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50pointsahead [S] (3 points)

Video of USS Hartford surfacing through sea ice: https://youtu.be/PSE9Zjh364M

CovfefeNegro (1 point)

Can't downvote you, bummer. What does this have to do with anything, any fooking thing at all?

Are you asking Trump to invade Canada now? WT literal Fook?

BidenSmellsKids (2 points) *

Of course they the right to exist, but my version of America First doesn't involve Israel, whatsoever.

CovfefeNegro (0 points)

How is that supposed to trigger me?

WTF makes you think you can trigger anyone, let alone me?

And you imagine you get pleasure from imagining you trigger someone.

Freaking kids, y'all ought to check out facebook or something.

50pointsahead [S] (0 points) *

You have an extremely myopic view of things.

What makes the arctic "Canadian" if Canada doesn't have the capability to patrol beneath the ice? The Canadian Navy is stuck in the Cold War with diesel-electric subs that don't have anywhere near the operating capability of nuclear-powered subs, especially in the Arctic.

Canada only owns the airspace above the ice; all of the real valuables are being left unattended for Russia (and potentially China, in the future) to take, unless the US wants the valuables for themselves.

Oil and natural gas (~22% of the world's supply), iron, copper, nickel, bauxite (aluminum), phosphates (fertilizer), diamonds, zinc, and more. Currently only Russia has their head in the game and has icebreakers and nuclear subs to take advantage of the arctic's vast material wealth. It's only a matter of time that they come closer and closer into Canadian waters looking for more resources to extract.

Dave (1 point)

Ice Station Zebra

50pointsahead [S] (1 point)

China's number of nuclear powered submarines: 10 and growing

Russia's number of nuclear powered submarines: 37 and growing

United States' number of nuclear powered submarines: 68 and growing

Canada's number of nuclear powered submarines: 0, no plans for any purchases

These are plain and simple numbers illustrating who effectively has control of the arctic UNDERNEATH the ice, and it isn't the country that so-called "owns" the land.

If the States are going to have to spend billions of dollars protecting North America and Canada's arctic "sovereignty", then they may as well take a large cut of whatever is there for themselves. Nearly nobody lives there, so just make the "Canadian" arctic a US territory already.