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Found this list below of justifications for secession on wiki. No idea of legal rights/ramifications, but if states could secede from the union during the civil war, why can’t counties at least attempt a peaceful solution first? Prolly need a whole legal team to get something like this going, but the alternative of bowing to the dems is way worse....

-Economic enfranchisement of an economically oppressed class that is regionally concentrated within the scope of a larger national territory.

-The right to liberty, freedom of association and private property

-Consent as important democratic principle; will of majority to secede should be recognized

-Making it easier for states to join with others in an experimental union

-Dissolving such union when goals for which it was constituted are not achieved

-Self-defense when larger group presents lethal threat to minority or the government cannot adequately defend an area

-Self-determination of peoples

-Preserving culture, language, etc. from assimilation or destruction by a larger or more powerful group

-Furthering diversity by allowing diverse cultures to keep their identity

-Rectifying past injustices, especially past conquest by a larger power

-Escaping "discriminatory redistribution", i.e., tax schemes, regulatory policies, economic programs, etc. that distribute resources away to another area, especially in an undemocratic fashion

-Enhanced efficiency when the state or empire becomes too large to administer efficiently

-Preserving "liberal purity" (or "conservative purity") by allowing less (or more) liberal regions to secede

Providing superior constitutional systems which allow flexibility of secession

-Keeping political entities small and human scale through right to secession

Aleksander Pavkovic,[14] associate professor at the Department of Politics and International Studies at Macquarie University in Australia and the author of several books on secession describes five justifications for a general right of secession within liberal political theory:[15]

Anarcho-Capitalism: individual liberty to form political associations and private property rights together justify right to secede and to create a "viable political order" with like-minded individuals.

Democratic Secessionism: the right of secession, as a variant of the right of self-determination, is vested in a "territorial community" which wishes to secede from "their existing political community"; the group wishing to secede then proceeds to delimit "its" territory by the majority.

Communitarian Secessionism: any group with a particular "participation-enhancing" identity, concentrated in a particular territory, which desires to improve its members' political participation has a prima facie right to secede.

Cultural Secessionism: any group which was previously in a minority has a right to protect and develop its own culture and distinct national identity through seceding into an independent state.

The Secessionism of Threatened Cultures: if a minority culture is threatened within a state that has a majority culture, the minority needs a right to form a state of its own which would protect its culture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession

Found this list below of justifications for secession on wiki. No idea of legal rights/ramifications, but if states could secede from the union during the civil war, why can’t counties at least attempt a peaceful solution first? Prolly need a whole legal team to get something like this going, but the alternative of bowing to the dems is way worse.... -Economic enfranchisement of an economically oppressed class that is regionally concentrated within the scope of a larger national territory. -The right to liberty, freedom of association and private property -Consent as important democratic principle; will of majority to secede should be recognized -Making it easier for states to join with others in an experimental union -Dissolving such union when goals for which it was constituted are not achieved -Self-defense when larger group presents lethal threat to minority or the government cannot adequately defend an area -Self-determination of peoples -Preserving culture, language, etc. from assimilation or destruction by a larger or more powerful group -Furthering diversity by allowing diverse cultures to keep their identity -Rectifying past injustices, especially past conquest by a larger power -Escaping "discriminatory redistribution", i.e., tax schemes, regulatory policies, economic programs, etc. that distribute resources away to another area, especially in an undemocratic fashion -Enhanced efficiency when the state or empire becomes too large to administer efficiently -Preserving "liberal purity" (or "conservative purity") by allowing less (or more) liberal regions to secede Providing superior constitutional systems which allow flexibility of secession -Keeping political entities small and human scale through right to secession Aleksander Pavkovic,[14] associate professor at the Department of Politics and International Studies at Macquarie University in Australia and the author of several books on secession describes five justifications for a general right of secession within liberal political theory:[15] Anarcho-Capitalism: individual liberty to form political associations and private property rights together justify right to secede and to create a "viable political order" with like-minded individuals. Democratic Secessionism: the right of secession, as a variant of the right of self-determination, is vested in a "territorial community" which wishes to secede from "their existing political community"; the group wishing to secede then proceeds to delimit "its" territory by the majority. Communitarian Secessionism: any group with a particular "participation-enhancing" identity, concentrated in a particular territory, which desires to improve its members' political participation has a prima facie right to secede. Cultural Secessionism: any group which was previously in a minority has a right to protect and develop its own culture and distinct national identity through seceding into an independent state. The Secessionism of Threatened Cultures: if a minority culture is threatened within a state that has a majority culture, the minority needs a right to form a state of its own which would protect its culture. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession
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Ilikecheese (1 point)

My state rep in Illinois introduced a bill to ceded Chicago from Illinois. It didn't get anywhere.

DinsdalePiranha (1 point) *

2A is a limit on government, not people. States should pound salt.