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I don't think people really understand what just happened: the Executive branch's Constitutionally intrinsic war power has been preempted by a Congress eager to posture as the prudent keeper of a gung-ho, nut-job president. The president has the power to declare war; Congress has power to either keep funding it or cease funding it after 60 days.
Our problem is not Donald Trump, 'Maniac-in-Chief'. Our problem is that, for the last 70 years since the end of WWII, our government has not declared war on its enemies. Our failure to declare war has kept Congress out of the Constitutional loop on every conflict since the Korean War; the rationale was that the Executive branch could better micromanage and contain Cold War era 'hotspots' more efficiently than Congress and its endless committees and debates. It was deemed a sensible solution to the problem of MAD: surgically targeted strikes before they had an opportunity to escalate into nuclear exchanges.
The problem here is that 1) Trump isn't a trigger-happy loon; 2) Congress is trying to score any kind of virtue points it can against Trump by portraying him as unstable as well as incompetent; and 3) this resolution is completely unnecessary, since all we have to do is go back to the Constitutionally-sanctioned declaration of war. All this will do is emasculate the Executive in EXACTLY the same way that the Army Act of 1867 did to Andrew Johnson and the next 8 presidents after him. And, come to think of it: Trump's death struggle with an opposition Congress hell-bent on having the upper hand is playing out exactly like Johnson's did, right down to the bullshit impeachment scam.
You are correct. Some people really don’t understand.
You are in that group.
Congress did nothing to preempt power with this action.
Nothing
I shared my views politely. I'd appreciate the same courtesy. If you think I'm wrong, then it behooves you to demonstrate why. If you can't, beyond saying: "Congress did nothing to preempt power with this action", then I will assume you are just being a contrarian.
There has been no pre-emption of anything. This was a non-binding vote. Otherwise, your analysis is fine.
spez: It was a relief to read a rational essay and a temperate response to criticism, especially after all the cuss words and complaints about the Jooos (now modified to include Muslims in an effort to avoid deportation), apparently from the denizens of VOAT, last night.
Agreed.
Your wish has been granted. I did not treat you impolitely, I said you were wrong. Because you were wrong. That is not impolite, it is accurate. You have not been victimized.
You are wrong. I stated the reason clearly, to wit: ”Congress did nothing to preempt power with this act.” Play by your own rules. If you think your claim is accurate, then it behooves you to demonstrate how congress has preempted any power with this action.
If you can’t, beyond saying: ”Executive branch’s constitutionally intrinsic war power has been preempted”, then I will assume you are an under-informed, overconfident alarmist - or a shill