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posted ago by Xenophon *

From the VCDL email:

Several thousand gun owners turned out at the temporary General Assembly Building on Monday, January 13! The hearing room was divided into two areas - the larger area for gun-rights supporters and the other was a smaller area for gun-control supporters.

Gun owners filled up their side of the room quickly, while the gun controllers side was still pretty empty. To make it looked like they had more people and not look so pitiful, a search for gun-controllers in the waiting line outside the meeting room doors was conducted. Countless gun owners in the line were skipped over in the search for more gun-controllers. Whenever a gun controller was found, they were allowed to go into the meeting room, but no more gun owners were allowed in.

Sheriff Scott Jenkins of Culpeper County and Sheriff Richard Vaughn of Grayson County were in the room in support of gun owners. Sheriff Jenkins spoke twice during the hearings.

The meeting was chaired by Democrat Senator John Edwards. The Republicans on the committee pointed out multiple mistakes and even rules that were broken in the running of the committee, but the Democrat-controlled committee ignored the complaints and lurched forward anyhow, rules be damned.

Republican Senator Bill Stanley, who could not be at the hearing due to a trial he had to attend, had been promised by John Edwards that no gun bills would be heard on Monday, but Senator Edwards went back on his word and gun bills were heard anyhow. Senator Mark Obenshain brought up that broken promise, but to no avail.

Each side was only given 5 minutes total to speak on each bill.

The first gun-control bill to pass out of committee was SB 69, a one-handgun a month bill, which reinstated the last version of that law before it was repealed. Senator Saslaw's version of that same bill, SB 22, was rolled into SB 69 and SB 69 was passed out by a partisan vote of 9 to 5. Republican senators Mark Obenshain and Ryan McDougle put up strong resistance, as did speakers who pointed out that the law had been a failure, but to no avail.

Next up was SB 70, a Universal Background Check bill. Saslaw's version of the same bill, SB 12, was rolled into SB 70. A substitute bill was then offered for SB 70, which made the background checks only apply to sales of guns and not transfers, which fixes the problems with letting a friend or family member use one of your guns without you being constantly present. However, it still strips an 18, 19, or 20 year old from being able to own a handgun, since a dealer cannot process a handgun purchased by federal law for someone that age. Also, a background check would have to be run on all sales, even sales to immediate family members, friends, etc.! SB 70 passed by a partisan vote of 9 to 5.

Senator Barker's Red Flag Law bill, SB 240, was eviscerated, as all the flaws and dangers of that bill were brought up by Republicans Obenshain, McDougle, and Chafin on the committee, as well as by the pro-gun speakers. None of the concerns were addressed and the bill was passed by a partisan vote of 9 to 5.

Finally, SB 615, SB 450, and SB 505, all of which allow localities to pass various gun-control ordinances, were rolled into a substitute version of SB 35, making SB 35 an omnibus bill that destroys preemption by allowing Virginia localities to create a confusing set of local gun-control laws. Again, speaker after speaker spoke against SB 35, but it passed by a partisan 9 to 5 vote.

The gun-control bills that passed out of committee will now head to the Senate Floor to be voted on in a few days. VCDL will have an acton item shortly to bombard Senators with calls and emails encouraging them to opposed the four bills.

Elections have consequences and we are in a real fight to protect our rights. Twitter Facebook To join VCDL, click here. To contribute to VCDL, click here.

Join VCDL at: https://vcdl.org/join

VCDL's calendar: http://www.vcdl.org/meetings

Abbreviations used in VA-ALERT: http://www.vcdl.org/help/abbr.html

Our mailing address is: Virginia Citizens Defense League PO Box 513 Newington, VA 22122-0513

From the VCDL email: Several thousand gun owners turned out at the temporary General Assembly Building on Monday, January 13! The hearing room was divided into two areas - the larger area for gun-rights supporters and the other was a smaller area for gun-control supporters. Gun owners filled up their side of the room quickly, while the gun controllers side was still pretty empty. To make it looked like they had more people and not look so pitiful, a search for gun-controllers in the waiting line outside the meeting room doors was conducted. Countless gun owners in the line were skipped over in the search for more gun-controllers. Whenever a gun controller was found, they were allowed to go into the meeting room, but no more gun owners were allowed in. Sheriff Scott Jenkins of Culpeper County and Sheriff Richard Vaughn of Grayson County were in the room in support of gun owners. Sheriff Jenkins spoke twice during the hearings. The meeting was chaired by Democrat Senator John Edwards. The Republicans on the committee pointed out multiple mistakes and even rules that were broken in the running of the committee, but the Democrat-controlled committee ignored the complaints and lurched forward anyhow, rules be damned. Republican Senator Bill Stanley, who could not be at the hearing due to a trial he had to attend, had been promised by John Edwards that no gun bills would be heard on Monday, but Senator Edwards went back on his word and gun bills were heard anyhow. Senator Mark Obenshain brought up that broken promise, but to no avail. Each side was only given 5 minutes total to speak on each bill. The first gun-control bill to pass out of committee was SB 69, a one-handgun a month bill, which reinstated the last version of that law before it was repealed. Senator Saslaw's version of that same bill, SB 22, was rolled into SB 69 and SB 69 was passed out by a partisan vote of 9 to 5. Republican senators Mark Obenshain and Ryan McDougle put up strong resistance, as did speakers who pointed out that the law had been a failure, but to no avail. Next up was SB 70, a Universal Background Check bill. Saslaw's version of the same bill, SB 12, was rolled into SB 70. A substitute bill was then offered for SB 70, which made the background checks only apply to sales of guns and not transfers, which fixes the problems with letting a friend or family member use one of your guns without you being constantly present. However, it still strips an 18, 19, or 20 year old from being able to own a handgun, since a dealer cannot process a handgun purchased by federal law for someone that age. Also, a background check would have to be run on all sales, even sales to immediate family members, friends, etc.! SB 70 passed by a partisan vote of 9 to 5. Senator Barker's Red Flag Law bill, SB 240, was eviscerated, as all the flaws and dangers of that bill were brought up by Republicans Obenshain, McDougle, and Chafin on the committee, as well as by the pro-gun speakers. None of the concerns were addressed and the bill was passed by a partisan vote of 9 to 5. Finally, SB 615, SB 450, and SB 505, all of which allow localities to pass various gun-control ordinances, were rolled into a substitute version of SB 35, making SB 35 an omnibus bill that destroys preemption by allowing Virginia localities to create a confusing set of local gun-control laws. Again, speaker after speaker spoke against SB 35, but it passed by a partisan 9 to 5 vote. The gun-control bills that passed out of committee will now head to the Senate Floor to be voted on in a few days. VCDL will have an acton item shortly to bombard Senators with calls and emails encouraging them to opposed the four bills. Elections have consequences and we are in a real fight to protect our rights. Twitter Facebook To join VCDL, click here. To contribute to VCDL, click here. Join VCDL at: https://vcdl.org/join VCDL's calendar: http://www.vcdl.org/meetings Abbreviations used in VA-ALERT: http://www.vcdl.org/help/abbr.html Our mailing address is: Virginia Citizens Defense League PO Box 513 Newington, VA 22122-0513
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DAR1783 26 points ago

Marking for easy reference. Thanks for posting it, very helpful. So dems, when given one molecule of power over people, become outright despots and dictators. Hope everyone is watching what's happening.

CovfefeNegro 17 points ago

Virginia may need to eventually arrest the lawmakers who refuse the Constitution and pass illegal laws on Citizens.

That, too, is part of what will have to occur before we are done with this Great Awakening. The Enemy is not going to arrest itself, it is not going to suddenly find morality or honesty or decide to become ethical simply because we arrest hillary and obama the Usurper....we are going to have to arrest many many others at all levels of government.

POTUS told us all to prepare for the Storm, it does approach.

rooftoptendie 10 points ago

Sociopathic and psychopathic people do not comprehend any consequences except physical ones. If you want to stop a sociopath from doing something, you have to give them physical consequences (ie pain or incarceration) or they absolutely will NOT stop.

The only conclusion one can come to is that these fucked up people are not going to arrest themselves, and they must be made to fear something that computes in their brains as a REAL .

Sociopaths and psychopaths are a scourge on the human race, and always have been. What are you supposed to do with them? They sabotage every society they are in.

Rhapsody_The_Blue 10 points ago

Or you stop them permanently. I don’t know why people are so squeamish about eliminating this strain of humanity from the world. They’re literal monsters. They’d happily see us genocided.

Quietam_Unum 2 points ago

If anyone doubts Rhapsody_The_Blue's words, just look at any of the Project Veritas threads here on T_D-win. As the reports keep coming from P.V. the depths of socialists' evil will be in some measure, exposed.

ContraryCynic -1 points ago

Gonna get on a bus to Virginia then?

PamelaCincinnatus 2 points ago

...username checks out

CovfefeNegro 2 points ago

I agree, yet a part of me says those peoples also may be so excessively subsumed by the Evils of the decades long corruptions that they are in that sense 'innocent', the weak minded among us not ever having had a chance to be Alive as it were.

So Spiritually I do wonder if we can lobotomize them and care for them as vegetables or better to eliminate them from the suffering they both endure and foist upon others. POTUS has mentioned mental facilities, and we will definitely need 'some' because there are those we should save.

But there are others who will not be saved, the Bible tells us rivers will run with blood for instance.

Pray for Humanity, we live in Interesting Times and those often require Men to stand up and be counted.

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CovfefeNegro 2 points ago

And that is the dilemma....I sometimes hope 'they' will try to attack me, put me in mortal fear so the solution becomes edible.

VetforTrump 2 points ago *

These politicians ate citizens as well. That act like barons and kings. Time to tar and feather their stupid traitorous America hating asses.

MAGANatsFan 10 points ago

Unfortunately they have the votes. I think attempts to stop the them from making the laws will fail. I hope someone is ready to work the 2nd amendment challenge as soon as any of these become law.

Rhapsody_The_Blue 8 points ago

People need to realize that neo-Stalinist Democrats are not going to stop, and they are not going away. You all better be prepared to take whatever steps are eventually necessary. These people are psychopaths.

idindudat 6 points ago

Sounds just like California. Welcome to the People's Republic comrade.

angryamerican1964 4 points ago

These anti 2n amendment people are like cancer they cant be cured they need to be burned out

RedPaladin 2 points ago *

The vote was partisan 9-5

So "several thousand" people allowed 9 traitors to do their "job" while they did nothing but rattle cages.

Virginia is fucked, there's not even 100 people in that building that would have TRIED to stop them and no sherrif in the world could contain this crowd.

It's fucking stupid how those democrats were allowed to leave that building alive and proves that no amount of "being mad" will solve anything.

Hang em, or let em walk over you, but those are your ONLY TWO OPTIONS.

jomten 4 points ago

Or wait for the supreme court to overturn the law. We have checks against these kinds of things built into the constitution. We don’t go crazy lynching people while there is still plenty of legal recourse.

RedPaladin 3 points ago

Yes because the supreme court is a reliable source of constitutional interpretation...

And yes because they will hold off on no-knock raiding all registered gun owners under red flag laws until the supreme court refuses to hear the appeal.

philnmdg 2 points ago

Who voted these people into office?

WinstonSmith1984 2 points ago

federal employees, and foreigners, mostly

Lion-Ted 1 point ago

Government employees are the enemy, treat them like the trash they are. Their jobs almost always rely o. Persecuting the non-state employed individual, they all deserve to and WILL suffer like the suffering they have caused normal people.

Not fucked up, just karma.

ContraryCynic 1 point ago

Isn't democracy a wonderful thing?

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ContraryCynic 1 point ago

Well I live in Illinois, so I'll have to get back to you on that.

underthesmellybridge 1 point ago *

Don't kid yourselves folks. The Republicans in Virginia - such that there are any Republicans in Virginia - wanted this to happen.

The member of the Virginia Senate's Courts of Justice committee (that voted on these bills) are:

Democrat

Edwards

Saslaw

Lucas

Deeds

Petersen

Surovell

McClellan

Boysko

Morrissey

Republican

Norment

Obenshain

McDougle

Stuart

Stanley

Chafin

All of those democrats were up for re-election in 2019. Only ONE OF THEM had a Republican challenger.

Edwards had no Republican challenger. He won with 65% of the vote. An independent got 33% of the vote.

Saslaw had no challenger. He won with 92% of the vote. Write-ins got 7% of the vote.

Lucas had no challenger. She won with 92% of the vote. Write-ins got 7% of the vote.

Deeds had no Republican challenger. He He won with 67% of the vote. An independent got 32% of the vote.

Petersen had no challenger. He won with 91% of the vote. Write-ins got 9% of the vote.

Surovell had no challenger. He won with 92% of the vote. Write-ins got 8% of the vote.

McClellan had no Republican challenger. He won with 80% of the vote. A Libertarian got 19% of the vote.

Boysko had a Republican challenger (the only one!). She won with 64% of the vote. The Republican got 35% of the vote.

McClellan had no Republican challenger. He won with 63% of the vote. An Independent got 34% of the vote.

Election results: https://results.elections.virginia.gov/vaelections/2019%20November%20General/Site/GeneralAssembly.html

Konigpower 1 point ago

Do they not realize they have e been lied to for years. no way Dems take over a state and cannot even fill a room to counter the pro 2A supporters it is all a lie. Then again how did KY governor Bevins have over 100k less votes than the Republican AG elected(first black one in KY history) and the Republican LT Governor elected. They are conditioning us to their vote cheating. They will try to still the 2020 Federal elections.