the virus...... but I am more worried about the societal panic that seems to be induced.

We need this chlorquine+azithromycin distribution to commence as quickly as possible.

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EndTheFed2 2 points ago

I finally registered after lurking just to respond to this post... This looks like a shill post to me, from the disclaimer at the start to the poor grammar to the weird story and ESPECIALLY the push for big pharma at the end. Not buying it.

Sidenote: I finally stopped lurking at The_Donald reddit! Wow, that place became a commie ghost town... very glad this place is here, it's like a breath of fresh air getting my fresh batches of good news instead of the media-fear-induced-panic everywhere else like facebook, etc. I'm trying to red-pill constantly on facebook, but it's tough going.

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MythOfNeutrality 2 points ago

Friend - I oppose big pharma. I particularly dislike Pfizer and Bayer who have a pattern of bad and immoral historical behavior including involvement in distributing ru486 (abortion/murder drugs). I'm glad you are grammar policing me though! I hate that you doubt me. But that is your right.

I want potentially life-saving drugs to be distributed as cheaply as possible, free if possible right now as this is a national emergency. And I know that the President is working to make sure that happens. There is so much red tape with the CDC and FDA to deal with. This crisis is making case that these kind of departments should be state to state and NOT federal. But for what it's worth, this administration is thrashing the administrative barriers that were standing in the way of speeding up research and treatment.

I don't understand how relaying what I know to be true makes this a shill post. Trust me - I thank God HE is President and NOT HER! The calamity would be 10x worse with a permanent police state if Clinton was in charge.

I wish the media was not so cheer-leading the pandemic and using it as a political bludgeon. Looks like Cuomo and Newsom understand now is not the time for that. I wish Pelosi, Schumer, and CNN understood that.

The President literally has the weight of the country and quite honestly the world on his shoulders. The rest of the world may love getting their cheap goods from China, but they will be looking to the United States and the power of our private sector and our benevolence to combat this thing.

KAG!

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EndTheFed2 1 point ago

I honestly didn't believe the hospital would do that--I have some good friends who work at local hospitals here and didn't believe it... wow. Thanks for the followup. However, free drugs are NEVER free, it just means the government pays for them, pays Big Pharma, and then we get them for 'free', having already paid for them by our taxes or adding to the national debt. They most certainly are not free. Red tape and stuff is good if it prevents rushed vaccines, looking back there were a lot of problems with rushed swine flu vaccines btw. Things are weird right now, that's for sure, what with martial law threats... we need to preserve our freedom from all enemies.

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HowFreeIsIt 1 point ago

Check out the post where they replied on behalf of ConvertedDemocrat, maybe they got their accounts mixed up. Got to love those trying to steer the discussion....🙄

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EndTheFed2 1 point ago

Couldn't find it, but then again, I'm not very savvy on here yet. :-)

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HockeyMom4Trump 1 point ago

Hopefully we will get that distributed soon. I hope your good friends recover quickly. Sounds awful for their daughter right now. I would love an update on them in a few days-I will wonder how they are doing. Please let me know. In the meantime, I have been doing lots of praying these days for all those infected and a vaccine or treatment to show up soon.

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RahkeemTheMachine 0 points ago

Why are people downvoting this? Fucking idiots are in denial about how much this is wrecking young people

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ConvertedDemocrat 3 points ago

Have an upvote. Paramedic checking in. While I love this site and it’s content, I can see it turning into a circle jerk because people are scared. They come here for reassurance. There’s a CDC stat that shows 40% of those confirmed cases requiring hospitalization are adults 20-50~. Having seen some of these people we’re transporting, I believe it. While panicking is counter productive, taking this seriously and respecting what it can do to you should be practiced.

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HockeyMom4Trump 1 point ago

I wonder if, after this is over, anyone will ever feel safe in public again or will we all be terrified of germs?

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MythOfNeutrality 2 points ago

It's good to be prudent and prepared and informed. But we can't live our lives in utter fear all the time. God is in ultimate control. If I take precautions and end up getting sick and still dying of anything, than it is his will.

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HockeyMom4Trump 1 point ago

That's what my grandfather always said. When it's your time to go, the good Lord will take you.

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RahkeemTheMachine 1 point ago

Are you guys taking precautions to keep yourselves from being infected? I’d be scared as fuck to be honest. Be safe out there

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MythOfNeutrality 1 point ago

You are on the front lines ConvertedDemocrat. Thank you for your work. Praying for you and your peers. God bless.

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randomusename 2 points ago

Yup, only 12% of 4226 confirmed cases had to be hospitalized, and of those 508 cases, 20% were 20-44, so only 2.4% of corona cases were hospitalized AND 20-19. Which seems high also.

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GulagDweller 2 points ago

It is just hysteria, I'm sure perpetrated to hurt President Trumps chances from reelection. The timing of this can not be coincidental. There was no time for another failed coup attempt, so what better way to take down a president than a national event of pure hysteria and chaos? They keep underestimating President Trump though, he hits a home run no matter what Fake News/Fake Event they throw at him.

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TxAg 2 points ago

Young people weren't listening so now they need to make the afraid so they'll listen to their overlords. It's utter horse twaddle.

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SirPokeSmottington 2 points ago

This is article makes it seem like young people are getting more infected

Getting more symptoms in the U.S. due to lifestyle, ie, Vaping.

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Antiochus 1 point ago

If you're watching the press conferencing POTUS is having daily, I think the message is to try and scare the millennial crowd a bit so that they stop killing the older folks.

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MW23232 0 points ago (edited)

That is what someone told me yesterday, it is hitting young people supposedly? The only problem they have got with spreading that one (IMHO) is that young people in general do not read much. But I can see rumors being spread around by one young person telling another ... and the story (real or fabricated) story getting wilder and wilder every time it is repeated. Maybe that is the intent, rather than young people actually reading one set of alleged facts or opinion about it? I am in CA. No one wants to stay home! Really not happy about it or planning on it, at all. We barely have public transportation anyway! No one knows anyone who is sick, either.

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turdinthepunch 27 points ago

That's at minimum twice as deadly as the flu for that age group. France, Germany are reporting much higher rates of hospitalization in people under 50. This virus is not deadly because you explode if you get it. We can treat pneumonia just fine. It's deadly because we don't have enough ventilators, beds and doctors to treat everyone at the same time. People that would survive with care will die without it. Maybe where you are it won't be bad, I hope so. All I know is that I'm hearing from my friends and family throughout the healthcare industry here in the North East, its going to tear us a new asshole in the coming weeks.

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yukondave 23 points ago (edited)

We have 218 deaths as of now and 40 from a retirement center. We may be on track for the lowest number of people dead from a virus this year. If we turned cameras on and stayed home for flu season every year to watch 5 people a day die in the US of the flu the economy would be over.

I flew into SeaTac a few hours after patient zero on January 15th into Washington State. I got it 10 days later and UW is saying that random testing by them starting in February shows the virus has been active for some time.

Hospitals will be overrun because everyone with a sprint allergy or the regular flu is running into the hospital. Testing should reduce that. I understood a week ago to slow things down until we get testing but now that it is coming in it is clear this is just not that bad.

I just pulled the cdc numbers below with links. The flu and this virus covid-19seem to kill the same people. Covid-19 is less lethal than the flu.

World Wide Covid-19 2019-20

Tested Positive – 217,247 worldwide

Deaths – 8,784 worldwide

US Flu 2019-20

Tested since September 2019 = 1,1073,976

Tested Positive = 222,552

Deaths – 22,000

US Flu 2018-19

Tested since October 2018 to May 2019 = 1,145,555

Tested positive 177,039

Deaths – 36,400 or as high as 61,000

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6586370/

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

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Brucesky420 3 points ago

Hospitals will be overrun because everyone with a sprint allergy or the regular flu is running into the hospital

This is already happening, in large part because the media is scaring the fuck out of people. It's why places are running out of tests as well. God bless everyone out there in the medical industry working their ass off triple time because the media is stirring up so much fear.

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HockeyMom4Trump 2 points ago

Got to admit. The more I watch TV or read about it on the internet, the more I feel short of breath and worry if I have a fever. I do have a cough, so that just adds fuel to my panic. For now, I ate a bowl of soup and am planning to stay home and rest. Until maybe 2021 or so.

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RahkeemTheMachine 2 points ago

Testing is just gonna make everyone with a fever run to the doctors office. It’s going to make things worse not better when every primary care doctor is getting it

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BaldyGull -3 points ago

But it is spreading fast. This is just the very start.

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Centipe76 4 points ago

But, the start of nothing.

That's the hook.

It's like if a disease that was super transmittable had the affect of making your finger twitch once and that was all, but if you are over 70, and have 4+ other preexisting conditions, happen to catch it, and then still have a %50 percent chance to survive.

Would you be worried, no?

Then why are we worried about this one? This is all bullshit.

https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/

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BaldyGull 7 points ago

Severe and critical cases are almost 20%. That means that if half the population has it at once, 10% of Americans will all be in the hospital at once. That is like black friday but in hospitals.

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DocOne 2 points ago

Again, that's not 20% of all cases, it's 20 percent of confirmed cases which, right now, means only the sickest people (and celebs and basketball players I guess) that are being tested. Just like death rate, that number is artificially high due to most cases not being tested at all.

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BaldyGull 4 points ago

So cut in half, for argument sake. Still 5% of Americans in hospitals. Is that not cause for concern.

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Brucesky420 2 points ago

Which is why we're flattening the curve, but if we flatten it too much we're just gonna have a peak but later on in the curve. We need a steady flow of infected, and telling everyone to hide might hinder that. We'll have to see what happens in the next 2 weeks to get a good judgement on it, but eventually people are going to have to get back to work, and the virus is still going to be around and it will just have another breakout. There might have to be like a slow flow of industries being allowed to come back to work. I dunno how they'll go about it, but we can't just stay inside for 6 months

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HockeyMom4Trump 1 point ago

I am just hoping the warmer weather will kill off the virus and maybe we can find a cure or treatment before it hits again.

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BaldyGull 1 point ago

Agreed. The other thing this 2 weeks allows for is production of masks and ventilators.

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blurryface 7 points ago

America is nothing like Italy. Stop comparing us to them.

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MuadDon -5 points ago

LOL. Basic math is the same everywhere. X amounts of beds Y amount of victims. That's all this is.

... continue reading thread?
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HockeyMom4Trump 2 points ago

SO this. It isn't about the virus itself, but the massive amount of strain on the system to treat it if everyone gets it at one time.

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PleaseHonk 4 points ago

No. It’s not “spreading fast”

Just more testing is being forced by the media hysteria. Healthy, non hospitalized people are getting mass tested for it. This would never be happening if it wasn’t for media hysteria.

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain 13 points ago

Apparently, some of the people on vents are dying due to heart complications. So, even a vent won't save everyone.

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Centipe76 3 points ago

The people are people, mostly old people with multiple serious medical conditions already present. Same would happen with the flu.

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trumpaddict3 3 points ago

The virus is also attacking the heart. Heart disease is actually the biggest risk factor for dying of the virus. Patients can be on the vent supporting the lungs, then the heart fails.

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blurryface 1 point ago

Right, because most of these people had one foot in the grave already.

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HilarityComplex 3 points ago

The crisis is always conveniently two weeks away.

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Herecomedatpresident 3 points ago

I've noticed that.

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Thenorthelevator 2 points ago

Exactly. Nobody except Italy is Italy.

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MuadDon -1 points ago

I guess you don't consider savaging the global economy and virtually eliminating a handful of industries that employ millions of people a crisis.

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HilarityComplex 3 points ago

I do consider that a crisis.

I think you may have misinterpreted the sentiment of my statement.

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Sumarongi 14 points ago (edited)

Lol... they autopsied lifelong Wuhan residents who had been sucking in the worst air pollution in the world while smoking 2packs of cigarettes a day their whole lives.

Stop spreading CCP bullshit propaganda

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Centipe76 4 points ago

I think it was only 4 people too. Could be wrong on that but that's what I heard on the radio.

Edit: I mean the entire sample size was 4 people.

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AndrewLB 12 points ago

Not really. They're already starting to give patients that Malaria drug from the 40's (chloro...something) which apparently not only kills the virus, but its an anti-inflammatory and does wonders on preventing lung damage.

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MythOfNeutrality 1 point ago

I don't understand why people down voted Fauxgnaws comment. My wife is a nurrse practitioner and they know that permanent lung damage has been reported between 10-20% of everyone who gets this. I get not wanting to induce panic, but we should be real with the information and quit poo-pooing things we don't like to hear. You can me MAGA and believe that this virus poses a real danger to people. The rate of deaths from this supersedes the flu by many multitudes across all age groups older than 40 in Italy. It is a case study of what we are looking at, yet with a lower % of deaths because of Italy's aging population.

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain 13 points ago

I agree shit is getting overblown, but this is most definitely not the common cold.

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yukondave 6 points ago

But it kills the same target groups. People can only die from one cause generally. Right now we are tracking to have a lower total death from all viruses this year than last year with all of this attention.

It really is a case study of what if we shut down the economy and fought the Flu virus? We are saving lives of many with the flu right now and are at about 22,000 people dead. Last year was 36,000 flu deaths. If that number stays low until the end of the flu season which is May 1st this will say a lot.

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MythOfNeutrality 2 points ago

This is the CORRECT approach. Thank you MakeLiberalsCryAgain. It is far worse than a cold and has a far higher death rate in Italy, Spain, and China (albeit China cant be trusted) numbers that are being reported. Italy and Spain are cautionary tales that are more relative to us.

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MythOfNeutrality 1 point ago

I, again, give the caveat that Italy has one of the world's oldest populations. Still the rate of death from Cov19 is 10 times greater than the flu for Italians 50 and up. It higher for those above 70! Horrible.

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Brucesky420 3 points ago

They also have shit european medical care. We have WAY more capacity than Italy, and far better quality of care. Germany seems to be the only country doing a better job, and for all we know that's because they report the numbers like they report homicides by refugees

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yukondave 11 points ago

Anyone else notice that the total number of dead form the virus in the US has net been mentioned by anyone?

218 as of today FYI

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Number2withfries 8 points ago

Shhhh don't tell people that. It's not high enough. We can't keep up the hysterical bullshit unless we keep telling people there will be hundreds of thousands dead in body bags.

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HilarityComplex 4 points ago

In two weeks. Always in two weeks.

The fifteen day period starts over every day.

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HilarityComplex 7 points ago

Less than 4000 in Italy.

You would think that half their population has died so far.

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 10 points ago

A politician compared this to World War II. So I went back and watched "The War", a PBS documentary. It was interesting to me, that there was a single battle in Italy where 40,000 people died in ONE DAY.

Obviously, 4000 is a big number, but it ain't WW II.

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BaldyGull 5 points ago

But did that happen every day of the year? Apples and oranges. And as many have said, few are infected so far. >90% of people have yet to get it, and MANY will.

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 3 points ago

True. When India gets it, it will be ugly.

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Brucesky420 2 points ago

It's assumed India is already lying about their numbers. They most likely already have it. I can't tell you that for sure, but if you put everything together it just doesn't make sense how such a highly populated country where people are constantly packed together could not be spreading this rapidly. Most likely they're testing is well behind, and there's probably already thousands who have it

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KickingPugilist 5 points ago

Lombardy region in Italy stopped admitting and testing patients with symptoms and many are dying at home

https://www.ilpost.it/2020/03/19/coronavirus-bucci-numero-contagi/

118 out of 600 family doctors infected

https://rep.repubblica.it/pwa/generale/2020/03/17/news/coronavirus_bergamo-251569887/

200 critical condition patients admitted per day in lombardy

https://twitter.com/dellannaluca/status/1235864997890154496?s=21

Mayor in lombardy claims ICU admissions slowing down because there's no place for them and they are left to die

https://twitter.com/giorgio_gori/status/1237466571590828033?s=21

This is not an ICU, this is an emergency room because the ICU is full

https://youtu.be/_J60fQr0GWo

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BaldyGull 4 points ago

Agreed. Hospitalization rate is an important factor. Once the hospital beds are full, fatality rate will climb. This could get bad, and these precautions are well justified.

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cuckslasher 1 point ago

italy is a shithole and old people die

more news at 8

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Centipe76 0 points ago

https://www.citypopulation.de/en/italy/admin/03__lombardia/

Over half of the population of Lombardy is 65+. Always have to put things into perspective.

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jdtiger 3 points ago

your link says 22.6%. That's certainly an older than average population (Florida is highest state in US of 65+ at 17.3%) but nowhere close to "over half"

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DisgustedByMisleadia 3 points ago

The problem isn't the number. It's the trend.

The number of deaths in the US have been doubling every two days since about 3/14. Whether that is a trend or just a trailing edge consequence of the infection rate remains to be seen.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

On that same page, you can find a plot of the daily new cases. It's been doubling about ever 3 days since 3/5. You can probably expect an even higher rate of increase over the next week or so due to expanded testing.

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Dialectic 3 points ago

Viruses always trend up quickly then plateau. If we watched a norovirus outbreak or really any flu outbreak this obsessively we'd get the same feeling of panic.

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BaldyGull 2 points ago

Do you have plots or data to back that up?

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Dialectic 1 point ago

Honestly, no. But if the annual deaths for norovirus are 200,000, I'm pretty sure we'd all but shitting bricks if we watched that unfold day by day and had assholes on here saying "ITS EXPONENTIAL REEE"

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SirPokeSmottington 1 point ago

"ITS EXPONENTIAL REEE"

Bad comparison.

Method of transmission for pretty much every other virus is much different than SARS-CoV-2.

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trumpaddict3 0 points ago

No, because death rate from this virus is 10x that of flu.

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Dialectic 0 points ago

No it isn't. Flu cases are based on estimated cases. The death rate for China Virus has so far been based on confirmed cases. You can't compare one virus to another, say it's worse, and use different data.

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BadManOrange 2 points ago

The increases in New York far outweigh any other state. New York is adding 1000+ each day it seems whereas other states are adding <100 if not even single digits or none.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 1 point ago

Yes, there are definitely hotspots in the US. The URL I cited above breaks it down by state. NY is the definite outlier, and I suspect that's concentrated in the NYC area (or commuters to NYC) where they are packed like sardines.

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SirPokeSmottington 1 point ago

New York is adding 1000+ each day it seems whereas other states are adding <100 if not even single digits or none.

Isn't literally stacking people on top of people a great thing!

/s

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Red_Ensign 7 points ago

Your infection rate statisistics are true which is why this is a very big problem.

When we have to isolate those over 65 to the extreme and when exposure to this highly infectious disease is akin to them playing Russian Roulette.

That's a recipe for a demographic die off. What do you suppose the sociatal ramifications would be for a society that has a good chunk of its elderly die from disease all rather suddenly?

These are the wisest among us. The elderly are also very dutiful and commited to casting ballots.

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ippwndu -1 points ago

Social security doesn't go bankrupt.

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BaldyGull 5 points ago

But how many require hospitlization? Just because you live with proper care, doesn't make it harmless. When the hospitals fill up, more will die. Look at Italy.

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Former_RM2 -1 points ago

Don't be so scared of death. Panic gives those who wish for more power an excuse to grab more power. That's how the "Patriot" Act got passed.

A human life is not priceless and sacrificing our freedoms in the name of safety is far too expensive to justify saving the lives of even 100,000 Americans.

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BaldyGull 2 points ago

When did I say I was panicking. I am chilling on my front porch watching the birds. Concerned perhaps. Panic is for the unprepared.

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KickingPugilist 5 points ago

Many young people still have to go to ICU to get through it, your casual attitude is dangerous.

This isn't even an ICU which is full, this is an emergency room in Italy, listen to the doc

https://youtu.be/_J60fQr0GWo

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Herecomedatpresident 0 points ago

Please, though, with the comparisons to Italy.

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DrCowboyPresident 2 points ago

We are both countries composed of human beings. The virus doesn't give a fuck how great we think we are, if we let it geometrically spread, no health care system can withstand it.

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Scroon 5 points ago

Not a cold. I most probably had it early on right before the panic.

It's not something to be scared of if you're otherwise healthy, but it's an extremely weird disease. And it does produce some scary symptoms if you don't know what to expect.

Let me put it this way. If you can run up a flight of steps without having a heart attack, then you'll be fine.

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Snooptwo 5 points ago

I’m pretty convinced it isn’t. My sister is a nurse, my mom is a nurse, I’m in nursing school, they’re running out of ventilators and PPE. Do you think Ford would stop making cars all tougher and start making ventilators, Trump would send navy hospital ships up the coast, and tank his own economy, because of really good Chinese propaganda? I don’t see that being the case here.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 1 point ago

The UK is retooling manufacturing lines for medical supplies, including ventilators.

Trump said today he has been talking to manufacturers about re-purposing their capacity. But, I don't think he has done so, yet.

Car manufacturers aren't really set up to make items like ventilators. But, their suppliers are in a position to do so, or at least make parts for assembly by someone that has the knowledge/experience.

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Greg-2012 4 points ago

Chance of dying within 20 to 50 is less than .2

So as long as you're under 50 don't worry, fuck everybody over 50?

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Herecomedatpresident 0 points ago

No but why cant people over 50 or better yet over 65, or people who live with them or regularly come in contact with them quarantine.

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Greg-2012 2 points ago

I think most are, my grandmother is in a nursing home and they are on strict lockdown (no guests). Seniors still need to go out to purchase food and medicine and to pay bills, many aren't able to order online or pay bills online. I work in a community with a lot of seniors, all events have been canceled.

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RahkeemTheMachine 0 points ago

40% of the US hospital admissions from this are under 50. This can ruin your lungs and your organs even if you’re young and healthy

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Greg-2012 0 points ago (edited)

Good point. If you are under 50 and have pre-existing conditions (known and unknown), it can kill you.

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KekistanPM 3 points ago

"How absolutely DARE you compare Coronavirus with the common cold!!!"

Not me saying that, just a lot of "intellectuals" and panic-stricken people saying that.

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fakeaccount -1 points ago

I know right. All these "doctors", "scientists", and epidemiologists pretending like they know more than us about health issues. They need to shut their d*** mouths!

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ChicagoforTrump 3 points ago

The problem is that if we just go about our daily business and let the old people die then the hospitals get over crowded and even the treatable people start dying without access to medical treatment. There isn't enough medical staff to treat the people. Medical staff starts getting infected and it spirals out of control. That is what is happening in Italy right now.

I support Trump. I love America and I want the globalist to be defeated. I have a good notion that the globalist released this virus to try and stop the nationalist from destroying their world order, but Trump is handling this the best he can. He tried to down play it in the early stages and now there is nothing else he can do.

We do need to try and contain this thing. The media is trying to turn this into an epic failure for Trump but that doesn't mean this virus is nothing more than the common cold.

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cuckslasher 2 points ago

since 85% dont even have symptoms the detahrate is more like 0.03%

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SirPokeSmottington 2 points ago

Over 80 percent of all deaths in us from virus are those over 65any from a nursing home.

Incorrect. 205 deaths in U.S. 74 in Washington.

Maybe you meant 80% of the deaths in Washington were in a nursing home?

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leftists_are_trash 2 points ago

I'm convinced it's real, but jesus fuck, that article shoots itself in the foot. "Millennials not invincible" - technically correct, but they die at a statistically insignificant rate and nobody under 29 in the USA.

Let's turn the economy back on and sequester the old folks. Jesus titty-fucking christ folks, this isn't worth trillions of deficient spending.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 4 points ago (edited)

To be honest, the whole purpose of "Millennials not invincible" is to get them to fucking pay attention, because they are spreading it around to the vulnerable because they think they are exempt.

And no, it's not just the "old folks". Millions of people of all ages have compromised immune systems for a variety of reasons, and it's likely you know several. They can't be completely sequestered without sequestering their entire family (spouse, children, parents, siblings) or moving out of their own house.

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Freedomnc1776 1 point ago

40% of hospitalizations are under 50 though. .2 percent is still 20x the rate for flu in that age at .01%

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Meegs294 1 point ago

Eh, I'm sure it's media blowing things up for clicks. It's definitely not a common cold though. My brother in law is basically drowning in his own lungs right now. The hospital staff have to physically restrain him, pump weird purple bile out of his lungs, and then force him to breathe.

He's pretty young, no preexisting conditions

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Thenorthelevator 1 point ago

The people who are outraged about the "just a flu bro" crowd are underestimating influenza. It does kill younger populations (of course older are much more at risk) due to causing a secondary Staphylococcal pneumonia. Italy has had historically bad flu seasons compared to Europe (can link if needed).

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ConvertedDemocrat 1 point ago

It’s definitely not a common cold. It has a lot in common in with the original SARS virus and is often referred to as SARS II. While I do believe it’s mainstream hysteria being pushed on us, do take this virus seriously. It is much more contagious than influenza and while it may not kill a younger adult, if it manages to get into your lungs and cause and infection, you could be looking at lifelong health affects such as fibrosis of the lungs and decreased respiratory volume. Again, these are in the worst 6% of cases but you don’t want to be in that 6% if you have the ability to prevent it.

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PartTimeHick 1 point ago

68 million old people in the nation, 1 million hospital beds.

Hope you don't break your arm in the next couple of months.... Which is the reason for panic. Hospitals can't take care of an infinite number of people, they're businesses with limited resources like anywhere else. Do your part and slow the spread, don't be a bitch. People in Italy are being sent home to die as there's no more room for sick people.

Or let America burn, like China wants.

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blurryface 1 point ago

TAIWAN IS AN INDEPENDENT NATION.

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RahkeemTheMachine -2 points ago

A 34 year old just died from it. 20% of cases from 20-40 year olds require hospitalization. Many who “recover” have reduced lung function and organ damage. This isn’t a joke for “healthy” people. You can get seriously fucked up from it.

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Noselfrestraint 14 points ago

Link to the info or you hysteria didn't/won't happen. It's not that I won't believe you but BACK IT UP please.

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commies0ride0free 20 points ago

I searched “34 year old died of Coronavirus” (sorry when I copy and paste the link it comes up as a Google search?)

He was a testicular cancer survivor, had asthma, and as a child had chronic bronchitis.

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RahkeemTheMachine 0 points ago

Had CHILDHOOD asthma, like half the fucking country. And had a nut removed. If that’s the criteria for preexisting conditions, you can qualify anyone, even all the fatties out there.

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commies0ride0free 1 point ago

I was under the impression he had current asthma, from the articles about him

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blurryface 4 points ago

Except most people have a six sided die with no 1.

And some people have a 6 sided die with 3 1s.

And everyone knows what die they have.

And people with a shit die can not roll (stay home)

Fixed your analogy.

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RahkeemTheMachine 0 points ago

Are you saying everyone with high blood pressure or cancer knows they have it?

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blurryface 2 points ago

I'm saying people manipulating my words to create false dichotomies are of poor intellect.

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eddedandedamame 1 point ago

New data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows young adults ages 20 to 44 face a substantial risk of serious illness and hospitalization from the coronavirus.

29% of confirmed cases as of March 16th were between ages 20-44 years old.

"20% of those hospitalized were between the ages 20 and 44 — so younger adults accounted for a large portion of the hospitalizations. In fact, people in the 20 to 44 age range accounted for more hospitalizations than people 85 or over (9%), 55 to 64 years old (17%) and 45 to 54 years old (18%). The largest age group who were hospitalized were between 65 and 84 years old; they accounted for 26% of hospitalizations."

https://news.yahoo.com/many-coronavirus-hospitalizations-young-people-043359147.html

In France on Monday, it was reported over half of ICU beds for coronavirus patients were occupied by people under 60

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KekBotSupreme 5 points ago

Hold on though... pre-existing conditions, being previously immunocompromised, and having other illnesses, or having the major risk factors is why.

Per Bloomberg yesterday (don't trust them much, but this one seems legit), 99% of Italian deaths are a result of the patient having a previous illness and leaving them immunocompromised.

It's probably the same in France.

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Horkers4Trump 6 points ago

Not only that, but hospitals I'm countries with socialized health care are prioritizing younger healthier people over older people with chronic illness. The increase in hospitalization for younger people is because they'd rather save someone who still has a lifetime of paying taxes ahead of them than someone collecting a pension.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 4 points ago

I would be careful about assuming anything from the characteristics of the dead in Italy. Italy has run out of critical care capacity. They are triaging patients and assigning resources to those with the best chance to survive.

That means that people already in the worst shape are being left to die. It doesn't mean they couldn't be saved -- only that the hospital didn't have the resources to even try.

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Noselfrestraint -1 points ago

Link?

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DisgustedByMisleadia 2 points ago

This is from 5 days ago:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/14/elderly-left-isolated-abandoned-italy-death-rate-soars/

It was here that an exasperated anesthesiologist revealed this week that the lack of available breathing machines and ICU beds were forcing doctors to make devastating decisions about who to save and who to let die, based on age and health conditions.

“We decide depending on their age and the condition of their health. That is not me saying that, but the medical procedure manuals,” Christian Salaroli, 48, told the newspaper Corriere della Sera.

“We take great care to evaluate patients who have serious cardio-respiratory pathologies and people with serious coronary problems, because they tolerate poorly acute hypoxia and have less likelihood of surviving the critical phase.

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Noselfrestraint 1 point ago (edited)

OK. That's what I'm looking for. Now. I did some math of the raw data linked in the article.

I would like to know if I'm wrong.

If you want all the columns I'll be happy to provide but here's the jist. I also didn't like that they lumped 3 age ranges. I would be willing to bet that that 3 age ranges that show 6.7% death range skews higher with age.

Again, in my view this shows that it is deadlier the older you get.

Age Death %Total Death Death/Cases %

85+ 34.00% 41.14 28.00%

Age Death %Total Death Death/Cases %

65-84 46.00% 55.66 9.09%

Age Death %Total Death Death/Cases %

55-64 6.70% 8.107 1.84%

Age Death %Total Death Death/Cases %

45-54 6.70% 8.107 1.84%

Age Death %Total Death Death/Cases %

20-44 6.70% 8.107 1.14%

Age Death %Total Death Death/Cases %

<19 0.00% 0 0.00%

spez: edited formatting.

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yukondave 10 points ago (edited)

Looking at Americans that statement is not true. We have 218 dead as of right now in the US. 40 of those dead were from a Washington State nursing home. This is way overblown and that should scare you more. So 130 people die from a virus and we shut down billions of dollars in our economy?

Did you know we have over 36,000 people die from the flu last year and yes people that recover have long term issues sometime. This is normal and acceptable.

The number for children under 13 globally have a problem with the Wuhan China Virus is zero for pre-existing conditions. Instead we send kids home so they can hang out with grandparents????

At what point do we so no more destroying to economy? University of Washington has been testing since February and stated this thing is already lose in the wild and spreading very fast but Washington State is not

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6586370/

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

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MuadDon 0 points ago

Just wait until hospital beds aren't available. That's why Italy deaths are skyrocketing. It's ignorant as fuck to sweep that under the rug. The only reason not to panic is bc POTUS acted when many others didn't. Italian govt didn't have a handle on this and their people are and will continue to suffer because of those mistakes. The media is overhyping but this is serious shit.

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albino 1 point ago

You say it's serious but yet you ignore the actual numbers. It's about on par with the flu virus. We're having a bad flu season. People keep saying just wait. You know South Korea has the second highest confirmed cases of COVID? And guess what no one is panicking there.

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RahkeemTheMachine 0 points ago

You know full well this is step one of a marathon. Stop. This isn’t even gonna peak for 2 months.

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unicornpoop 8 points ago

Who cares what the age is if they have pre-existing conditions? The media loves to leave all the details out.

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KekBotSupreme 3 points ago

Yup...

Pre-existing conditions, being previously immunocompromised, and having other illnesses, or having the major risk factors is why.

Per Bloomberg yesterday (don't trust them much, but this one seems legit), 99% of Italian deaths are a result of the patient having a previous illness and leaving them immunocompromised.

It's probably the same in France.

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commies0ride0free 4 points ago

He had beat testicular cancer, maybe even more importantly he had asthma and, as a child, chronic bronchitis

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Number2withfries 5 points ago

Fuck off with your hysterical bullshit. Smooth brains like you are the reason GDP will be - 20% in the second quarter. I'm genuinely curious. Don't all of the breathless "experts" and "professionals" spouting this drivel ad infinitum on CNN remind you a teeny tiny bit of the global warming folks? This is obviously the media trying to tank the economy. We will wake up in a month with a tanked economy and nothing to show for it.

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Horkers4Trump 1 point ago

You know what all this is starting to remind me of?

"Saddam has been stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. We must take drastic measures to ensure our safety."

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Number2withfries 1 point ago

Reminds me more of the global warming hysteria but the Saddam comparison is a good one too.

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CarlosDangerrr 5 points ago

I'm skeptical that the 34 year old did not have a preexisting immune suppressing condition. The china virus attaches to ACE2 enzymes/receptors. Young people have lots and lots of them. Old people have few of them. So young people can actually more easily get infected.

BUT... If the the virus binds up ALL the ACE2 receptors in the body then the person is fucked bigly. Since young people have tons of ACE2 receptors, so some of the free/unattacked ACE2 enzymes are still able to regulate the critical body systems, and we get a little sick (or not sick at all) and our white blood cells fight the china virus off in a week like it does for every other common flu.

The whole quarantine is to keep young people who have it from spreading it to old people. The youth of the world are suspending their lives to save the old and immune compromised of the world.

Interesting fact: Women have a little more ACE2 than men. So young females are more likely to get it but less likely to die from it. The concern is young people getting it and spreading it to old people. Young healthy people are basically not going to die from this unless they have some existing immune system suppressing condition. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16303146

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

You need to talk to my wife. She tried explaining this to me. She is super techn8cal on this and has been a medical scientist lt for 35 years. She understands what u are saying and told me to th7mbs up u.

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VetforTrump -2 points ago

Covid 19 reportedly patented by bil gates. Africa philanthropist wher 8 of 10 of the last viruses over 20 years we supposedly originated. Dr. McGregor (sp) claims it was developed in North Carolina At Research lab. X22 report tube this explained. anyone else hear this?

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kesquare2 3 points ago

Yea right.

What research lab in NC?

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TheDespotofCartoons 2 points ago

You know, that one in Wuhan, North Carolina? I hear they have excellent Chinese food there, and a bat soup that will rock your world.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago

University of NC it said. The Wuhan lab could not have invented it. An Article was written in 2007 about the this. I just saw that the wuhan reseEch lab opened in 2015. I'm trying g to confirm this stuff and if anyonr has heard anything different that isn't coming from the ma8nstream media im Open to be educated

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kesquare2 1 point ago

Why couldn't the Wuhan lab have created it?

There are a number of articles indicating that very lab was doing research on coronavirus strains in bats back in 2017.

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 1 point ago

It's convoluted, but in a nutshell the basis of the virus was supposedly stolen from a Canadian lab then popped up in Wuhan a few months later.

Zero Hedge was banned from Twitter for reporting on this, and that was long before it hit the US.

So, someone was clearly salty about what ZH reported:

Here's the article : https://www.zerohedge.com/health/man-behind-global-coronavirus-pandemic

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kesquare2 2 points ago

Honestly that article has a lot of great details, but in order to come to the conclusion they are coming to you have to perform quite a few leaps and pretend your name is Gordon Amherst.

Like the Canadian part. A real stretch.

If we suspected foul play from every virology lab that experiments on animals, every virology lab would be suspect.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago

Ok read up on. That it Makes sense. There is still reporting that gates has a patent.

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bakerlevi 0 points ago

A person can CHOOSE to have bad diets with bigger risks than cv-19.

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UsurpTheNarrative 0 points ago

All of the world, massive clusters of networking and computing gear are closely monitoring all of us and our every move. What we are buying, who we are calling, emailing, texting and more. Its likely listening and grabbing information about what we are worrying about. Everything.

And this information in those hands. Not to mention all our interactions are now online for the next while.

Ya this is scary and I hope our leaders do the right thing and get shit back on course right fast before it all starts to unwind so much it cannot be wound back up.

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lalicat 74 points ago

I'm in Italy and I know a few people with the China Virus. It has all been very mild, but the cough is persistent for a very long time, but the other symptoms are very mild. However, up north four sisters have died at a partner hospital, they were all over 80 though.

To illustrate how retarded some of these policies are, I had someone who worked for me get swabbed for the China virus, he was immediately quarantined awaiting results because he had a fever of 102 and a cough, that came on quickly. They quarantined him for 4 days while we waited for the swab to come back, it came back negative for CV but positive for two strains of flu virus, they told him he could go back to work (even though he was still coughing) I said fuck that and re-quarantined his ass for another 14 days.

The flu is more deadly than this stupid CV but people are so wrapped up in CV hysteria that they are being short sighted and forgetting that.

Sad!

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RiverFenix 24 points ago

"They quarantined him for 4 days while we waited for the swab to come back, it came back negative for CV but positive for two strains of flu virus, they told him he could go back to work (even though he was still coughing) I said fuck that and re-quarantined his ass for another 14 days."

This has great meme potential. Maybe Airport security letting jihadis through carrying AK-47s but not showing CV symptoms..

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Choomguy 7 points ago

Calling it chinese virus is raycis! Its propr name is chink flu.

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yukondave 6 points ago

OMG I just heard someone say "the Preague"

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AndrewLB 2 points ago

It's the Wuhan Flying Rat Soup Flu.

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HotNismo 1 point ago

I prefer WHO-backed Wuhan Institute of Virolgy Flu

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AngelMark 6 points ago

Good luck in Italy!

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Beardedtrump 3 points ago

This is incredible. Anyway you can substantiate this claim. Because I've been arguing with with friends that the reaction to CV had been over blown and not a single fact or stat changes their mind. But maybe this will.

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SheepleMaster 3 points ago

I'm hoping that a positive from all this over reaction will cross over into "regular" flu and contagious disease because we should be isolating the sick anyways.

Thank you for your common sense in sending that worker home!

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RapidAsparagus 2 points ago

Maybe the socialists should be working for more paid sick leave instead of minimum wage.

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SATommy 43 points ago

Nobody I know, but like most people are saying, “everybody” seemed to have something’ in January. There were days when probably 30-40% of our staff was out sick, including myself

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IPredictARiot 18 points ago

I had that too. Nasty upper respiratory illness. Mine had no fever but I did have shortness of breath.

I'm thinking there are two strains of the same disease. One that's mild and one that's more deadly.

Of course thats just my unqualified theory.

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BlackHawkClown 15 points ago

Ran through our office too. Comments were being made like, “I’ve never seen this many people out of the office before.” Now? Nobody is sick

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AnHero 6 points ago

I had that thing in Jan too. Was the nastiest illness I ever had, chills, vomiting, ugh. Lost all my appetite. Went away quick though.

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VetforTrump 9 points ago

Vomiting not part of it from what I read that sounds like food issues.

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AlphaNathan 3 points ago

Uh.... yeah, same here......

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kesquare2 3 points ago

Trump secretly immunized America.

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Necrovoter 7 points ago

Supposedly there is an L strain and and S strain, one of which is more severe. I've no idea which is which or whether the testing they are doing can detect that. There are just too many unknowns about this virus for any definitive statements on it on way or the other.

If the medicines President Trump ordered approved are effective, we should know in 2 weeks.

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spanglevision 2 points ago

I'm an IT engineer so I know exactly ZERO about medicine. If one were infected with and defeated the weaker of the strains does that help ones abilities to also defeat the stronger of the strains?

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secretbern 6 points ago

There’s a (4chan conspiracy) theory going around about two strains. The first was a bio-weapon leak that was very lethal, the second was a “safer” version released to help build immunity to the first.

I don’t think that’s how science works, but you’re not the only one to notice this.

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spanglevision 2 points ago

Wouldn't that be something. Seems plausible that it could boost ones immune system. It would also mean that the good guys are getting good intelligence and are fast on their feet.

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Butthurt 1 point ago

I have it now. Started off just a sinus thing then my throat was killing me, now I’m tires as hell, no fever but hacking up chunky brown shit if I lay down too long, and my sinuses are just filled to the brim.

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vinnychase 2 points ago

sounds like bronchitis. China virus is a dry cough with no mucus / phlegm

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IPredictARiot 1 point ago

Probably not coronavirus

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undercovermaga 1 point ago

yeah that sounds terrible

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deplorable-d00d 2 points ago

That sound bacterial, like a cold / strep infection, not viral.

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Butthurt 1 point ago

Yeah man. And work for some reason is pissed that I’m not coming in so I’ll get a talking to which is nice

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Elanea32 8 points ago

My kids and their significant others went to Disney World and Universal the end of Jan. Within 2-3 days after getting home, three of the four came down with fever, cough, SOB, fatigue and were pretty sick. We’re all thinking likely the Wu Flu at this point.

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AngelMark 1 point ago

Disney is a pedofile CULT! Plus it's filthy there I heard!

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Based_Trumpster 9 points ago

It's not filthy, it's very clean. Pedo's maybe, but not filthy.

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kang989 2 points ago

Yeah not sure where the "filthy" rumor came from. Very clean place, actually.

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JohnBrownsBody 3 points ago

Yep. 3 day fever, 2 week cough. All before this madness supposedly "hit". Whole office was sick, though I know at least one was bacterial, not viral. The rest, makes one wonder.

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Watermelons 3 points ago

Yarr. Me too. I had something that hit me like a ton of bricks. Got better in 3 days. 8 of 31 people in my office were out at the same time. My boss tested positive for influenza A.

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myvoicecountsonce 3 points ago

For us it was December

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

That is when I waS sick. Thought and still do think it wS the real flu but had some of these symptoms.

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busybeagle 2 points ago

same

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JudicialDredd 2 points ago

Same here. On and off sore throat for weeks through January and February. Gunk in throat up until this month. Shortness of breath. Couple days here and there low energy. Other than that I'm pretty sure I kicked the China viruses ass.

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bigoof88 2 points ago

This was me, got destroyed by something back in middle Jan. had to take 3 days off work. Never done that b4

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BIG_TUNA 1 point ago

Same at my office and gym, multiple coworkers out with what they said was the worst flu they've ever had. I felt off for an entire month myself with a nasty lingering cough that wouldn't quit.

Could have been normal influenza, but it was still shocking to see a huge amount of people go down during roughly the exact same time frame.

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LastconservativeNY 1 point ago

It hit us in mid-February. 3 out of the 4 of us in one office had fever, cough and shortness of breath. I didn't get it.

My real question is: When we are going back to work? When is enough, enough? I know we have to take this seriously, but are we willing to completely tank the economy? Result to marshal law? The small businesses in my town can't hold on much more than another week. The young woman who cuts my hair said last week that she won't make rent if people continue to cancel (and now they're closed). I honestly don't understand the plan, and I haven't heard anyone address a proposed end date.

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kutastha1 1 point ago

Ours was in December (in Oregon). Thirteen out of 15 people were sick off and on and two otherwise healthy people got pneumonia. It was nasty.

I do know one of the recent Oregon people that tested positive - been sick for about a week and a half.

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Scuffers 36 points ago

None that I know off.

Having said that, 3/4 week of January I felt like crap, looking back, I had all the symptoms.

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NormaJeanRocks 32 points ago

I've felt like crap these past 3 weeks, always do when its 70 one day then 35 the next...where I'm at this time of year. No high fever though, and seeing this shit on the news 24/7 makes you feel sick too even if you're not.

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jive-ass-turkey 24 points ago

Not to mention allergy season just started.

I always get sick during the first pollen bloom and that just happened Tuesday.

Not there yet but not planning to lose my mind if I get a runny nose either.

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crusadetiem 5 points ago

I always go from Claritin to Claritin and Flonase for whatever the Flonase cycle is (six weeks? Six months?) This time of year.

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slrpnls 3 points ago

Same here. Before this all went down I was actually going to make an appointment with my doc as my ENT said I'm a candidate for allergy shots.

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The_Almighty_Kek 4 points ago

I stayed home from work yesterday because I had a sore throat, cough, and nasal congestion. I knew it was allergies, but I didn't want to deal with the bullshit from my boss and coworkers (oMg u HaVe CrOnYVirUsssS Go HoMe!!!!1)

Took some cetirizine and slept it off. Although, since I came back to work today, I've just been getting the same shit I stayed home yesterday to avoid. Someone wiped down my whole workstation with some weird-ass wipes, and everyone's staying away from me. (wait i guess that's not so bad lol)

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jive-ass-turkey 3 points ago

You poor bastard.

Hope you feel better. So many people are taking this as an excuse to coast.

You should just bring in yellow Police tape and tape off your desk/office.

Put a big skull and crossbones on your door with quarantined under it.

Now that I think about it, you might want to actually wear a mask to work. Might catch less shit if they think you are contained. Assuming you care of course.

Then again that conclusion is based on rational principles and these sound like irrational people.

Might actually get some work done. Your productivity will likely double solely due to the asshat avoidance factor. It's an important factor.

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Bax101 6 points ago

Load up on 4000 mg of vitamin C if you can find it for a week.

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NormaJeanRocks 4 points ago

Yep, I take it everyday...especially this time of year, along with other vitamins

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wethepepe 3 points ago

Try the super male vitality and coliotal silver

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Dialectic 5 points ago

This. This right here. Temps here always fluctuate constantly and now it's giving me the heebie jeebies lol

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Bigmouthblog 4 points ago

Did u have a respitory condition u could hardly breathe ?

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yukondave 3 points ago

NBA players had it and were operating at full competitive capacity. This is not instant dead.

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Dog_star_man 4 points ago

I had a cold for a month starting in December... also live near a very large Asian community (used to).

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Based_Trumpster 8 points ago

I was sick all of February. No fever but upper respiratory infection, dry cough, chest pain, lethargy, body aches. Never had a bug like that before. I was home from work for a week, then for the next 3 weeks it lingered. I'd feel better 2 days in a row, then sick again with same symptoms. After 4 weeks it was all gone.

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5minutes2midnight 1 point ago

Same here. It was bazaar🤔

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LiquidRitz 3 points ago

Lol. Same.

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XirWokeMasterCuck 1 point ago

In Feb I felt like shit coughing a ton. Woke up 2x in middle of night with short breath. Girlfriend did two a few days later. Not sure if had a fever. I feel like I know a few people who had something and it passed. Dr said it was allergies. Who knows.

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RuleoVicus 11 points ago

Does she really have it?

Or is she Tom Hanksing it?

People lie all the time...

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Reallytiredofthem 12 points ago

We've had bare minimum two people, that I've personally seen, come into the hospital and lie about having it. People are idiots.

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Mrsattorney 5 points ago

How many have come into the hospital and really had it?

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Woohan 8 points ago

We have had six cases at the hospital where I work. No staff infected after treating them.

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VetforTrump 5 points ago

My daughter works in rural Idaho at large hospital. 3 cases no test. NOTHER WARD HAS 11 patients with same symptoms all being diagnosed as the influenza. She believes the covid patients have the flu too and they are responding to same treatments. Why call it covid without a test.

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vinnychase 5 points ago

There are also a lot of false positives. People testing positive then negative for China virus. All seems fishy

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pastaroni 5 points ago

My good friend works at Alina hospital in Minneapolis. Apparently 17 people have it there, 1043 are awaiting tests or results. Spez: 584 were tested negative

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Mrsattorney 3 points ago

Thanks for the info.

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crusadetiem 2 points ago

Understand that everyone with any suspicious symptoms goes into isolation if they go to the hospital in that sort of shape.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

Seems it better safe than sorry but what else do you do without a test.

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undercovermaga 3 points ago

did Tom lie?

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AlphaNathan 1 point ago

Probably not, but maybe. He does lie for a living.

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AngelMark 4 points ago

They should always worry then. The flu and other illness can affect the kid as much as this new virus. I work w a kid w a low immune system n she gets sick every 2 weeks. First It was fluA then FluB then an upper respitory illness. Underlying health issues means to have to be careful every single day not just during this overblown Chinese flu!

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VetforTrump 4 points ago

We just lived through a virus that killed over 22k people. Not a peep.

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Dialectic 1 point ago

Crickets

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conservativefrank 2 points ago

PANNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCC!! Quick, let the government take away all your rights so they can protect you.

Because of the daughter with major health issues, did everyone practice social distancing re: the seasonal flu?

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conservativefrank 17 points ago

It's a flu. I understand some people are in poor health, older with bad immune systems. The same people are in danger from seasonal flu.

What do you want us to do, keep the nation shut down forever?

This flu will subside in the summer and return in the fall and winter. Will we / should we shut everything down again?

If they tell you people will be confined to homes except for approved travel and the government will provide everyone a stipend for approved expenses, will you accept that too. Get on ze train to ze camp!

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Greg-2012 5 points ago

It's a flu

So was the Spanish flu, it killed 50,000,000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

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conservativefrank -1 points ago

...at a time when there was nothing to fight viruses and little to fight the symptoms.

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Greg-2012 3 points ago

Yeah, we have vaccines today but we do not have a vaccine for COVID-19, yet.

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conservativefrank 1 point ago

We have treatments for symptoms that are far better, and we already have a vaccine being tested.

Throwing around the death toll numbers for Spanish Flu outbreak is ridiculous.

... continue reading thread?
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AlphaNathan -1 points ago

AHEM EXCUSE ME YOU MEAN THE PANDEMIC OF 1912

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Greg-2012 3 points ago

We don't know exactly when it started because the world was at war. Why does it matter what year it started?

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Bax101 -3 points ago

I like to believe it's the reset.

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VetforTrump 4 points ago

I believe it is being used against the deepstate to change things.

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conservativefrank 9 points ago

BTW, I didn't need doctors to tell me to wash my hands or not cough on people or not touch things in public where people may have coughed or sneezed on them. I've done those things my whole life.

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RuleoVicus 11 points ago

No shit, this whole event is giving the government great data on how far they can push the American public without reprisal... and these dipshit eat it all up.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

That is what bothers me. How quickly fear is induced and how quickly some just fall in line. On a positive note, many people tell me they have joyous expectation for the changes they think are com8ng. People are being nicer too... there is a huge spiritual shift i think in our country.

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RuleoVicus 0 points ago

How about you shut the fuck up and stop violating the Constitution over a fucking flu that barely does anything?

Go lick a toilet yourself you pansy fuck.

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HowFreeIsIt 6 points ago

So because he heard about someone having it, he’s personally violating the constitution? Pretty big leap there

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unicornpoop 2 points ago

Two types of people it seems. Problem creators and problem solvers. The problem solvers are getting really tired of this fake panic bullshit.

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HowFreeIsIt 2 points ago

There wasn’t any panic in that post though, just a statement of facts

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Chalwa222 25 points ago

This begging for upvote bullshit needs to stop. I come here for quality content, not some anecdotal facebook quality shitpost.

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bahhumbugger 20 points ago

My cousin has it. 38f, 105f - no doctor will see her. She’s taking antivirals or something and temp is stable now at like 101, she’ll be fine. But this is no joke.

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Cheesygorditacrunch 3 points ago

Did she get tested for it?

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bahhumbugger 10 points ago

Of course not, I said no doctor will see her.

She got it from a coworker who’s wife was confirmed to have it, but he kept coming to work like an asshole.

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Cheesygorditacrunch 3 points ago

So it’s just a hunch then? Regardless, hope they get well soon!

What’re the symptoms like, how is she feeling?

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EatDirtCommiePinko -4 points ago

bUt I dOn'T kNoW aNyOnE WiTh iT

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Althebartender 18 points ago

14,000 people infected, mostly from large cities. My family working in a hospital we've seen several people die already from it, and otherwise healthy 20-45 year olds struggling for every breath. It can be extremely serious for certain people.

I know we pedes want to pretend like nothing is serious and its business as usual, but it's not.

If Trump is concerned, why arent we?

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eddedandedamame 10 points ago

I honestly wonder if there was astro-turfing pushing this narrative it wasn't dangerous.

I've seen SO many leftists scream about how Trump Supporters took the hoax comment seriously (and of course they won't listen when you tell them what Trump actually said).

But think about it.

  1. Push fake narrative that Trump called the VIRUS a hoax.
  2. Flood places Trump supporters frequent with comments about how this is ridiculous and not real so real people pick up the sentiment as well.
  3. Real people expressing concern about it are called concern trolls.
  4. Solidify the narrative that Trump and his supporters are endangering others by not taking it seriously.

It's all wrong. He didn't call it a hoax, and there are plenty of supporters that took this seriously back in January already.

But I do think there was some shilling going on in here and it did eventually inspire a greater organic consensus that this isn't serious. It is.

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RuleoVicus 14 points ago

6 degrees of no Kevin Bacon.

Legit no one I know, knows anyone that's been sick.

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RiverFenix 9 points ago

If you know a Dem, you know someone ill..

Mentally Ill..

THESE PEOPLE ARE REALLY FUCKING SICK!

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VisualScience 2 points ago

That's only 2 degrees.

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Bramble 14 points ago

Can't upwall this one, next door neighbor is in the hospital with it right now. Ok a ventilator, but expected to make a full recovery.

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Althebartender 8 points ago

No one understands the seriousness of this disease isnt the disease itself but how quickly it can hospitalize. The bigger issue comes when we dont have anymore room in your hospitals for people like your neighbor :(

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DiscoStu 11 points ago

A good friend in London and his family all have it, but so far all are recovering.

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LadyWhoLovesTrump 9 points ago

I mean my husband and both my parents all had "the flu" in the months of January and February. They all had fever, dry cough that lasted 3 to 4 weeks. My mom developed pneumonia...but she has COPD. no one needed to be hospitalized. I never got sick. Was it China flu or influenza? Who knows. But thank God my elderly parents are ok.

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Dialectic 9 points ago

Lemme post some numbers I've been spamming to try and get people to listen:

Italy's first confirmed case was reported January 31. Italy's first death was Feb 22. Today is March 20 and according to Johns Hopkins data feed https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/85320e2ea5424dfaaa75ae62e5c06e61 Italy has 41000 cases and around 3400 deaths

That's 49 days to accrue 41000 cases, and 27 days to kill 3400 people. How is this exponential growth? Italy is supposed to be the worst case scenario?

The growth rate has dropped from 50% to 13% according to another pede here.

Now I'm sure the virus sucks. But the numbers don't show me a doomsday virus that requires us to shut down our economy in order to prep the hospitals. And I definitely see zero justification for anyone to say this will last until August.

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Kwixak 4 points ago

Because people are quarantined in their home, they can't leave their home yet it spreads, it kills. More than 15% of those who catch this disease, including young people, need to be in hospital and need a ventilator to breath otherwise they die. Even if they survive it means weeks, sometimes month to get better, because the virus also have a neurological impact and attack many other organs. It's not the fucking flu, it's SARS on Steroid

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Dialectic 1 point ago

41000 cases confirmed in Italy, so you're saying about 5000 - 7000 people need to be hospitalized, and that is why its a doomsday virus? Many have already recovered in Italy per Johns Hopkins. More are dying from flu right now in Italy than China virus....

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DrCowboyPresident 1 point ago

Dialectic, the rate in Italy is still increasing geometrically. There is only a tiny flattening of the logarithmic graph.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

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DisgustedByMisleadia 2 points ago (edited)

Exponential growth does not necessary occur on 24 hour intervals. It may occur on 48 or 72 hour intervals.

Here's the raw data from Italy:

https://github.com/pcm-dpc/COVID-19/blob/master/dati-andamento-nazionale/dpc-covid19-ita-andamento-nazionale.csv

Total deaths are "deceduti". Total cases are "totale_casi".

You can download and look at the data yourself, but you'll find that the number of cases were doubling every 3 days starting around 2/24, but slowed down to doubling every 4 days. It's now doubling about every 5 days.

Deaths were tripling about every 4 days, but are now only doubling about every 4 days.

I haven't done this with US data, as the upward trend is only about 7 days long. But, you can find the data here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Scroll down to the graphs. You'll have to transcribe the data yourself, by hovering over each data point.

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Dialectic 1 point ago

So it's plateauing then, yes?

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DisgustedByMisleadia 1 point ago

The time interval to double is lengthening. But, it's not a plateau.

In the same data, look for the column labeled "totale_attualmente_positivi", which translates to "total currently positive", a proxy for "active cases".

Or you can look at this graph that plots it:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Look for "Active Cases in Italy". All of the graphs on that page are generated from the data I cited above.

When the number of active cases stops climbing, then there's a plateau because the number of new infections equals the number of closed cases. But, they can't relax until that graph turns downward.

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ecotHEraPIST 1 point ago

The media hyped this shit so bad all over the world to the point where even if it's not really all that serious you can't really say it's not without a bad reaction from people.

Sometimes it's best to let it play out and die out and take advantage of a situation you otherwise can't control. (ex. China Virus labeling)

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AutumnCrystal7777777 9 points ago

No, but we closed the town down anyway. The only fuck I give is if it bitches up POTUS. My doctor is a truthful man, thinks it's the way. The antimalarials appearing to have sovereignty over the virus hopefully means a short siege. I keep busy. Best wishes to all.

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RiverFenix 2 points ago

You live in Antarctica?

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RiverFenix 1 point ago

Ah, i've been awake for like 10 minutes. lol

My mom drove from Florida up to Canada a couple days ago. She said PA was locked down a lot more than the carolinas or NY... even the border patrol guys were bored when she hit the border.

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Element23VM 8 points ago (edited)

While I haven't gotten COVID-19, I got a strand of coronavirus last year, so I don't have trouble believing it's spreading.

Coronavirus is 7-15% of all viruses. It mostly kills the elderly or people with pulmonary issues.

When I caught it in Dec 2018, I had a sore throat for three days and a fever with it, and then I got a really bad lung cold that lasted for three weeks and caused inflammation in my throat and laryngitis. Yet, I never had a runny nose. It was one of the strangest illnesses I ever had, and then this virus came out and I knew exactly what it was because they have the same symptoms.

The panic is overboard, but yes, people are getting sick, but it's just getting so much attention that people are acting like it's the apocalypse.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 3 points ago

No, influenza is a different virus than coronavirus. You can find articles on virology that explain the difference, but this is a high level explanation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_(molecular_biology)#RNA_sense_in_viruses

Around 15% of common colds are caused by coronaviruses (although I've read claims of up to 25%). Four different ones have mutated into a more or less benign form and become endemic in the human population.

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Element23VM 2 points ago

Yeah I just misspoke and corrected it. It's of all viruses, not of all flus.

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MAkaveli 1 point ago

you cant possibly be this stupid.

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Liberty_Prime 8 points ago

The virus is asymptomatic in many.

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conservativefrank 18 points ago

Therefore, we better keep the whole country shut down. A virus that the majority of people who contract it don't even know they have it has the entire nation shut down, areas locked down, government in complete control, and people accepting it.

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RuleoVicus 17 points ago

Omg common cold?!?!! Keep the country locked down! Someone may potentionally get sick!

This is their mindset. Fully brainwashed.

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onicosta 8 points ago

It's totally crazy. Chances are that you and I've had this and our bodies repelled it.

Now we are supposed to sit at home, scared? For how long?

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Bigmouthblog 6 points ago

I'm loving being at home

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AutumnCrystal7777777 4 points ago

Yeah, tyrannize me some more you naughty jackboot wearing doctors, I might learn guitar worth a shit yet.

When they make me work, though, it's on.

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deadindian 1 point ago

I am too but I hate not being able to get groceries because of all the retards who are panic buying.

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LastconservativeNY 1 point ago

Lots of us need to get back to work! We need a proposed end date and we're not getting one.

I've heard fear mongering press say "months". Most of us can't hold on that long (financially or mentally). I'm a Trumpian (happiest when working:)

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Greg-2012 3 points ago

government in complete control,

How is the government in complete control?

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maga_2020 7 points ago

Karma farming. Wish I could downvote.

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Trump4a3rdTerm 7 points ago

Chinese Virus

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CmonPeopleGetReal 4 points ago

it comes from CHI-NUH

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secretbern 6 points ago

I’m in NYC, I now indirectly know of about a half-dozen people who’ve tested positive. No one in my immediate circle, but connections like a teacher at a school, co-worker of a co-worker’s spouse, someone at a WeWork I was at once last year. Etc.

Now that testing is starting to happen, we’re going to see a lot more positives.

More importantly though, a lot more positive but not-dying cases.

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timmythetooth 6 points ago

According to Dr. Birx, 50 percent of the cases are in 10 districts in 3 states.

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VetforTrump 3 points ago

Which bstates

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kshoggi 3 points ago

CA, NY, WA

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Kharn 2 points ago

If I had to guess, New York, Washington, and California. NY and WA I know have ahd a big blowup, the Comfort went up there a few days ago. CA is just a guess because, you know.

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 2 points ago

San Diego is going to have a bad time. Some genius brought it back from Italy and then attended a music festival.

The festival had no running water.

Fun.

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the__rev 6 points ago

I just worry about the precedent being set by all this panic/hysteria.

If everything's back to normal in a few weeks, and only a few hundred people in the US have died from the China Flu, everyone will be saying "yay! The quarantines WORKED! We beat it! Thank goodness we shut the whole world down, it worked!"

Then next fall when the next strain of the flu appears (like every year), will everyone be chomping at the bit to shut the world down again? Where will it stop?

"Lisa, I wanna BUY your rock..."

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YouGotbbQd 5 points ago

Neighbor has it.

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kogar 5 points ago

Until 12 hours ago, I could have upvoted :(

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Winterds001 5 points ago

I'm in Boca Raton, FL and supposedly is spreading like crazy here. There was a middle school or kinder garden that had a little kid with it, no symptoms but he spread it to other kids.

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yukondave -2 points ago

Quick close the schools and send the kids home to the grandparents immediately

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Leakedgenderfluid 5 points ago

Shortly after upvoting this I found out I have a 93 year old family member in another state that has it. He’s been sick for a week and test results just came in that it’s the China flu. He’s actually getting better and at home, not in the hospital.

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duvalpede 5 points ago

My sister-in-law and her family is having to self-quarantine because her stepson's roommate has been sick for several days, got tested and it wasn't flu or strep.

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Bigmouthblog 4 points ago

I dont

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INK10 4 points ago

Don't know anyone personally that has the virus.

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ShiffsDeadHooker 4 points ago

I sure hope not to. Both my and my wife's parents are in their 80's.

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Red-in-Tooth 4 points ago

I know of no one in my family or work center or anyone in their family who has the Corona virus. My state isn't without infections either or anything or few of them.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

I work with 400 people. Some stayed home out of fear aBout 12 people. Zero have seen a doc.

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Averon 4 points ago

I know someone with cancer who needs blood transfusions and nobody is donating blood now so he May eventually not be able to get one. Will my friend die because of this hysteria? Will that be counted as a COVID-19 death if he just happened to have it but died of no blood?

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eddedandedamame 2 points ago

That's an interesting point, too. This is the type of thing that's killing people because two diseases are present at once, or occupying beds and resources that otherwise wouldn't be occupied. And then we aren't really testing. So what's the protocol for sourcing cause of death?

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Averon 1 point ago

I mean, right now just about any extra disease on top of his cancer could kill him.

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain 4 points ago

We have patients at our hospital with it, but I don't know any personally. Out of curiosity, does anyone know a source that tracked the daily number of H1N1 infections and deaths, or even the daily number of flu infections? It would be nice to compare these to the daily COVID infections. However, I'm guessing that kind of data was never published?

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Mother_of_gains 6 points ago

Lol. If you had that, everyone would go back to work.

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karene1622 4 points ago

Don't know a SINGLE person...hmmm

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maganify 4 points ago

Still not able to get tested in my state without exhibiting symptoms that only 15% with the virus will exhibit. I tried, there is no way for me to go anywhere and get tested yet. We are panicking without real numbers to give us an accurate reason to justify the panic.

When testing is scaled up where anyone can arbitrarily get tested the numbers will likely spike in a huge way and the media is likely poised with talking points in hand how bad and out of control this is and how it's Trump's fault somehow.

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RiverFenix 7 points ago

Why doesn't everyone who wants to get tested just say they were in Wuhan and have been licking subway rails and lamp posts in New York...

Also, the symptoms are DRY cough. If you have a runny nose, it's an indicator you're actually fine (and don't have CV)..

Remember to DRY cough if you want to get tested. And don't forget to shit on the floor.

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maganify 4 points ago

lol true

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AutumnCrystal7777777 3 points ago

Kek I don't want to get tested please.

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AndyCuomoIsAMobster 3 points ago

I think the virus was here much much earlier than anybody thinks. Around the beginning of January I went out of work with what my doctor said was "acute bronchitis". The precursor to my bad cough was a night at work where I got a sudden flash fever, body aches, and diarrhea, that all subsided after I went to bed early and slept in. Similarly, I know four other people who had weird random symptoms between January and February.

I think China knew about this virus leaking out of their shit country back in early November, and by then travel was still free flowing throughout the world. I Uber a ton and ran into a lot of sick people during these times. Not saying they all had the virus, as it is winter in Western NY here, but there may have been a good chance I came in contact with it unknowingly.

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Averon 1 point ago

I experienced something similar around that time too. I had fever for 2 days and I wasn't able to sleep at all, lots of coughing, didn't have a runny nose or sinus issues at all, so the coughing was coming from somewhere lower in the respiratory system. Coughing lasted about two weeks then I was better.

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AndyCuomoIsAMobster 1 point ago

I had a fever that lasted for about eight hours, and was gone when I woke up from a long sleep. Was left with a cough that started with bloody congestion and turned into a dry cough for two weeks. The cough started to go away and then came back slightly stronger towards the end of the week. Coworkers and friends had family experience the same symptoms.

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Artisane 3 points ago

I was in contact with a person tested yesterday. Its highly likely that they contracted it. I was around that person as recently as Monday before the organization instituded work from home. Last week I was showing her pictures of my kids, and yesterday she started showing symptoms.

Additionally, I know of three other individuals through friends that have tested positive.

I'm all for thedonald, but the thought that this is propaganda is way offbase.

The number of upvotes on posts like these will probably go down as people actually conract the virus and get tested.

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spaceport-terra 3 points ago

Just FYI.

This is called selection bias.

Us Trump supporters tend to live in more rural areas which will have lower rates due to lower population densities.

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BillClinton 3 points ago

I swear many of you who aren't taking this seriously gotta be from the south, where there's much less ethnic diversity. I feel like I'm reading arguments from leftists during Russiagate, kavanaugh hearings and so on.

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muhdik 3 points ago

That's what I keep telling people. I've always viewed the news that way. I know 0.

Fentanyl killed Tom Petty , Prince, and Mac Miller. Tom Hanks ain't dead, neither is Rudy Gobert. FOH destroying an economy.

How about number of friends who have been laid off? I have 2 already

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BIG_TUNA 3 points ago

I know one person who got it while in Italy a few weeks before the closed borders. Spent two weeks at home, mild fever with some body aches and small cough. That was it

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kicklucy 3 points ago

I’m in upstate NY and I’m fairly convinced I already had it at the end of February. Flu B went through our house at Christmas time and I had what I assumed was a very mild case at that time (low fever, fatigue).

End of February I had a migraine and my throat started feeling “itchy” with a dry cough. Next day slammed with a fever and worst body aches I’ve had (was counting down to next medicine dose). Didn’t bother to get tested for flu because I knew how to deal with it and figured the doctor’s office didn’t need my germs. Told people to stay away, and I stayed home from church and everywhere else as the right thing to do even with “just flu.” Worst symptoms over in a week, extreme exhaustion for another week, dry cough once in a while week 3. I’m 39 with hypothyroidism.

Coronavirus testing wasn’t a thing yet. Wish I could see if I have the antibodies out of curiosity though. Flu is still rampant where I am, so it could be that, but found the timing and severity of mine odd.

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anon1011101 3 points ago

Good question. I don't know anyone who's caught it, or even friends of friends. Where are all the dead bodies? Where are the hospitals stuffed to capacity with people dying from this superbug?
Nothing about this panic adds up

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VetforTrump 1 point ago

250 deaths reported today out of 14000 cases. I don't know anyone either

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Althebartender 0 points ago

It literally just started. We have a few weeks before that point and we are actively trying to avoid it.

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anon1011101 3 points ago

Literally just last weekend I took a round trip flight to California and experienced no issues. Now suddenly all the shit needs to be shut down? It's all political. Open your eyes.

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SirRichardMonky 1 point ago

viruses spread at an exponential rate obviously things have changed in a week. this mindset is mind numbingly stupid. i live outside nyc and know multiple people who have it or have come in contact, have you actually been to a hospital??? i've heard first hand accounts from nurses in the area about it actually being worse than reported because they can't test everybody therefore cannot properly report the cases, but you'd rather believe fucking internet strangers with clear bias because it fits better into your own beliefs. a lot of people here pull the same shit they accuse liberals of doing, the lack of self awareness is astonishing

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anon1011101 0 points ago

go fuck yourself concern troll faggot

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MAkaveli 1 point ago

Hes completely right you know, you blowing this off and being an asshole without having any knowledge on how viruses work, is worrying. It goes to show you how many people share your viewpoint without having any underlying knowledge. good luck to you.

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anon1011101 1 point ago

I have a PhD in chemistry and I have several patents and peer reviewed papers on therapeutic medicines for cancer and other diseases... shut up when talking to your superiors

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Althebartender 0 points ago

14,000 infected today compared to the 1k last weekend when you flew. Things have gotten worse, and these numbers are a week old due to how long the coronavirus test takes. Obviously things are going to change when the situation looks more grim.

Open YOUR eyes. If TRUMP of all people is warning about thos virus you think youd listen!!!

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anon1011101 0 points ago

Trump has to play along with the hysteria in order to co-opt the MSM and get things he wants done in the process (border closures, immigration halts, etc).
Again, the place I'm traveling to has 2 reported cases of Chinese virus as of TODAY. Like I give a flying fuck?

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Heyward 3 points ago

I actually know someone. He's young and otherwise healthy so it's not a big deal. I think before this is over a lot of people will get this virus, develop antibodies, and go on with their lives.

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banumerchantmarine 2 points ago

I have it, it's NBD. I'm middle aged and fit though. My kids brought it home, it ran the course through them before all the school closings (ROFL) and then my wife and I both got it. She had a very mild case, I had pneumonia last fall and it's a bit rougher here but it's no worse than any other flu.

I think it's ALL OVER THE PLACE right now, but most people don't even know it when they get it.

So much hysteria. I'm living on a military base right now and it's all pretty quiet and calm, lots of people have it, the hospital is monitoring some cases in some trainees because they can't go live in the communal dorms and be quarantined but JMO this is a gross overreaction.

Fuck China and fuck anyone who listens to them.

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KickingPugilist 2 points ago

It hit my town, and the town where I work, I even received a release by my employer confirming it.

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GulagDweller 2 points ago

I still know ZERO individuals who have had the China Virus. I work in a hospital and they are testing everyone who gets sick and all of them have come back to the regular flu or something else. We have seen our first few patients confirmed with it this past week. From what I hear, still less than a dozen confirmed cases throughout the entire 30 hospital system.

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Elanea32 2 points ago

Know 2 from my workplace who are related to each other and had traveled abroad. Big place so most areas still open.

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Trumpchoochoo 2 points ago

Florida here. I know one person that has it. It is a former co-workers daughter...who lives in Spain.

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LeapFrog 2 points ago

There are 3 reported cases in my county here in FL and 1 being in my city, but no one that I know.

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colddeadhands 2 points ago

I’ve been collecting a lot of information from lots of different sources, some of which are scientific studies, some of which may have sample sizes too small to draw proper conclusions from. I don’t have all of these sources at hand, atm. Any of it can be looked up, though.

Here is my best knowledge, atm:

  • quarantine probably won’t work, but might slow it down
  • 50% of us will get it
  • 50% who get it won’t know (no symptoms)
  • of those with symptoms, most are mild
  • overall, 0.2% of a population will die
  • worst-case estimates are 3M in the US will die, my estimate is 500k
  • 3M Americans die each year from old age and disease. Strong overlap with who will die from this
  • if treatments are effective, then death rates will be lower
  • if treatments can slow or halt spread, then death rates will be much lower

Also,

  • blood type A is high-risk, O is low-risk
  • zinc is good. It interrupts some of the RNA replication of sars-cov-2. Chloroquine helps get more zinc in the cells. Not sure if zinc supplements help, but can’t hurt.
  • ibuprofen is bad. Exacerbates symptoms. Not sure why.
  • Azithromycin helps in treatment because it prevents bacterial infection in those with pneumonia.
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kshoggi 2 points ago

This is good info, folks. And remember the point of social distancing is to slow it down so that we don't end up turning people away from the hospitals like Italy.

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eddedandedamame 2 points ago

Anti-inflammatories like Ibuprofen make it harder for oxygen to move through the body. It usually doesn't make a difference for healthy people, but with a severe respiratory infection or other underlying issues like asthma, you're already struggling to get oxygen where it needs to go.

This goes for all nSAIDs, not just ibuprofen! It's also worth noting that liquid medications like cough syrups can sometimes contain nsaids... Look for one that has acetametaphine instead.

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incogneato 2 points ago

Thought I heard that about blood type A just recently. I've never heard that about any other microbe. Is that further evidence that it's genetically engineered?

Wondering now which populations are largely type A and which are largely type O.

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bOObs 2 points ago

what’s the difference between the influenza/flu and covid-19?

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SauronWasFramed 1 point ago

Communicabilty. The wuhan virus seems to spread faster and easier than flu.

Death rate for elderly with other diseases seems higher than flu, but I haven’t researched this.

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Logan051361 2 points ago

dont know anyone with it

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I-am-Orlando 2 points ago

I don't know a single person.

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Pats5x 2 points ago

I work in a small office of 10, no one knows anyone w Chinese virus. No one in my family knows anyone w Chinese virus. No one at my wife's work (small group of contract sped providers) knows anyone w Chinese virus....are we being played?

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_Ice_Poseidon_ 2 points ago

I had coronavirus (italian here).

For me it was a light cold with complete loss of sense of smell.

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RockyMin 2 points ago

You know, who's to say that the MSM is not padding their numbers and reporting more deaths/cases than there actually are? The same way the Chinese were accused of reporting lower numbers than there actually are?

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eddedandedamame 2 points ago

Not sure but I've considered that in both ways (each country under reporting, each country over reporting, and each doing so maliciously or just out of benign ignorance)......But American media seems to have loved that story this week about how China went a day without a single new case. Why? I certainly don't think China really had no new infections.

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RockyMin 1 point ago

I think the MSM is over reporting a bit. They are trying to oust the president, and like Nancy said a few months ago "one way or the other, he won't be president after November".

The dems have had plans in place for a long time.

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LastconservativeNY 1 point ago

CDC says death toll 201 as of today at noon. News outlets report higher #s

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MAGA_Doge 2 points ago

It’s been 15 days since I travelled thru LAX and I haven’t experienced any symptoms. My only complaint is some slight sinus pain, but that’s typical when it’s rainy/dry/rainy/dry weather.

I did wear a mask and I sanitized my hands after touching everything. I’d say that 99% of people there did not wear a mask and looked healthy. No one caught my eye as if they appeared sick or unhealthy (coughing, sweating, sneezing, etc.).

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kshoggi 2 points ago

Four friends of a friend all tested positive after some spring break trip.

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Pedeville 2 points ago

I live in a small town with about 10k people and only two confirmed cases thus far. But we have a small city 20min away and another bigger city 40 mins away so people will bring it to us unfortunately

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RussianBot2 2 points ago

In my world it is only exist on TV.

But so are vampires, werewolf and white supremacists.

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freespeech4all 2 points ago

Nope.... apparently my county in florida is hardest hit though

Blah

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AloweiseEdelHuberIII 2 points ago

I love in Atlanta and no nobody with it

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GuerillaYourDreams 2 points ago

I don’t know anyone who has it but we are starting to see deaths here in North Florida.

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ramseyducati 2 points ago

Asked my uncle if he knew anyone who knew anyone who had it. He said my cousin had it which is funny cause my uncles a huge trump guy. Gave him the eyeball and he immediately said "he thinks he has it and is freaking out." Love everyone but my cousins gay, of fucking course the little germ freak is freaking out, he freaks out about everything.

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bulldog65 2 points ago

IF YOU DON'T KNOW SOMEONE, YOU WILL.

PLEASE, I AM BEGGING YOU TO STOP TRYING TO TURN EVERY ASPECT OF THIS EMERGENCY INTO A POLITICAL FOOTBALL TO BE FOUGHT OVER. THERE ARE REAL LIFE, LIFE AND DEATH ISSUES THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED DURING THIS EMERGENCY. IF YOU CANNOT STOP PLAYING POLITICS THEN YOU HAVE A MENTAL PROBLEM JUST AS BAD AS THE EXTREME LEFTIES.

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mikethemarine 1 point ago

I would agree with you but I'm analytical and so far in the world there has only been 12,000 deaths from this virus and already a quarter of the year is gone so there is 3/4 left so if we multiple 12,000 x 4=48,000 people would die and this is for the hole world, the U.S.A. losses between 25,000-112,000 a year to the flu alone so it makes me wonder where the panic is coming from???? Can you tell me !!!!!!!!!!!! Also note this has been going on since Nov. in China

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JamesBond007 2 points ago

Just south of San Antonio Texas and work around Corpus Christi and I know no one infected or quarantined and we are still working as if nothing is happening yet. Stores hit hard thou

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just2groovy 2 points ago

Heard from a gaming friend this morning. She lives in Germany and has contracted the Wuhan Flu. She is 47.

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KekBotSupreme 2 points ago

Me. I don't know anyone.

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Slick_Willys_Nutsack 2 points ago

There's 15K infected Americans right now and the media projects it like OMG so many be scared and panic mwahahahahahah.

Then you pull out a calculator and viola 15K out of 320 million is roughly 0.00004 percent of the population and how many people just have regular flu but they're counting it as Wu Flu.

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TheNotSoEvilEngineer 2 points ago

Wive's office had a gentleman die last Saturday from "flu-like symptoms" test results haven't come back yet, or they aren't telling us if it was covid-19. He had been in the office up until Thursday of that week. We are all working from home now, and it won't be a few more days before anyone shows symptoms if they were contaminated.

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TrumpTrain 2 points ago

I can’t upvote this. My sibling has a sister church in a neighboring town from their church. The pastor and wife bothe are confirmed to have it and are currently hospitalized. 24 others in the church have symptoms and are currently quarantined.
My other sibling works at a local hospital. While they are publicly reporting no one with the virus at the hospital, they indeed have 6 people with there with the virus.

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Finraelin 2 points ago

We'll find that the higher the rate of testing the lower the rate of death. Right now the most serious and obvious cases are tested, and they are also the most at risk.

Mild cases with low risk are likely getting missed and not tested.

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Pepehands 2 points ago

I know 3 people with it.

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Khryn 2 points ago

Don't know anyone. There's someone in my small town that has it, but don't know them.

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TheRoyalRob 2 points ago

I live in Daegu, South Korea and me, my family and friends, don't know anyone with it.

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FredBoulderdash 1 point ago

I know people who have family/friends back home who have the Kung-Pao-Sicken. Currently chilling in mu University dorm waiting for spring break to be over and do all my classes online now.

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bck- 1 point ago

I don’t know anyone but I really would not like to contract it. My father (who would fit right in here) has incurable stage 4 prostate cancer and actually and after about 8 months of treatment his PSA down to a normal level and the doctors have told him that his cancer no longer is affecting his body. Right about this time of the year last year he was diagnosed. He’s been such a fighter and I’m very proud of him. So with that, I’m just trying to stay as clean and as healthy as possible, allergy season has been a bitch.

My boss’ friend’s niece (I know how that sounds) works in a hospital around were I live and she said that the media is making this sound like a bigger issue than it is.

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magafren 1 point ago

I still have not talked to anyone who has it.

I've been asking everyone I speak to if they or anyone they know has it. And I work remotely with people all over the world so that's actually quite a big reach for me.

Still haven't heard of anyone saying they've tested positive.

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Former_RM2 1 point ago

Just watched one of the sailing vlogs I follow and they "think" they got it. They had flu like symptoms for a week and then it was all over. Their 3 month old baby never got anything. They didn't bother getting tested and are currently self quarantining on the boat for another week or so.

Those are the only people I "know" that (might) have had it.

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TheBestPatriots 1 point ago

My neighbor definitely has it

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ClownTamer 1 point ago

Don’t know a single person, and nobody I know knows a single person that’s had it. I know someone that had an international person in their dorm with a confirmed case, but nobody there but them had it in the time since.

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slaphappy2 1 point ago

My sister in law has a fever. She might have it. Public school teacher. New York mayor DiBlasio was very slow to close the schools.

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Centipedeboy 1 point ago

up until yesterday i didnt, now i do

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happyfeetmah 1 point ago

Where is Ruth?

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RahkeemTheMachine 1 point ago

I have a work buddy who’s cousin has it, she’s a nurse.

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dakin116 1 point ago

Wife had a bad cough and shortness of breath back in November for around 2 weeks. Dad had something back in early February with breathing. I also had some breath shortness in late Jan/Feb. We all feel better now, wife probably had the worst symptoms. No idea what we had, but I do think this has been here longer than the media is saying

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InfinityTrump 2 points ago

Because this site is full of propaganda spewing shills that will stand against popular opinion regardless of the facts. I’m really disappointed with this site. The_Donald was so much better than this cesspool.

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mikethemarine 1 point ago

This is a copy of what I gave someone else, stop fear mongering and look at the numbers.

I would agree with you but I'm analytical and so far in the world there has only been 12,000 deaths from this virus and already a quarter of the year is gone so there is 3/4 left so if we multiple 12,000 x 4=48,000 people would die and this is for the hole world, the U.S.A. losses between 25,000-112,000 a year to the flu alone so it makes me wonder where the panic is coming from???? Can you tell me !!!!!!!!!!!! Also note this has been going on since Nov. in China

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Dtaglione 1 point ago

Know no one, thankful and staying inside

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xBuckeyex 1 point ago

I actually know a guy in his early 50s with it. Was with him a week before he started having symptoms. Crazy shit.

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FeddyCaeks 1 point ago

I'm 90% sure a former coworker [who no longer works for us] had it. I work for a pool service, so we're all independent and in our own trucks so something spreading isn't likely. Nobody else has been sick, but when he went home early on a Monday and missed the rest of the week, according to my boss as I found out this week, he had all of the symptoms including shortness of breath. Thank god he stayed home the whole week. This was about a month ago or so, and nobody else at the company has exhibited the symptoms. I'm firmly in the belief that covid19 was here about the same time it started being seen in China last year. Perhaps said former coworker was one of those people that had 'the flu' that actually was covid19. If he gets tested his antibodies would tell the truth. Myself, I haven't been sick with any kind of flu or cold since I started work there in January 2015. As nice as it has been to have my only problems be allergies, I wonder if it negatively affects and weakens my immune system?

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Hillandbill 1 point ago

Kindof like how nobody clicks on Google or Facebook ads but 99% of their revenue is supposedly from ad clicks.

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Musman 1 point ago

I cant upvote anymore. Also am unable to sort the posts. Anyone else experiencing this?

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HeavenlyTrumpets 1 point ago

You wouldn't know.

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Vainslayer13 1 point ago

A cousin woke up coughing yesterday. He was feverish, had a sore throat and was "spitting up colors". He went to his doctor, got swabbed and tested. Doctor be like, "You've got the flu. Go on bedrest. What? No. You've got the normal-ass flu. Stay away from people."

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Musman 1 point ago

I cant upvote anymore. Also am unable to sort the posts. Anyone else experiencing this?

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MythArcana 1 point ago

Anyone find me a name of someone who has died from this virus without underlying conditions.

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turdinthepunch 4 points ago

Li Wenliang

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MythArcana 2 points ago

Is that the Chinese doctor that got infected who they let die? Yeah, I need some non-communist, real-world American examples.

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turdinthepunch 5 points ago

If they let him die by not giving him care, it is a perfect example of what is coming. Healthier people who would otherwise be treated easily won't start dying until we run out of beds and ventilators and/or healthcare workers stop working. That hasn't happened here yet. Depending where you are, in about 2 weeks you'll have plenty of names to choose from.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago

He was a healthy guy, His death may have been due to speaking up. after all they did arrest him for doing what NY u.s. doc would have done

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ProdigalPlaneswalker 1 point ago

it is a perfect example of what is coming

HIS NAME WAS CHARLIE GARD

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BathouseBarry 1 point ago

Says who

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ChicomUberAlles 0 points ago

no, who did not say that. WHO said it don't transmit human-to-human.

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sun_wolf 0 points ago

I am on the fence with all of this, but didn’t they say that two weeks ago? That there would be bodies in the streets of every country and no one would be able to deny it anymore? Is this like Climate Change where the doomsday deadline keeps getting pushed back? In two weeks from now, will it be another two weeks?

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Drewfury 1 point ago

Know several that caught the flu. Even one that was recently treated for TB. But I don't know anyone that even drinks corona beer much less have the virus

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Brostradamnus 1 point ago

I know a lady who worked for BioGen in late February. Took two weeks off from work but I don't know if she has been tested yet.

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Slick_Willys_Nutsack 1 point ago

I did see 2 kids coughing on each other in the street the other day. So I pull and say hey what are you doing.

Then they said 🎶everybody is Kung FLU fighting cough coughcoughcoughcoughcoughcoughcough*cough the MSM wants it to spread as fast as lightning🎶

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mikethemarine 1 point ago

not going to tell you were I am cause I live on an island and have only 1 case of corona left and no limes, and don't want to share.it, as for the virus it is none existent here.

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doodaddy 1 point ago

In Seattle. Don't know anyone with the Chinese Virus

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laneybelle 1 point ago

zero positive tests/cases reported in my local parish

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b00gies 1 point ago (edited)

Had to take my up-trump back since I may know of one. Mother in law is in the hospital as I type this. They tested for it, we will get results Tuesday. Send some good vibes pedes. Love to you all.

Spez: likely hood of MIL having it decreased, Dr. called thinks it might be something else, but only the test will confirm. However, still in hospital.

Double spez: MIL tested negative

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EmperorTrump2020 1 point ago

we don't know, YET. 80% of times most people will just go through like if they had really bad flu/cold. and if you're young, you're most likely not even really see much of the symptom and be done with it while spreading the virus.

for it to be easily visible in the avg joe's eyes, it's not going to be easy to "know anyone with corona virus"

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murnando 1 point ago

Boyfriend is a nurse on the COVID floor in the hospital where he works. Says it's not gruesome, but it isn't pretty. The PPE he's having to wear is nuts.

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Maga_with_theD 1 point ago

My son's friend's father's co-worker's daughter knew someone that has it.

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incogneato 1 point ago

and that's almost all of what I hear. I'd like to hear from someone who has actually been diagnosed with it, or personally knows someone who has actually been diagnosed - not just "I was really sick not long ago and I think that's probalby what it was"

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BonerDonor 1 point ago

We're so low on testing supplies that the local clinics here aren't even bothering to test people unless they're older or have other health problems where a diagnosis would change treatment.

For 99% of people, the treatment for the Chinese virus is the same as any other infection, stay home and get better.

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acebart3 1 point ago

I know of a friend of a friend who caught it. Does that count?

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Snooptwo 1 point ago

My cousin and his girlfriend got it. They got back from Europe, self quarantined, and then got sick and tested positive. Mild symptoms, they are already better, They are early 30s, but they are still stuck in quarantine until they can’t test free.

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Deaditewater 1 point ago

We'll see. There may be a few asymptomatic people at the office.

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myswedishfriend 1 point ago

Trick question!

You can't always tell if a person has it! Just like the gay virus.

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independentbystander 1 point ago

In my failing Flyover State small-town, the Leftists are shrieking their heads off (as usual) blaming Orange Man Bad for creating/worsening the Kung Flu Panic-demic. They are also inventing rumor-based cases locally, purely for Facebook attention/hysteria enhancement. When there were no cases in the state, they were claiming dozens. Now, they are claiming a local outbreak when there is no such thing.

The big problem with this: we don't have actors/celebrities here to pretend they have teh coof (Tom Hanks, et al.) Local Leftists are so conditioned to consuming/spreading Orange Man Bad narrative gossip with no verification that they are creating intense panic among their fellow low-information attention-junkies.

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keithnlarsen 1 point ago

Doh, I just up voated this, but now I do know I've been in contact with someone who was exposed and tested positive. No extreme symptoms though, more like a cold, tired, sore throat, etc.

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mrj5552 1 point ago

My coleague's wife is being tested now. Praying she doesn't have it, because she has been sickly and has needed surgeries the past 2-3 years. Also, I might have to self quarantine if she's positive.

Yeah, I am under thirty, so I got a good chance, but it's real folks, believe me.

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spezholio 1 point ago

That one is staying gray, frenz. 😰

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NaturalAC1 1 point ago

I know someone who knows someone who had Coronavirus symptoms.

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Weremoose 1 point ago

I know two people second hand who have it. (As in, I know people who know two people who have it)

That's it, tho.

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Wuzizname 1 point ago

I don't know anyone who knows anyone or has heard about anyone else knowing someone with this virus.

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Flcentipede 1 point ago

*as far as I know. But supposedly many people carry it without symptoms so who really knows.

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booblitchutz 1 point ago

The closest I know is a person who knows a person who is sick but can’t get tested (and why is that? Because the symptoms don’t match maybe?) but that didn’t stop this person from blasting on FB for a million “likes”. Poison!

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wethepepe 1 point ago

I was thinking about this today.

So weird most people don't know anyone who's had it. No friends of friend stories

But half a dozen celebrities and politicians have it??

let me go get my tin foil hat because there's plenty of great conspiracies that could be started as to what's going on with that

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malooch 1 point ago

I swear I've been asking people the same thing? Do you know anyone who has this? Do you know anyone who know's anyone who has it?? So far it's been all no's which I suppose is good. Very clear the majority of this is media/politcally induced

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DJTrump2020 1 point ago

I don't know anybody with it and although I moved a couple years ago, the majority of my Facebook friends are from Kirkland Washington. You would think with this being such a huge crisis that out of the hundreds of people I know in the "epicenter" that one of them would have it, or even one of them would be posting about someone they know that has it.

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Amren977 1 point ago

Have you guys been in to the coronavirus subreddit lately? All it is, is trump bashing and literal chinese bots. Jesus Christ I hate reddit.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago

What about the other flu killing people?

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JamesSunderland 1 point ago

Not personally. But I heard from someone close that a cashier at a supermarket chain I go to regular has it. They heard it from their nurse friend.

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VisualScience 1 point ago

I know a healthy man who is 40 and has bad symptoms. He's on day 5 or 6 and it's really bad (apparently peaks and then fever breaks on day 7, feeling much better on day 10). Dry cough that he can't shake, really strong malaise (very low energy like Jeb), low grade fever. He said it's similar but a bit worse than the walking pneumonia he had 2 years ago.

His mother had it (in her 60's) and felt like she coughed up a piece of lung. Said it was the worse sickness she's had in her entire life. Her husband (also in is 60's), had it and said he just thought he had a mild cold.

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LtPatterson 1 point ago

We killed the world economy over a slightly more dangerous virus than the average coronavirus. Well done.

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EPic 1 point ago

Lets I know someone who is a vising nurse ( visits homes ) in a very large city. Still no one they know or patients or patient helpers / family know.

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Schiffblower 1 point ago

Someone at my job just tested positive. They Are in good spirits tho. Mild symptoms. Test took 4 days to come back.

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jdtiger 1 point ago

to try to actually calculate it, for the US -- studies suggest the average person knows about 600 people. Using 330M for the population and 18,641 for the known cases of WuFlu, then 96.6% (318.79 million people) of the population doesn't know anybody with the virus. And it would really be a good bit higher because that was assuming none of the people's social networks overlap at all, but often you are going to catch the virus from someone you know, so there's gonna be a lot of overlap.

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BornAgainAmerican 0 points ago

Please edit the title and correctly name it "China Virus".

"Szechuan Sniffles" is also acceptable.