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posted ago by UsurpTheNarrative

How does that sit with all of you?

POTUS need only make an EO and this will be how China makes things right. Alternatively, de-couple their economy.

Lets remind China who the ALPHA Nation of the Earth is at this time.

How does that sit with all of you? POTUS need only make an EO and this will be how China makes things right. Alternatively, de-couple their economy. Lets remind China who the ALPHA Nation of the Earth is at this time.
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KAGallthetime 191 points ago

Decouple the supply chains. Kick them out of every financial institution, make them a pariah. Maybe this virus will awaken the world to the evil Chincoms.

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IncredibleMrE1 102 points ago

Agree. No more deals with asshoes.

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UsurpTheNarrative [S] 31 points ago

What happened with Hong Kong anyhow?

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WeebWhacker 43 points ago

Just like global warming do-gooders stopped pretending to care about it once something real occurred that actually affected their lives.

"We need to outlaw harsh chemical products that create a carbon footpri... OH NO GET ME ALL THE HAND SANITIZER AND LYSOL WIPES YOU HAVE NOW"

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Nellie_the_Beaut 9 points ago

Lol, yep! “Let’s just all use tea tree oil and white vinegar mixed with some baking soda and - IT’S KILLED HOW MANY?? Give me that ammonium chloride shit right now! No, stronger! The kind you have to wear a gas make to use!! I need enough to fill my bathtub!”’

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17RicaAmerusa76 2 points ago

Hahaha, right on the money.

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DittoHead 22 points ago

And Chuck U’s THREATS to the Supreme Court Justices???

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human_centipede 17 points ago

Wuhan China Virus stopped teh protests.

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callaway86 4 points ago

Not true at all, they are still going, and some decent sized ones given the situation.

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Jabroni421 41 points ago

I think we should estimate the damage and take at least a portion of our debt owed to them off the balance sheet

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NormaJeanRocks 28 points ago

Might be pretty damn close when its all said and done with how much this fucking virus is screwing us, financially.

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Chalupamancer 24 points ago

Its affecting local communities tangibly. After so many weeks I expect a lot of institutions, even extremely important ones (Churches, food pantries, private schools, ect), that worked hand-to-mouth budget-wise to simply collapse.

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NormaJeanRocks 20 points ago

If I'm this pissed off right now, cant imagine what Trump is thinking. He'll work it out somehow though, I have complete trust in all his decisions

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Wyndthough 8 points ago

Lol look at this troll sneaking in here

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NimbleNavigator 8 points ago

"sneaking"

"HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW MILLIPEDES?"

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NimbleNavigator 6 points ago

You mean that thing your commie overlords did through their political-media complex while they were trying to falsely impeach the guy that actually was spending that time working on Coronavirus defenses?

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门 Wuhan Flu 武汉流感

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Rawnold_Reagan 4 points ago

The media freaking out and blowing this out of proportion is what did that. Trump was trying to keep everyone calm . Ebola made you bleed from your eyeballs and die and it was highly transmittable. No media freakout and Obama did nothing.

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DittoHead 4 points ago

It’s so sad to watch

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CQVFEFE 11 points ago

Chincoms

That damn N again, always makin' trouble :)

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lancerprime 11 points ago

It was a good letter dindu nuffin going back to college to get a degree in math. Shame on you!

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SwampSwan 2 points ago

Underrated comment right here!

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago

I upvoted, but I don't know why

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17RicaAmerusa76 2 points ago

Because he was a good boy, went to church and loved his mother! :: three dead in gangland shooting over 5$ worth of smack::

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Valiazaner -1 points ago

Need to go further than this. We need to declare war on them before it is too late. the Chinese don't want to displace us, they want us dead. We need to use biological, conventional and nuclear weaponry to nip this threat in the bud before we are destroyed.

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KAGallthetime 1 point ago

Do you recall MAD? China got nukes too

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17RicaAmerusa76 1 point ago

China has T-Notes, T-Bills and T-Bonds. Those have redemption dates. Can't just cash it all in at once.

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago

We need to use biological, conventional and nuclear weaponry to nip this threat in the bud before we are destroyed.

We need to be grateful you're not in charge

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Rugar22 108 points ago

It's all China's fault. Fuck them for ruining our beautiful economy. And I bet you the Democrats were in on it somehow too.

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StillplayenSometimes 62 points ago

They're happy!

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bangbus 52 points ago

The smarter Dems I know are more worried now than they were 4 weeks ago. Because they know Trump is going to drop helicopters full of cash on people and the disease isn’t going to be nearly as bad as the “cure.”

If the economy is even remotely stable come November the guy will win in a landslide.

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WinWithMe 22 points ago

smarter Dems

I know some of these, they're the ones still entertaining the possibility that there miiiiight be a biological basis for sex differences. It's about the highest thinking attainable by a lefty these days, and it exhausts them into needing a few hours of cat videos to recharge.

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FreeSince76 8 points ago

To be fair a to be a smart Dem doesn't require much. The important qualifier there is Dem. Smart is borderline irrelevant.

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Assault-Covfefe 3 points ago

Even my Trump hating liberal sibling is worried about her 401K. Somehow she still blames Trump but when I point out that it came from fucking Chickety China and what was Trump supposed to come out and say at first: "My fellow Americans, we are fucked'?, which would completely tank everything, she sees my point. Once this passes and people can go back to consuming, the economy will recover. Of course more slowly than it cratered, but it will recover.

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Rugar22 1 point ago

Keep working on your sibling, she will eventually come through.

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1776_DN 26 points ago

Do not buy communist slave labor goods.

Do not do business with party-controlled communist firms.

Do not spread race-baiting and freedom-shaming communist propaganda.

Do not have sympathy for brainwashed communist agitators.

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TuxPseudo 18 points ago

Show them no mercy as they seek our total destruction.

Fuck them and feed them dirt

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CampinAndBam 4 points ago

We have one supplier that we can use for a certain product in our franchise, and it’s only made in China. The franchisee will not let us use an alternative. Seriously sucks

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Wsemenske 3 points ago

I have always been pretty complacent and ignorant of my purchasing, but I think I'm going to seriously stop buying anything from China as much as possible.

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 12 points ago

It's all China's fault. Fuck them for ruining our beautiful economy. And I bet you the Democrats were in on it somehow too.

The United States has a lot of financial obligations. We have a military to fund, we have Social Security obligations, Medicaid and Medicare, and interest on our debt.

The conventional way to fund our obligations is via taxes on United States citizens. In 2018, the IRS collected 3.5 trillion in taxes.

But there's another way to fund our obligations: Treasury Bills.

Now that they've crashed the economy, it's accomplished two VERY important things for the US economy:

  1. A year ago, the United States paid 3% per year to borrow money via 30 year Treasuries. Now it's less than one percent, a reduction of over 66% in borrowing costs.

  2. When stocks are cratered, investors buy bonds out of fear. When investors have no idea how low the stock market will go, bonds are the obvious place to invest.

As Rahm Emmanuel famously observed, "Never let a crisis go to waste."

And that is where we are at. We are at a turning point in the global economy, where countries all over the world have been spooked enough to liquidate their investment in stocks, and they will soon pour into bonds.

This is remarkable, because it not only provides trillions of dollars for the USA, it does so using dollars that are overseas. China, Japan, the UK... They will all be buying US Treasuries.

It's almost as if the Federal Reserve figured out a way to get the rest of the world to pay America's taxes.

Here are the top three holders of U.S. Treasuries:

  1. UK

  2. China

  3. Japan

At this point in the post, you're probably wondering why it was necessary to crash the economy. This is for a couple reasons. The first is that you need to instill fear in people, to get them out of the stock market. When people feel secure, they invest in stocks. The second is that the U.S. needs to get the interest rate down. IE, when treasuries are only yielding 1%, the maintenance cost is 3X cheaper than a year ago, when they were yielding 3%.

When all of this blows over (and it will), the United States will be in an incredible position, with trillions of dollars in cash exchanged for Treasuries yielding just one percent. This stockpile of cash will go a long way towards paying our present and future financial obligations, mostly at the expense of Japan and China.

Remember how Trump said we'd build a wall and Mexico would pay for it?

Well now we're also making Japan and China pay for it.

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ADAM_SCHITT 7 points ago

Except we still have to pay that money back and we already owe $24 trillion or whatever.

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 9 points ago

Except we still have to pay that money back and we already owe $24 trillion or whatever.

That's right.

The United States has to pay it back. In the year 2050. At an interest rate of one percent.

That's an extraordinarily good interest rate.

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ADAM_SCHITT 4 points ago

I think you're overestimating the amount of 30 year T-bills they sell. They sell them at a ton of different lengths from 1 month to 30 years. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/interest-rates/pages/textview.aspx?data=yield

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago

I wish I understood more than half of this stocks & bonds discussion, because it seems intelligent.

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 2 points ago

Basically there's two major ways to fund the operation of the U.S. government:

  1. taxes on American citizens and American businesses

  2. Money borrowed via U.S. Treasuries

The first one is fairly well understood I think.

The second one is straightforward: Individuals or banks purchase Treasuries from the U.S. Treasury. Treasuries are IOUs. Basically it says "The United States will pay you "x" amount of money at some point in the future."

For instance, you might decide to purchase $10,000 in 30 Year T-Bills from the U.S. Treasury.

This means that you are trading your cash for an IOU, and in 30 years the U.S. will pay you that cash back.

A year ago, those Treasuries paid 3% per year.

Now they pay 1% per year.

This means that the U.S. can borrow THREE TIMES as much money, while paying the same amount of money interest. (Because the yield on Treasuries has fallen from 3% to 1%.)

The three biggest holders of U.S. Treasuries are Japan, China, and the UK, in that order.

So Japan, China, and the UK will be funding the operations of the U.S. government.

It's almost as if we've moved the U.S. tax burden onto Japan, China, and the UK.

I am not a fan of globalism, but this is one of the weird outcomes of it: China sells us things, we pay them in U.S. dollars. They have to do SOMETHING with those dollars; now they'll be giving a lot of those dollars right back to us. They'll be exchanging THEIR dollars for OUR IOUs.

Fun fact: U.S. Treasuries were particularly popular during World War II. Basically the United States didn't want to debase it's currency, like Germany had. Instead of creating money out of thin air, they sold Treasuries. By doing so, the USA could get dollars that it needed, and pay the obligation later.

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago

Excellent

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human_centipede 7 points ago

The Democrats ran distraction AKA peach mints.

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Hexagon 4 points ago

Need to start looking at the bribes.

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STEVE_HUFFMANS_BULL 73 points ago

If you owe the bank a million dollars, you have a problem

If you owe the bank a trillion dollars, the bank has a problem

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MAGAngelo 22 points ago

You, I like you.

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UltimatePistachio 52 points ago

Do both. Fuck communists, fuck China. Two scoops.

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STEVE_HUFFMANS_BULL 24 points ago

I’m a fan of the one China policy, as long as the government in Taipei are the ones in charge

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thingaboutarsenal 10 points ago

Republic of China intensifies

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Chick-fill-eh 10 points ago

Liberals believe the brainwash. Chinese trust the CCP

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Lion_Party 7 points ago

True, but we have plenty of ammo to sink them or shoot them down

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almond_activator 2 points ago

The Chinese are fucking sneaky, unimaginably brutal, and wholly vindictive.

They also stick out like a sore fucking thumb. The leftist descendants of European peoples are hard to pick out from a crowd with the naked eye unless they do us the favor of self-selecting, but I can spot a Chinese person from a hundred yards out.

If they try to change the rules, we can play by the new ones just fine.

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undercovermaga 2 points ago

there are plenty of Chinese Americans and Chinese immigrants who are as pro America as you can be. yeah you can pick out a Chinese or black or Indian person easily but what good is it when you don't know their thoughts? they're just like the whites, you don't know what they're thinking unless they self select

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago

They have enough prisoners alone to just ship them here with or without permission.

If they did that, do you doubt Trump would turn them away at the shore?

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GaiusOrangeJulius 34 points ago

What is China?

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Madman2020 39 points ago

Asshoe!

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IncredibleMrE1 22 points ago

ASS

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Nomies 10 points ago

ASSHOE

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DiggRefugeeAllstars 27 points ago

No.

The CCP is over.

Then we talk.

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DittoHead 5 points ago

Never going to happen. But yeah we should completely disassociate ourselves from them. Unfortunately companies like Apple and Amazon partners will continue manufacturing them.

It will take congressional action.

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Rugar22 1 point ago

We can always ban their products from our public schools. Only support products in our school systems that actually support American values.

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UsurpTheNarrative [S] 23 points ago (edited)

200 Votes while taking a shit. Not bad.
Seriously though, China has to do something for the World to make this right.
If they do not there will be hard feelings.

Id love to see Emperor Pooh's face when he realizes this just happened and it happened from Social Media!

Maybe from now on China will be a little more careful with dangerous microorganisms? One can only hope.

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Caitiffculprit 14 points ago

If they would permaban the disgusting wet markets where they can buy and eat dogs cats Bats pangolins snakes weird fish etc we would stop getting these viruses jumping species so much. It was clear back in 2003 with SARS that the wet markets were to blame and here we are in 2020 with a new SARS related virus and wet markets still open. They need to pay

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aconcernedtroll 13 points ago

This was from a lab, not a simple bat disease.

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rte2023 6 points ago

Doesn't matter what it was. Either way, it's from asshoe-istan.

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aconcernedtroll 3 points ago

It does matter. bc perma-banning wet markets isn't enough. China should not be allowed to maintain BSL-4 labs. France should have never built them one.

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FLTrumpnado 3 points ago

To summarize for Bernie Bros:

CHINA IS ASSHOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DocOne 4 points ago

The lab was selling the bats to the markets.

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RenaissanceOfHope 6 points ago

It’s intentional by China. I want revenge.

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SheepleMaster 3 points ago

"Permabanning wet markets" is China getting off easy.

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 4 points ago

Seriously though, China has to do something for the World to make this right.

They ARE going to do something to make it right: they're going to fund the United States government.

Money is going to be pouring into U.S. Treasuries, because they're a safe haven in a financial crisis.

The three biggest holders of U.S. Treasuries are Japan, China and the UK.

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PAIN_TRAIN_69 22 points ago

I call for the United States government to strip property and business rights from Chinese citizens and support the expulsion of all their diplomats. We need to rid of the virus that is China from our infrastructure altogether.

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ClownTamer -3 points ago

China’s still a very valuable economic partner. We just need to work on fair terms, not China’s underhanded terms.

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PAIN_TRAIN_69 12 points ago

That's the problem. Fuck their terms, they don't get final say on anything involving our citizens.

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FLTrumpnado 4 points ago

Exactly............time to totally FUCK CHINA on terms just like they do to everyone else:

CHINA IS ASSHOE!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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ClownTamer -2 points ago

The trick to dealing with China is calling them out and not backing down, which Trump is doing. Most of what they've gotten away with is because it would diplomatically be in 'poor taste' to call them out on it in public if you value SJW points, like with their currency manipulation, or just widespread intellectual property theft. Trump doesn't give a shit about SJW points. He called China out, and is going to keep pressing them into fair and reasonable terms. The Kung Flu is wonderful leverage to that end into getting China to act like an honest adult.

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almond_activator 6 points ago

China’s still a very valuable economic partner.

China is a pile of water buffalo shit with an ego the size of a sperm whale. They aren't a valuable economic partner - they're a parasite, same as they've been since Mao took over, and before then they weren't so hot either.

The US MADE China an economic force worth respecting to counter the Soviets. It was the greatest mistake Nixon made - perhaps the greatest mistake any American President made in the 20th Century.

Cut them off. Stop playing their games. Stop letting them cheat.

They'll be back to subsistence farming in a generation, if they don't rip their nation asunder trying to reconcile the declining standard of living with what their government has promised them.

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ClownTamer 2 points ago

We did make them an economic force, with the idea that we can profit from that, which we can. There's still a crap ton of people out there that buy American goods and entertainment.

I do hope the CCP implodes though. It's not like anybody likes them, even Chinese people in China hate them. It's an actual crazy and evil government. Not as bad as North Korea, but nobody likes China for a reason.

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WanderingWotan 3 points ago

China's risk as a trading partner is no longer worth it. I'm very much in favor of trade with India- we share a legal system, a culture, a language, and their potential is even greater than China's

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ClownTamer 2 points ago

I’m down for teaming up with India against China and running China into the ground. They’re way nicer than China.

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WynnBigly 17 points ago

Acceptance of any trade between our countries signals acceptance of “ debt paid in full”. Thanks for the Wuhan Virus! Fuck you, Asshoe! Communism sucks dead goat balls!

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ripturntle 16 points ago

Remove China from the UN Security Council. They should not have veto power on the world stage (even if it is toothless) if they cannot stop plagues from escaping their borders.

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The69thBrokage 15 points ago

r/NFL is literally banning people for saying that the CCP is pushing the racism narrative.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 10 points ago

As I've already posted to someone else making this suggestion, there's a problem: the 14th Amendment.

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

When Obama suggested he would order the suspension of dividends on government bonds if Congress didn't go along with his plans, this became a hot topic. It also caused the first and only downgrade of US government bonds in history.

Even if Trump could do it, it would probably be more damaging in the long-term. If investors in US Treasury Bonds realized the federal government could refuse to pay dividends or principal (at maturity) on a whim, the bond ratings would crash and the Treasury would have to offer higher interest rates to get investors to take the risk.

However, there is plenty of precedent for seizing assets. But, that could lead to an economic war that we could probably win, but at an enormous cost -- especially after the hit we will take this year.

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ClownTamer 7 points ago

I’m glad not everybody is jumping on the ‘fuck the debt to China’ bandwagon. If we can just up and do that, other countries can up and say ‘fuck the debt to the US because colonialism’ and other nonsense. I’m all up for opening up negotiations on how China can help make this right, but not honoring our debts is a horrible, horrible precedent to set. The media still controls most of the world. All they have to do is continue painting the US as a Disney villain and suddenly everybody thinks it’s cool to not pay their debts. Honoring contracts is central to the rule of law.

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_TheConsumer_ 6 points ago

Pay the debt - but tell China to hit the bricks. We can do it on our own.

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Canadian-Bacon 3 points ago

There is some precedent for not paying debts to foreign governments. What with the whole France thing.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 3 points ago

There is some dispute about that. A French journalist claimed we didn't, but the Secretary of State had already announced two decades earlier that it was paid in full.

Either way, it predates the 14th Amendment.

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SheepleMaster 2 points ago

What do you think of the idea of minting a trillion dollar coin to pay the debt? I've heard that one bandied about

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DisgustedByMisleadia 0 points ago

Who would buy it? Unless they could sell it for more than $1T in the future, it would be a poor investment.

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LtColVindmansVagina 2 points ago

Trump has stated before that if interest rates become competitive internationally (as in we go to 0 or less) he'd consider asking our debtors to take less and to refinance. I see this as a remote but realistic possibility.

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DisgustedByMisleadia 3 points ago

Asking someone to voluntarily accept a renegotiation is different than an executive order to unilaterally do it.

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LtColVindmansVagina 2 points ago

OK I see where you're coming from. I agree wholeheartedly

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Barbs 0 points ago

Or we print so much money that we devalue our currency and buy the t-bills back for pennies on the dollar. Of course our credit would be shot for a while, but right now the petroleum market is in a shambles anyway, and that’s usually what keeps the dollar strong.

I do agree that there’s no good options if this is the road we want to go down.

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UsurpTheNarrative [S] 10 points ago

Or we can just declare Communism Illegal under International Law and deem that Political Ideology a Human Rights Abuser by default.

Our system is so far from perfect but it towers against everyone else's. We are not an Ant Colony and should not be moved by fear and force but rather love and ambition.

China can kiss our collective asses.

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Canadian-Bacon 3 points ago

"Prisons should be abolished. Use carrots, not sticks!" "Capitalism should be abolished. Use sticks, not carrots!"

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_TheConsumer_ 9 points ago

I’d prefer that we pay the debt and decouple. We should not be relying on a Communist regime to supply us.

With a stroke of a pen - make food staples, medicine, medical equipment, automobiles etc strategic resources that cannot be made by foreign governments. Give Americans tremendous subsidies to start these businesses at home.

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ChuckieG 2 points ago

Yes, this shit is crazy we even allow it.

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Rothbard 8 points ago

They should pay reparations.

All countries should calculate the economic costs and send a bill to China.

Its the same as war. Germany fucked up. We made them pay up. China fucked up. They should pay up.

If not the world just isolates them until we are paid. If they dont pay quickly other countries will take up the manufacturing and they will end up entirely losing their market.

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Vinyl_Hunter 7 points ago

No forgiveness. No trade. No diplomatic relationship. No travel. Absolutely cut off from America.

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FLTrumpnado 7 points ago

Economically embargo CHINA like we do IRAN!!!!!!!!!THAT WOULD BE FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!

CHINA to USA: HEY FUCK YOU WE STOP SHIPPING MEDICINE TO USA!

USA TO CHINA: HEY FUCK YOU NOBODY ALLOWED TO SHIP ANYTHING TO CHINA!

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AnastasiusFoct 6 points ago

I've seen this being sent around a variety of places online

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It's both hilarious and worrying as this type of propaganda will just push the CCP to lash out violently

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almond_activator 7 points ago

No citizen of China owns property abroad without a connection to the CCP. Everything they have bought in our countries was paid for with the blood of slaves. It does not belong to the thieves.

Fuck the CCP. Fuck them all to death.

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Santaball 2 points ago

FUCK THEM ALL TO DEATH!

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Trumper007 5 points ago

Nah not now. Later perhaps but not now.

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TinderWolf 4 points ago

Not enough imo. They should be the new fucking Cuba. Complete blockade.

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Ubiquity 4 points ago

This gives us an opening to bring back industry from China, and thats why im glad Trump is putting focus back on them. They started this shit and blaming us while trying to use their propaganda to look rosie and shit. Fuck them, and this time everyone is pissed at them. Ruin them and I only feel bad for the people living under the CCP.

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MAGADUDE 4 points ago

We don't owe them squat. They owe us and the rest of the world.

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Trumptastic88 4 points ago

China would start a war

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CQVFEFE 4 points ago

China has no chance to win a war vs. US. None. Zero.

They know it. You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it.

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almond_activator 1 point ago

Nobody wins a nuclear war.

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axrevolutionai 4 points ago

They'd be flattened before they can even launch the first nuke.

That's why China would never do anything, the US is the sleeping giant and sleeping dragon all at once, wake it up and annihilation is the only result. We play nice with the middle east because they are subhuman third worlders and it'd be inhumane to obliterate them in minutes.

China is a fully developed global superpower, they know what they get themselves into if they cross us

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Nicholas 3 points ago

That's just the thing. Watch Chairman Pooh be the crazy asshole to end humanity. Not Fat Boy Kim, not some Mid East bakalaka jihadi, but an actual five foot nothing crazy person.

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago

Nobody wins a nuclear war.

Unproven, yet highly improbable that both sides would accept a declaration of a draw.

I'M NOT ADVOCATING NUCLEAR WAR. So if they hit us with a couple nukes and then we nail them with 30 or so, and they crumple and crumble, that isn't a draw. That said, I'M NOT ADVOCATING NUCLEAR WAR.

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trout007 4 points ago

When someone is irresponsible with a credit card the best thing to do is cut it up.

There is no reason to pay the debt. Dissolve the Fed.

Time to get this book.

https://www.amazon.com/End-Fed-Ron-Paul/dp/0446549193

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 0 points ago

Never going to happen.

Would be nice if it did, but it won't.

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45times2 4 points ago

Totally agree! And oh, btw, ɐuᴉɥƆ is asshoe!

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FLTrumpnado 1 point ago

To translate for those without any creative ability:

CHINA IS ASSHOE!!!!!!!!!

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irongeek 3 points ago

average Chinese person: "what's an empathy?"

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DinosaurAlert 1 point ago

"You know how you sometimes are sad or injured?"

"Yes."

"Empathy is not wanting others to feel sad or injured.'

"...why is that my job"

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MythArcana 3 points ago

They need to be curing viruses, not creating them.

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OrangeFruitGood 3 points ago

I think the silver lining in this is that this will redpill more people when Trump lifts the economy back up again.

Right now it's easy for the inattentive to assume the narrative that "Obama's economy" finally "took effect" once Trump took office.

When the economy is hurt by this virus hysteria, and then Trump, being the genius he is, picks it back up again, you won't be able to say "Obama did that". (Unless you're just a TDS patient)

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OnlySlightlyNaughty 3 points ago

That really isn’t how debts work unless you are a filthy Democrat.

Is China going to suffer the consequences of stalling on news of a pandemic so they could save face? Absolutely, I believe every country is poised on slapping these fuckers hard. We are not the only enraged country. This could have been cut off entirely if they had shut down travel at the same time they initiated quarantine and shared what they had learned. But China has got to fucking China and pretend they are the supreme authority.

They are going to learn from this one or everyone will shut them the fuck down.

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BanditKing 3 points ago

May start a war. If it is proven to be a manufactured bio-weapon, then by all means go for it.

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Chrismarshall 3 points ago

At the very least. The 850B /1T $ bailout package (it is needed) should be deducted from our debt

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 1 point ago

At the very least. The 850B /1T $ bailout package (it is needed) should be deducted from our debt

It's not going to be deducted from our debt, China is going to pay for it. China buys tons of Treasuries and now that the stock market is tanked, everyone in the world is going to be piling into Treasuries.

The U.S. is paying just one percent on 30 year treasuries now.

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brxn 3 points ago

First Google result:

The U.S. debt to China is $1.07 trillion as of December 2019. 1 That's 16% of the $6.7 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries. The rest of the $23 trillion national debt is owned by either the American people or by the U.S. government itself.

Quit acting like we are in debt to China because they hold T-bills..

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 2 points ago

There's nothing wrong with selling Treasuries to China, if they want to fund the United States, so be it. We're only paying one percent now. It was three percent a year ago.

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brxn 2 points ago

That's what I'm saying.. You have people acting like we literally owe China 23 trillion US dollars.

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Two_Scoops__ 3 points ago

Holy shit I thought this was a Trump tweet and my heart stopped

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SurfandTurf 3 points ago (edited)

Give it time.

Edit: I said this in jest and I know that the credit-worthiness of the USA is incredibly important, and defaulting on debt is not going to happen, but China owes the world reparations.

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jschmid4 3 points ago

China let this virus spread.

I call for REPARATIONS to Deplorables from the Chinese Government due to our economic loses! #Based

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LibertyOverSecurity 3 points ago

This gets a sticky. I love this place!

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USA-2020-KAG 2 points ago

Would sit great with me. Put it into a chapter and be done with them. Sorry China! (NOT!)

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DragQueenTruckDrag 2 points ago

Lol would be epic

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BrewSkiMAGA 2 points ago

!!ENDORSED!!

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Gamecraze 2 points ago

I don't know much about this, so my suggestion would be to consider all communist governments to be illegitimate and not pay any debts until they are no longer communistic. Interest is frozen while the government is under communism. I have no idea if this is feasible though.

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago

Constitution predates communism, but it doesn't say the US must repay its debts only if certain conditions we like are met by the other country.

The creditworthiness of the United States can never be questioned.

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MAGA_MAN_ 2 points ago

SPICY

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TheXthDoctor 2 points ago

Do it. DO IT! DEW IT!!!

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Bravo1 2 points ago

I need to double vote this!

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ImpeachImpaired 2 points ago

China is the biggest outside threat to America.

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RenaissanceOfHope 2 points ago

PAID IN FULL NATIONAL DEBT!

NO FORGIVENESS!

BOYCOTT & DIVEST FROM CHINA PERMANENTLY!

LET THE CCP REGIME BE CRUMBLED AND THEIR CONSPIRATORS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE!

Fuck China, the CCP, and the China/Wuhan/Coronavirus!

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Not_My_Real_Acct_ 2 points ago

Why would we ever want that?

We're only paying one percent per year on our debt.

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry 2 points ago

I approve this message

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AsshoeCommies 1 point ago

....wait, this isn't an actual Trump Tweet? I clicked the link at least twice expecting to be on Twitter. Well crafted.

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astro_eng 1 point ago

LEGIT REPARATIONS

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Xnyr21 1 point ago

We're about to go to war with China i think. Shit is gonna get bad.

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astro_eng 1 point ago

End the payments NOW!!! TODAY!!!

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Red_Ensign 1 point ago

Make China an agrarian backwater again. I like it.

They would make their people suffer though. Unfortunate.

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MaleWithAPenis 1 point ago

I love this

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savman 1 point ago

I LOVE IT!!!!

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King 1 point ago

deadbeat nation?

bring on the downvotes. lets be a nation where no one is responsible.

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King 3 points ago

well, not paying their slaves would make us....slave master masters?

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nrjk 6 points ago

Yeah, but imagine your credit card company giving you a virus that makes you incur medical costs and loss of income. Yeah, fuck the debt they hold over you.

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_ra247 3 points ago

Agree. Obv Trump will wrap this all up in a DEAL. It’s a bad message to the world community that we may not honor our debts. And so Trump will 4D chess it into reality I have no doubt

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byron 1 point ago

I don't think you're quite understanding this, the debt would be paid in full (China pays for it).

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King 0 points ago

we would lose global reserve currency status

and the banksters would have to invent something new, most likely based on imf SDR, or revalued gold reserves

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Mythologick 1 point ago

Unlike reddit when someone’s post is deleted and the account banned we should still be able to see what the dumb cuck said.

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Scuffers 1 point ago

Whilst I applaud the idea, this is the kind of move that provokes a hot-war

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Bizz408 1 point ago

fuck paid in full. It's about time they start paying US. Bleed them fucking dry like a male domestic abuser in divorce court.

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Razeontherock 1 point ago

The whole world needs to default on all debt to China. China owes the world a debt it can never repay.

Many more steps need to be taken worldwide:

Nationalize all Chinese investment in all our Countries

Kick out all Chinese citizens, never allowing them to return

Boycott China

Disable / destroy their level 4 lab

Military alliance to insure China doesn't bully anyone in the south China sea. 60 years is a good initial short term goal.

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CarlosCornPopDelecto 1 point ago

Also, any Chinese owned property in the U.S. is ours now. Thank you very much.

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masshole3 1 point ago

You forgot:

"P.S. FUNGOO!"

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mrspaulrevere 1 point ago

Years ago I knew something was wrong. I think it was around 2011. I'm from LA and in the Rose Parade there was a float from Shanghai. No explanation of "sister city" as there usually would be with a foreign float. Just treated as normal as if it were from Orange County or a town in Kansas. I said to myself, wtf?

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polish_snausage 1 point ago

Good idea... Except, I don't know about the Forgiveness part.

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SiBear117 1 point ago

Bing, Bang, Bong!

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Howz3r420 1 point ago

Now be gone from me you soy boy beta cuck!

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Power 1 point ago

I’m wondering if Chicom Pooh bear is actually part of the problem or just a face. This virus had all the markings of a weapon, so if China used it does that mean they secretly/accidentally declared war? They stole the virus from Canada long ago, articles from 2015 show they’ve been aware of this strain I’m curious though when all the places who do this research, do so in the name of creating vaccines, why has no progress been made ?

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PinkoPatrol 1 point ago

but will forgive you

Speak for yourself. Even if they forgave the national debt - which I had no part of - they can fuck right off and dive into a volcano.

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Blackhammer 1 point ago

We were never in debt to China. That was a scam. China was built using US TAXPAYERS MONEY. China aint got nothing and will have even less when we get to producing our own Things. LET'S GO AMERICA!!!

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JoePedo2020 0 points ago

I’ve been thinking about this too. Perhaps Trump struck a deal with Xi and that’s why he’s being so aggressive. This virus does not look good for Xi so making amends with America would be a good look for him.

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McDolphin 1 point ago

I feel like China would rather burn in hell than say sorry to America.

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Redmoon 0 points ago

We should nuke China off the map. No more chinese pandemic diseases if there are no more chinese.

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hereticpatriot 0 points ago

This is actually a great opportunity for the USA to turn the worlds ire at China. So yeah, write off what we owe them and seize vital interests they’ve bought up here. Other countries would follow suit, starting a chain reaction to completely cut off China’s influence. Let’s finish off globalism Patriots.

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TheHonestLion 0 points ago

I think China deserves punishment in some manner, maybe even charged for our medical efforts, but outright declaring our debts paid would not only risk open war, it would make us seem unreliable in regards to our honoring our debts.

This would hurt our relationship with most all countries.

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DeeboIsBack -3 points ago (edited)

I said this was a bioweapon a month ago and got banned for it. I tried to save lives and got banned for it. You can thank the mods for spreading misinformation and costing American's their lives.

Edit: I've been banned so many times for this I dont know what account number I'm on. I've supported our president from day one and I would honestly like an answer for why I was banned. I never broke any rules just like reddit not free speech just your speech. SAD!