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posted ago by AIDS1255 +2068 / -0

Look at the beginning of the debate. Joe is sharp, he can put his sentences together, he's not fumbling over any words or making gaffes, and he's making valid points (if you're a lunatic liberal that is).

Fast forward 90 minutes later, he seems so lost. Just out of it, can't string the right words together, saying some truly off the wall shit, and just plain old tired, even though he had been resting for the past week.

If you watched Joepedo's town hall, you saw the EXACT same thing. Sharp, quick, and crisp answers in the beginning, but by the end just an absolute trainwreck.

No different in the first debate as well. He came out much stronger than where he ended,and just looked gone by the finish.

He's being pumped full of something that lasts 60-90 minutes, no doubt in my mind anymore

Look at the beginning of the debate. Joe is sharp, he can put his sentences together, he's not fumbling over any words or making gaffes, and he's making valid points (if you're a lunatic liberal that is). Fast forward 90 minutes later, he seems so lost. Just out of it, can't string the right words together, saying some truly off the wall shit, and just plain old tired, even though he had been resting for the past week. If you watched Joepedo's town hall, you saw the EXACT same thing. Sharp, quick, and crisp answers in the beginning, but by the end just an absolute trainwreck. No different in the first debate as well. He came out much stronger than where he ended,and just looked gone by the finish. He's being pumped full of something that lasts 60-90 minutes, no doubt in my mind anymore
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grenades_and_ham 119 points ago +119 / -0

Joe's demeanor did change. I think around the time of, "who built the cages Joe?"

After that, Trump just circled back each time and simply said, "why didn't you fix it Joe when you were in office?"

Joe looked completely unsettled and confused. He simply didn't have a rebuttal except a stupid grin or stating not true.

The final nuke was when Trump said, he was here because of Joe.

He threw in the towel, no one to throw him a line.

Trump broke him.

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bakuuu 67 points ago +67 / -0

Trump broke him.

Sooo many people were broken by Trump. It literally makes me lol whenever another one appears on the horizon and thinks he/she can handle him. Every fucking time

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Rothbard 25 points ago +25 / -0

Yeah the snart Dems like buttedge dropped out cause they didnt want Trump to end their career. Give themselves a chance against someone else.

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grenades_and_ham 8 points ago +8 / -0

"You don't have to do this Joe."

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ramcolt1 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's a very valid point of view. I Never thought about it like that

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TeaAndFuzzy 14 points ago +14 / -0

Can't stump. Won't stump.

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grenades_and_ham 5 points ago +5 / -0

Now we just need to "kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down."

I won't say who's quote that is, but we're on the door step.

C'mon, final push pedes! Motivate everyone you know to vote!

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AIDS1255 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not only that, spread this story of corruption. In today's world, public opinion and attention seem to dictate what the FBI or law enforcement pursue moreso than the actual crimes.

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Yournarritive 17 points ago +17 / -0

When Biden looked at his watch to see how much longer his ass was gonna be kicked, I loved it. You could tell he wanted that to be over.

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itsdazzling 12 points ago +12 / -0

this is a huge guess, but I think they’ve been experimenting with different things to keep his cognition up over the last few months (hence why a lid is called so early on some days or how he’s not seen at all) IMO he knew when it was all wearing off and about what time he would start to wane. At the end he kept using “politician” lines, as Trump said, because it was the only solid thoughts he still had after years of repeating it. He had to rely on muscle memory and some serious coaching and he knew at watch check time his ‘help’ was running out

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ColdBrewCovfefe 15 points ago +15 / -0

He was on the ropes for the last half. 👍🏻

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chadenfreude_ 11 points ago +11 / -0

..... that’s the answer

When your response is so weak you have to tell the moderator that was your answer

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SixteenBeatsAOne 80 points ago +80 / -0

Exactly. Dementia Joe started to 'hit the pharmaceutical wall' at about the 75 minute mark -- at about the same time that he looked at his wristwatch. America saw that too. It is obvious that Joe is no longer functioning without pharmaceutical help. By contrast, GEOTUS was just hitting his stride wjen Joe's wheels fell off.

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TrumpForeverEver 50 points ago +50 / -0

Yup. He looked great at the beginning

But obviously at the end he started to get confused

Trump pounced on it and got him to admit to a fracking and oil industry ban

Gotcha!

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SixteenBeatsAOne 26 points ago +26 / -0

Huge Gotcha. The debate was close, but Dementia Joe napalmed his own campaign during the last twenty minutes or so, with lines like "transition from oil". Boom!

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Titan93 16 points ago +16 / -0

Republicans pounce!

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magabigleague2 7 points ago +7 / -0

I think downing a redbull has a similar effect

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aconcernedtroll 3 points ago +3 / -0

He sounded great, but idk if he looked great. I thought his eyes were about ready jump straight out of his head schiffty style.

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Jabron661 21 points ago +21 / -0

Is there some pharmacist or doctor pede here that can list what type of stimulants can have this effect, and only last a hour or so?

I never tried meth so an expert opinion would shed some light.

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SixteenBeatsAOne 24 points ago +25 / -1

I bet that Hunter would be a good source of knowledge here.

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MakeFloridaRed 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, but.... where’s hunter?

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SixteenBeatsAOne 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hunter is in hiding until at least November 4th. But lots of people have opined that a darker direction for Hunter may occur if this laptop corruption story takes off over the next three to five days.

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MakeFloridaRed 1 point ago +1 / -0

So dark... it may be lights out at Burisma.

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magabigleague2 9 points ago +9 / -0

try downing a redbull haha

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joker 7 points ago +7 / -0

Im no doctor, but people use "natural" nootropic supplements like CDP-choline, Creatine, L-theanine, Forskolin etc. or synthetic ones like various racetams and newer groups like Noopept, Penibut etc. You can can stack them of course with stimulants like caffeine, nicotine, cocaine or various classes of amphetamines like Ritalin for example.

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LRRP 7 points ago +7 / -0

Joe is on real drugs. He acts like he’s on coke. I would think they would give him nice legal adderall but probably lasts too long.

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joker 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree now, haven't seen the debate until now. Hes uncontrolled and boasting. I knew a fried who took it all the time, pretty much the same picture.

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ronburgandy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Caffeine and Nicotine have always been plenty stimulating for me, I really don't get it when people need crank or something to get a pick me up.

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csd268 6 points ago +6 / -0

Not a pharmacist but ex avid drug taker - the only stimulant that would be super intense then wear off that quickly, causing a crash would be......crack. Maybe hunter's helping the big guy out. Adderall, Vyvanse, provigil would all last way longer. Meth would really have been the best choice as it would have vice gripped him into being alert but likely would have reduced coherence. And as for snorting coke, while he'd probably want more, wouldn't need more that soon aka a comedown wouldnt set in that quickly.

But that's why I don't think uppers make sense with Joe. He's obv not sucking glass dick before a debate. I really think it's purely a stamina issue. He can't focus for as long as the debate required. I think he fought as hard as he could in the first half and by the second he just couldn't keep going. It's sad.

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Randomite 10 points ago +10 / -0

And the moderator went over time - I’ll bet Biden’s handlers were going nuts.

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SixteenBeatsAOne 5 points ago +5 / -0

I was thinking the same thing. The debate was scheduled for ninety minutes, and it went 96 Minutes. Dementia Joe hit the "pharmaceutical wall" at about minute75. So between the 75th and 96th minute is when he dropped the "transitioning from oil" bomb, his take on the 11 million illegal aliens, and he looked at his watch at st minute 82 -- which was an indication that he was eager to leave the stage. By contrast, President Trump was just hitting his stride during the late part of the debate.

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itsdazzling 6 points ago +6 / -0

Amphetamines, I’d guess. He’s got that ‘easy to anger, aggressive’ symptom on lock and you can literally time the drop on him

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everydaybetter 2 points ago +2 / -0

Deep brain stimulation. Around Labor Day after the convention, Joe took a 10 day break for some "minor surgery." 10 days in the middle of a campaign. Once he came back he was much better than senile Joe over the summer. I think they implanted a wire to get over the dementia and give some adderal to put a bit of pep in his step, but obviously not enough.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/deep-brain-stimulation/about/pac-20384562

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SixteenBeatsAOne 1 point ago +1 / -0

Deep brain stimulation has to play a role here. Dementia Joe has cut back on the public gaffe action in the last six weeks. Part of it is the fact that he has not made himself publicly available too. Just imagine that Jill could give her hubby's brain a jolt just by tapping a DBS app on her iPhone .

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everydaybetter 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Dementia Joe has cut back on the public gaffe action in the last six weeks."

This is the key IMHO. Something was done surgical.

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Bbqrbg 38 points ago +38 / -0

They have him watch Trump rallies right up until the debate starts. Even Joe draws just a little bit of dragon energy from that.

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ItsOkToMAGA 7 points ago +7 / -0

We have the most renewable dragon energy. It's currently being produced at the highest levels ever recorded with zero green house gas emissions.

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 33 points ago +33 / -0

Which really shows just pointless the whole presidency thing is. If sleepy joe ever won, his handlers would be the actual president, not him. Crooked hilary could barely walk around, so democrats basically had the same plan with her. The fact that democrats would wheel out literal puppets to run the showing they were president is really sad.

Thank goodness Trump isn’t like that.

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Mathelm 7 points ago +7 / -0

Kammy's Cuck is out saying he's married to the next president.
They're planning on whacking Biden or claiming 25th before Jan 20.

Save Joe's Life. Vote Trump.

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Chuj 29 points ago +29 / -0

Agreed. I expect all were able to see the wheels coming off Joe towards the end. If I were undecided I would be terrified of voting for that old fart

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Bequeathed_Nugs 26 points ago +26 / -0 (edited)

Did anyone catch when trump gave the number for black men (10’s of thousands) that had been arrested since the 1994 crime bill? Joe immediately says “not true” and immediately after that the moderator confirms with a question to Joe citing the exact same number yet you don’t hear a rebuttal to the number again.

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WeaponizedSmirk 25 points ago +25 / -0

Did you see him checking his watch several times later in the debate? He is definitely on something and he was realizing it was wearing off.

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csd268 5 points ago +5 / -0

Someone tweeted that his watch brand has a texting feature. I wonder if his team was using it for communication.

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GoodvsEvil 24 points ago +24 / -0

is this why geotus wanted drug testing

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cali_expat 24 points ago +24 / -0

I think Trump just has that effect on him. As the debate went on, Biden was becoming more emotional. You can see the gaffs and stumbling start soon after he begins interrupting Trump during his time to speak.

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magnokor 18 points ago +18 / -0

Joe Biden, he is a battery operated toy car from 1973 that is controlled by a hand controller that is connected to the toy by a big cable, and the D batteries go flat after 10 to 20 minutes.

President Trump is either a B-2 with aerial refueling capability that can continue to operate at high levels for a very long time, or is some futuristic ion-engined craft that has energy levels so high that they can work for near-limitless amounts of time.

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Isaiah53 17 points ago +17 / -0

Biden looked like he has one foot in the grave.

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nickybops 16 points ago +16 / -0

Obama:

“You don't have to do this, Joe, you really don't,”

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sgttoporbottoms 14 points ago +14 / -0

Any pharmacists know anything uppers with a very short half life like that?

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ORANGE-MAN-RAD 4 points ago +4 / -0

This. I was certain they had him down a bucket of adderall after they unplugged him from his life support machine, but whatever he's on doesn't last much more than 60 minutes. Unless he has to take it early just so he can even be moved to an event or so they can monitor him for a few hours after his dose.

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maga2020yeet 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think there's any form of adderall that only lasts 60 mins.

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TobyAwake 3 points ago +3 / -0

Depends on if he has built a tolerance or not. If the uppers thing is true (specifically Adderall), then he has built a huge tolerance. With a higher tolerance, comes a quicker crash, especially in high stress situations like the debate stage.

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maga2020yeet 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are definitely right there, more stressful work wears down ADHD meds faster.

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ORANGE-MAN-RAD 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup. Maybe he's popping truck driver "sinus medicine." Did he appear itchy?

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maga2020yeet 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not that I saw but antihistamines can counter that. They also make people tired.

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DasBurt 11 points ago +11 / -0

100% sure this is true.

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FuzzyNuggets1987 10 points ago +10 / -0

Also explains the watch checking.

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MortyArk 9 points ago +9 / -0

I'm sure he's taking something, although it doesn't make sense to me why a short duration dose. There is stuff that will last all day, so why risk him coming down in the middle of a debate?

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Kekintosh2020 22 points ago +22 / -0

Because he needs to a YUGE dose to even make him appear lucid but not induce excited delirium and stroke out

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Braujager 17 points ago +17 / -0

Reminds me of a bad joke, as does so much of Biden's campaign...

Biden begins masturbating on the debate stage.

Moderator asks, "Vice President Biden, what are you doing?"

The Big Guy replies, "My doctor told me that I should masturbate any time that I want to..."

Shouted from Joe's entourage in the audience, "No, Joe, the doctor said that you could have A STROKE at any time now."

I'll show myself out now. :)

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TobyAwake 1 point ago +1 / -0

THIS.

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Bigly2020 9 points ago +9 / -0

If you notice trump did t start hammer fisting him until the end almost like he could also hear the stuttering and slurring

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unique_string 8 points ago +10 / -2

There is already enough genuinely horrifying evidence about Biden which proves without doubt that nobody in their right mind should be voting for him, inventing theories about which performance enhancing drugs he might be abusing isn't necessary. Not that I don't think he is using any and every advantage he thinks he can get. Terry Reed's book from the 1990s "Compromised: Bush, Clinton & The CIA" give the details of how the CIA uses profits from smuggling cocaine into the US to fund other off the books black ops. No doubt that a lot of the people involved in that trade end up as cocaine addicts. Anesthesiologists have the highest frequency of drug addiction of any demographic out there, because they have unfettered access so the temptation for abuse is irresistible to nearly all of them.

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EpsteinDidntKillHS 7 points ago +7 / -0

Cocaine lasts about 90 minutes

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incogneato 2 points ago +2 / -0

"smart" contact lenses

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bubbletea 5 points ago +5 / -0

No wonder he was looking at his watch. Please let this be over!

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JamesBond007 5 points ago +5 / -0

Joe’s going to croak shortly after this election because all the medications and stress from scandal and travel have taken 10 years off the end of his life. His wife is a real piece of work

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Hugh 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hence the watch checking.

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itsdazzling 5 points ago +5 / -0

I’m not a doctor (I am a med student though 👌🏼) but it doesn’t take much to see him waning. It’s like watching someone get drunk. When someone starts to slur their words after a period of time it definitely indicates something is going on.

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stvgraham 5 points ago +5 / -0

I thought his eyes told the story. Looked like he was on something

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incogneato 5 points ago +5 / -0

Lot of speculation that those are "smart" contact lenses with a head-up display. They do exist. That was far more than dilated pupils we were seeing in both of these debates.

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ORANGE-MAN-RAD 2 points ago +2 / -0

Were his pupils super-dilated like last time? I was listening to audio.

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stvgraham 4 points ago +4 / -0

It was like he was a deer in the headlights. Big, non moving, creepy

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Xirturn1984 4 points ago +4 / -0

Or he could be faking it which means he’s fit to stand trial. Either way he won’t be president

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Critical 4 points ago +4 / -0

Wait so you’re telling me the guy who refused to get drug tested beforehand, and when asked about taking a cognitive test, he told a black reporter it’s like asking him if he took cocaine and then asked him if he was a junkie... This guy may have been on something?

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LRRP 4 points ago +4 / -0

Kind of challenging to bump coke off the lectern.

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Badwubs 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yea joe did some weird sniffing near the beginning, like full body sniffing like a drug addict

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lustmorden 3 points ago +3 / -0

I swear, this debate and during the first one, about 30min in he starts making his first verbal stumbles, then gradually gets worse. Remember when his team requested breaks every 30min?

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AIDS1255 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep, and if you watched his town hall, the breaks for more and more frequent as the event went on. Towards he end he would talk for maybe 5 minutes, then take a 5 minute commercial break.

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Destineed369 3 points ago +3 / -0

I doubt it’s amphetamines. They have a longer half life. My guess is some sort of cathinone derivative or an herbal stim that’s pretty easy on the body and short lasting like Kratom. Depends on pupil size.

Or possibly modifinil.

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TobyAwake 1 point ago +1 / -0

Adderall Tolerance can shorten the length of the stimulating effects.

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Destineed369 1 point ago +1 / -0

Magnesium supplements help to reset receptors each night. Stimulants would explain why he has to hide for a few days after events. Classic crash and recovery. Shitty feeling. So shitty that I do wish it on Joe Bidens pedocorupptocrat ass

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Crucial8GB 2 points ago +2 / -0

The sad thing about the debates is that Trump had to steer talking point and bring up things that otherwise the moderator would have not. I'm so glad he does not let the media walk on him.

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spratville 2 points ago +2 / -0

Does that disqualify him from the presidency though?

I mean, every time he has to make a decision or talk to someone important, he could just shoot up.

The Bidens could even apply for a family discount.

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DJTFortyFive2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’ll get you going for the show, c’mon it’s time to go

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TXLadyPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

I absolutely agree with this. If you go back and look at old videos of the Persident you can see that his way of speaking, cadence, enunciation, how he pronounces certain words, it has all remained the same. If you go back and play old videos of Biden it's a total different person, you can tell his mind has dimmed, he looks like a helpless old man compared to his former self.

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fear_mongrels 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's sad that his family is letting this happen.

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Crucial8GB 2 points ago +2 / -0

I noticed this myself. He started losing it towards the end. I don't think Biden will make it to 2024.

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