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Mad_Hattie (9 points) *

I think bringing up legitimate concerns or whatnot should not be demonized.

Trump, while we all love him, is a single human being and cannot possibly be expected to do everything himself.

As he is a Human Being, he might make a mistake here and there, he is not God.

He also has so many people working against him, and four literal years these people HAVE gotten away with their shit.

We have seen the FBI give up with the Las Vegas Shooting, fishy moments where witness's disappeared, Laptops were magically deleted, ETC

Comey is still talking shit in that forest

Hillary is still free.

Voter Fraud and Illegals voting is still a thing.

Antifa is still allowed to run around violently attacking/DOXXING/Publicly shaming/Targeting family members of anyone who doesn't agree.

Now we all of a sudden trust the FBI and the CIA for any "Just for show" investigation" into Ilhan Elmi?

There still are no term limits for people like Pelosi and Schumer?

I think when people bring up things they are worried about, they should be allowed to bring them up.

It is not always a bad thing to not act like the left and have nothing but an echo chamber or blind idolatry for Trump.

It has been four years, Always going "Wait and see" forever, is also not any kind of reasonable request. I have heard too often how "It will happen"

But never "This HAS happened"

I am willing to wait until the 2020 election in case it is a strategy to destroy the Dems for the election. If nothing happens, then it won't be happening. . . .

potato4dawin [S] (-2 points) *

Of course we can't expect Trump to do everything himself, that's why he's appointing people but nobody is willing to put any trust or hope in anyone Trump appoints even if they have a record so spotless that we'd have to dissolve the entire government to remove everyone who doesn't hold up to them as the standard.

So what if there are no term limits? Do you know the process for implementing term limits? You can't just draft up an executive order and make it so and there's no point in writing up legislation for it if it won't pass.

So what if all these people are free? As I mentioned here we've only just begun to have enough sway in the DOJ to shut down the Mueller investigation for being a nothing burger. Real investigations take time and we haven't had 3 years of control over the DOJ, we've had maybe 6 months.

Why are the past events such a big deal when the causes of those events have since been dealt with? I don't think those are legitimate concerns. Trump might as well have been sworn into office in 2019 with how much he has been obstructed and 1 year isn't much time to get things done.

Mad_Hattie (5 points)

"So what if there are no term limits?"

"So what if all these people are free?"

"Why are the past events such a big deal"

"the causes of those events have since been dealt with?"

So it boils down to "I don't think those are legitimate concerns."

But other people do think they are.

What is the opposite of a concern troll who doesn't give one shit about anything and dismisses what are legitimate concerns?

potato4dawin [S] (-3 points) *

When you cut out all the explanation surrounding why those are legitimate questions it's pretty easy to make them seem to not be legitimate

If you're only going to hear what you want to hear then why should I bother trying to respond to you?

Rather than "I don't think those are legitimate concerns", I should've rather said "they're simply not legitimate concerns"

Lack of term limits proves nothing about who is or isn't doing anything for the reasons I provided

Lack of arrests proves nothing about who is or isn't doing anything for the reasons I provided

Events of the past refers to "We have seen the FBI give up with the Las Vegas Shooting, fishy moments where witness's disappeared, Laptops were magically deleted, ETC" and they have been dealt with by people getting fired. If I named just a dozen of the people that have been fired since then and how firing them has contributed to things moving forward I'd be able to write a book about it and would still have barely scratched the surface.

and yet you're perfectly content to edit out every one of those reasons in your quotes like CNN tier reporting to justify your concerns. I gave reasons for why your concerns aren't legitimate, you deliberately edited those reasons out to claim your concerns are legitimate. Being so disingenuous with your concerns like this is exactly why I'm so dismissive of them. Address the reasons themselves or shut up, I'm not going to play these kinds of games with you.

Mad_Hattie (4 points)

" I should've rather said "they're simply not legitimate concerns"

So because they don't matter to you, they don't matter, got it.

And no, I am not the one down voting you.