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posted ago by pede-o-saurus

Something's wrong. There's too much buzz going on around the internet about crisis actors, bussing in Antifa dressed in MAGA hats, bringing in sniper towers. The left has a plan to manage the Monday rally to their benefit. So you need to outfox and outmaneuver them. Change your plan!

I know some VA organizers, or people who can reach the organizers, must read here, so please do something like this:

  1. Cancel the rally, loudly and publicly, citing concerns about the threat to public safety from government use of force and Antifa. Get that narrative out there. Announce that anyone in Richmond on Monday does not represent you.

  2. Instead change to something else like simultaneous county-level rallies, another city, perhaps a different day. Move your key speakers there so it's clear that's where the rally is.

  3. Use your organizing structure to circulate private messages among your members and use that to do things like:

  • Have everyone show up in jackets or suits. Everyone. Have members bring extras and set up fitting areas, get everyone suited up. It's hard to sell the message that a mob of people in dress clothes are a public threat.

  • Enforce credentialing. Don't allow public attendance, just attendance of your members. Make out-of-state visitors show an NRA or other gun group membership to be permitted in, or pass a quick interview about gun culture, etc. Weed out plants.

  • Decide on a credentialing symbol, like a specific flag sticker, and have everyone who has passed through credentialing given the prearranged symbol to wear.

  • Live post to the internet to show your numbers on a wide variety of platforms.

  • Do something to be countable. Have all attendees make a donation to something your opponents hate, like a gun group or (even better) Trump 2020, so the President can talk about how much money the VA dems raised for him and thus amplify your message. Try to get as many individual donations as possible, even if it's just for $1.

  • Pass out lots of signs like "Hands off guns! Voting Republican in 2020" to connect the numbers to upcoming election results and tell VA leadership they are living on borrowed time and have to move carefully if they want to keep any power in the future.

Turn their plotting into an opportunity and suck the oxygen out of whatever nefarious scheme the left has cooked up.

Something's wrong. There's too much buzz going on around the internet about crisis actors, bussing in Antifa dressed in MAGA hats, bringing in sniper towers. The left has a plan to manage the Monday rally to their benefit. So you need to outfox and outmaneuver them. Change your plan! I know some VA organizers, or people who can reach the organizers, must read here, so please do something like this: 1. Cancel the rally, loudly and publicly, citing concerns about the threat to public safety from government use of force and Antifa. Get that narrative out there. Announce that anyone in Richmond on Monday does not represent you. 2. Instead change to something else like simultaneous county-level rallies, another city, perhaps a different day. Move your key speakers there so it's clear that's where the rally is. 3. Use your organizing structure to circulate private messages among your members and use that to do things like: - Have everyone show up in jackets or suits. Everyone. Have members bring extras and set up fitting areas, get everyone suited up. It's hard to sell the message that a mob of people in dress clothes are a public threat. - Enforce credentialing. Don't allow public attendance, just attendance of your members. Make out-of-state visitors show an NRA or other gun group membership to be permitted in, or pass a quick interview about gun culture, etc. Weed out plants. - Decide on a credentialing symbol, like a specific flag sticker, and have everyone who has passed through credentialing given the prearranged symbol to wear. - Live post to the internet to show your numbers on a wide variety of platforms. - Do something to be countable. Have all attendees make a donation to something your opponents hate, like a gun group or (even better) Trump 2020, so the President can talk about how much money the VA dems raised for him and thus amplify your message. Try to get as many individual donations as possible, even if it's just for $1. - Pass out lots of signs like "Hands off guns! Voting Republican in 2020" to connect the numbers to upcoming election results and tell VA leadership they are living on borrowed time and have to move carefully if they want to keep any power in the future. Turn their plotting into an opportunity and suck the oxygen out of whatever nefarious scheme the left has cooked up.
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fthecoup 54 points ago (edited)

Some other post thread up above just now and I agree:

President Trump should go to this rally and be the keynote speaker.

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RedDuck 55 points ago (edited)

I like the spirit of it. But I don't think it's a good idea.

There are apparently a lot of people willing to go to Virginia and protest publicly for their rights. This is a good thing.

Northam is making a big deal out of this, call in the national guard etcetera. CNN in the press is going to be all over this.

This is a good thing.

We want massive massive crowds of Patriots on camera. They must be peaceful, they must be disciplined. Do not let them intimidate you into staying home, so that only left-wing activists and racist groups are the ones that show up on camera for this rally. We need lots and lots of normal Americans.

Bring lots of cameras, document everything, every bus that goes in and out take its license plates. Take video of the people going in and out, make sure that any false flaggers are traceable, so that 4chan can do their work.

Again be peaceful!

If the government guns down a bunch of peaceful protesters with snipers, it doesn't matter how CNN sells it. It will be the spark that blows up the left forever.

But again we must be peaceful. Don't go there dressed as Nazis and start firing at random soldiers. Don't let anyone in who is dressed as a Nazi or racist.

Remember the point is not to take over some Capitol building or some silly thing like that. This is a battle for the hearts and minds of 400 million people.

I pray for peace, that all America sees is a bunch of patriots who love their rights standing up for their rights, and for America to see that they are not alone.

But if violence does occur let the government be the one that starts it! And yes, this means taking copious footage to catch any potential false flaggers.

If violence does explode the press will make it look bad at first, which is why it's essential to get video out, and be ready to fight the information war afterwards. The organisers need to organize a systematic the surveillance of the entire protest. A complete picture must be available to document the events, you cannot rely on CNN Fox news or random citizens. Be disciplined be smart and God be with you!

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Beachboy1b 31 points ago

May God watch over Virginia in the coming days.

Just you watch. If AntiFa initiates violence and innocent people die, you know how we’ll react. We’ve been waiting for these sons of bitches to go too far, and I think we’re about to see it. The President will feel great anguish, and a great righteous fury. We all will.

More than anything, we need cameras there. We need to capture anything and everything that may happen.

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RedDuck 25 points ago (edited)

Antifa dresses like demons and acts like demons. What a contrast to see a bunch of godly men and women standing up for their rights, compared against them.

Just one video of an innocent, peaceful protester being gunned down by Northam and his thugs will cause a wave in this country.

Do not bring your guns, this will justify it. Be unarmed be peaceful, bring your cameras, and your faith in God.

And you were right to remember that the president of the United States is on our side. Let our side to be as gentle as lambs during this confrontation. That way Trump can come down hard in the wake of it.

Let's make the Democrats fear God again.

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txladyvoter 3 points ago

Remember the President can nationalize the National Guard. Pull the rug right out from under the guv.

http://www.americaslibrary.gov/aa/eisenhower/aa_eisenhower_littlerock_1.html

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OhLollyLollyPop 3 points ago

This is what should happen. It's legal for Trump to declare an emergency. He could even say that on MLK day, all demonstrators should be safe.

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NostalgicFuturist 1 point ago

If Northam can fucking do it, Trump can do it.

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Wanderfar 18 points ago

This is the Comment to up vote. I am in VA. Nought another gun today, the store was PACKED and they are running out of stock. They have organized a bus and busses are filling fast. This is going to be a MASSIVE peaceful protest. Get there if you can.

remember the Tea Party crowds... that put the fear of God into the politicians looking over that sea of people. And then the powers that be come to crush it. Targeting from IRS being prominent. Hang tough. Be respectful. I like the "wear a suit" comment and might do that except its so damn cold. WWG1WGA

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Jcholl9 6 points ago

I love your positive outlook but be careful! The democrats are starting to get dangurerus and they don't care about your safety Pede...

Bought another gun today, the store was PACKED and they are running out of stock.

I'm glad you people of VA are fighting back! Do you know the election for Ralph Northam was rigged right? You need to recall him ASAP! From what I hear there are petitions going around in Virgina...

Get these petitions signed and force that loser to step down!

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Mubga 18 points ago

Ask the proud boys, especially the ones in jail, how well your idea worked.

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Yawnz13 8 points ago

Don't just bring lots of cameras, bring extra batteries.

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago (edited)

But if violence does occur let the government be the one that starts it!

If violence does explode etc., etc., etc.

I vote for OP's plan. It's better thought out, more positive, less violent.

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OhLollyLollyPop 2 points ago

The government set it up in Charlottesville and blamed it all on the conservatives. This is Terry McAuliffe 2.

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Thundfin87 2 points ago

I was gonna say all they need is a scared kid like Charlottesville. Then it's all the sudden a white supremacist gathering

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NostalgicFuturist 1 point ago

Exactly. And this is Richmond FFS, not little ole' C'Ville.

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NostalgicFuturist 1 point ago (edited)

Same here. This is obviously a divisive issue, and I'm a bit torn between sides. I even find myself upvoting both! But I was really impressed by a former SEAL's smart, well-thought warning against going.

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/

He's a guy of proven courage--but also smarts.

Edit: He also has good advice for those he knows are going anyway, similar to what people are proposing here, cameras, keeping your cool, scouting out the surroundings, rooftops, windows, etc.

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rooftoptendie 19 points ago

I saw someone on American Thinker in the comments section suggest that the rally be called off, and do a GENERAL STRIKE instead. Stay home. Buy nothing, go nowhere.

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MarySmith 12 points ago (edited)

This is the answer. One or two months of not buying, using, watching, and doing will put these companies who buy our laws and control us with structured narratives on full blast panic mode. Six months of continued effort will effectively put them all out of business. One year of it and we can wipe the current crop of behemoths out, and shut the invasive internet platforms down.

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Cue_Cumber 6 points ago (edited)

And after approximately 21 days, all the strikers will discover they have developed brand new habits and lifestyles, which is a very good thing for us as individuals, families, and as a nation! We'll wonder what the hell we ever bought, used or watched X for in the first place. Oh boy -- will THAT ever panic them! And it will help bring a spiritual/cultural revival! Seriously! We should do this!

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AtariArtist 10 points ago

You can do both.

Not working and consuming doesn't mean you have to sit down and shut up.

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Cue_Cumber 3 points ago (edited)

" . . . do a GENERAL STRIKE instead. Stay home. Buy nothing, go nowhere." IOW, have one of my typical days?

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OhLollyLollyPop 2 points ago

Most people and kids are off on Monday anyway.

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Barbieblonde 16 points ago

Trump needs to stay out of Virginia. It is not safe for him to go, since the government became completely controlled by Socialist Democrats. It is lost for now.

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NostalgicFuturist 0 points ago

Rooftops are a great vantage point...

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fthecoup 18 points ago

I'd like to go to that tea party in the harbor tonight but I heard there might be trouble.

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CucumberInLine 19 points ago

This.

Of course it's a trap. That is why we must go. The trap is triggering either way, the only difference is how our side presents ourselves.

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FancyBeerCoozyBeer 14 points ago

Yeah, "calling it off" may as well mean "send in only a few gung-ho well armed people straight into a violent counter-protest." If you've ever held leadership outside of a chain of command, you'd know about the realities of herding cats.

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rooftoptendie 11 points ago

thats the best argument i've heard so far that it might be better to go than not... If everybody suddenly doesnt go, then it will just be 500 of our craziest and angriest and most determined cats in a pen, defenseless, with 250 LEO's and 7 busloads of pantyfa, and a media army all trying to provoke them.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 8 points ago

Or the organizers could move it a few miles down the road. ::taps forehead:: Tactics are a thing and there are other options than walking into the trap. Like walking around the trap.

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NostalgicFuturist 1 point ago (edited)

https://virginiaconservatives.net/ may be the main organizers.

I was in touch with a worker by email who told me they were avoiding the secure area.

[email protected]

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Antenna 1 point ago

I follow American Joe (YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrUkx0UAxgybbbMvWphd62Q/featured His website: https://www.americanfreedomsupply.com/ He's posting videos - on the road now.

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CQVFEFE 0 points ago

It's like talking to a wall, OP. You did your best.

Some people can't resist obliging when some a-hole picks a fight.

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lilwhitejeep 7 points ago

This ain’t 1773 my friends. Be wise. Our opponents are using different weapons, the internet and video are a whole different ball game. Propaganda goes out instantly and we don’t want to be set up for it.

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CQVFEFE 0 points ago

But we ARE set up for it. That's the reality.

The only way to stymie the left wing extremists is to not walk into their trap.

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lilwhitejeep 1 point ago

Amen bro

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Picador20 4 points ago

Wait until Tuesday when CNN is crying buckets of crocodile tears about the violent thugs in MAGA caps like you who went to the rally and started all the trouble.

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Paul_Revere 14 points ago

Reluctantly, I must agree. As much as I'd love to see a show of numbers in opposition to Adolf Northam's unconstitutional and illegal pronunciamentos, it's becoming clear that the loyal Americans who attend this rally will be walking into a trap. Don't fall for it, fellow patriots!

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Cue_Cumber 1 point ago

Adolf's Glazedham? For Easter dinner.

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fthecoup 6 points ago

I’d like to go to downtown Hong Kong tonight to protest Chinese tyranny but I heard there might be trouble.

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Yawnz13 -5 points ago

But here you are not protesting.

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chopz 1 point ago

Think the post is making a sarcastic point. How people want to protest but are too scared to act against tyranny for fear of safety

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Reev_Jax 6 points ago

The thing is if we always call our plans off every time the left pulls this shit how would we ever get anything done?

I say, ID them, report them, shame them, make it known who they are. I can't imagine it would be that hard to pick them out.

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CQVFEFE -1 points ago

It's too late at this stage to implement a perfectly crafted plan. So you abort the mission and come back when you do have a plan. You don't just let the enemy dictate the terms of engagement.

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fthecoup 5 points ago (edited)

I’d like to put on my yellow vest and protest the socialist Macron in downtown Paris tonight but I heard there might be trouble.

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Yawnz13 -9 points ago

Yet for some reason you're here and not there.

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AutumnCrystal7777777 2 points ago

I don't know if this idea is worth the hijack but it would be good if there was some press to catch antifa right off the bus to ask them what the second amendment means to them.

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generalshermansballs 47 points ago

My respect for anyone trying to stand up against this bullshit in VA.

But man 75% of the people there are going to be government letter fags.

We know the FBI/CIA/ATF/etc. hate the right.

Be careful out there boys.

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AtariArtist 31 points ago (edited)

Or you can allow ANTIFA and the media to not hold you hostage.

Optics? Newsflash, the media hates you. They will not stop hating you because of a change in plans. They will spin it however they want.

Responding to the left is ceeding control to them. They want you to stand down. They always have and will.

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Mc_TheDonald 20 points ago

EXACTLY!!!! They control all the optics. They will never perceive guns in a positive light.

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CQVFEFE -2 points ago (edited)

They want you to stand down.

God what bullshit. They want a war. They want bloodshed. And they want to pin it on naive patriots who showed up to wave their flags. If you stand down, they can't do that.

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1A2A 5 points ago

You remind me of Trudeau, "If you kill your enemies, they win."

Let's all just stand down, just like in Europe because if they protest against the Islamic invasion it'll make them look like racists! REEEE

GTFO!

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CQVFEFE -2 points ago

Go get suited up then

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AtariArtist -4 points ago (edited)

Next thing you'll know they'll try to fabricate something to impeach the President.

Who the fuck cares? They will say what they want. So I don't. That's the nice thing about having nothing to lose. You have everything to gain.

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OhLollyLollyPop 2 points ago

No matter what, they will blame it on Trump.

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CucumberInLine 25 points ago

if we abandon the plans or change venues that just ensures false flag with maximum casualties, and won't change the optics. as many patriots as possible.

as far as vetting: who watches the watchers? who validates? can actors play a role? false sense of security and provides validation that the shooter will be labeled as 'one of us.'

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pede-o-saurus [S] 13 points ago

Both issues were already addressed in:

  • Point #1: You need to not be in the capitol and loudly have told the world in advance that you're not going to be. A false flag only works if they can connect it with you and if that's not where you are, it doesn't work. Suck the wind out of their sales. As many patriots as possible - but not where they're having their false flag.

  • Point #3: There already is an existing structure capable of vetting its own membership. There are organizers and those all belong to existing pro-gun groups which all have existing memberships lists. Turn the rallies into closed events. If you don't belong to at least pro-gun group, shame on you and no you can't attend.

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CucumberInLine 8 points ago

I agree with your other points, but not these two.

1: watch me shift the narrative.

last minute change of plans was not communicated and resulted in several rallies. one was filled with white supremacist trump supporters and got ugly.

or just makes it easier to pass off a false flag with actors somewhere with no patriots to protect as legit.

3 - closed rally means less patriots. we need as many as possible. anyone can join nra just by donating. even if it could work, false flag will just move to perimeter. again, needs to be as many patriots in one place as possible, united against evil.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 8 points ago

Your reply formatting is a big confusing. I'll do my best:

  1. "last-minute change confusing people": Well, you have to be competent at organizing and that includes communicating (note my post is to the organizers, not the the general public). The easiest thing to do is loudly and publicly reschedule for another date, that disassociates the movement from any false flag.

  2. "we need as many as possible" - no, you need as many non-plants as possible, a bit different. 1000 patriots plus 1 plant who can create bad media is much worse than 600 solid patriots. It's a media battle, imagery counts for a lot.

  3. "as many patriots in one place as possible, united against evil." - Allow me to suggest that in 2020 we could be substitute "as many COUNTABLE patriots". If, for example, 1M people make coordinated donations to President Trump and the NRA (even if it's $1 each) and the next day they are both out in the media talking about getting 1M new donations yesterday because of Virginia, that's a big number. Or photos from a pro-gun rally with 100,000 people that happens to be in a city other than Richmond work just as well as photos taken in Richmond. It's the numbers that matter, not the location.

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CucumberInLine 3 points ago

apologies for formatting.

number one was meant to illustrate what the media will say. they lie. free thinkers already know - we are trying to awaken the rest.

I agree with two and three in the sense that we need as many non plants as possible. one location ensures this. new location fractures and then bad actors will start announcing their own with only plants present.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 6 points ago

That's why I said "loudly cancel" not reschedule. But then you actually reschedule. Here's why, look at the news cycle:

  • VA gun leaders announce they cancel because of a threat to public safety due to Antifa and a government with an itchy trigger finger. This links gun owners and responsibility in people's minds (high ground maneuver)
  • They now are the news and can go on media explaining how Anitfa and the government are ready to start violence. Let's link Antifa, VA government, and violence together in people's minds,
  • Other gun groups that disagree (but aren't the VA organizers) say "No, we have to stand up". Fight between gun groups. Media loves to see groups fight so it publicizes this more, but it's all a constant red pill bringing visibility to the underlying issue as the groups argue "We should fight VA government tyranny this way" "No, we should fight VA government tyranny that way" and all anyone hears is "VA government tyranny"
  • Then the groups actually have a rally, maybe in a different location or a different time. News cycle owned again.
  • Then they make themselves countable through donations that let national figures, preferably President Trump, talk about it. News cycle further owned.

End result perception-wise: Gun owners appear responsible, numerous, stand against tyranny, although maybe with some internal disagreement about organization. VA state government appears tyrannical and/or irresponsible and linked to Antifa, which appears as thugs. That's a pretty good outcome.

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CucumberInLine 4 points ago

okay, that is a pretty great plan to capture optics.

on the flip side... cancelling shows you can be intimidated and charges pantifa as well, wouldn't you agree? then what happens when antifa starts threatening trump rallies? what about the rescheduled rally? these fools are immune to facts and driven by Soros etc. i think the best bet is to have a strong showing and put down the traitors quickly. that will send the message we are not going to bow to them; they must change or it will be them on the ground.

if we can turn this to federal jurisdiction, we can activate the reserves to ensure nationwide protection and move forward with other plans. bussing in antifa for violence already is reason enough for martial law and military activation.

I like the way you think.

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ed_shaw 3 points ago

".....cancelling shows you can be intimidated and charges pantifa as well, wouldn't you agree? then what happens when antifa starts threatening trump rallies?....." There's a difference. This looks like a setup. Trump rallies do not.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 3 points ago (edited)

on the flip side... cancelling shows you can be intimidated and charges pantifa as well, wouldn't you agree?

It does somewhat, in the short term. But I'm trying to learn from our President that when you have the real force, you can choose timing/venue to your advantage. When Iran attacked our drone, we had an attack being spun up, but he didn't like the feel of the response and instead cancelled it, loudly and publicly. In the short term maybe Iran felt empowered but most observers thought "That's good restraint" and he reserved the right to respond at a later time in a way he though best. Some time later, when Iran launched attacks on our embassies, he vaporized the general responsible and his henchmen, only. So like him we know we can respond, but we can be smart about the manner and type or response. What we really want to do is something they don't expect. So if they have a plan for dealing with a huge rally on Monday in Richmond, let's not do that, and instead figure out what they least expect and want us to do and do that instead.

... continue reading thread?
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pede-o-saurus [S] 3 points ago

Anyway, the main point isn't to do it exactly this way, it's to change the plan to something that isn't what the left is planning for. The details are up to the organizers.

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feelips 20 points ago (edited)

Virginians should change their venue to D.C. This should be made into a U.S. vs Virginia civil rights issue, because that is what it really is. Just as the governor of Arkansas, years ago, tried to use state police and threatened to use the National Guard, to deny Arkansas minorities the right to attend desegregated public schools, another state governor is in defiance of the authority of the federal government and it's duty to defend the civil rights of its citizens.

The President should, again, use federal law enforcement, or even federal troops, to secure the rights of the people against the government of a state that is in rebellion. A state government actively denying, or threatening to deny, civil rights is also rebelling against the supremacy of the federal government and the Constitution of the United States.

The citizens of Virginia, by protesting only inside virginia, are acting as if this was just a local government trying to vote higher property taxes in the middle of the night after promising not to. This is a state with police officers, prosecutors, prisons, and even a military, denying their civil rights. It is the duty of the Federal Government to intervene and defend the rights of the people of Virginia against the tyranny of the Virginia government. It is also the duty of the Federal Government to defend the Constitution of the United States against the domestic enemy that the government of Virginia has made itself to be. It would better serve the people of Virginia to spend their time and energy reminding the federal government of that fact.

Every argument, petition, demonstration, march, or campaign by the people of Virginia to their government has been and will always be ignored by the current state government. Their time, energy, and money would be better used to petition the federal government to take action in Virginia to defend their civil rights against a rogue state government that is rebelling against the federal government and the Constitution. For a state government to deny its citizens any of their civil rights, is to deny the supremacy of the Constitution and the Federal government as its defender.

Neither Governors, nor state legislators are immune to federal laws. Many Governors and state legislators have gone to federal prison for violating federal law. It is punishable by fine, imprisonment, ,or even death, to deny or conspire to deny people of their civil rights. This is what the governor of Virginia and his legislators are guilty of. The federal government must be made aware of this, and must be pressured into investigating and prosecuting them.

EDITED several times for spelling/grammar. I just woke up. Fuck it, I'm leaving it alone now.

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The__Michael 18 points ago

This is a false flag operation if I ever saw one. The Coonman is praying for blood so he can justify his bolshevik ways to take away our rights. Steer clear pedes!

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CyclopticErotica 4 points ago

If he does get his blood people will finally have to make some hard choices.

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Evei 3 points ago

If there's bloodshed, he justifies his reasons to take away guns "See! They're violent terrorists! We need to confiscate guns!"

If no-one shows up, or there is a really weak showing, he justifies his reasons to take away guns "See! The resistance to this idea is just internet hype, people are reasonable and don't have a problem with this. We need to confiscate guns!"

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

A big rally, not in his staged area is best. The rally goers can tell the cameras they refuse to be set up like at Charlottesville.

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pede-o-saurus [S] -3 points ago

Hmm, if only there were some other dimension other than 2-dimensional thinking. If only...

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Marshall 3 points ago

Appeasement never works.

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fthecoup 15 points ago

Will this be your advice, attitude and approach toward ANY public future meeting or rally of American patriots? Because of speculation? Are we men or mice?

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pede-o-saurus [S] 16 points ago

You can be men without dumbly doing what your opponents want. Did I say to reduce the crowds or slacken the pressure in any way? NO. I said don't do it where they expect you to.

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fthecoup 19 points ago

I respectfully disagree. I wish all of America could be in Richmond, Virginia on 01/20/20. This is a "storm the beaches" moment. A public stand against these traitors must be made. If the traitors chose to false flag the event, Americans will see through that.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 11 points ago

Your point is taken. But think about this: Richmond is an armed camp on lockdown, with police, sniper towers, barricades, 9 busses of confused-looking Antifa, and nobody else. Ghost town. The dem reps look fearfully out the windows trying to figure out what's going on. Someone runs in yelling "Turn on the TV!" They turn it on and there's a massive rally, streets filled, thousands of people carrying "DEMS MUST GO" signs - and it's in Norfolk.

That would be both effective and funny as hell.

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PatriotDefense 3 points ago

At the Pentagon? In NoVA, where the problem is, supports the military, etc.

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Evei 1 point ago

I think it is a bit short sighted to assume that the government hasn't anticipated this move. Maybe not at this event, but in the future, they will have busloads of people to supply both sides of the protest, and just run the narrative any way they wish.

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pede-o-saurus [S] -1 points ago

In real life nobody has infinite resources and your adversaries are never omnipotent. If Monday AM the organizers announce "Oh, BTW, we're not going to the State House, we're going over here" it takes time for adversaries to adapt and adjust their responses. That's a thing called tactics and it's surprisingly effective when actually used.

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NostalgicFuturist 1 point ago

Some sort of tactical feint like that would be brilliant but hard to excecute--doing a U-turn at 80 mph.

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Faintlight 7 points ago

The masses never see through false flag events. I'm surprised everyone knows Epstein didn't kill himself.

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fthecoup 3 points ago

I'm surprised everyone knows Epstein didn't kill himself.

It a start!

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TerraHertz 2 points ago

This. An Epstein look-alike but with the wrong ears died. In photoshop to the wrong scale. All the jail camera feeds failed, because swapping Epstein out and the other guy in (probably already dead) took a lot of people walking in and out of the cell.

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OhLollyLollyPop 2 points ago (edited)

There are no DemComs that believe Charlottesville was a setup.

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phate451 1 point ago

Horrible advice

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

Why. Go a mile down the street to a park. Same difference but no traps.

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NostalgicFuturist 1 point ago (edited)

The demonstrators in C'Ville gathered in a park and were pushed out with shields by helmeted state police, into the street where an AntiFa welcoming party was waiting for them.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago

Except Antifa will just walk a mile down the street too...

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Barbieblonde 15 points ago

I hate to say it, but peaceful demonstrations are not realistic anymore, in that if there is advanced notice of a gathering, the leftists will appear to cause trouble on the ground and official trouble via government and local authorities.

The right to assemble has been revoked. Prove me wrong.

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Marshall 7 points ago

They haven't tried massive demonstrations by those bearing arms. I really don't believe Antifa has the ca hones to attack anyone that could fight back.

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learntocode 5 points ago (edited)

Mass demonstrations of armed citizens is, of course, an easy thing to turn into "they shot first" crisis. However, it is also a true threat to the limited means the state has to control the population. The aim of the mass armed demonstration has to be crystal clear to all sides. Whoever dares to lead or financially support it will face all kinds of trouble as well.

If fuckery ensues it will make it easier for anti-gun police-state supporters to rush through anti-gun laws and make outlaws out of everyone in the country (the way our current "anti-terror" laws do).

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Evei 2 points ago

The feds would love nothing more than an excuse for their SS to open fire on people at a 2A rally.

Peaceful demonstrations are impossible at this point because if it's a hot topic, the globalists will use their vast lake of money (taken from the US middle class taxes) to pay animals to show up and guarantee violence to happen.

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spez_this 13 points ago

At this point I'm afraid it may be too late to make any significant strategic changes. There is too much momentum and too little time. At best, maybe arrange to hand out flyers at the rally with recommendations on how to avoid problems, and how to react if things go bad.

FYI, VCDL (Virginia Citizens Defense League - vcdl.org) is one of the lead organizers and has organized buses from most of the Virginia counties.

Pray for all attendees and hope that everything goes smoothly.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago

OP iz a figgit

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OGTD1 9 points ago

Actual Richmonder here, as of two hours ago I have changed my plans because I do not believe that my rights to assemble peacefully will be protected. Two separate groups of people will be allowed to mix with some on the left posing as those on the right in order to incite mass violence. Thanks for posting this OP. I agree to change the date and location or spread out the days. I may go on Tuesday. The legislation won’t even be there on Monday, the state is shut down. God bless you all and feel free to flame me. I’m a father of two young boys and there may be a time to go to war with my government but this is not it. I will work the phones and let the legislature know that this is their fault and anything that happens is such as well as my rights being violated.

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fugg 2 points ago

This is the way to do it. This thread turned into a circle jerk of "Muh treason". Virginians who are against what the government is doing probably did not vote because this is what the Dems said they were going to do all along, and people voted for it. Citizens need to track every bill and watch the pork ones, and stay on top of their representatives.

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OGTD1 2 points ago

There are a few reasons one of the most glaring is the RNC just took it laying down. All I have to vote for is a dem 10 year incumbent and a dope smoking libertarian.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

Also, there are R legislators that back these bills.

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TheNakedAmbassador 7 points ago

Regarding point 3 - please take note of Amanda Chase's FB message:

If people show up wearing any kind of uniform, patch or other symbol on their clothing signifying they belong to a militia and something goes wrong, you could/will be held as a domestic terrorist.

https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senate/posts/2840596102672514

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gawd-emperor 7 points ago (edited)

Or just try and hand all traitors to the constitution, legally

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MAGA-licious 5 points ago

The constitution belongs to leftist judges.

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TopKeksWithFrens 7 points ago

Fuck yourself right off you fucking faggot. Turncoat plant posting shill

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pede-o-saurus [S] 10 points ago

Fuck you right back; outmaneuvering your opponents isn't shilling and you get 0 points in politics for being stupid and predictable. You can see from my post history I'm no shill, so fuck your stupid manipulatable self right off .

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TopKeksWithFrens 17 points ago

I read your old posts, I apologize, I jumped the gun and thought you came off as a brigade from the other side trying to throw wrenches into spokes. My bad, I'm sorry.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 6 points ago

Ok, we're cool, patriot. MAGA!

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ZOANOM 7 points ago

Well that escalated and de-escalated quickly. LOL

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TopKeksWithFrens 5 points ago

Thanks brother :)

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spez_this 6 points ago

Thank you for the apology. I was lurking on this post and thought that your earlier response was a bit overboard. I wish more people on this site would go back and review their comments after cooling down.

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TopKeksWithFrens 3 points ago

Yeah I felt bad afterwards and I should have checked post history first. It's a habit I will be making myself do.

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phate451 0 points ago

You're a goddam shill. Don't listen to this imposter fellow pedes.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 0 points ago

Who's a shill now, account with 6 posts, 4 of them on this thread? Get lost.

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phate451 2 points ago

Triggered shills are the best shills.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 0 points ago

Oops, my bad. 7 posts now! So sorry.

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phate451 1 point ago

I'm glad no one took your shit advice for today.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 1 point ago

Didn't they? Maybe you should re-read my shit advice more carefully.

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NathanHale 6 points ago

I like this, it is a bit a Guerilla Tactic and is good idea

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K-Harbour 6 points ago

Trump, Pence, and Eastwood need to go to the rally

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fthecoup 6 points ago

That would be so awesome. Eastwood is based!

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Jcholl9 6 points ago (edited)

Yes I tried to post something like this myself last night... But you out-posted me! Which is fine, well done Pede...

Here's what I posted last night / (Not much but I was tired...)

Ok folks from VA don’t know if this is true or not, but, if you are going to the Pro-Gun Rally you need to be aware and careful...

https://twitter.com/Rosemar06585176/status/1218399219448340485/photo/1

Democrats want to use this as a plant for a call to VIOLENCE making us all look bad! And a good reason to declare the NRA a terrorist group and grab guns!

Post on Twitter, Facebook, Gab, etc whatever it take's but we need to get the word out ASAP!

But if you must rally? Virgina is handing out/ signing petitions for recalling Ralph Northam, join in this fight and don't stop until he's recalled...

Virgina is a beta test to see what democrats can and can't get away WITH

Get these petitions signed and force that loser to step down!

God speed Pedes!

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Cue_Cumber 6 points ago

The people who are against this post, and are insisting that it will be sufficient for the attendees to show up and be peaceful: OF COURSE THEY'LL BE PEACEFUL! SO WHAT? The enemy plan is to infiltrate and pull off a FF setup! It doesn't matter if not one true 2A supporter is there; all they need are masquerading infiltrators and a bunch of MSM cameras and voila'! Just like that, the nation will see a bunch of violent gun nuts, courtesy of the MSM, glazedham and his treasonous minions.

It's about optics, and that is ALL it will take to get that final push to get the guns: optics to convince all the people paying no attention that people like all of us are a terrible threat (Why, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!)

OTOH, dressing in suits and ties, skirts, blouses and heels; having to make a donation to POTUS; switching to another venue last minute; having POTUS speak if at all possible; showing some type of 2A ID or knowledge; etc -- all done very loudly and publicly -- will certainly put a damper on their plans. Showing up when, where, and how they want you to? Not so much. If you're going to be pro militia, them learn to think like militiamen, ie, strategically.

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LWGII 5 points ago

So when everyone stays away, the news will be that no one in Virginia cares enough to complain about the proposed laws, so the laws are GTG. How much coverage do you think 91 separate rallies will generate?

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pede-o-saurus [S] 1 point ago

Learn from the President. If on rally day a million donations for $17.76 to President Trump showed up, how much press do you think that would generate? 0 until he tweeted about it, then a boatload. In a battle for the news cycle, don't forget you're in a battle for the news cycle.

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godsgail33 5 points ago

Absolutely. 'outsmart them. ?Great post and Ihope people will be level headed enough to follow it.

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DinsdalePiranha 5 points ago

It makes me wonder how many Antifa NPCs they've told, "Yeah, you're going to die, but it's for a greater cause, man. You'll be a hero!"

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myvoicecountsonce 5 points ago

100% ghost them to leave egg on their face.

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Evei 4 points ago

This is likely the largest problem with your plan: Name a method of communication that isn't monitored by the tyranny. Our society is so monitored and scrutinized, that making such changes are nearly impossible without notifying the govt. that it is being done.

The first thing that citizens loyal to the 1776 Constitution need to do is establish means of communication that cannot be monitored.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 0 points ago

True but note my point is that the organizers should change their plan.This is not the plan here, this is the thread where we suggest the organizers change their plan (to one they make in secret and announce as necessary) and suggest proposals. The decision making is still in private communication.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

Don't assume the demonstrators are morons that can't handle their own deal. They are full of ex-military. This isn't like Charlottesville where the government effed over the citizens.

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BananaWizard 4 points ago

Good luck but we still need to show up in some capacity. How else is the gun control going to stop?

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phate451 4 points ago

"Cancel the rally, loudly and publicly, citing concerns about the threat to public safety from government use of force and Antifa."

This isn't how it works...

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

It can. Depends how it's phrased.

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MacwellX 4 points ago

ElderPede here: I have no physical dog in this race because I can't attend so this is just my opinion.

I have to say that I'm torn over this. On one hand we patriots cannot allow this government, or any government to take away the rights we were born with. On the other hand any violence will be seen as bad for us. No matter how many cameras we have, they still have to be seen by the majority of Americans to be useful. We know msm will paint anything as our fault. As far as 1776.2 anyone with 3 working brain cells know that would be bad for the whole country. That would give the deep state all it needs to bring in reinforcements. I believe it would destabilize the whole world. It's a tough call either way! ...KAG!

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Lemongrass5 4 points ago

Where did this gun rally even come from? The only thing I heard a out it is when that dude went in front of camera straight up crying people were coming to his state. All of a sudden it's the biggest story in town. Seems like a way for people to forget about the impeachment hearings.

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ImpeachedDeplorable 3 points ago

It's called "Lobby Day." They have it every year at the capitol. This time the focus became 2nd Amendment because of the gun laws being threatened in VA. So, the event always happens, this time it just attracted far extra attention and interest and people determined to show up.

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Spall 3 points ago

I am no longer going, Northam has suppressed my 1st with his clear threats to me. I am instead spending this weekend calling my local reps and senators at all levels and letting them know. Monday I will be calling and emailing as many democrats as possible to let them know that I will be supporting pro 2nd amendment candidates across the state with my time and money.

Obama killed the 1st iteration and rise of the Tea Party, it is time to reclaim the republican party and push down the globalists.

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Marshall 1 point ago

No on will be there. The government shuts down for MLK day.

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PEPE_the_Frog 3 points ago

IGNORE THIS POST. IT GLOWS IN THE DARK. DONT LET THE GUN GRABBERS SCARE YOU INTO NOT SHOWING UP. THE TIME FOR REAL PATRIOTS TO STAND TALL IS NOW! GO TO VIRGINIA ON 1/20

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Arwyn3x 3 points ago

Thank you, pede-o-saurus, I have been thinking this all morning. We have to out-smart them.

I like the idea of not going to Richmond at all and picking a new place or places.

I believe this is a demonstration of raw Government Power that is meant not only for gun-owners, It is also a

"Sit Down and Shut Up, or Elsie"

message for all Americans who think they will resisit the Unconstitutional Impeachment of our President

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Marshall 3 points ago

Appeasement never works.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 0 points ago

You keep posting this to everyone's threads that are not about appeasement. Shifting the rally down the road to mess with your opponents is not 'appeasement', it's 'being smarter than your adversary'. So open dictionary.com and type in appeasement and learn something.

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phate451 2 points ago (edited)

Your advice sucks. If we did with the British what you want here, we would still be under their rule. Grow a pair.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 0 points ago

Factoid: tactics existed during the Revolutionary War and we won because ours were better, so maybe you want to go a little bit further down that rabbit hole. If you think we won my doing what the British expected, I'd like to redirect you to Washington crossing the Delaware. Strike somewhere but don't be stupid and do what your enemy expects.

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MAGA2020KEK 3 points ago

Yes... something definitely fishing going on with this one. I assume we have undercover people that signed up for the ‘crisis actors’ ad that has been circulated. Be safe and God Bless!

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ItsTimeFor1776 3 points ago

"Important - VIRGINIA PEDES - GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS AND SUBMIT TO BIG GOVERNMENT" is how this reads

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OGTD1 1 point ago

You come on down here then.

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pede-o-saurus [S] -1 points ago

It's interesting that you see "CHANGE YOUR PLAN" and think it means "GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS AND SUBMIT TO BIG GOVERNMENT". Flexibility isn't submission, it's the art of war.

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Dell_Fargus 3 points ago

It's a trap. They're looking to create an incident. Being that Monday is MLK Day, they will make it about race (it isn't).

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TxSheepdog 2 points ago

You nailed it. Think timing like that is a 'coincidence?' Hah...Fed setup. But we do have to show the globalists we mean business. Pedes--film everything and never make the 1st move.

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Harambe 3 points ago

Backing down is for pussies and leftards

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pede-o-saurus [S] -1 points ago

Yeah? Is there some thread somewhere you're reading that advocates backing down? Because it's not this one. This one advocates CHANGING THE PLAN to do something they don't expect. Art of war, 'pede.

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archdog99 3 points ago

This! The impeachment is going to fizzle out and they need a new "crisis" for their cause. Look at all the mileage they tried to get out of Charlottesville.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

Impeachment TV doesn't start again until Tuesday.

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Faintlight 3 points ago

Agree with all of this. Do not have one centralized location. It would be so much easier on everyone to just go to their mayor's office parking area and upload videos. Don't let them organize violence again.

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YouGotbbQd 3 points ago

Stop being a faggot.

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Destineed369 2 points ago

this seems very see eye aye orchestrated to me. if noone but antifirst and antisecond people show up and start fighting they look really stupid. if we show up and they show up and theres trouble, its literally what everyone expects, because its engineered that way

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

Strangely, the local Antifa says they agree with the 2A people and want the Governor to back off. They plan to march in support of the 2A, not start fights. There might be agitators from elsewhere, though.

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TerraHertz 2 points ago

I'm glad that a lot of Patriots saw the state gov requests for crisis actors, put on their best Democrat/Antifa disguises, and signed up. Having plants inside the plants will make for some truly wondrous Veritas clips. Having 'crisis actors' who then make depositions to honest law enforcement regarding what Northam's goons instructed them and others to do, even better.

Just remember, both sides will have infiltrators, not to mention that all electronic communication, cell phones, etc are compromised by deep state elements. Don't rely on planning secrecy, because there isn't any. Also don't rely on cell phones for organizational command and video recording on the day. If things get even slightly iffy, the State will shut down the cell phone system in that area.

Most importantly "No plan of action ever survives first contact with the enemy." Otoh the Left can't meme - because they are morons & NPCs lacking in intelligence and imagination. Most on Northam's side will be like that, so their ability to pivot and respond creatively to sudden developments will be poor.

Patriot's aim must be to run a huge, peaceful demonstration of pro-gun public support. Left's aim is to turn it into a bloodbath, making Patriots look like violent, gun-toting nutters (and potentially, kill as many Patriots as possible.) Left expects to create a box, with the Patriot demonstration inside, to be manipulated and crushed at will. Patriots need to think outside that box. Several possibilities: bigger box, walk around the box, be elsewhere entirely, etc. Considering that Leftist gun confiscation is unconstitutional and effectively an insurrection against Federal law, ideally the army would show up to crush and recycle the entire nest of boxes. Too bad that's very unlikely.

Don't forget, the MSM are not your friends. They are knowing agents of the Deep State Globalist Left. They are much more your enemy than any state trooper or ignorant riot cop. If things go completely tits-up, choose your targets wisely. Also have your own people assigned to truthful event recording, a job the MSM will not do. For each camera crew, have others assigned to be continually doing backups and replication of camera memory cards in real time, then ensuring that copies make it out of any state-imposed boxes. Football tactics. Everything still inside a box at the end of the day, will be confiscated and never seen again. Just like the 911 videos.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

I think Trump will have the US Marshalls and FBI all over this thing.

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angryamerican1964 2 points ago

Have armed excorts right outside the rally

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

Trump should claim control of the VA Gusrd and send in USMarshalls. This whoke thing is a Soros and Bloomberg agitprop. Trump can shut them down and do it legally.

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flashersenpai 2 points ago

Not practical and enhances the heckler's veto.

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Marshall 2 points ago

I guess the Deep State has now infiltrated theDonald.win.

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Vashts1985 2 points ago

it is time for the fed to put its foot down. the VA legislating body has been infiltrated by tyrannical activists that are working to undermine the US constitution which the state has agreed to abide. declare a national emergency and send in the guard to arrest Northam and his tyrant assembly and try them for treason.

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fugg 2 points ago (edited)

It's almost as if Va. Is the proving ground for Socialism....voted in but will they have to shoot their way out? Hopefully cooler heads prevail and Virginians do it right next time at the voting booths. This is what happens when you don't show up.
Also, who signs up as a crisis actor if the plan is you get attacked by Antifa?

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New_User_4 2 points ago

If the rally does go, and the government starts shit, I really hope that the 2A crowd demonstrates why the 2A exists. That governor and the legislators who collided with him need to be made an example of to the rest of the political class.

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Belleoffreedom 2 points ago (edited)

Baffle them.

Spez: I don't think George Washington or Andrew Jackson would have walked, unarmed, into a holding pen, especially if they knew what Virginia's governor has planned. But with a couple hundred years of history behind them, maybe they would be so bold.

We know how corrupt the Democratic Party is. We know they pay for violence against Americans.

We do not need to play by their rules. We need to surprise them.

Put all the ideas in a pot, talk it over, and be disciplined.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

That's what they did to those innocent protesters at Charlottesville. Corralled them straight toward the Antifa.

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Jcholl9 3 points ago

Yes, email the President I did https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

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pede-o-saurus [S] 2 points ago

Bumping this from down-thread because this discussion got interesting:

What we really want to do is something they don't expect. So if they have a plan for dealing with a huge rally on Monday in Richmond, let's not do that, and instead figure out what they least expect and want us to do and do that instead.

Hmm, what do they most want us not do to?

How about this: recall the Governor. For real, go at it hardcore. Say "Yeah, that rally idea, we too much potential for Antifa thugs and itchy trigger-finger government tyrants to kill someone, we switched our plan. Instead we're going to do 'recall the governor day'." Then go at it hard. If you need, say, 200,000 witnessed signatures, and they raise the limit to 2 million, deliver 20 million to the capitol.

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BillionsAndBillions 5 points ago

They already have a submitted bill for that, raising the recall percentage from 10% to 25%.

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OhLollyLollyPop 2 points ago

This legislature is basically turning Virginia into a DemCom dictatorship with the laws they are trying to enact. It goes far beyong gun laws.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 0 points ago

Someone downvoted recalling the governor? Hmm, maybe I'm over the target on that one?

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pede-o-saurus [S] 2 points ago

Oh, they really don't like the idea of recalling the governor. Is that ouchy, shareblue? Good to know!

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Cutter 3 points ago

yeah I noticed that... and the fact that no objections were voiced.

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PatriotDefense 2 points ago

I think the problem is that it's too little, too late. Even if you could recall him, that still leaves Demonrats in charge of the legislature. Why wouldn't they elect another Lefty? How long would it take? If all our rights are lost in the mean time, then . . .

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pede-o-saurus [S] 0 points ago

Well, I'm no super-intellect, but if the problem is they hold all 3 branches of government and you take 1 away from them, then it seems to me they only hold 2 branches and that might smart a bit. And I bet if you can recall one lefty, you can recall another. I'm thinking that maybe losing their office bothers an elected official.

It's just an idea, and there are other things that could be done, but it's useful to poke at the enemy to figure out what it doesn't like and I notice the downvotes are strong with this one so maybe that's worth note.

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BillionsAndBillions 0 points ago (edited)

If you recall the governor, the lt. governor takes over, and he's even more extreme. Recall him, and you have yet another lefty. It sends a message but does not regain us one of the branches of government.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 2 points ago

Can't hurt. I'm thinking that it might impair the executive branch's ability to function if the people recall every new leader just when they start getting organized. And it sounds like a good message to send.

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FancyBeerCoozyBeer 2 points ago

When you say people "should do" something it's because they don't AND that they won't. Cause and effect can often be backwards in these situations, but in this particular one you're just trying to herd cats at the last second. Armed cats.

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pede-o-saurus [S] 0 points ago

Note that my post isn't to everyone, it's to the rally organizers.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

They don't need our help. They need help from POTUS to make sure they get home alive.

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americathegr888 2 points ago (edited)

Should tell u/VCDLOfficial on Plebbit, but I really doubt they will change their plans anyway.

That said that account and the VAGuns sub in general seems generally pretty pro-Antifa and anti-conservative, so they almost certainly won't announce they're changing plans because of Antifa.

They've had several threads celebrating Antifa attending and how great Antifa are and all this other dumb shit upvoted to the top of the sub.

Have everyone show up in jackets or suits. Everyone. Have members bring extras and set up fitting areas, get everyone suited up. It's hard to sell the message that a mob of people in dress clothes are a public threat.

People need to stop claiming this. It's not hard for the media to make up any narrative they please and it doesn't matter what you're wearing, they'll still call you Nazis and people will still eat it up.

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If we are just responding to the actions of the left, then the left is winning. I'm busted and cannot attend this, but I have serious respect for everyone who is brave enough to attend and make their voice heard in person. I am donating to every reputable person I can, who I know will live-stream or report the truth. Everyone should do what they can to make this successful.

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Suture_Self 1 point ago

I'm glad that I'm nowhere near Virginia. Whatever the hell happens, mistakes are going to be made. It's a giant confusing mess and I'll pray for all patriots involved.

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trumpsallright 1 point ago

Stay home and play division 2 and pretend its liberal progressives and antifa that have taken over D.C. So much fun with a 200+ round LMG. Laying waste.....

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richIsBored 1 point ago

March to the capital. They can't fence you in if you start walking from outside city limits.

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Rodger 1 point ago

I agree - the liberal nutjobs are just looking for a way to get the headline in the news about guns

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magachudd 1 point ago

Agree. This is a trap. Be smart pedes. I "believe come and take it" and partnering with local police, sheriff, and military member is better for now.

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Marshall 2 points ago

Nothing wrong with keeping your eyes open, but appeasement never works.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

I agree with this. Millions of people in NJ just refused to comply. With Sanctuary counties, what is the Governor going to do?

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TheOutlawPepeWales 1 point ago

"Endeavor to persevere."

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katsumi27 1 point ago

Make sure to have safety meet ups jic it goes south. Have an Alpha, Bravo, Charlie and Delta. Have people at home track you and keep you updated. Use the walker talkie app to keep in contact with everyone!

Wear suits like OP said. Look professional and act it.

Few days and the night before, send out scouts to pick out safety areas and note anything of importance such as escape routes, fenced off areas and areas of danger. Map it. Take pictures.

The morning if, send scouts out to see if any changes were made. Have a meet up meeting before entering the Lion’s Den. Bring batteries for phones and go pros. RECORD EVERYTHING AND LIVE STREAM IT TOO.

if things go south record it and the “victims”. These crisis actors need to be exposed.

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Brickman45 1 point ago

How about avoid it at all costs. Great start for a registry. Just use facial recognition on the crowd

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PEPE_the_Frog 1 point ago

this post is cowardly. To hell with the bullshit optics cucks. STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS IN VIRGINIA, DONT BE FOOLED INTO BACKING DOWN!

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MarySmith 1 point ago (edited)

Anything the agitprop media pushes to the surface and they all ruminate on to the point of it runs like a broken record is about the opportunity to incite race class gender war, and to push that perception. Look, they have demonized and dehumanized white males and white females nonstop for two years. Charlotte worked so well for them with the carefully stage managed fake right boogeymen. They do this without fear, without pushback. The citizens should sue the FCC so they do their job and pull broadcast licenses from the propagandists for spreading false narratives that successfully demonize and dehumanize Americans who are white and vote Trump. They keep chipping away at the human rights of American white people and now they are moving to criminalize the voting choices of the Trump power base, the patriot citizen voter..

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Marshall 1 point ago

Appeasement never works.

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Truglow 1 point ago

Crisis actor training program for Virginia? Saw this on another post here. It was linked to the crisis actors ad .Don't know if it has legs but if it does someone confirm. Btw look at their corporate members....

https://www.humentum.org/blog/surviving-my-first-hostile-environment-awareness-training-rsm

Update:

It has legs.

Ad was on the Virgina page now removed https://www.film.virginia.org/hotline/post/amissville-seeking-actors-for-ongoing-live-roleplaying-project-current-paid/

Original http://archive.is/3yGoQ

This is just crazy! Have the event outside the fence.

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Trump4a3rdTerm 1 point ago

No matter what happens the propagandists in the media are going to use this protest to try and hurt President Trump. Guaranteed.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

I am very concerned this will turn into another Charlottesville contrived by the Governor like that one was. Marches in all of the 2A counties would be safer.

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1A2A 1 point ago

This post is getting way too much attention, me thinks it's cucks invading this forum. Let's all stand down so we can have a bunch of local, no publicity events that nobody gives a fuck about instead, right.

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Gypsy6 1 point ago

It's a trap. It's a set up. Just looking at the area fenced off and the entry/exits gives any sane person definite WARNING signals! Regroup. Keep moving and go to another location.

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Jcholl9 1 point ago

Hi Pedes, I'm contacting the 'Virginia Citizens Defense League' who will join me?

Virginia Citizens Defense League https://www.vcdl.org/event-3648824

Defending Your Right to Defend Yourself

These people are trying to support 2A right! Help me reach out to them the more the better.

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NonyaDB 1 point ago

Or better yet, how 'bout no to all of your plans?
Let me see if I understand you. What Virginians are basically protesting against - registrations, bans, permits, etc. - you want everyone in the protest to actually do amongst themselves.
Yeah, fuck that shit.
Freedom isn't free. Sometimes you die for it, sometime you die from it.
There is no viable alternative to freedom.
It's locked in so buckle up, buttercup, because shit could get bumpy.
If you're so terrified of freedom that you don't want to show up, then don't.
But you can stop this boy's club clique bullshit you're trying to build right fucking now.

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SlothB77 1 point ago

nope. then we will never be able to protest for our causes

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Picador20 1 point ago

Everyone ought to write e-mails to all their local newspapers and TV news stations before Monday telling them that we already know that Antifa are planning to stage a False Flag event on Monday. If enough of us report the news to them first, they may have to think twice before reporting lies and propaganda to us.

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OhLollyLollyPop 1 point ago

The media wants a big rumble there. More people watching them. Wait and see... all the big media will show up.

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2020_Vision 0 points ago (edited)

Commies: Fascists will declare Martial Law.

Also Commies:

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pede-o-saurus [S] 0 points ago

Here's an example of disruptive thinking, i.e. switching up the plan to mess with your adversary, playing by 2020 rules:

  • It's Monday morning. Deep State is ready. Capital police are ready. Drones ready to go. Free speech cages ready. False flaggers ready. Antifags ready.
  • Busses show up and take people from all over VA to the capitol as planned
  • But they don't go to the capitol building. They go somewhere say 5 miles away.
  • Instead, one advertising truck with a video wall shows up, with uniformed private security.
  • They have a huge rally down the road and livestream it to the state house. All original goals are accomplished. Antifa, Deep State, false flaggers are left with dicks in hand. Womp womp.

Changing the plan is not appeasement. Changing the plan is tactics.

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Sunje64 0 points ago

Excellent post and great ideas. Thanks for sharing.

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MadClays 0 points ago

Great Advice. Upvote! This needs to stay on the top of the front page. Has anyone posted this on that, dare I say it? Reddit website

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NostalgicFuturist 0 points ago (edited)

I sent an email to the Virginia Constitutional Conservatives, who are one of the main organizers of the rally. I practically begged them to cancel the rally.

This was the only email address I could find. (I was in a hurry, the urgency of this can't be overstated.)

[email protected]

Also this article by a former SEAL lays out the reasons why a rally in Richmond would be a strategic mistake:

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/

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TrumpCard1776 0 points ago

Pro rally should no show and disperse and go door to door and educate. Getting the population behind you is utmost importance.

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VetforTrump 0 points ago

Agreed the threat analysis is through the roof. Make it damn clear your group pulled out. Deny the enemy.

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BillionsAndBillions 0 points ago (edited)

If people show up in the numbers predicted, they will probably false-flag something, so that pro-2A people look like what the media is already portraying them as (crazy white nationalist nazis).

If people heed your warning, and the numbers are tiny, those images will be broadcast of the tiny crowds unable to even fill the grounds, and the pro-2A people will be laughed at in the media as a tiny fringe group (of crazy white nationalist nazis).

They win either way, but numbers send a stronger message to the government directly.

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Picador20 -1 points ago

Anyone who participates in this rally is going to aid the Deep State Swamp Rats in their plot to harm Trump. This is another Charlottesville in the making. The Fake News channels have probably written their scripts already. Call off the rally before it's too late.

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Marshall 0 points ago

Appeasement never works.

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Picador20 1 point ago

Refusing to be a player in a drama where the other side has script control is not appeasement. By attending the rally, you are giving cover to Antifa members in MAGA caps who will discredit you by pretending to be you.

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Sagan -1 points ago

BIG

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K-Harbour -2 points ago

We need to form a virtual E-militia for Virginia that everyone in the country can join.

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Count_Dyscalculia -2 points ago

Just show up somewhere else in the city and don't say anything about why you and 15,000 other people are there. Just mill about then move to another place, mill about then magically disperse like a fart in the wind. Anyone who doesn't is immediately identified as AntiFa and Glow [email protected]&#^@s. Simple as that.

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Swolehas -2 points ago

I second this

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Marshall -1 points ago

Appeasement never works.

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Picador20 0 points ago

Refusing to be a player in a drama where the other side has script control is not appeasement. By attending the rally, you are giving cover to Antifa members in MAGA caps who will discredit you by pretending to be you.